the capitol, nancy pelosi says the house is prepared to move forward with articles of impeachment as soon as monday if the president does not resign first. nbc news obtained an early proposal. it includes just one article incitement of insurrection. the fbi reports dozens have now been arrested for wednesday's rampage including jacob chansley and violent entry and disorderly conduct. also charged, adam johnson with theft of government ploroperty after allegedly removing the speaker of the house's lectern from the capitol building. west virginian lawmaker derek evans who live streamed himself charging the capitol. this all comes as the president's favorite megaphone has silenced him permanently. twitter banning him citing further incitement of violence.

we have the latest news from the fallout from the capitol invasion on wednesday. let's go first to gary grumbach. gary, welcome to you. how many people, first of all, have already been arrested? >> reporter: hey there, alex. i want to show you the scene here real quick outside the capitol four days after the siege on the capitol. we've got 7 foot nonscale fencing here and jersey barriers that have been set up to add some extra layer of protection. we've also got members of the national guard here. hundreds of them surrounding the capitol complex but there have been a number of arrests since this all started here on wednesday. it turns out if you go into the capitol and you do something illegal that is a federal crime or is a state crime, and photograph it and put it on video, the fbi and doj will start looking for you. adam johnson, the 36-year-old from florida. he was the one photographed holding the lectern of nancy

pelosi through the capitol rotunda. that was found safe. adam johnson was found and arrested. there was the gentleman whose feet were up on speaker nancy pi lows si's desk. he was from arkansas and he was arrested. 16 folks have been federally charged with crimes from what happened here on wednesday. about 40 folks charged with lesser crimes that were charged in d.c. superior court. those are the arrests. there's also a number of investigations underway here. i'm talking about what happened with the capitol police. there's a number of questions, was it under staffed, were they under manned, were they given the wrong information? what happened there, there's a number of investigations being called for and also underway by the fbi and the united states department of justice. alex? >> okay. so interesting, gary. you know, i mean, to think these folks think they could get away with doing this. they put themselves out there publicly. got to wonder if the bragging rights they have will be worth

it when they're hiring lawyers, spending time in court and potentially behind bars. it is what it is, gary. thank you for that. meantime, conservatives are flocking to a new app after president trump's twitter app was suspended. parlor is being advertised as the free speech social network but it has already been banned from the google app store until it steps up its moderation policies. let's go to ali velshi. welcome to you. how does this app, parlor, differ from the other social media platforms? >> reporter: so the difference is that parlor, alex, has no moderation whatsoever. there's been criticism on facebook and twitter that they don't moderate. if someone sends a tweet that you think is abusive, racist, you can press a button and submit it to twitter for their investigation. the criticisms are that twitter and facebook have not been particularly good at that. there are real moderators. if there's a threat, threat to somebody's life, racism, abuse,

they will ultimately deal with it. parler has zero moderation. this is a completely free community where you can say what it's done. it's attracted very hard right conservatives, conspiracy theorists, racists. it's garbage. the stuff on parler is remarkable garbage. there's some space with real conversation. the hashtags are anti-semetic, racist, anti-black. there's a lot of maga 2020. there's a lot of stock to steal which was involved in promoting what happened at the capitol wednesday. what a number of conservatives have done, they've been banned from twitter and gone to parler. a number of conservatives, i don't want to bran dish everybody as conservative. there are reasonable moderate smart conservatives on social media. a lot of far right conspiracy theorists have left twitter on their own and moved to parler, they're pitching other people to get off of twitter and to join

parler. the rallying cry here is first amendment and censorship, alex. the parler folks are saying social media and tech giants are censors social media and come to parler, this is a free space. >> is it hard to join? do you find anyone of a more broad minded approach on there? >> yes. yes. >> you do? >> reporter: yeah. it's not hard to join. they do require if you want to be verified on it to send information about you that some people may not be comfortable sending, social security number, photograph of your driver's license and selfie of yourself so they know you're the person in your driver's license. it's not hard to join at all. yes, there are people across the political spectrum. it's not all garbage, just a lot of garbage on parler. not like twitter where you were getting into intellectual debates with a side dish of garbage.

parler is mostly the crazy stuff, corn spir si stuff with a side dish of intellectual conversation. it's a big discussion, alex, about what that should look like, what that town square -- the digital downtown square of the future should look like. parler is not it. right now parler is the garbage dump of conversation. >> i like the way you put that. safe travels home. appreciate you, ali. let's go to the white house where the president is reeling after twitter banned his account. what are we hearing as trump is managing without access to what has been his biggest platform? >> reporter: the president is left to scramble to find alternative platforms. he's floating the possibility of starting his own social media platforms as they are essentially playing whack a mole with the president's accounts overnight. our sources tell us president trump has recorded a video about

covid-19 and the vaccine that he intended to release and now that's been delayed because they're trying to figure out where they can put it without it being deleted. case in point, overnight when the president offered his first reaction to twitter's decision, he tried to use another account, the official government @potus presidential twitter account to relay that and within just minutes twitter took that message down from the site showing that they are not going to let the president simply circumvent their policy by using other types of accounts. now we've been hearing from the president's family members, his remaining allies such as the president's son, donald trump jr., who in a video is calling this a full frontal assault on free speech. but we're also hearing from people like chris krebs, the former cyber security chief from the u.s. who resigned, who was actually fired after he refused to talk about false allegations of voter fraud. he says this is a good first

step. and amid all of this, alex, twitter standing firm behind their decision saying they did this because of the risk that the president was going to continue to use twitter to incite violence. twitter also saying in a statement that there has also been discussion on and off their platforms about a potential secondary attack on the capitol on the 17th of january, just a few days before the president is set to be inaugurated. one of the key reasons that twitter is taking action now to make sure that kind of conversation can't be taking place on their platform. >> we're going to be getting into that, that's for sure. in addition, we talk with a congresswoman in a moment about the prospect of impeachment. let me know if you've heard anything officially or what's in the ether in that building behind you as there are discussions of impeachment on capitol hill. >> the white house has been saying president trump views it's unnecessary for them to proceed with this with just 12 days left. it would be a divisive rather than healing, which is of course a statement full of irony given

that the president is now acc e accused personally of full meantimean fulmenting rioters on capitol hill. nonetheless, the message very consistent from the white house and now from their top ally on capitol hill, kevin mccarthy, republican leader in the house, that there's essentially no point. everybody should keep their powder dry for the next 12 days until the president leaves the office. >> we'll see you next hour. joining me now is new york congresswoman kathleen reyes. always good to see you, ma'am. thanks for joining me. i know you've supported calls for the 25th amendment, but other than discussions, there are no signs that it is being pursued. first of all, timing. the window for declaring the president unfit to serve office, is it closing? >> i mean, he has 11 days left, alex, and so time is very short. i think instead of focusing,

criticizing democrats who are talking about having to go down the impeachment route again, instead of criticizing democrats who support that, how about taking action yourself, republicans. how about mike pence talk to the cabinet about invoking the 25th amendment. do your job. how about getting a group of trusted people who are -- know donald trump to walk into the oval office ala richard nixon and say, sir, it's time to go. >> well, look. we heard josh reporting it and you know vice president pence opposes invoking the 25th amendment. he thinks it would add to the chaos. you have senator lindsey graham who is against impeachment. he says that's going to do more harm than good. is there legitimate concern that removing donald trump from office would incite further violence? >> i think that's the line that the republicans are using because none of them have the backbone to do what they know is right. i hope that everyone can

remember exactly what happened wednesday. i was in that building. it was horrifying that this was happening in our country. it was an insurrection, an attempt to overtake another branch of government, to cause harm to elected members of congress. they stormed the building, and they were doing this after being insighted to do it by donald trump. this was not a foreign threat like we had on 9/11. this was a domestic terrorist act that was aided and abetted and incited by this president. every single one of the republicans know it and they -- except for the handful -- except for a handful of people like adam kinsinger, my republican colleague in the house and three senators calling on him to resign or saying they would support the 25th amendment, there's silence on the other

side of the aisle. that is absolutely outrageous. that is what people should be outraged by. >> is there a number, can you put a percentage behind republican colleagues in congress who might be behind removing trump installing pence as an acting president until the inauguration? the fact that the president's twitter account has been pef permanently suspended, he can't call out people who believe that would be the right way to go beingo, right? could republicans speak out without fear of reprimand? >> you'd like to think so. you have donald trump jr. kind of taking over the soapbox of this, you know, craziness. it's ridiculous. they should shut him down and take his voice away as well. look, this is about republicans doing the right thing and putting the security of this country before any political

consideration they have. i mean, some of them backed away from it after we finally got the capitol back under control and we both went back to our floors to finally certify this election, but, you know, you have all these people, ted cruz, josh hawley going out and perpetuating these falsehoods about a stolen election and about rampant fraud when every single judge, most of whom were appointed by trump, have said there's no evidence that this election was stolen or fraudulent in any way. they were being -- propping up these false allegations that led to this insurrection. they need to have a backbone, stand up and do the right thing. how much damage can the president do in 11 days? let's point to wednesday and show you how much damage he was able to do by inciting his supporters to attack the capitol. there's a lot of damage that can be done. >> absolutely. by the way, i'm looking at a headline from san antonio

express news. ted cruz must be expelled from the senate and president trump impeached. they're calling for accountability. you have called for a federal investigation into what you see as this epic security failure. you have resignations of the capital police chief and the senate at arms. senate homeland security, rules committee, they're going to hold hearings. what in your mind are the biggest questions that need to be answered? >> one of the questions that i would like to have answered, alex, is how did we allow this to happen when there was ample evidence all over social media that this could be the likely outcome of this crowd, donald trump telling them to come for six weeks, come, get ready to take back your country on january 6th. we saw it all over social media that they were going to storm the building, that that's the step they were going to take. you know, look, there's a big

investigation that has to happen. i mean, what a lot of people don't -- weren't aware of is there were pipe bombs placed strategically all around the capitol hill area so as to take focus away from the actual building itself and that actually weakened the ability of the capitol police to have the response that they needed to have. but this is -- we should have expected this. social media told us that this was what this group wanted to do. now we have an inauguration in 11 days and we -- it is critically important to the survival of this dem skra si that that peaceful transfer of power happen on january 280th happens right at the capitol. we need to make sure that even if it means calling in the military, do what we have to do to maintain this great country of ours, this democracy of ours that stands as a beacon of hope still to the rest of the world.

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. back in the u.s., growing calls for impeachment on capitol hill. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell is outlining what that procedure would look like knowing that the soonest the senate could receive articles of impeachment from the house, january 19th, that's just one day before joe biden's inauguration. telling democrats if they want to impeach president trump it will take up floor time during the first moments of biden's presidency. let's go to alley vitali. welcome to you. how does the president-elect feel about the prospect of an impeachment trial that to mitch

mccconnell's point would occupy the first days in congress? >> reporter: alex, this is a really delicate balance lancing act. they have a laundry list of priorities that do not include impeachment including they want to tackle vaccine dissemination. they need to get covid under control. if they get covid under control, they have long said that's what they need to do in order to get the economy back on track. of course though there's also the reality that biden has talked about which is the need for this country to heal. that was a priority even before the events of this week, but certainly this most dire twist in the transition shows that that needs to be a top priority as well. biden though not waiting in d w saying trump is not fit to hold office. yesterday in a press conference he was repeatedly pressed on the idea and ultimately he concluded we're going to do our job on the

transition side, kamala harris and joe biden getting ready to assume office. he said congress can decide how to proceed with theirs. biden yesterday making clear that his focus right now is on coronavirus and the relief that he's going to press for in the immediate days and weeks after he is inaugurated just a few weeks from now -- days from now. included in that bill is going to be, he said, trillions of dollars in spending, and it's going to be focused on things like $2,000 in direct relief to americans in terms of stimulus checks but it's also going to include tens of millions of dollars put towards the logistical efforts of getting the vaccine disseminated out of the viles into the arms of people. we know the current metrics are lagging behind the expected dissemination schedule that operation warp speed had put out previously. the biden administration really focused on making sure that they can ramp up the efficient efforts. at the same time biden for his part, we know he got the first

dose of that vaccine a few days ago. he's going to get the second dose of his vaccine of coronavirus on monday, alex. >> for the record, ali. i don't want anybody to think i was thinking he was demoting the president-elect. his first days in office as he -- >> he will be spending a lot of time in congress. >> that's true. good point. thank you for covering me. appreciate that. meantime, we're going here to discuss the legal requirements for impeachment is melissa murray. welcome to you as always. let's get to this because first of all, yesterday twitter moved to ban trump from its site permanently. what do you say to people who consider this a violation of his first amendment rights? i have to be honest, i have a good friend with whom i was just discussing this in texting back and forth. the community that she's in, a lot of people are saying that. >> well, to be very clear for all of your viewers, the first amendment only applies to state action, government action. twitter is not a public entity.

it's not a public utility. we may think of social media as akin to a public utility because it is so common and such a platform in our lives, but these are private companies. until they become something other than private companies, until we see perhaps some change in how we regard them, the first amendment doesn't actually apply to facebook, twitter, and these other social media platforms. >> that's a really good point. i hadn't thought of it that way. what do you see as the most likely way for congress to remove the president from office? would it be the 25th amendment? would it be impeachment or would they have to rely on his willingness to resign? >> so there are two constitutional methods for removing a president at this point, three actually if you think about it. the president could resign of his own volition. that's unlikely. the second is to invoke the 25th amendment. that comes from within the executive branch. it's contemplated that the vice president would be the one to call the question, vote with the cabinet that the president is unfit to assume his duties as

president and send a transmittal of that declaration to congress. that's unlikely to happen too. >> let me ask you quickly. could another member of the cabinet do it were vice president pence not willing to do it? could somebody else do it? >> the constitution specifies the vice president or some other body that congress delegates. it seems unlikely that will happen in the next couple of days. the third removal option is impeachment which we've already been down that road before. again, that could happen relatively quickly. it seems like the house is moving to draft articles of impeachment. the real issue is that if they vote to impeach, it then goes to the senate and the senate's adjourned until january 19th, two days before or a day before the inauguration. the question would be would the senate reconvene to retain the impeachment which could happen relatively quickly, but it's not clear that there's appetite among the senators to do that.

of course, to convict on articles of impeachment, you need 2/3 of the senators to do so. the really interesting aspect of impeachment is that you not only have the option to convict the president of the charges with which he was impeached, there is also a separate vote that could be entertained by the senate to further disqualify the president from holding quote, unquote, an office of the united states. that only requires a simple majority and it is believed that if the senate were to disqualify the president, that would prevent him from holding another kind of public office. there's a lot of debate about what's included in those range of offices of the united states but surely it would be a very emphatic step that the president no longer has a place within the body poll particular. >> that is interesting because i didn't realize those two were separate. i'm glad you're ironing that out. the fact is that that could allow for folks who say we don't want to look back. let's just move forward, look forward. that, indeed, would look forward by a simple majority.

here's the question on timing. could an impeachment be pursued on president trump after he leaves office and thereby with a democratic majority after the inauguration to that last point you were making where they could just prevent him with a simple majority in the senate of having office down the road? >> so like i said before on your show, the trump administration is the gift that keeps on giving for constitutional law professors. we have never had a circumstance in our history where there has even been talk of impeaching a president after he's left office. it seems clear and there's been a lot of discussion about this from constitutional law scholars, it seems clear that the logic of the constitution would not prevent a post office impeachment. it can't be imagined that the framers would allow for a president to commit acts of misconduct, impeachable acts of misconduct and evade any kind of

punishment simply because his term of office was coming to a conclusion. it seems perhaps based on the logic of the constitution that there's the possibility that you could have a post office impeachment trial. the question though is do you again have the 2/3 of the senate majority to convict on articles of impeachment? and then will you have the simple majority to disqualify him if it comes to a second disqualification vote. >> melissa, does the second disqualification vote have to follow a 2/3 majority agreeing to that disqualification and impeaching the president or can that be taken up separately? again, i'm sure this is the gift that keeps on giving with constitutional law. i see that. >> it seems from the logic of the impeachment provision of the constitution that you first have to have the conviction and then subsequently the disqualification. there's been debate about whether the two can be completely disaggregated. you can have one without the other. i would say you cannot. it must be conviction and

disqualification. >> let me ask you about the president's personal attorney, rudy giuliani and don jr. let's take a listen to what they said prior to the rally. >> these guys better fight for trump because if they're not, guess what? i'm going to be in your backyard in a couple of months. >> and if we're wrong, we will be made fools of, but if we're right, a lot of them will go to jail. so let's have trial by combat. >> okay. so there is talk of the president certainly pardoning himself. can he preemptively pardon giuliani and his son for their role inciting the riot? >> i think that's very likely. we have seen preemptive pardons in the history of this country before. jimmy carter famously pardoned those who were accused of illegally avoiding the draft. we also saw president andrew johnson in the wake of the civil war preemptively pardon doning

those who had been loyal to the confederacy. it's likely you could see a range of pardons with some of these protesters who stormed the capitol on wednesday. >> melissa murray, thank you for the law class. i do appreciate our discussion and we'll see you again soon. the calm after the storm on capitol hill, but what's to come? up next, how a newly elected congresswoman took action to keep her children safe. she is outraged by what happened but outraged enough to take action? i will talk with her next. but not every tomato ends in the same kind of heinz ketchup. because you can't be everyone's favorite ketchup without making a ketchup for everyone. unstopables in-wash scente boosteryone's favorite ketchup downy unstopables

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forever wherever you go for the rest of your life. >> yikes. that was the scene yesterday at ragan national airport near washington, d.c., where senator lindsey graham was accosted by an angry mob. this comes after graham refused to join his republican colleagues when they objected late on wednesday. joining me now is freshman republican congresswoman from south carolina, nancy mace. welcome, congratulations on your victory. >> thank you. >> being installed there in congress. let me first ask your reaction to what happened to senator graham. your fellow republican from south carolina i might add. >> right. i've been one of the most outspoken and vocal critics of the events that transpired on wednesday, so to say that i feel like a sitting duck especially after seeing and watching that video would probably be an understatement. in fact, i was escorted home by a security detail last night just to take an extra abundance of caution. you know, this is what happens when rhetoric has real

consequences and people take your words literally. and that's why these events happened on wednesday and why i've been such a vocal critic. it's scary. i'm so grateful that i sent my kids home at the first flight out on monday morning. my motherly instinct was it doesn't feel right, safe, my children don't need to be up here in d.c. with me. >> what was it that prompted you to feel unsafe? i mean, the fact that you had to send your children home instead of allowing them this incredible opportunity to watch their mom get sworn into congress. >> right. >> that must have been a tough decision. i understand the instinct. i have kids. safety first. >> safety first. >> what did you see or think that made you think, yeah, this is not going to be good? >> seeing the meltdown that was happening online, the rhetoric by politicians online, the threats i was receiving online from folks on social media. our words have real consequences and it was a wake-up call for me

to see that. and i've been watching. i've been -- it was kind of quiet the last eight weeks observing what was going on. feeling uncomfortable with it. the rhetoric that was rachetting up, particularly in the last 7 to 10 days made me feel uncomfortable. this was a historical swearing in for us. i'm the first republican woman elected to south carolina to congress. i'm a single mom meant the world to me. because of covid-19 we've struggled this year. they haven't been in school since march. you can see the photos of us online. they had their book bags and were going to do school from my office. how cool is that? >> so cool. >> roam the halls and do virtual school. by sunday night i felt this isn't right. you guys, i love you, but you need to go home. i'm so grateful that i made that decision. but it feels like being a sitting duck. i felt like a sitting duck in my office when we were on lockdown and all you could hear were sirens and you learned about the pipe bombs that were planted

across d.c., that the cooler full of molotov cocktails i saw this morning the video of rioters saying hang pence, hang pence. i watched the video this morning of the capitol hill police officer being crushed in a doorway. >> yeah, that's awful. >> very disturbing and saddening. i'm sad for our nation and i've been very strong and vocal, and this week my focus has been on my party and what contributed to this. when we look at the last nine months, and i'm urging my colleagues on both sides of the aisle, for us to take a real strong look at what has been -- what has transpired, the have i owe lens all across our nation, the rhetoric out of both parties and that we think about what kind of country do we want to be going forward. we've got to acknowledge, one, there's a problem in both parties. we need to acknowledge and take responsibility for that and, three, be part of the solution and been talking with my colleagues on what that might look like in the days, the

weeks, and the months ahead. >> during an interview this week you said that the president's entire legacy was wiped out after wednesday. what did you mean by that? >> entirely. entirely. and i supported the president. i worked on his campaign in 2016. he was a supporter of mine in my general election. he's one of the reasons that we flipped so many seats this year, but when i look at everything that happened on wednesday, the riots, the violence, the deaths. five people died. in fact, the young lady that was shot and killed, that happened just steps away from the entrance of the chamber right outside the door of speaker pelosi's lobby. i walked by a crime scene to get into the chamber to vote on wednesday night and thursday morning. and so we've really got to look at everything that happened and it makes me truly angry and sad for my kids and sad for my country. >> i've got to say, i got chills when you said walking by that crime scene to take that vote.

you have 230 lawmakers. they've called for trump's removal from office. adam kinsinger, the only republican on board. are you going to add your name to that list? >> i am not at this juncture. my focus right now, as you heard from your previous interview, if they do -- if the democrats file articles of impeachment, that wouldn't get to the senate until january 19th. we've got the swearing in of joe biden on the 20th. i do think there are political strings going on and i really want us to focus on, one, how did this happen, why did it happen? investigations need to happen on this tragedy on wednesday, but really we need to start uniting our country, republicans and democrats need to stop playing politics. that's why people are so pissed off and angry in this country. there are political charades on both sides of the aisle. he's in office for 12 more days. he's promised a peaceful transition of power and i want us to look forward to solutions after january 20th. i don't want to pour gasoline on the fire at this moment.

every member of congress right now is a sitting duck. there are people that are angry on both sides of the aisle and i think we should be very cautious and weary about how we speak and act and be thought full how we can get through this and how can we unite our country. we all know we're better than this. one of the frustrating things i've seen are the lies that the american people have been told over the last weeks and months. voters hearts and minds and wallets have been taken advantage of and it's time to say enough is enough, we're better than this, acknowledge we have a problem. we need to as politicians, we need to take responsibility for the actions that have happened on both sides of the aisle and work towards finding solutions. we have real problems in this country with covid-19 and our economy and everything else. i'm looking forward to being part of the solution and not the problem. >> south carolina republican congresswoman nancy mace. i appreciate your voice. you're going to have an open invitation to come back on this broadcast and talk to me.

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two republican senators are joining. lisa murkowski says she wants him out. ben sass says trump has

disregarded the oath of office and he would consider impeachment. joining me is alina maxwell. krip bardella, former spokesman for the house oversight committee and elise jordan. this is just a wonderful repeat performance. i'm glad to have you guys all here again. elise, i'll start with you again. there is an op ed titled the conservative case for impeachment. it says the dangers of a failed impeachment are clear. if the senate votes not to punish a president who revels on an assault. if the votes aren't there, it might be better to keep a watchful eye over the sitting president and condemn him through a resolution of censure rather than tell him he is untouchable. do you think republicans have the will to do it? do you think enough of them are going to say after what happened this week enough is enough?

>> well, alex, i would say that they're at as close of a point as they've ever been to going there and rejecting donald trump fully and just cutting off the head, so to speak, and killing his influence within the party, but there's still a lot of down side for these republicans. they don't see why with 12 days or so left that they should go out of their way to anger donald trump's very loyal base, which as we've seen this week is more likely cult movement than a political ideology. this is, you know, the very sad, tragic case of the woman who died, she -- on her way to d.c. she said she was willing to die for donald trump and that is the level of devotion that these republican lawmakers are fearful of if they actually go forward with impeachment. >> there are, curt, some

republicans like senator lyndsey graham, they are against impeachment. they say we need to move forward. look, the trump administration is almost over. it is only going to create more division but after we witnessed and experienced all that we did this past week, can we move forward with any accountability not taking place? >> i don't think we can, alex. i think that when you see the level of violence and how things escalated so quickly and out of control, you can't just sweep that under the rug and say, well, trump leaves office in 12 days. everything is going to be great. things will go back to normal. that is, one, a terrible precedent to set, that there will be no accountability for what was an act of domestic terrorism on our country. i don't remember republicans saying in post 9/11, let's just move on, unite, they started a war. i don't remember republicans saying after benghazi, let's move on. let's come together now.

no. they held hearings. they had investigations. they had subpoenas. they dragged hillary clinton in front of their committee for 13 hours of testimony. republicans are such hypocrites right now. the one thing democrats do need to do when they talk about impeachment, it's not just about the next 12 days, it's about asking republicans do you believe that donald trump. secret service. >> zerlina to you, we have a number of trump administration officials. >> none of it happened this week. >> is resigning, zurlina, now

denouncing the president when he has two weeks left in office, less really, is it all for show? >> yes. those people just gave their notice that you would do when you're leaving a job for another job. and i think that it is the ultimate portrayal of cowardess because they are in the cabinet. they have power. they could help the process along in terms of the 25th amendment. they're resigning in cowardess. let's all remember their names because every single person that's been complicit and i can say this to you because i've been coming on every saturday for four years, and essentially i've said the same thing from the beginning. donald trump is a national security threat. he's always been a national security threat. his rhetoric is a national security threat. we saw the consequences of normalizing his presidency and his behavior for the last four years and i think that as the days go by when we get more

information about whether or not there was coordination among any groups or even folks in the capitol police, we're going to find out that this was a lot more dangerous than it was first portrayed as sort of a bunch of idiots running up on the capitol and stealing podiums. i think that we were very close and based on washington post breakdown of footage to a very big tragedy with our elected members of congress and essentially the line of secession being on the floor of the house. that is a very serious thing that requires full accountability in a criminal court and beyond. >> it was incredibly scary, actually. same question to all of you and, elise, to kurt and zeine. the president is considering pardoning himself and members of his family, do you think the concept of legal action against him is starting to sink in?

elise. >> you could see in that hostage video that someone had gotten to donald trump and had convinced him, hey, there might be serious criminal consequences to the insurrection you incited today at the u.s. capitol. he gives this hostage video and recants it from twitter and then is finally kicked off of twitter. yes, i do think that donald trump, it's starting to sink in that he isn't able to do everything he wants whenever he has any whim and get away with it because it's coming home to roost. >> kurt? >> our justice system is on the line here. if he is not held accountable for all of the crimes that he has committed over the last four years, heck, we just found out there was another phone call that he made in georgia trying to undermine the election and commit sedition. if there is not consequences legally, our justice system doesn't mean anything. >> he's going to have a hard time post presidency and what reputable lawyer law firm is

going to work with donald trump at this point? what firm is going to work with a known seditionist. that's going to cripple him for the rest of his life. >> i think you can add the word bank as well in terms of working with him. they'll be wondering and giving that second thought as well. last word to you, zelina. >> look, i think we're in a really dangerous place in america for the next couple of weeks. we have a president who's unhinged, who wants to self-pardon because he believes he may be vulnerable to prosecution. that demonstrates that he thinks he may have committed some crimes, alex, and i think that, you know, we need to remove the president in a constitutional way, in whatever way. maybe it's republicans having a come to jesus moment and telling him to resign because it's that dangerous. >> okay. amen i'll say to that. zurlina, kurt, elise, great to see you all. hope to see you next saturday. catch the zerlina maxwell show

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hello clean bottom! enjoy the go with charmin. now to the latest on the coronavirus pandemic. the u.s. has added more than 2 million new cases in the first nine days of this year. with the total now 22 million affected, more 269,000 cases new ones were reported yesterday. that is the most in a single day of the pandemic. more than 6.5 million americans have gotten the first dose and you have 22 million doses that have been distributed. president-elect joe biden says his administration plans to release nearly all available doses of the vaccine instead of holding some back for second doses. biden's vaccination plan is expected to include federally run vaccine nation sites. a new cdc study shows nearly half of all coronavirus transmission comes from people who are asymptomatic.

those researchers say the identifying and isolating of people is not enough to control the spread. let's go now to arizona, what is being called the covid hot spot of the world. carefully i go to msnbc's cori coffin in phoenix. i'm glad to see you masked up. how bad are the numbers there? >> reporter: yeah, masked up and staying away from people out here in the state of arizona. i mean, let me show you the numbers. the top three states here, arizona tops that list above rhode island and above the ever horrible california that we keep reporting on when it comes to infection rate. all three of these states, alex, you can see still top the highest country in the world which was the czech republic before the numbers got so high in the states. now, here in arizona, they're in danger of reaching 600,000 infections this weekend and 10,000 covid deaths. it is heart breaking to talk to these doctors and nurses out here about trying to keep their icu beds empty and available as

they get them -- get more and more patients and are running low on oxygen. we have a positivity rate when it comes to covid tests of 18.9%. it is astronomical in this state right now. we spoke to banner health, the largest hospital system about what they're seeing. >> we are consistently operating now at over 100% of our licensed bed capacity. and our icus are very, very full. the most rate limiting issue that all of us face during surge is staffing. our health care heroes are amazing and highly trained individuals. you just can't go out and find more of them. >> reporter: now, we're hearing more and here of the health officials asking for the statewide mask mandate which has not been put in place but what has been put in place is a vaccination expansion. we know they'll use the stadium to grow their mass vaccination

program. that starts on monday with up to 6,000 vaccinations a day. >> a good update. thank you for that. let's go now to msnbc's lindsey riser at a vaccination mega site in the bronx. what are the plans to speed things up there? what exactly is a mega site? >> reporter: well, we're going too get a peek inside here in about an hour. we'll show you video of another mega site in new jersey. and the idea behind these areas is they're in hard-hit areas. they're open all the time and you can vaccinate a ton of people at the same time. so the state of new york they're also going to be expanding who gets access to the vaccine, not just frontline health care workers, but teachers, police officers, firefighters, transit workers. people over the age of 75. they can start signing up on monday, but they're saying, hey, there is still a supply issue. they are telling people to be patient because so many people are going to want to sign up for

this. this morning i talked to dr. howard kohhen, and i asked him about what you just mentioned, the president-elect biden's support of releasing all available vaccines. let's listen to that. >> we need the production to increase and this is why the president-elect has talked more about invoking the defense production act and making supplies more available. the president-elect has committed to getting a million doses administered a day in the new year. only if we reach or exceed that threshold can we ever hope to get most of the country vaccinated by this summer or early fall and get back to sense any sense of normalcy. >> reporter: yeah, that key is the supply. the governor here of new york says that the current shipment pace they won't have herd immunity in this state for nearly a year, alex. >> lindsey riser, thank you so much from the bronx. arresting the rioters, the manhunt for the suspects and why conservative claims that antifa was behind the attack are just outright wrong.

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good day. from msnbc world headquarters here in new york, welcome to "weekends with alex witt." now to the latest. we begin with a live look at capitol hill. 11 days to go before the swearing-in of president-elect joe biden and breaking news of arrests taking place around this country after members of the extremist groups stormed the capitol on wednesday, forcing elected leaders into several hours of lockdown. at least 40 people are now facing charges in superior court. 16 are charged with federal crimes. that includes richard barnett of arkansas photographed here in speaker pelosi's office. he is charged with illegal violent entry and stealing her mail. derrick evans