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secret service is taking the lead and secured a green zone around critical sites. literally par saided the capitol perimeter. the national guard continues to deploy with troop levels attempted to exceed 20,000 in the coming days. according to "the new york times," that's roughly three times the number of american troops deployed in iraq, afghanistan, somalia and syria. it would not be a stretch to say that right now washington, d.c. is preparing for armed conflict. all is necessary to protect against the insurrectionist threat that the president of the united states, donald trump, has released on our country. trump's incitement galvanized a nationwide extremist movement and fueled those determined to disrupt the transfer of power. meanwhile today, trump loyalist mike lindell happened to pay a visit to the white house where

donald trump was holed up all day. he was carrying notes. those notes include the phrase martial law if necessary, among other things, suggesting they could be plotting new ways to overturn the election. now as washington and all 50 state capitols brace for violence, the fbi continues to pursue suspects involved in the deadly siege of the capitol last week. as of this morning, they opened 275 criminal investigations, a number that has likely grown to more than 300 as of just today. it comes as a stunning washington post report confirms how close the lynch mob came to vice president mike pence last week. reporting that if the pro-trump mob had arrived seconds earlier, the attackers would have been in eye sight of the vice president as he was rushed across a reception hall. so this is where we find ourselves. and the thing is we were warned

that violent white supremacy was a growing domestic threat. and i don't just mean by the black lives matter activists who have explicitly said this for the last five years. not just by reporters and people of color that sounded the alarm that charlottesville, and kenosha were not isolated incidents. we were warned by our own government more than ten years ago when a homeland security report came out on right wing extremism, a report that dared to correctly convey that the biggest domestic terrorist threat in the united states was not foreign actors but home grown white supremacists. that report unleashed such a freak-out among conservative pundits that the department actually rescinded it and the warnings went ignored.

and mrs. newman, i want to start with you first because the fact that we knew during the obama administration in 2009 when that report came out, when janet napolitano and then people on the right demanded it be retracted, how much of a hole have we been in on an intelligence side not dealing with the threat of white nationalist domestic terrorism? >> it's been pretty significant. when i came in in 2017, charlottesville happened and i immediately said, okay, who are these people? i in my career have been focussed on al-qaeda and isis. what's going on? this is a concern that people feel like they can just walk in public, show their face and say such horrid things and clearly have a pension for violence that

day. and the answer you would get back from the intelligence community is we don't keep statistics and we don't know how much hate crime there is, so we can't actually tell you if it's about the same or less than or more than it was a year ago or ten years ago. so you would get anecdotal reports from fbi. so we had to turn to outside groups to help us understand the nature of that threat which was clearly growing by that hand. >> and i want to point out, and hopefully your mic is a little hinky but hopefully we'll get through it but i do want to ask you when the trump administration came in, it seemed to me a deliberate decision to downplay the threat of white domestic terrorism and to play up the threat of what they called radical islamic terror and even to try to claim that black lives matter and antifa posed the biggest threat.

did you see that firsthand, that they were trying to whip up a fake threat, basically, of black people and muslims rather than focus on domestic white nationalist terror? >> certainly at the leadership level where trump was speaking publically, he would always over emphasize way more than the stats or any sort of credible threat. he always over criticized threats from antifa. as long as there is -- certainly at the time period of 2015, 2016, i think those in the counter terrorism community would say we were still grappling with this idea radicalization online and people very quickly moving from not ratifies to becoming ratifies to acts of violence. it was a difficult time period to try to figure out the best strategies to try to go after that threat. but because he was so emphasizing islamic terrorism, certainly that meant that

counter terrorism professionals were caught flat footed when we started to see the evidence of this white supremacist threat manifest in 2018 and came into its own in 2019, but the price tag of that the el paso attack and a number of others as well. we were not prepared, even though certain voices were starting to raise the alarm, we were not prepared. >> yeah. and when the president was inciting it as well. you and i talked about this, the failure of imagination to imagine the idea that white americans could be dangerous. by default this was looked aside, even if it wasn't just a conspiracy to silence it because trump thought those were his people. but i want to ask you. when you looked at these videos, more and more coming out every day, do you see a higher level of coordination, rather than just a bunch of trump rabble that they will come to a lark or do you see coordination? the first piece is some police officers talking about what they actually experienced.

this is cut to from my producers. >> pure chaos. and i just remember, you know, people still swinging metal poles at us and they were pushing and shoving. they were spraying with us with mace and pepper spray. >> i was being beaten with a thin blue line flag. they were chanting, kill him with his own gun. the people that helped me, you know, thank you. but [ bleep ] you for being there. >> and then one more. this is one of the police officers who faced this mob. this is video that i just saw for the first time last hour in ari's show. here it is. this is one of the police officers facing this mob. g thisb

>> that is really sort of new information because it shows you what he was hearing was where are they counting the votes and this mob demanding he tell them where they're counting the votes. he leads them in the wrong direction and misdirected them. when you look at these videos, do you see a high level of coordination that exists, that we have been told back and forth whether it exists? >> yes. the question to ask is was this a terrorist cell in trying to carry out a terrorist attack. it's insurgency. whatever label we want to put to this, this was not an organic event. there was some level of planning. there was an intent. they knew where to go. they knew what they were trying to do. and to me that means this is a cell. when there is a cell, that means there is a command and control cell. there is a cell that goes out and does things. there is all intelligence

gathering cell. there is a cell that goes and finances this. this is a terrorist organization. and, yes, i mean, we have to claim it as such. the thing that's frustrating me so much, joy, right now is even today the inability of federal law enforcement officials, the department of defense to claim that this is a threat to our national security. i understand the concerns about civil liberties, and i think we all agree those should be defended but just to call this a threat to our national security. these people got farther than bin laden did. again, we need to look at this as a national security threat. this should give people pause that this was a planned event. who monetized this? who funded this? who helped planned this? who were the people behind this? was there an active cell in that mob, you know, carrying out specific orders? i think we will find the answer to that and frankly very much the answer is yes. >> and what we're finding out now, in addition to the stories about bitcoin money being sent

to people involved in organizing this day, capitol tours being given by unnamed members of congress. we also have from the associated press 21 current or former military or law enforcement have been identified at being at the capitol riot. you have this sense that you had people who knew what they were doing surrounded by lots and lots of people who were hyped up and part of it and maybe surrounding them providing cover for people who seemed to know what they were doing. so then the question becomes who is who, right? there is one person looking for a pardon already. this is a guy named jacob chansley. his attorney, his defense in this case is that he took seriously the countless messages from the president. and this is the guy in the outfit in the beaver hat outfit. the attorney said the words and invitation of a president are supposed to mean something. given the peaceful and compliant fashion, it would be appropriate and honorable for the president

to pardon him. he's looking for a pardon on that basis. set aside the pardon idea because trump doesn't care about these people. wouldn't that be an admission of guilt and wouldn't that become a hoist on his moment for him legally? and secondly, does this also give evidence that trump was involved? >> well, i'm glad that he has a good lawyer. he's advocating for him. but i think you have nailed it, joy. this is politically, at least, and optically something the president can't do, even though it wouldn't be an actual admission of guilt. it would be awfully close to say he owned the actions of the mob. so the interesting thing about what we're going through as we look at all this evidence is suddenly the american people are -- they're inside of the fbi squad room. they're inside of the u.s. attorney's office. this is what it looks like for prosecutors and investigators in the days and weeks after an incident when all of the

evidence is coming in fast and curious and you're trying to sort it out and figure out what it means. you don't know what evidence is good. you don't know what evidence is misleading. like navid says, there is some indications here of control, of conspiracy. we don't know that for certain. we do know that there is a legacy inside of the u.s. attorney's offices of grappling with these white supremacist groups. during my tenure, i dealt with sovereign citizens and league of the south. so i expect there is investigation across the country into whether these groups, some of the newer groups like the bug loo boys acted in a fashion where they were controlling and organizing. the frustrating thing for us because we're inside of that fbi squad room, is we have to let the evidence come in. we have to try to put it together in a sensible fashion, figure out what's good evidence, what's misleading, and ultimately we'll know whether or not there was an organized conspiracy and who its leaders were. >> and, joyce, if you were still

in a u.s. attorney's office right now, would you be also expanding that to people like members of congress who might have led a tour of some of these people who then turned up the next day? even people like rudy giuliani. he sent this weird tweet today where people are trying to figure out was he tweeting about somebody who is a member of the conspiracy? was he discussing cash patel, somebody who is start of donald trump's pentagon leadership? everyone is wondering what he's talking about. could this be a wider net that includes people like rudy giuliani? that gets closer and closer to the president? >> i think it's a real moment of national trauma to say that we have to investigate people who are our elected officials, people who are close to the president. but the reality is, i mean, it's not just something we say. no man is above the law. if there were people in congress who aided and abetted this incursion into the capitol, then they need to be fully investigated.

we don't know if there is criminal liability. but all of the facts need to be uncovered. the investigation needs to be serious, and it needs to be sincere. there is a provision in the law, joy, that increases the sentence for someone who occupies a position of trust or an elected official. that's because we know for these people that violate the law, it is a more serious abuse. they need to be investigated thoroughly. >> absolutely. and navid, i'll give you the last word on this because have you seen in these kinds of investigations something that crosses over into potentially political leaders either inflaming this kind of activity, people overseas potentially bank rolling it? how broad do you think this minds up being as an investigation? in your mind, do you think it has not been public enough? >> joy, it's what i said to you the last four years about counter intelligence. if you are doing a counter intelligence investigation after the fact, you have already

failed. look, this should be investigated. i certainly appreciate what joyce is saying. but there is another part of this. counter terrorism is not meant to just investigate an act after it occurred. we want to stop future acts. i mean, that's the goal of counter terrorism. there is no doubt when president biden is sworn in that these groups will no go away. understanding and investigating this event should help us stop the next event. and look, joy, i look at this and i look at the video and everything we have seen so far. we got damn lucky and the next time we may not. this isn't just about investigating, looking backwards. that's history. we need a solution going forward and prioritize the threat. >> you're absolutely right. it is easy to laugh at donald trump meeting with the pillow salesman, but this is serious stuff. they are both ridiculous and

dangerous. thank you all very much. please be safe out there. and up next on "the reid out"republicans play to the megamob threatening that any attempt to hold members of their own party accountable for the siege on the capitol could result in more violence. surprise, surprise. plus, what is the democrats impeachment strategy? give trump a speedy trial or allow a more investigation. so what does the future hold for the trump family? back with more of "the reid out" after this. this you know that look? that life of the party look walk it off look one more mile look reply all look own your look... ...with fewer lines. there's only one botox® cosmetic. it's the only one...

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there were qanon and white supremacist sympathizers and white supremacists members of

congress in that extraction point who i know and who i have felt would disclose my location and allow me to -- who would create opportunities to allow me to be hurt, kidnapped, et cetera. >> 25,000 national guard troops will fortify the u.s. capitol to handle the external threats. but what about the threatening calls coming from inside the house. there were a lot of questions about whether any republican members of congress had any involvement in last week's deadly insurrection. the capitol police say the complaints by house democrats about alleged tours given my republican members on january 5th to rally goers are under investigation. we saw face this sad reality. some democrats of congress are worried their colleagues might kill them. dan buyer told nbc, quote, it's the most poisonous i have ever

seen. there is the overall sense that some of them have guns and likely the more into conspiracy series with the ped fillic satanic rings. are we safe from them, unquote. nancy pelosi gave this morning today to any congressional members found to have aided the trump mob. >> if, in fact, it is found that members of congress were accomplices to this insurrection, if they aided and abetted the crime, there may have to be actions taken beyond the congress and in terms of prosecution for that. >> joining me now is stacy plas get, one of the nine house impeachment managers and david frum. thank you both for being here.

congresswoman, were you, yourself, aware of these tours through the capitol taking place? did you know about them yourself beforehand or even afterwards? >> no, i did not know about them. i have heard through reporting that that might have taken place. and i'm waiting anxiously to hear the investigations or other information that comes out about that as well as other activities that members of congress may have been engaged in to support this attempted coup on our government. >> yeah. i want to play for you a couple of house members who were talking about the threats that they're facing for not playing along with what these seditionists wanted. that is cut two from my producers. >> colleagues traveling with armed escorts. many of us are altering our routines, working to get body armor, which is a reimbursable purchase that we can make. it is sad that we have to get to that point, but, you know, our

expectation is that someone may try to kill us. >> that was taped to my office door just a few minutes ago, and it is in reference to me not supporting the objection to the articles of impeachment. >> congresswoman, do you feel safe around all of these members, including nearly a dozen qanon believers who are in the qanon caucus? do you feel safe around them? >> listen, being black in america doesn't always make you feel safe. but i feel more than not i have a duty to do what i'm doing right now, and i know that there are amazing, excellent capitol police officers who have gone above and beyond, and that was demonstrated by so many of their valiant efforts on that fateful day. and i am and my family are doing what's necessary, even outside of them, to ensure my and the safety of my family.

many people forget that we are not just members of congress. we have husbands and wives and childrens and our many cases really trying to do the best for our constituents and for the american people. >> david, let me bring you in here because you have senator lindsey graham who i thought the message that he had coming out of this after having said, i've had enough and then changed his mind and got on the trump train. this is what he said. >> the president of the united states was impeached today without one witness being called, without a lawyer present and it's an assault on the presidency itself. these actions, if they continue, will incite more violence. >> now, on the one hand you could say, yes, if you look at the polls, most republicans still completely support donald trump, think he bears zero blame for what happened. you can look across the country and see that local republicans

are still all onboard. very few have jumped off the trump train. they're very much in his camp. you could say that's a statement about reality. but it also sounds like a threat. and i wonder what you make of a senator, a senior senator from south carolina making that kind of statement when we're going to have a trial going on of donald trump in the senate that does pose a physical risk to even some republicans who are taking part. >> one of the reasons this impeachment process is so very, very useful right now is once donald trump has been impeached by the house, it puts a collar around his neck in the senate. mitch mcconnell can effectively say to the president, look, if you behave yourself, if there are no further attempts at coup d'état or corrupt pardons, this process will not complete before the 20th of january. but if you do something else, one more thing, this could be on the floor of the senate at any

time. and mitch mcconnell does have the necessary 17 votes that would put this over the top and remove donald trump from office even before. i don't think that's what's going to happen. but i think mcconnell is engaged in regulating the president's activity. so the kind of meeting that apparently happened at the oval office today where the president was talking about a military coup with the my pillow guy, not the person you want to get advice on on how to make a military coup, but there is a choke on him because, again, tomorrow, if the senate voted, the president could be out of a job in an hour. >> and without a pension. i mean, the fact, though, that you have roger stone, steve bannon, michael flynn, two of the three of them already pardoned who seem to have been at least a part of this in some way in advance, set that aside meaning these constituencies on the right are still there and still dangerous, that you have people like franklin graham who leads white evangelicals in many ways calling these republicans

akin to judas. it feels to me like people in the trump base want more violence or at least they're not acting like they don't. i wonder if you think this impeachment trial becomes a new focal point that does risk another conflict because that's what they want. >> may i say something, joy? >> david first, and then the congresswoman. >> sure. >> i think many people in the conservative world, the money raising conservative world have lost sight of the idea that words mean anything. words don't mean anything to them. they speak with incredible verbal violence. this has been going on since the election of barack obama. one of the shocks that people have discovered is, wait a minute, i never took any of this seriously and there are people out there who are listening? so that's one of the reasons that this situation is so tense and fraught, why the bridges are closed between washington, d.c.

and virginia for the 24 hours preceding the impeachment because people who only wanted to make a dishonest dollar or get some tv time have stirred up something they themselves do not understand. >> yeah. and cannot be controlled. i will give you the last word on this, congresswoman. the last word goes to you. >> thank you. i just want to say what we're hearing and what has happened, president trump has been engaged in a prolonged effort over many years and culminating in what we saw on january 6th. but that prolonged effort was based on lies, was based on falsehoods. so many people have bought into those things. so to not lie at this point is difficult for many people. and they need to hold on to these claims, need to hold on to these lies. but the importance that we have in the impeachment is to expose them. we cannot be unified, and there cannot be reconciliation until

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wall street and lobbyists stuck by donald trump for years, through charlottesville, through the caging of children, through the more than 390,000 americans dead from the coronavirus. they flocked to his hotels, his properties, allowing trump to profit off of the presidency. and they profited as well thanks to trump's huge tax cuts for the super rich. after last week's riot on capitol hill, they finally decided they're done. companies from deutsche bank to the pga have cut ties with trump and his company. and so have actual cities from new york city to palm beach county. but it's the lenders trump should be most worried about where he could be on the hook for millions of dollars when several large loans he has personally guaranteed come due in the next two years. meanwhile, it is not just trump who is under fire. the backlash spread to trump's family as well. in a piece in "vanity fair,"

emily jane fox writes after trump supporters staged an insurrection of the capitol, the fear that accompanied it has dried up says one former friend of ivanka's. how do you associate yourself with the worst, most toxic people in u.s. history? jason johnson. i admit i'm fascinated with this, emily, because the trump, you know, sire, he built up this brand that was -- that got him to be president. the fact that he was able to lie about being a billionaire, make himself seem super rich and really successful at real estate gets him "the apprentice." "the apprentice" gets himself the presidency, and now because he's himself he has trashed that brand. but the kids don't have any other currency except that surname. walk us through how bad off

other than javanka, how bad are the children? >> if you asked me two weeks ago based on all the people i talked to about jared and ivanka and i talked to a lot of people. if you asked me two weeks ago, i would have said, they will be just fine. they will cash in on all the opportunities they spent the last four years creating in their time in the west wing, as illegal and immoral as that was. i think ivanka thought she had a bright particular future, particularly in florida. over the last week, all of the sources who for the last four years continued to protect ivanka and jared to me, people who wouldn't talk to me on the record or even on background with them have now started changing their tune. many are either talking to me for the first time or talking negatively to me for the first time. that doesn't mean they grew moral compasses or grew a spine

or that what happened in the capitol was over the line to them. what that signals to me is that for the first time there is no fear about the future of jared and ivanka. the power that they had has completely dissolved. and the people that were protecting them or thought they would be in business with them in the future no longer think they were viable forces in the american economy or the american political landscape. it was a huge shift to me and i think it's one we will continue to see play out. >> indeed. her last name is still trump, right? she didn't change her last name to kushner. her brand is out of the stores. you have ivanka's best friend coming out before and saying that why would you tell me to read a book about f'ing poor people, i remember ivanka saying. everyone guessed they were bad people. now they know they're bad people. but to you, jason, donald trump

himself is a broke person in addition to everything else. he can't anymore pay his adult failed sons to do stuff, whatever it is they did for him. he doesn't have any money. he might get foreclosed. >> look, what i see right now is a situation where they're going to be capitaliing not just off their brand. the trump name is up there with bill cosby and, you know, subway after the jared scandal. it's in bad shape, right? now, the issue is what do they really have to offer? well, they're not going to settle out their own family, right? they're not going to do that because they think they can milk that. jared kushner was highly unqualified but put in access to all sorts of secret information. there is all sorts of secret information they got access to that they can sell and parlay around the world. what will be interesting is what's important to trump's

children. is it important they are still invited to cool parties when we get out of covid? is it important they're still at the grammy's? is it important they're still at major events because that's done. that's done for a long time. but if it is just about making money, they can cash in on their access for a while. but that may not work for their father because he's got too many lawsuits coming his way. >> indeed. you do wonder why jared was in saudi arabia. maybe he was already starting to cash in. emily, is that stuff important to them. melania trump won't meet with joe biden, that ivanka and jared refuse to let their own secret service detail use their six toilets. you can go on and on. stephanie winston wol cot said she wouldn't move in until the obama's toilet was gotten rid of. everything about this brand, this trump brand is trash. do they care about that or do they just care about money? >> it's hard to just put into view how much they care about that. that is pretty much the sole

thing that ivanka has cared about her entire life. she spent the last 40 years trying to craft that. it's very important to her father what her brand looks like. you know, when you are born rich, when you have all of the money in the world, obviously making more money is very important to you, but all you care about is amassing power from that money. jared kushner has more money than you and i could ever dream about having, but they will not have the access to power they enjoyed so much their entire life, and i think that will kill them every single day. >> to throw some politics in, jason johnson, since you are a political analyst and a political science guy, there was always this theory that trump could then continue to yield power in the republican party, but his brand is garbage. >> right. >> i wonder how much that's true now that no one wants to speak his name or donate to anyone at all involved with him.

>> oh. politicians are single minded seekers of re-election. that's a basic theory of political science. if there is any way you could get some value donald trump, these people will atash attach themselves to him. look at josh hawley and ted cruz? so, look, he'll still wield power in the party. you have way too many republicans that are like, well, you know, as long as i have some tax cuts with my racism, i'm good with it. what's going to end up happening is his track record is running up against his brand, right? that's what's hurting his businesses, but it is also hurting him politically. the people that donald trump endorses don't end up winning and that will make him powerful within the party. >> yeah, indeed. thank you guys very much. stay safe out there. and coming up, how will president biden reverse the vaccine roll-out nightmare and

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okay. before we jump into the next segment which will be about the vaccine program that president-elect biden is going to roll out, breaking news was just posted that says three days before thousands of rioters converged on the u.s. capitol

hill, a police report warned of a violent scenario where congress itself laying out a stark alert. that is a big deal. i wanted to make sure you heard that breaking news. president-elect joe biden takes the helm of this country at a deadly time. and now the cdc is warning that millions more are in danger of getting infected by a new and highly contagious variant of the coronavirus. hospitals are overrun and vaccines are running low. even though the trump administration said that they would release additional doses, health officials are reporting that no reserve doses remain in the stockpile, none. according to "the washington post," officials were told that operation warp speed stopped stockpiling second doses at the end of last year instead taking

second doses directly off the manufacturing line. the last shots held in reserve of moderna's supply began shipping out over the weekend. dr. robert redfield issued a dire warning today. he told npr that the country is about to be in the worst months of the pandemic. amid all of this news, the president-elect rolled out a five-point plan today on how he plans to fulfill his pledge to vaccinate 100 million people in his first 100 days in office. >> get more people vaccinated for free, create more places for them to get vaccinated. mobilize more medical teams to get the shots in people's arms. increase supply and get it out the door as soon as possible. i'm convinced we can get it done and this is a time to set big goals to pursue them with courage and conviction because the health of the nation is

literally at stake. >> the biden administration is getting almost no help from the current administration. "the washington post" is reporting that the trump administration has balked at providing access to information and failed to consult with its successors. i'm joined by dr. zeke emmanuel and a member of president-elect biden's covid-19 advisory board. there's so much going on. dr. emmanuel, can you talk about how bad is this, just to be blunt? you have the new president coming in saying he wants to have 100 million people vaccinated. but the last administration couldn't even do the 20 million that they promised to do by the year's end. how bad is it? >> it's bad in part, joy, because we're having the surge on the surge on the surge. we're seeing the big rise because of christmas and new year's coming due and that is putting new stress. plus you have this new variant

that's involved in the country and as the cdc said, it's going to spread and have more people infected too. on the other hand, president biden has created a team that is extremely competent that has put together an excellent plan that is looking at every single aspect necessary. first is supply. make sure you've maximized the supply. not just of the vaccine, but of the syringes, the needles, the glass tubes. make sure you have enough places to give it to people. just don't rely on pharmacies. mass vaccination sites like stadiums and parking lots, you have a physician offices, make sure they're involved. so there's a whole plan to make sure that there are multiple opportunities for people to get the vaccine. and then there's encourage more flexibility on who gets it.

it's a comprehensive plan and there's money, the proposal for $20 billion to support all of this aspects and more people, the national guard and 100,000 more public health workers. that's a comprehensive plan. the trump administration never developed the comprehensive plan for distributing and administering it. joe biden before he's even president already has that comprehensive plan. >> yeah. i want to show people where we are. this was the -- so far how we've done on distributing and administering the vaccine. 31 million doses have been distributed but only 12 million, this is shocking, you've had number of people receiving one or more doses is only 10 million. number of people receiving two doses, 1 million. the ramp up, and i'm going to put up president-elect biden's plan, $20 billion, local vaccination centers, getting the national guard in. can you walk us through logistically how do you get a

hundred million people to take the vaccine? does this mean we're going to be lining up in stadiums and having members of the national guard? there are senior citizens sleeping on sidewalks in florida because the governor there through vaccine in the air and said somebody come and get it. >> that's not a very organized proposal. the first thing is, the federal government can't organize that. at the local level, where you get your vaccine, that has to be done by the state and local health departments. part of president biden's plan is to empower them and work with them. and part of that is, you hear this complaint all the time, i was on a call at the university of pennsylvania today, we don't know ahead of time how much vaccine we're going to get. we were promised a certain number, 20,000, and then it reduced to 15,000. so one of the primary tasks that president biden has issued to his team is, make it

predictable, give people three weeks of lead time so they know what to plan for. have these multiple channels. not just one channel. you mentioned, cvs, parking lots, stadiums, mobile clinics, all of those, not just one of them, all of them. you also need to schedule it. you can't just say, line up. that also just wastes people's time and is very, very inefficient. you don't want people crowding and you want them spaced out because of the contagion. so i think all of those are elements -- >> let me ask you this question really quickly, what do you do with dumb governors. you have governors like ron desantis who don't care about covid? what do you do? >> the first and most important thing is you work with them and they haven't had clear instructions and clear education and part of what we're trying to do is to give them a clear road map and the help they need for

establishing a road map. i don't know about the -- >> it makes sense -- we are out of time. but, yeah, you can't fix dumb. thank you very much. appreciate you guys for watching tonight's reidout. tonight on all in, five days from inauguration with a capitol on lockdown and a president still scheming, how one party's moral failure, fear and disloyalty to the country led america to this point and how it's not too late to do the right thing. then, as federal prosecutors allege insurrectionists plotted to capture and assassinate elected officials, the police officer dragged, beaten and tased by trump's mob speaks out. >> they were chanting, kill him with his own gun. >> as furious governors rail on the white house for