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lady gaga, jennifer lopez are performing. final programming reminder, you can dvr the beat on your remote. press the cable home page, search melber, never miss an episode. record us. we appreciate it. that does it for me. wish you a good martin luther king day. hope the day is meaningful for you. we're back tomorrow at 6:00 p.m. eastern. "the reidout" is next. >> happy mlk day, we are 14 hours away from joe biden's inauguration as president of the united states. downtown washington, d.c. has been divided up like a war torn country into a red zone and green zone with 25,000 members of the national guard deployed to the city. new security check points, roads
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blocked off. d.c. so much on edge, they are vetting the national guard themselves to make sure they don't pose a threat. the unprecedented security comes after the siege on january 6th. we are learning disturbing details about what exactly went on. the associated press and "the washington post" report that trump allies and washington insiders were behind the so-called stop the steal rally that preceded the capitol hill riot. a shocking video from the new yorker shows rioters forcing their way into the capitol and senate chamber looking specifically for house speaker nancy pelosi. >> knock knock, we're here. >> where the [bleep] are they? where are they? >> while we're here, might as well set up a government.
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>> the video also depicts trump supporters taunting the police and attempting to justify their behavior by saying they were just listening to trump. >> there are millions of us. >> it is an arlgt other rioters used to defend themselves. here is a texas realtor in an interview with a cbs affiliate in dallas, fort worth. >> i thought i was following my president, i thought i was following what we were called to do. he asked us to fly there, to be there. i was doing what he asked us to do. >> and it is not just trump whose support the people have, in the new yorker video rioters justify their actions claiming ted cruz would support them. >> cruz would want us to do it. i think we're good. >> when asked for comment, cruz's spokesperson didn't exactly directly address the
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trump supporters mentioning his name, said senator cruz repeatedly said the attack is reprehensible and criminals that carried out the attack should be prosecuted. whether from left or right, the violent criminals should go to jail for a very long time. joining me, my friend and colleague, ali velshi, host of msnbc's velshi, i never miss it every weekend. ali, talk about what you're seeing. i was there earlier today, i have never seen anything like it. i was at the '08 inaugural, lots of security, first black president inaugurated, this is much more intense. what are you seeing. >> i've never seen anything like this in america. as soon as the bus goes by, there's the capitol behind us. can't get closer than i am. right up to the tape. and it keeps changing through the course of the day.
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intersections with new intersections blocked off. that's a secured section behind me. there is new seven foot fence, razor wire on top of the fence. security, capitol police, secret service, buses, another one passing by now that are moving personnel around the city. the buses, this one is empty, it dropped people off. there's a real sense they tightened this out. they're expanding the perimeter further and further from the capitol, three or four hundred blocks you can't get to now. the bottom line, there were supposed to be demonstrations yesterday that didn't materialize, supposed to be demonstrations tomorrow, there are no permits. couple of permits for a couple of random demonstrations, and wednesday is the day they're trying to stop. that part seems to have succeeded. we're not getting crowds here. now the concern is whether anybody on the other side of the tank or other side of the perimeter fences and the other side of razor wire poses a threat. officials says there's no direct
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intelligence that suggests they do, but you've seen arrests of police officers, involvement possibly by capitol police, we have also had a police officer in virginia who was an off duty national guard member. the fbi is taking it upon themselves to check background checks on national guard people. joy, i have to say i am puzzled it hasn't been done before. i guess we didn't know so many people have very public overwhelming relationships to some white supremacist groups and far right extremist groups. that's where the energy is now. they hardened the perimeter, now they're trying to figure out if anyone inside is a threat. joy? >> it is remarkable. i remember seeing a military display like that before. i think for a lot of americans, they're not used to seeing that when people that are secured are whites and conservatives. i think for people it is stark. looks like a war zone. stay safe, my friend.
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thank you for great reporting. really appreciate you. >> thanks. i am joined by congresswoman madeline dean of pennsylvania, one of nine house impeachment managers, and john brennan, former cia director. jump to you quickly, director brennan. this is unusual. it does look like iraq. what do you make of given your career and what you've seen in your career the fact that we have to secure the capitol from our own citizens. i'm curious how you feel about that. >> well, as you said, joy, this is something that i and other national security colleagues for many years would see overseas in various war torn countries and other countries struggling along the democratic path. i never thought we would have to go to such lengths to try to protect our capitol and leaders from insurrection on the part of so many individuals who responded unfortunately to the
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call of donald trump and other individuals in the government and congress who have called upon them to try to undermine our democratic processes, specifically the election of joseph biden. therefore, i think the steps being taken are very, very important, very prudent, we need to make sure all measures are undertaken to ensure the safety and security of those who are gathering wednesday to welcome the new president of the united states. >> before i get the congresswoman in, when you saw the incursion, sir, what you saw, it did look like an eastern european capitol falling, looked like sort of the end stage something. do you believe, how close do you think the lawmakers came to being really harmed or maybe being kidnappings or having someone killed? >> well, i think it was only because of the heroic actions of some capitol police officers and the secret service and others to try to get individuals out of
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harm's way. as we watch footage of individuals running rampant in chambers of the house and senate and came very close to members of congress, who knows what the individuals might have decided to do if they were able to get their hands on members of congress. it is appalling. it is something that should trouble and deeply disturb all americans. hopefully we'll never again see a repetition of this very, very unfortunate event. >> you know, congresswoman, you were one of the people victimized, looking for people that do what you do for a living, members of congress. it sends chills through my bones and blood listening to them scream where's nancy. it appears the people really did expect that speaker pelosi would be on the other side of that door when they were smashing through the glass and one of the rioters was shot. on the other side of the door were members of congress. you think about how close people like yourself came.
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when you hear somebody like lindsey graham sending a letter to chuck schumer essentially demanding that impeachment be cancelled and then look at this footage, he says the senate should vote to dismiss article of impeachment, once it is received in the senate, we will be delaying indefinitely if not forever the healing of this great facial if we do otherwise. being a victim yourself, what do you make of it when he writes that? >> joy, thank you for inviting me tonight, very much appreciate it. it is an honor to be with john brennan. thank you for your service to our country. let me talk about how we got here. a deadly virus spread across this nation and it is a virus of lies. that's where we are. so i'm ashamed for lindsey graham. i am shocked, i guess i
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shouldn't be, that he learned nothing, that it is the president who incited this mob attack, this insurrection against a joint session of congress. let's all remember something. this was house and senate, this was not any ordinary session day where one was in and the other wasn't. it was house and senate. it was also his own vice president. and this mob came and came to assassinate nancy pelosi, they came to hang the vice president of the united states. they hunted down members of congress and of course they also hunted for members of the press. i was up in the gallery with your own colleagues. it was a terrifying day. let's not forget how we got here. it is from the infection of lies. >> let me play for you one of your fellow democratic congress members, steve cohen of tennessee, saying he saw names who he saw giving a tour, not saying the people were necessarily involved in the
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insurrection riot, but take a listen to him. >> taking a group of people for a tour sometime after the third -- she had a large group with her. [ inaudible ] might have had a large number of people coming to be with her on this historic occasion, wanting to give them the opportunity to have a tour. it was pretty clear that her team is the team. she's not on the home team. she was with the visitors. >> she is not on the home team, she was with the visitors. he is speaking of colorado representative lauren boebert. do you feel safe around people like her and margery taylor green that are members of the qanon cult? do you feel safe around them? >> i won't speculate at all on
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that, i did not see any of it. obviously the investigations will reveal a lot. what i'm focused on, you know i have the honor to be named among the impeachment managers, i'm focused on behavior of the threat, the constitutional violation of his oaths. think of the week we're in, strange rhetorical setting. it was four years ago this week that the president of the united states swore his oath of office to preserve, protect, defend the constitution of the united states. what we have seen is a president fail to do that in historically dangerous ways. yet we also have this wednesday a new president taking that same oath of office. where i am, i have the solemn duty to be among the nine impeachment managers with jamie raskin as our lead and we will go forward in the senate to say this president must be held accountable. i'm so mindful that today is martin luther king day. i was a little girl when martin
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luther king lived and died and was assassinated. i used to teach writing. i never let a semester go by probably a week go by without teaching some of his beautiful wise words. so i call upon members of the house and of course members of the senate most importantly to remember his words. the ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in times of comfort and convenience but where he stands in times of challenge and controversy. contrast that with the march on washington in 1963. what were people there marching for? economic justice, civil rights, voting rights. what were the people, mob, insurrection coming for a few weeks ago? they were coming for the narcissistic power grab of a single man. what a contrast. let's live up to martin luther
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king's ideals and his beautiful words. >> very eloquently said. want to play the person that led the last impeachment, congressman adam schiff who was eloquent as well in his closing of the first impeachment of donald trump. here he is talking about what he thinks should happen when trump is no longer in office. then i have a question for you, mr. brennan. >> there's no circumstance in which this president should get another intelligence briefing, not now, not in the future. i don't think he can be trusted with it now and in the future he certainly can't be trusted. >> and mr. brennan, former deputy director of national security sue gordon said the same, my recommendation as 30 plus year veteran of the intelligence community is not to provide briefings after january 20 which is solely the new president's prerogative. he can mitigate one aspect of the risk posed by donald trump, private citizen. he plans to use the power of the presidency to give himself a
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party before he is gone. are you concerned if he gets intelligence briefings, all of that will be for sale? do you believe he should be cut off from access to intelligence briefings when he is no longer president, regardless when he is convicted. >> i certainly do, joy. i don't think he was ever to be trusted with this nation's secrets and intelligence, i see no earthly reason he should continue to receive any type of intelligence briefings after he leaves the white house wednesday. the secret service can ensure that any security related matters are going to be brought to his attention, but i would be very concerned about his continued access to intelligence because he has not used it while he was in office, he disrespected it and members of the intelligence community, and who knows what he might do with that information. i think very clearly is somebody out for his own good, his own objectives. having additional intelligence made available to him would be very foolish and inconsistent
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with our national security requirements. >> thank you both. really appreciate your time. happy mlk day. please be safe. up next on "the reidout," president-elect biden lays out an ambitious agenda, including undoing trump's most destructive policies. and trump is freeing his cronies. will they hand the keys to the qanon caucus. and calling black votes fraud lengths tweeting their favorite quotes that they don't even begin to understand. back with more of "the reidout" after this. ith more of "the rei after this ♪♪ for skin as alive as you are... don't settle for silver 7 moisturizers 3 vitamins 24 hours hydration
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united states, joe biden, when he first steps foot into the oval office wednesday is ready and eager to jump start a vaccine rollout plan that includes scores of new vaccination sites and pledge to deliver 100 million doses in the first 100 days. meanwhile, we're seeing a different but predictable use of taxpayer money by twice impeached one term current president who will not be attending his successor's inauguration, choose to go depart for florida. it leaves the chief usher to greet the new first family, not before throwing himself a sendoff at joint base andrews, ellen joy the pageantry that those like kim jong-un demand, it may include color guard, red carpet, 21 gun salute, fly over by fighter jets all on your dime. you're welcome, taxpayers. trump can depart on air force
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one, a plane that loses that designation the moment biden takes the oath. then and only then will the horrific deadly reality show that sought to violently destroy our democracy finally fade to black. joining me, sher lynn iefl from the defense and education fund. i don't know if it is just me. in a sense i know donald trump is going to film his big departure to use it for some marketing purpose down the road, almost like do it, man, just go away. there's so much work to do that i feel like it doesn't matter if he and melania have tea with the bidens. i don't know if i'm alone. do you feel like the urgency is just go, however you need to go, let's get on with the work. >> yeah, joy, i'm not at all interested in the ceremony and pretense that this is normal. there has been no peaceful transfer of power, january 6th
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with that, and in any case, wouldn't want trump to be maskless around the president-elect and vice president-elect and first lady, so really honestly, i don't see the up side of pretending this is an important thing to happen. moreover, so much work to be done. >> you're my caribbean american sister. you understand all i want them to do is have a bottle of detol and clean out the white house. there's a lot joe biden wants to get on with in terms of his first day. rejoining the paris agreement, extending, sorry, ending the muslim ban. extending restrictions on eviction and foreclosures, extend the pause on student loan payments. those are listed in the first things. do you think there should be a sixth thing, meaning getting the
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john lewis voting rights act passed? feels like a short window to get a lot done. protecting the vote feels urgent after the insurgency. >> it is critically important. we are a comic family. there are actually two bills. hr 1 which is the for the people act and hr 4, john lewis act. we're looking at both of those. they need to move. frankly, i think hr one is the broader piece of legislation that covers a variety of voting matters. it may move first. both of them should be given the highest attention. your guest, john brennan, the former cia director, said what we saw january 6th is something he has seen with countries on the path to democracy. i think we have to recognize this country is still on the path to democracy. voter suppression did not start
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with trump, it has been around a long time. we have to get on with urgency to the democracy issues that left us so vulnerable. yes, i think moving both those pieces of legislation has to be added to the list. >> and so there's a couple blocks. the covid piece is huge, we're talking about potentially a half million people could be dead of covid by february, which is horrifying to think about the numbers of dead and americans being like waving it off. when it comes to the mask mandate piece of this, how much latitude in federal law do you think that president biden is going to have, and how much fight might he end up in court to try to institute a mask mandate? >> to the extent his executive order covers federal agencies, federal property, federal buildings, i think he will be on absolutely solid ground. i think the most important thing is doing what he has done, use
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the bully pulpit, take away the sting of the political from the wearing of masks. even more important than that, joy, is the vaccine and addressing what we're already seeing as racial disparities in the provision of the vaccine. we are not part of the death cult of people that thought it was okay to let grandparents pass away and be sacrificed. we love our elders, want them to be happy. we need to get the vaccine to black communities, especially in the rural south and cities, and that has to be the highest priority, not just saying we have a vaccine, ensuring it is delivered into the arms of those disproportionately vulnerable to covid infection and death, and that's black and brown people in this country. we're going to be looking closely to see what that looks like. >> and despite all of this terror that we have been living under and the disgust frankly that so many of us felt in the last four years about things that have been done in our name
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by this president, there's something extraordinary is going to happen, i would be remiss if i didn't ask you. you'll see the first black woman vice president, sworn in by sonia sotomayor, the first latina member of the supreme court, thurgood marshall's bible. there's so much significance to the moment that's coming. have you been able to take two seconds to reflect on that because there's so much work obviously you're in the midst of. i would love to get you to reflect on that a moment. >> yeah, it has actually been a struggle, i am determined to hold onto what is the historic nature of the moment and some of the joy of this moment, even as we face the challenges ahead. senator harris, former senator harris about to be the first black woman vice president, first vice president of south asian descent. she will be sworn in by justice sotomayor, using thurgood
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marshall's bible. this is the kind of thing that elevates us, helps us understand no matter what, we are moving forward, despite what we are facing. that's why today we launched a scholarship program for creation of a new cohort of civil rights attorneys based in the south because we, too, want to speak something positive into this moment. we know we have to litigate and advocate. it is not always pretty, and it is difficult and challenging. we also want to speak something positive into the future of who we are as black people. we want to be serious about power, equality, and are not going to turn back. it is mlk day. it is important. i am glad you brought up the historic nature of kamala harris' ascension to the vice presidency. we can't let that go, it is hard fought for, these wins. we have to acknowledge it and acknowledge the many people before, black women shirley chism and others that made this possible. we have to rest at least a
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moment in acknowledging the extraordinary nature of what we're about to see. >> absolutely. the heroic sherrilyn ifell. i am glad you're stealing a little joy from that day. send us the link to the scholarship info to post it on social. thank you very much. cheers. still ahead, will the republican party press ahead as the party of trump catering to extremists and misinformation? can the gop find its way back to reality or is it too late. stay with us. reality or is it too late. stay with us ♪ ♪ (quiet piano music) ♪ ♪ comfort in the extreme.
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when donald trump ceases to be president noon wednesday, the republican party whose dna includes open support for authoritarian tendencies disconnected from reality. what was once fringe is the modus op rend ee of the grand old party. with 40 hours left in his term, "new york times" and "the washington post" report that trump is pushing the big lie that he won the election and is not alone. new nbc poll shows three of every four republicans do not believe joe biden was legitimately elected president. another poll from "the washington post" and abc shows 56% think trump deserves zero blame for the insurrection. another 66% of republicans say
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trump acted responsibly, 51% of republicans say leaders didn't go far enough nullifying the election. ben sasse writes what happened january 6th was the blossoming of a rotten seed that took root in the republican party some time ago and has been nourished by treachery, poor political judgment, and cowardess. when trump leaves office, my party faces a choice, dedicate ourselves to defending the constitution or be a party of conspiracy theorists, and fantasy. desay that into a mirror? anyway, while donald trump remains wildly popular with everyday republicans, he is deeply unpopular with basically everybody else. according to gallup, only 34% of americans approve of the job he is doing, worst polls of his presidency. for more, joined by my pal, host
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of a show on sirius xm. glad you're here today, dean. you do what i used to do, i used to do talk radio. i remember talking to people who were real way out there. we would open the lines, let them call in. they were woo. and that was back in the old george w. bush regular republican days. how mad cap is it? i know you talk to the people. how thorough is the rot among regular republicans that just from what you're hearing on the radio? >> first of all, they're in congress now, joy. it is not like they are just calling me. look what you have. margery taylor green. she's typical gop. this delusion that somehow she's an outlier, she was anti-muslim, she called black lives matter a clan movement. just like trump and republicans have done.
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she plays white credence politics. she, not kidding, most discriminated group in america are white men. look, when they call the show, they parrot that. the most extreme of the party, the ones that call a progressive talk show. the minute you give them facts, doesn't matter. they tell me i am wrong or switch to another topic. that's what we're dealing with. there's no fact. people say why don't you tell them this. i have told them this, told them that. nothing changes. they're not going to change their mind. these are people that believe hillary ran a child sex ring at a pizza parlor. nothing can change it. that's the gop. >> the best part about the pizza parlor, they said it was in the basement, and the place doesn't have a basement. in case you don't think dean is overdoing it, put up a list of house republicans that support trump. this is just a list of some of them. that's just a few.
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we're putting up a list of house and senate republicans. there they are. regular order republicans who think all of these mad cap things. i want to take advantage of the other thing that you are that people may not realize, a great comedian, also, you're a lawyer. dean, when you have people saying i think, let me play it. cut three from producers. these are some capitol rioters. take a listen. >> i think cruz would want us to do this. i think we're good. >> i mean, these guys have a problem, right? if they mention hawley and cruz and they were pumping up the big lie that the election was stolen, do you think they face any potential criminal liability? does this increase trump's liability since they're in the same group, can these people benefit from blaming the members and throwing them under the bus
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legally? >> if joe biden made me the first muslim attorney general in the country's history, i would have prosecuted hawley and cruz. i think legally look, it adds a flavor to what's going on. someone inspired you to do something bad, does it make you legally responsible. it is not as straightforward as that. the language from trump's speech, people have to step back. language from the speak january 6th, someone has to do something about this, talking about joe biden winning. someone has to step up. there was no peaceful option. the only place to go was walk to the capitol and do something violent. there was no other reasonable interpretation. i think trump faces the greatest potential criminal liability for what went on. joy, can i say quickly, the nbc poll you pointed out to, 90% of republicans just about approve of trump's job handling now, now in the new poll after the
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insurrection, 138 members of the house came back after hiding on the ground, voted not to certify election results. when they had a chance, this is the gop. i wrote for msnbc that we're going into a world of fascism. i mean that academically. using violence to achieve political goals. we should all be alert to this. >> we absolutely should. if you were to run tomorrow for election, he would get the same number of votes. i don't think he lost more than a couple dozen voters from all that happened, even with nearly 400,000 nearly dead, the republican base doesn't care. this is who we're dealing with. you're great. thank you so much. be safe out there. next, on mlk day, a look back at a speech delivered by dr. king in 1967 that seems more relevant today. don't go anywhere. we'll be right back. don't go anywhere. we'll be right back. jeff's beenm of the ocean. the tops of mountains.
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so today, being mlk day, we have been subjected to the ritual of politicians, some who proved to be the enemies of voting rights for nonwhite americans, soberly quoting the i have a dream speech. the only king lines they know. hey, lindsey graham. they would do better to pay attention to the later king who painted a less rosy picture of america, a country that then as now was ridden with triple evils of racism, militarism, neglect of the poor. so much so that king's words are as relevant today as when he spoke at the national conference on new politics in chicago in 1967. >> the white backlash of today is rooted in the same problem that has characterized america ever since the black man landed
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in chains on the shores of this nation. this does not imply that all white americans are racist, far from it. many white people have through a deep moral compulsion fought long and hard for racial justice. nor does it mean america made no progress in our attempt to cure the body politic of the disease of racism, or that the dogma of racism hasn't been considerably modified in recent years. however, for the good of america, it is necessary to refute the idea that the dominant ideology in our country even today is freedom and equality, while racism is occasional departure of the norm on the part of a few bigoted extremists. racism can well be that
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corrosive evil that would bring down the curtain on western civilization, said that some 26 civilizations have risen upon the face of the earth. almost all of them have descended into the junk heaps of destruction, the decline and fall of these civilizations according to thornby was not caused by external invasions but by internal decay. they failed to respond creatively to the challenges upon them. if america does not respond creatively to the challenge to banish racism, some future historian will have to say that a great civilization died because it lacked the soul and commitment to make justice a reality for all men.
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>> with america reeling from the siege of the capitol, meant to try to overturn an election tip by the very voters, the very kinds of people that king fought for. the question was, what work do we still have to do, we'll discuss that with two expert voices next. before we break, take a look at the national mall in washington, d.c. which is lit up right now with what's called a field of flags, presented by the presidential inaugural committee. 56 pillars of light representing all 50 states in the u.s. territories in honor of americans unable to travel to washington for the inauguration. .
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over the weekend, senator-elect raphael warnock, who inherited the pulpit at dr. king's spiritual home in atlanta, one year ago today was welcoming kelly loeffler to the pulpit, months before she became his senate opponent and denounced the economic liberation and justice he inherited from dr. king, spoke to the work america still has to do. >> there is a sense in which the world is in flux. when that happens, there are always demagogues trying to scapegoat other people, stirring up the worst types of
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stereotypes and creating all kinds of division. age old racial and religious resentments, divisions that blur our vision. >> joining me, bishop william barber, co-chair of the people's campaign, and michael eric dyson, author of long time coming, reckoning with race in america. dr. dyson, i have to make you refer to the bishop. he ranks higher this instance. i will defer further, go first to the bishop. bishop barber, we have to defer. so bernice king had a tweet i thought was perfect because all of the republicans are out here, let me quote the 1963 march on washington speech. i have a dream. they all are quoting it. she said please don't act like everyone loved my father. he was assassinated. 1967 poll found he was one of the most hated in america.
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many that quote him now and evoke him to deter justice may already hate the authentic king. it annoys me that he is used. what are your thoughts? >> notice they never quote the agenda of march on washington, $2 minimum wage, $15 today, and complete and full civil rights act. we must be honest, can't deal with innocence. what we saw happen at the capitol two weeks ago is the result of a long history, many corporate leaders, republican politicians and religious nationalists have sewn politics of race driven class bathe division that was cynically named 50 some years ago positive polarization. they said richard nixon and others, we're going to do this deliberately to divide the country in half. what we know is the strategy of feeding and seething race class
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division into the body politics spilled into inevitable violence, idea of white supremacy, and dr. king told us every time there's a possibility for white, black and brown for people to come together, he says ar is tok chrissy does this. the same forces of reaction that killed dr. king erected gallon ohs on the mall and ransacked january 6th, same forces and mentality that burned our churches, destroyed our bodies. we have to understand it is hypocrisy to say you love the dream of dr. king, but you keep the dream for real locked up and only produce the nightmare of poverty, the nightmare of militarism and denying health care and nightmare of religious nationalism and false distorted morality of religious
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nationalism. >> indeed. and reverend, dr. dyson, wrote many books on dr. king. he was very explicit in wanting to have a minimum guaranteed income for people. just denouncing the vietnam war, breaking with lyndon johnson over it and demanding true equality. this was not a guy singing the happy america song at the end of his life, he was angry. talk a little about the king people don't want to talk about. >> right. absolutely right. in that speech you played at the beginning they had trouble with the microphone. dr. king said can y'all hear me. clearly 60 years later, still don't hear it. the inability to hear what dr. king was saying. he talked about the triplets of racism, inequality. these continue to plague the in addition with vicious particularity. dr. king was critical of the
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critical embrace of american exceptionalism. doctrine of exceptionalism that says we are better, morally superior, that we will police the nations of the world, make them bow down and subordinate to our own beliefs about american democracy when we couldn't practice them at home. the internal dimensions of contradiction that dr. king underlined, he said as a result of that i'm not going to simply speak out against the people who are here in my country who are committing violence. he talked about the young men and women engaged in, quote, rioting, which he said was the language of the unheard. but the bombs of vietnam explode back here at home. he tied together a global perspective and international awareness of violence in this country and indeed the world to what was going on here. and of course the hatred we saw unleash at the capitol, we know had black people been
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righteously protesting against the vicious limits imposed on us arbitrarily by a police state that continues to disrespect our bodies would have been arrested if not killed and shot as you yourself eloquently pointed out, but the white supremacist insurrectionists embracing evangelical piety, you say white evangelical, they're more white than evangelical. white evangelicals in the 1800s prayed to god to help give them imagination how to block black people from voting. that's what they did then. that's what they're doing now. the shenanigans, the mistreatment to which black people are subjected by white brothers and sisters who call themselves christians means many of us, dr. king said i wonder who your god is, who you pray to at night that allows you to go out into the area, lynch a black person, come back and say benediction. that's what king spoke out
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against continually and would so today. >> bishop barber, in this case if the president-elect, joe biden, came to you and said layout a king-ian agenda, what would you put on the agenda? >> we have, we met with the domestic policy team, even before president-elect was president-elect, and laid out a 14 point agenda and started with the basic moral premise. isaiah 58 tells us the only way to heal a nation is repairing the breach. our own constitution says you have to establish justice if you want to ensure domestic tranquility. what we said is it has to be real and has to be five areas to focus on and then we gave specific policies. one, deal with systemic racism. we can't accept systemic racism, violence in policy, voter suppression, violence against our bodies. we also can't accept poverty and low wealth.
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105 million poor people in the country. can't accept that. we have to have health care and all those things and many more in order to have a true healing of the breach. >> hopefully they are listening. thank you both very much. be safe. before we go, i want to say a few words about the passing of somebody named pinky modest. she's on the left in the photos. you may not know her name. if you're glad joe biden and raphael warnock, jon ossoff flipped georgia, you owe her a debt of gratitude. she's one of the volunteers that worked to empower black voters that delivered georgia for joe biden and the democrats. and unfortunately she died this week from covid-19 which donald trump never tried to control, which is out of control in her state of georgia. she devoted the final years of
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her life to becoming a mission of securing the rights of all people. she succeeded. rest in power. happy mlk day to all. be safe, where a mask. all in with chris hayes starts now. two days to inauguration. new investigations, new arrests, new questions about safety. tonight former obama chief of staff on america's first nonpeaceful transfer of power, and chaos joe biden is inheriting. then, congressman jamal bowman on his plan to fix failures of the siege. on the birthday of martin luther king jr., one last attempt to rewrite history from the white house. "all in" starts right now.
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