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in modern history, with more than 20,000 national guard troops in and around the capitol grounds. as president-elect biden confronts an unprecedented series of crises on day one, the administration will have a powerful partner, the woman presiding over it all, madam speaker nancy pelosi. after leading the house in a second impeachment of donald trump, this time for inciting the deadly insurrection, the speaker now confronts the task of overseeing the ongoing investigation and ushering in a new political era of unified democratic control of government in washington for the first time in a decade. she's certainly up to the challenge. while battling donald trump, speaker pelosi has kept her ideologically diverse caucus together. her leadership was forged by some of the most contentious political battles in recent history. her first history-making turn as speaker came on a wave of voter anger over the lies and mismanagement of the iraq war, which swept democrats into power
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in 2006. and then in 2010, tea party agitators inflamed by the election of the country's first black president and by democrats deigning to expand health care swarmed capitol grounds, threatening lawmakers with chants of kill the bill and worse. speaker pelosi led members of her caucus in a march to the capitol for a vote on the historic bill that would eventually become the affordable care act. she marched alongside the late, great congressman john lewis after the civil rights icon endured booing and spitting and shouts of the "n"-word a day before. the same racial resentment that fueled the crowds then was later exploited by donald trump's own racism and lies. he fanned the flames of white supremacy and anti-democratic fervor leading to the siege that took place here. and i'm joined now by the speaker herself, nancy pelosi. madam speaker, i want to thank you for welcoming us to the capitol.
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>> well, it's my pleasure to do so. i wish it were under other circumstances. because of covid we have to keep our distance. because of security we have our limitations. but in any event, it is the temple of democracy, and it's my honor to welcome you as speaker. >> thank you. and it is such a grand place that, you know, the -- it really sort of does give a different context to be here in this space given what's happened in the last couple of weeks. i do really appreciate you having us here. and so, tomorrow at noon the trump presidency will end and a new era will begin. >> at 11:59. i guess it is 12:00 noon, okay. >> not that you're counting. what does that mean? what does that mean for this country? >> well, i welcome you to the capitol just two weeks after the current president of the united states incited an insurrection against our democracy.
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and again, this temple of democracy is something so harmful and heal -- it's hard to heal from, but we must. so what tomorrow means is that joe biden will be president of the united states. we look forward in a very optimistic way. your question about what does it mean that the current president no longer will be there, well, it will mean a complete breath of fresh air for democracy, for america, for our future. >> yeah, and how do we get back? i mean, there is something so grand about the idea of the temple of democracy. the united states for so many immigrants, people who come here, including my parents, there's such a grand meaning to it all. and so i think you think about what happened in the last couple of weeks and it feels like something is broken there. >> it's so sad.
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when you think of what this is a symbol to the world, a symbol of democracy, "a," and then for immigrants you think about the statue of liberty must have tears in her eyes, this beacon of hope to the world. so, it -- and how he has treated newcomers to our country and really people who came a long time ago as immigrants and had their contribution denigrated by him. but anyway, let's not think about him. let's just think about what the future will hold. we must hold him accountable because no one is above the law, and this president engaged in incitement of insurrection. that's why we impeached him, and that's why he will go on trial. so we must hold him accountable. but let's think in a brighter way about what the future can hold as we reach out and respect each other to unify our country.
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nobody better at that than joe biden. >> well, you know, you talk about a breath of fresh air. tomorrow, you as our first woman speaker, will be there as the first woman vice president, the first black, first asian-american vice president is sworn in by the first latina member of the united states supreme court. talk about turning the page. can you just put that in context for us, especially from your very, very unique position as speaker of the house. >> and it's hard to talk about it without getting emotional, but it is pretty exciting. first woman, first african-american, first asian-american sworn in by the first latina member of the supreme court. all of it under the leadership of joe biden, a person who recognizes the beauty of -- the beautiful diversity of america. it is something that i hope people will appreciate, that children will see the prospects
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for themselves in all of that. and not only are they the first, the first, the first, but they're great. they happen to be latina, asian, african-american, a woman, but they're the best. so that is what is pretty exciting also to see. for my capacity as first woman speaker, i always thought we'd have a woman president before we ever had a woman speaker because this institution is a very male-dominated for hundreds of years place. and i thought the public was way ahead of us. but unfortunately it did not turn out that way much to our dismay for our country -- yet. but nonetheless, vice president, pretty excited. >> yeah, you have seen so much of that history take place. obviously the first black president you were a great ally of, particularly on things like health care. but i came to that inauguration in 2008 and i had never seen so much security. and thank god, right? because we're all thinking, you know, all of us,
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african-americans were holding our breath watching this man take the oath of office and thinking just of the fear that a lot of people had for him. this security that we're seeing now tops that tenfold. i've never seen this much security, the amount of the 20,000 national guard troops -- thank god for them -- that are out there. this is unprecedented. and for the threat to have come from within, some of the people who serve in this great building having been sympathizers to that insurrection, how do you then go forward in a congress that includes people who, you know, some of their democratic members have said they're afraid of them. there are people who said, i don't know. people said they were afraid of their own colleagues because they see them as having been on the other side. >> first, let's go back to barack obama being sworn in as president. i'll never forget while he was making his beautiful inaugural address, i just kept thinking of his mother and his grandparents and his family and how proud
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they and we all were of him. and then to contrast it four years later to one of the most disgusting speeches ever under any auspices by a president for inauguration, a very, very dark day. so here we are now because of the instigation of that president, that dark president, we have security beyond any history or just anybody ever thought would be the need. and why? because this president has been telling people that the election was not legitimate, and these people believe him. they believe a president. they believe a president. presidents' words are important. they weigh a ton. and if you're donald trump talking to these people, they believe it. and they used his words to come here. so when we talk about did our -- any of our colleagues collaborate? well, that remains to be seen.
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we have to get the evidence of that. and if they did, they would be accessories to the crime. and the crime, in some cases, was murder. >> yeah. >> and this president is an accessory to that crime because he instigated that insurrection that caused those deaths and this destruction. so, again, we'll have to see what the evidence is. and if they -- if that's the case, it's not a question of whether we're comfortable serving with them. it's about their prosecution as people who are accessories to the crime. but let's see. we have other concerns with them. they want to bring guns on the floor. the disrespect that they have for the institution of congress is -- is so palpable. i mean, you can see it all the time. they don't think any rules apply to them. but that's another order of business. one is prosecution. if they wittingly or unwittingly contributed to the -- aided and abetted the other -- how they
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obey the rules of the house and how we keep people safe who are serving here. >> and, you know, 139 of them supported the big lie, which also fueled what we saw take place here a couple of weeks ago. and i wonder if you look at some of those members who were the chief instigators of that big lie, do you think that people should be expelled from this body who were some of the lead instigators of what we saw happen a couple of weeks ago? should they just be expelled? >> let me just say on that score, these people were totally lying. they don't know or they don't care to know what the truth and the facts were and that the number of them that voted to support these objections, really their judgment is seriously impaired and will be recognized as such. so, i don't know what their future is here in terms of anybody respecting their judgment. but i will say that it's up to
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their people -- their own constituents to determine who serves here. there should be a price for them to pay. and i hope that, having said that, that the members of congress -- the republican members of congress -- would say to donald trump, stop the violence. concede the election. tell people that you, you know -- back off your lies about the election being stolen because you are instigating violence now even more so after the sad lesson of january 6th. >> and we know one of the things that happened when those insurgents, capitol rioters, whatever we're calling them today, you know -- >> terrorists. they're terrorists. >> more accurate, absolutely. >> okay. >> and one of the things that they did was they stole your laptop. they stole many things from inside this building. are you concerned that there was anything on that laptop that we're now hearing that the
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person wanted to sell to the russians? are you concerned about what might have been taken and may be being sold to a hostile foreign power? >> i'm not concerned about that particular laptop, but that doesn't matter. it could be any laptop. any time a member -- a constituent writes to a member of congress, it is confidential. that is personal, what that person is conveying their own concern, their situation, whether it relates to social security or immigration, whatever the issue is, it's a secret. it's confidential. so for them to take that is a violation not only of my office but of my connection to my constituents. that happened to be one that we use for zooms and stuff like that, i think. i don't know what other information could be on there, but that person doesn't know and they would jeopardize all kinds of information.
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now, let me just say this. they broke the speaker -- the big mirror in the speaker's office. they violated our desks and blah, blah. that's unfortunate. what is sad though is how they traumatized staff. staff on capitol hill are largely young. they come here idealistic, whatever their point of view. they come here. and to see the trauma that they experienced by these people banging on doors trying to get to them -- they came for people. understand, they had fun with the stuff. and i'm not a big stuff person, although i do respect the institution and the accoutrements of our country. more important than that is they harmed people physically traumatically as well. and this president instigated it all. >> and this president will throw himself a military style festivity.
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he's not going to greet the incoming president, which may be appropriate since he tried to undo the election. but we now have for the first time in our history something other than a peaceful transfer of power. >> that's right. >> what does that mean for us writ large? >> well, i do think that we're bigger than all of this. donald trump was a stain on our country. i don't think we could have sustained our democracy if he had two terms in office for what he was doing to our institutions or what he was doing to our constitution. he dishonored it. what he did to our people, he denigrated people. newcomers to our country. he degraded our people, denigrated our environment from sea to shining sea, god's gift to us and beyond that. he degraded that. and he, again, dishonored our values of who we are as a democratic country.
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so, he in every respect was unworthy to be president, did not respect the office that he held and certainly did not respect the office that the rest of us hold as well. i respect the office of the presidency, of the president, more than he did for how he mistreated it. so, in any event, he's gone. we have to let -- we have to -- how can i say it? it's not lessons learned because it was so evident all along what a disgrace he was. but to find out how we can bring people together, that's our responsibility. and, again, nobody better than joe biden and kamala harris to do that. >> it's a big job. we're going to take a quick commercial break. we will continue. we're going to fit in after that break. up next donald trump is the first president to be impeached not once, but twice. more with the woman responsible for giving him that dubious distinction.
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about impeachment. it hangs over really everything that's happening, even what's happening tomorrow. when will you send the articles of impeachment to the united states senate? >> we'll send it when we're ready, and it will be soon. it is our managers -- and i'm very proud of them led by lead manager jamie raskin, but beautiful diverse members of our caucus, lawyers, et cetera, they're preparing the case for the trial. the -- i'm so proud of our members. this happened on january 6th, as you know. actually, the opposition to the election fed into the next morning until 4:00 in the morning. one week later, january 13th, we passed the article of impeachment. our members were just -- they understood their responsibility.
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ted lieu, jamie raskin, and david cicilline, david took the lead. they were writing it practically when we were under assault. members embraced it. has its simplicity, the president of the united states of the incited insurrection against our country. and it passed in a bipartisan way in the house. now we prepare for the trial. >> and is there a strategy behind holding it back? are you thinking about sort of timing it with the biden cabinet nominations getting through with things that he wants to get done? is there a strategy behind holding it back? >> well, it's not a question of holding it back. the senate is not in session. so we couldn't even send it until -- well, now they are. today they're in session. but up until then, they could not receive the article. so now we have our options open us. they'll tell us what the rules are for us to proceed.
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the leader -- majority leader schumer and mitch mcconnell, minority leader, will have their discussion and then will proceed from there. but it's about -- again, this doesn't take a lot because everybody saw what the president did. he incited by his words. his call to action was for something that was imminent. go right down there. it was inciteful. it was imminent and it happened. >> yeah. >> right there in that -- now, there's so much else that was a pattern of behavior, but right then and there in that period of time, he called for the -- he incited, he directed, they went and acted. >> yeah, liz cheney, representative cheney said exactly that. are you more surprised -- >> wasn't she wonderful to do that? that took real courage. >> it did indeed.
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>> real courage. >> are you more surprised that ten republicans voted for impeachment or that so many voted against it? >> i'm never surprised around here. that's just a word that doesn't work for me. but i'm very pleased that ten did vote with us because it did take real courage on their part to do so. they say -- i don't know -- they say more would have but they feared for their families and their safety if they were to go down that path. i don't know. but nonetheless, they have placed themselves in a category of saying the president is above the law. we saw with our own eyes that he incited insurrection in our country and yet we will not hold him accountable. they'll have to answer to that too. >> that would include your counterpart, the house minority leader who has been on the other side of this entire question. even though his own members were put in as much risk as your caucus was. how do you work going forward with someone like him given
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where he's placed himself and which side of history he's decided to be on? >> i always quote abraham lincoln. i have his painting in my office, the speaker's office. he said public sentiment is everything. with it, you can accomplish almost anything, without it, practically nothing. i think our message of unity has to go out to the american people so that they see what is in their interest and that hopefully will create some bipartisanship, which we have a responsibility to reach out. we must find our common ground. if we can't, we must stand our ground like a rock. that's what thomas jefferson said, like a rock. but nonetheless, i do believe that there's some areas, infrastructure is something that has for the most part not been a partisan issue here, creating good paying jobs right away for the american people. the covid -- we have to crush the virus.
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we have to put money in the pockets of the american people. we have to honor our heroes. i would hope there would be bipartisanship for that. >> here's one that probably won't be bipartisan. a lot of americans don't necessarily trust the senate republicans to hold the president accountable. in theory, there could be a crimes commission, a 9/11-style commission. >> yeah. >> do you think that there should be something like that so that we can have truth and reconciliation? and should it have subpoena power? >> definitely, absolutely. i myself introduced the 9/11 commission resolution a long time ago. i lost. they wouldn't -- republicans wouldn't vote for it. then the families of 9/11 rose up. and so tim roemer, my colleague on the intelligence committee, he introduced it. that bill passed but it was resisted at first. we have to have truth.
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truth and trust. then we can govern. people have to have trust. so we have to have that. and we will. i -- in the meantime, i've asked general russell honore to take a look at how we can improve things in the short term, the infrastructure of the security here, interagency relations, all those kind of issues that protect the congress, our democracy, and our visitors, our press who come, everyone who interacts with our democracy. but we must have that commission. and that will take a bipartisan legislation to pass house and senate signed by the president. >> we're going to talk a lot more about that agenda. we're going to take another quick break. we'll be back with much more with speaker pelosi. up next, democrats will control
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and we are back with speaker nancy pelosi. madam speaker, i want to read a quick quote from former president barack obama wrote about you in his new autobiography. he wrote, politicians, usually men, underestimated nancy at their own peril. the italian-american daughter of baltimore's mayor tutored in the ways of ethnic ward bosses and longshoremen unafraid to play hardball politics in the name of getting things done. she didn't care that republicans made her their favorite foil, nor was she fazed by the occasional grousing from democratic colleagues. the fact was nobody was tougher or a more skilled legislative strategist than you. so that's high praise for your political skills. let's talk about where you plan to use those now.
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what are some of your priorities in your view that you share with the biden administration or maybe even that maybe different that he might want to know about? >> when people ask me what are the three most important issues facing the congress, i've always said the same thing, our children, our children, our children. their health, their education, the economic security of their families, a healthy, safe environment which they can thrive, world peace in which they can reach their fulfillment. it's always for me about the children. so, i've said -- and people laugh when i say it. but i always say to candidates, and especially women candidates, when you come into this arena, you're in the arena. you're going to have to be able to take a punch. you have to be able to throw a punch for the children. for the children. so that's kind of my motivation. and what's sad for me is when people on the other side of the aisle just, you know, they have children. they care about children, i
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guess. but they never see the relationship between public policy and a better future for our children. so, again, that's my why. i always say to people, what is your why? why are you doing this? why i'm doing it -- i have five children. my husband and i, paul and i, we had five children. and it bothers me as a mom that 1 in 5 children in america lives in poverty, goes to sleep hungry at night. that's my why. and that's what my fight is about. whatever -- however barack obama described it, it is about the children. >> well, and the -- you know, the legislative top priority agenda for president obama of course was health care, which as you said was about making sure that children can thrive, making sure their parents and they can have a decent life not worrying about health care. but now we have the biggest health care catastrophe since the so-called spanish flu during the woodrow wilson era.
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the covid virus is forcing children to have to learn at home, some of whom do not have wi-fi and the ability to do it. it's forcing parents into poverty, forcing people into homelessness. it is such a catastrophe. getting our arms around it, how can the congress lead? now that democrats do have control of all -- you know, both houses as well as the white house, what can we do to get out of this mess? >> well, we must crush the virus. and when you think back a year when it first reared its head and the president -- then-president was calling it a hoax and a delay, denial, distortion of what it was. now this week 400,000 people will have died from that. many of them people of color. the injustice of it all. and that's why in all of our legislation, barbara lee, karen bass, our members had very strong language to address the fact that, again, testing,
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tracing, treatment, now the vaccines and the rest have to be equitably distributed so that we address that injustice. because if you're a child who -- for a while, if you were african-american you are five times more likely to go to hospital as a child with covid than a white child. if you're a hispanic child, eight times more likely to go to the hospital. this is absolutely unacceptable but yet they would just erase all that disparity language from any legislation. so now when we do this, it's about everybody, everybody. but we do have to recognize certain communities are more negatively affected than others. because none of us is safe unless all of us is safe. even if compassion is not in your heart, pragmatically understand that everybody must be protected. >> and what happened on january 6th has raised, i think, america's alarms about a lot of
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things. one of them police reform. just thinking about, "a," the fact that you did have capitol police who did not have the backup to do what they needed to do and some of whom were overwhelmed or they were overwhelmed. but you also have off-duty police officers who were part of that riotous, as you said, domestic terrorist action. you have police reform that feels really urgent. then you have voting reform, voting rights. >> that's right. >> the john lewis voting rights bill, i know, is something that's out there. this is something he fought for. and the trigger for that unprecedented insurrection against the united states was that predominantly black cities, places like fulton county, places like detroit, michigan, tipped the balance for joe biden and people's refusal to accept an election in which people of color tipped the balance for joe biden. that triggered what we saw.
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can there be, will there be meaningful police reform legislation and voting rights legislation? >> you have it exactly right. >> yeah. >> the fact is that everything this president for the moment is talking about in terms of the election not being -- stolen. he's talking race. he's talking about people in cities. he's talking about blue states. and it's a dog whistle. his people hear it the way he is saying it. what is he saying? he's saying that only white people should vote in our country? and those are the votes that should count? the -- we have hr1, our legislation, and hr4, which is the voting rights act. we would hope we could pass -- senate, one, i believe in the senate -- for our cleaner government initiatives that clear the way. i mean, the fact that they would
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not vote for a voting rights act is so beyond the pale. when we passed it before, it was overwhelming. i think unanimous in the senate. only a few people voted against it in the house. and george bush -- george w. bush signed it with great pride in 2006, the bill for 2007. so it was bipartisan in every way. now not. as far as police reform is concerned, our george floyd justice and policing act is something that we hope would be able to not only pass the house again but also pass the senate. it is calibrated to get the job done. it is fair. it is respectful. karen bass did a beautiful job putting it together, working with cory booker and kamala harris in the senate but with our congressional black caucus over here. so we think it's the appropriate
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calibration and has to happen. when the bill was brought up on the judiciary committee, the family came. george floyd's family came. and they asked me -- i greeted them, and they said, madam speaker, will you name the bill for our brother because his daughter needs to know. and i said, i will only name it for george floyd if you think it is worthy of his name. and they did. and we're proud of it. and we hope that it will go. george floyd, breonna taylor, say her name. we carry these people in our hearts. it's so heartbreaking. again, there are many police officers -- people in blue who do their jobs very well, but they have to recognize that the status quo cannot continue in this way. it's a double whammy. they're saying, look, look, millions of people turned out
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peacefully week-in and week-out around the country, around the world, and republicans ignored it, wouldn't pass the bill. little children were killed in kindergarten and first grade. republicans ignored it. kids in high school shot in their high school. republicans ignored it. pulse, las vegas, mother emanuel church. we just can't -- we can't, cannot ignore. so for public sentiment to weigh in, people have to know. and joe biden and kamala harris as president and vice president have the bully pulpit beyond the house and senate back and forth. and i feel very optimistic about the difference that it could make in terms of how we respect people, their vote, their safety, justice. >> we're going to take another -- >> this is what it's all about, justice, justice, justice, justice in health care, justice in policing, justice in environmental justice, justice in the economy.
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it's all about justice actually. martin luther king, he said peace is not just the absence of dissension. it is the presence of justice. >> we're going to take another very quick break. we'll have much more with madam speaker, nancy pelosi. stay right there.
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madam speaker, we just celebrated martin luther king jr. day at a very difficult time in this country. and his pastor, the pastor of the -- the pastor of the church where he presided will be a united states senator. the state that he called home was a pivotal state in terms of giving democrats control of the united states senate. and looming over it all in so many ways is the spirit of john lewis, his great lieutenant, his grand lieutenant and civil
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rights hero. i want to say i wish he was here to view this moment, but in so many ways he is. and i want to give you an opportunity. in the break you were talking a bit about him. what do you think it means to have john lewis' state, dr. king's state, the state of georgia, be the one that changed america in so many ways? >> it really did. i'm a believer so i believe john was very instrumental in all of this. he had his values we all admired. he had political astuteness too. and he knew -- he knew how to win. so -- but when john was leaving us, i went to see him over fourth of july, and i brought him this pin that says "one country, one destiny." i brought him that and his family wanted me to write out the note so they had it for the record and stuff.
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and this statement, one country, one destiny is what was embroidered into abraham lincoln's coat that he had on the night he was killed. one country, one destiny. john lewis, abraham lincoln. and so it wasn't a couple of weeks later that john lewis was lying on the one that was built for abraham lincoln when he left us. so, their connection. and they were so connected in terms of respecting the dignity and spark of divinity about every person. so, it is -- it is -- we feel he went there, joined elijah cummings and the rest and they're dancing with the angels to prove what they did to protect our democracy. >> and you mentioned elijah cummings, who is one of my favorites, i will admit, in this
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body. you are a baltimore girl. your dad served in this body in the house of representatives as well as being a mayor. i do wonder what you would have thought of -- is this where you thought you would be at this place in history, at this position you were in when you were a little girl in baltimore, is this where you thought you would be? >> no, i never, ever thought of it, and i was not -- we were taught that we had responsibility to other people and that you had to -- we were -- i was born into a family, very catholic, deeply religious, fiercely patriotic, loving america, proud of our town and american heritage, staunchly democratic. we saw all of that going together. and that we had responsibilities to other people. that was our faith. that was our party. but i never -- i never -- i was very shy actually. so it was never -- my brother
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became mayor. he is the most wonderful. he was the most wonderful, kind person i ever knew in politics or otherwise. but i was never in -- i was a '50s teenager rocking around the clock, elvis, the whole thing. i was into normal. but we all -- there wasn't an election that happened that we didn't participate in in a very strong way because it was -- it wasn't -- and that was a long time ago. it wasn't about the environment. it wasn't about women's rights to choose. it wasn't about these things. it was about whose side are you on in term of america's working families? and we would hope that we could join -- everybody could join together. but the fact is that there's a difference as to who we're there to protect and we saw that as the democratic party.
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>> history has a certain poetry. your dad served in this congress during world war ii. and you talked about your catholic faith. we'll now have our second catholic president, only two, joe biden will be the second one. it will be quite a day tomorrow. we'll take one more quick break. and we will be back in a moment with more from speaker nancy pelosi, inside this majestic building which was the site of an attempted insurrection, that was just two weeks ago. don't go away. for every trip you've been dreaming of, expedia has millions of flexible booking options. because the best trip is wherever we go together.
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it's something for me emotionally to be in this building knowing what happened here. for you, is there something about it that it feels different after what happened? >> a difference in resolve, that it is vulnerable, which we never thought. >> yeah. >> and that we have to lift up
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its protection. this building had not been invaded except by the british in the war of 1812, and now by the instigation of the president of the united states for insurrection on to the capitol. that's what makes it so tragic. physical things don't mean as much to me. they're symbols. but the impact on democracy, the impact on the people who work here, it's almost unforgivable. >> we spoke a little bit about the maintenance staff, who are largely black and brown folks who then had to come in after all of this and clean up after it. it's so disrespectful to these people, but also to this, to this grand place. >> well, the injustice of it all, but i have to salute the
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custodial staff. every single day, they make this the place it is for us to do our work, for visitors to come, for press to cover, for staff to serve. and they do it quietly, invisibly, until this mob of terrorists incited by the president of the united states vandalized this building. the custodial staff rose to the occasion, they restored it all without complaint. but there is an injustice, that these terrorist slobs would come in and desecrate this place, and the good people had to clean up their mess. just the injustice makes me very
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angry. >> we're standing in statuary hall, it's unbelievable that people would have disrespect for the building, but also for you and the staff that serves. i don't know if you've seen the video in which you can hear people screaming your name, where is nancy, looking for you, hunting you. >> yeah. >> i don't even know how i would react to that. how do you react to how personal it was toward you? >> i was more thinking about my staff and my colleagues who don't have the protection that i have. but also think of this. this is statuary hall. this used to be the chamber of the house. abraham lincoln's desk is there, that's mr. clyburn's office, one of his offices. lincoln served here. in the chamber that they were trying to bombard is where the
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abolition of slavery took place. war was declared to protect our freedom. history was made. giants of america served with whom we're all colleagues. but they and some of our friends in the congress had no respect for that, in fact, they were here to destroy that. >> if you had a message for the outgoing president, if you were to leave him a note, what would you say? >> the first thing i would say is accept the results of the election, concede to the president, joe biden, and call off the terrorists that you have unleashed. that's what i would say to him today for tomorrow, so he does not jeopardize the safety of anyone tomorrow. because whatever the motivation
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of some of these people, they still believe this president when he says the election was not legitimate. so if i had to leave him a note, it would be very short. man up. concede the election. that's it. nothing more. >> so there will be no note apparently left for joe biden. and perhaps again for the best, maybe. if you were to leave the incoming president a note, in the tradition that normally would be left for the outgoing president, what would it say? >> it would say, be yourself. be yourself. be your wonderful, authentic, caring joe biden. bringing your vision, your knowledge, and judgment, your strategic thinking, your connection to the american people, to the fore. be yourself, joe.
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>> madam speaker, thank you so much for inviting us to be here. it's always an honor to be here and to speak with you. best of luck. it's going to be a challenge. >> thank you once again to madam speaker, nancy pelosi. and thank you for watching. good night. speaker pelosi, and think you for watching. good night. >> welcome, everybody, i'm katy tur, it's midnight here on the east coast, joining us now is former u.s. attorney joyce vance, 25 years as federal prosecutor, and michael schmitt, pulitzer prize winner for the "new york times" and many others, including peter barrack. we're going to get a lot of names here, some more controversial than others. while you're watching, what red flags are you going to see? not just routine pardons but people who are defying the

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