there is breaking news tonight on the second impeachment trial of the former u.s. president on charges of inciting insurrection against his own country. until the past hour senator majority leader chuck schumer the florida man's trial will begin the week of february 8th, just over a month after maga

rioters stormed the u.s. capitol to try to install the defeated president in power by force. now, in a moment, i'll be speaking with one of the democrats that will prosecute the case, but there's also big news tonight from the new administration, facing a mounting economic crisis, president biden continued to push forward with an agenda 72 hours into his administration, with more than 10 million americans out of work and 50 million people, including 17 million children facing food insecurity, the president issued an impassioned plea for the passage of his $1.9 trillion covid relief plan. >> the virus is surging. we're 400,000 dead, expected to reach well over 600,000. families are going hungry. people are at risk of being evicted. job losses are mounting again. we need to act. no matter how you look at it, we need to act.

if, if we act now, our economy will be stronger in both the short and long run. the bottom line is this, we're in a national emergency. we need to act like we're in a national emergency. so we've got to move. with everything we've got, we've got to do it together. >> president biden also signed to new executive orders, one will seek to increase supplemental nutrition assistance program benefits, aka s.n.a.p., for nearly 12 million families, and the other would set a $15 an hour minimum wage for employees of all federal contractors and provide emergency paid leave. meanwhile, the senate confirmed lloyd austin to serve as the country's first ever african-american secretary of defense. republicans who spent the past four years cheering on the previous president's executive actions, including muslim bans and extraneous wall building and his legislative inaction, have

without irony called biden's rescue package a nonstarter. since wednesday, biden has signed roughly 30 executive orders, actions and memorandums aiming at addressing the pandemic, inequality, and the economy. many target both urban and rural communities and workers across the country, huge break from his immediate predecessor who seemed to care about his base. the white house that passed little more than tax cuts for super rich are complaining that biden is doing too much too fast without their say. take for example, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell who's kicking his feet and throwing a fit over the senate filibuster demanding that majority leader chuck schumer whose caucus represents a larger swath of the american electorate than republicans do promised to maintain the 60 vote threshold on most legislation. the guy who made it his number one priority to block president

obama's to use the filibuster at levels only of civil rights legislation during the 1950s and 1960s, wants to make sure he can rinse and repeat with biden. and while my way mitch is busy trying to set the terms of president biden's legislative agenda, the rest of the republican party is engaged in a flurry of fake outrage over unity and procedure. >> he knows the agenda, and those executive orders he's signing partisan, that's dividing. >> president biden in one sentence would say that he wants unity, and then in another attacks an agenda and a list of policies that actually helped our country. >> the end of the travel ban on countries like syria, not because we can all of a sudden vet syrians coming into this country, and make sure they're not a threat, or make sure they don't carry the coronavirus, but the democrats want to signal their virtue that they're going to reverse everything donald

trump did regardless of its impact on the american people. >> sorry, since when do they care about the coronavirus? anyway, one thing is clear, while a bankrupt real estate crook is no longer in charge of the republican party, his seen phobic, islam phobic ideology remains the bedrock of the not so grand party. what the former president believed, and i mean the worst stuff, that is what they believe in too. joining me now is david plouf, former senior adviser to president obama. and editorial page editor for the boston global, and david jolly former republican congressman from florida who's no longer affiliated with the party. there's been conceit among people who analyze voters and republican legislatures, they went along with trump because they wanted tax cuts and judges but they didn't believe in the stuff, the sort of yucky stuff that he wanted too, and david jolly, i have to go to you on this. it's clear that they did believe

in the yucky stuff, the stuff that they pretended that they didn't really care about is what they care about. donald trump's campaign promises, this is what he said he was going too old. he told his base he was going to repeal obamacare didn't do that. invest in infrastructure, never did ha. bring back manufacturing no. build the economy, no. build a wall, make mexico pay for it. fewer people are unemployed, 3 million than when he started. the deficit is $3 trillion higher, they don't care about the debt, and the debt is 27.7, up by 7.8 trillion. i submit to you, the only thing i can tell the republicans actually really believe in is banning muslims, mistreating brown immigrants and keeping them out of the country, and other stuff that's the bad stuff. >> those are the policies of donald trump and the policies of today's republican party, joy, and this goes back to the falls narrative that donald trump hijacked the republican party,

he didn't. he walked through the front doors to the open embrace of pa party who was looking for his leadership. it's why they elevated him, celebrated him, protected him, and this resistance you're seeing right now, it's interesting. it does reveal convictions that are there among the republican party when they push back on some of these biden initiatives, which many of them happen anytime the party switches in the white house. there are certain things that can be done by executive order that can automatically swing back the other way. following donald trump, there was a lot that any democratic president would have undone. this is not a matter of unity. this is a matter of policy, and if republicans want to ensure that chuck schumer obliterates the filibuster for legislation, keep up this type of behavior. to allow them to pass biden's

agenda. >> the unprecedented crisis we're seeing here, previous presidents have come in, lincoln with the civil war, and a giant pandemic, barack obama came into the great recession, fdr, the great recession. you had previous presidents facing catastrophes, biden is facing them all at once, and normally when you have a catastrophe at that level, you throw money at it because you have to throw money at it. it's not usually a partisan thing, except that it is a partisan thing. i wonder if this might be the moment where, sort of working class people wake up and see that the republican party doesn't care about them. >> there's a kind of american amnesia that mitch mcconnell is relying on right now because remember, the one part of the republican agenda that trump really did achieve, nothing in terms of reversing obama care, so on and so forth, was the trump tax cut of 2017, which there's a beautiful irony to the number of $1.9 trillion, which is the cost of the covid relief bill that biden wants to pass.

it's the figure that the congressional budget office estimates that the trump tax cut of 2017, will contribute over ten years to the deficit. this is a red herring to suddenly talk about fiscal discipline at this moment. particularly because now we're in an economic crisis, and most reasonable credible economists in this country believe this is the time when you spend to bring the economy back, even if that's the argument, even if that's the level in which you're making this argument. importantly, i think joe biden is also exercising a kind of moral leadership here when he talks about people being able to put food on their tables, being able to pay the rent, clarifying that unemployment benefits should be used by people who are quitting their jobs because they have fear about unsafe working conditions. that's something that hasn't been clear during the trump administration, and congressional democrats are asking for that clarification so people aren't choosing between their health and paying the rent, choosing between their health and putting food on the table. that's part of the executive action he's taking as well as

what he's proposing on the hill. what we have to realize is republicans can't get behind measure that would add to their tax cuts for the upper crust of american society, to help americans while the economy is in free fall. they don't deserve to be in public service. i hope republicans will get behind the hill as we we see in coming days. >> associate the thoughts with bernie sanders, technically democrats could do what republicans did with the tax cut, use reconciliation and pass what they want. they don't have to go and try to seek unity as long as, you know, the gentleman from west virginia doesn't bail on them. they could theoretically say make republicans vote on this. do you want americans to get in cash benefit, yes or no, or use reconciliation, do you think they should break this bill up and say yes or no to each piece of it or just jam the bill through the way the republicans would?

>> first of all, joy, i agree with david jolly which is the first 72 hours of the biden presidency i think is setting the table for biden and democrats in congress to say we tried to work with the republicans, but if we so much suggested anything donald trump did was wrong, it's disunity, number one. number two, i do think the political messaging here is not complicated. if you can't win a political message argument that says a lot of these republicans spent almost $2 trillion on a tax cut for the very wealthy. but they won't spend the same to help small businesses and workers and farmers and kids in need in poverty, like you ought to get out of politics, and third, i think, listen, i have seen this up close on the hill and in the white house. whiff worked there. so -- when i have worked there. so much is democrats being weak and caving. my view is given the historical nature of what joe biden has inherited he has no option,

everything he thinks is necessary to beat the pandemic and strengthen the economy. he'll go out of his way, as you know joe biden will, to work with republicans, to listen to their ideas. at the end of the day, you've got to use reconciliation because otherwise the country is going to be so very weakened and we have an opportunity and the clock is ticking right now. >> and dean and david jolly, you were name checked here. you have a situation where the incentive structure on the republican side is built by sean hannity who has declared the first week of the biden administration a failure. it hasn't been a week. it's 72 hours. the incentive structure is to keep looking at fox and over fox's shoulder at oan and news max. worried about that rather than the american people. i don't know how long this incentive structure remains successful with voters. as biden said, there are republican people that are hungry right now, too. >> yeah, joy, here is what's driving sean hannity and the republicans absolutely crazy. it's this. joe biden is the perfect

president for this moment. and they don't know what to do about it. that's not to say he's going to have a perfect presidency. but coming on the heels of donald trump in the middle of a pandemic, joe biden's message of unity is exactly what the nation needs. there will always be a cot age industry of entrenched partisan opposition. we see that with hannity and they don't know how to confront a unifying president. joe biden is going to have to choose a hard ideological direction. maybe the world stage will hand him a tough deck of cards. in this moment, joe biden is the perfect president, and here's the one thing republicans could be talking about or democrats, the one authentic debate we should be having about the stimulus. it's not about the deficit. republicans don't have credibility on that. it is about how do we eventually move the economy off the fault stimulus we have had to embrace to get us through this. the fed has had to do some things outside of the reach of legislation, but the congress has had to step in and act to

stand up the economy. it is a fair conversation for democrats or republicans to say, okay, we're going to go another round of 1.9 trillion. what is the long-term plan to bring our economy stably off of this fault stimulus. i think that's a good policy conversation to have. if democrats don't grab it, maybe republicans could, but it doesn't give them the fire that sean hannity wants to breathe on fox news every night. >> well, and quick, first i'm going to go to david first, and it seems to me that the simple message, just based on what you just heard from david jolly, americans outside of the people who are super partisan, and real party people, they just want things to get done. and if democrats are saying we're fighting a war against, we're the checks party, and they're the no party. it feels like democrats have a strong argument if they're willing to make it. >> with the general public, joy, that's right. with the hard core republican base, no.

the insurrectionists, who i think are only going to grow, and so many republicans in congress thinking about running for president are not thinking about the center of the country or even right center part of the republican party. the other thing that strengthens joe biden, when you hear him talk about the pandemic today, it is so shocking to hear an american president speak about it truthfully and honestly, the stakes, the impact, and so i think by lifting up the stakes that what's at stake here is whether we get on the other side of the pandemic, what's at stake here is whether we have years and years of recessionary economics or not. what's at stake here is, you know, tens of millions of people are living via threat. i think biden being out there every day, not just saying what he wants to do, reminding people how serious the situation is, that this is a war like situation, it's a national emergency. i think that's a great term. i think for 65 or 70% of the american people, their answer is

just get us help, so that doesn't handle the primary activists, but that's been our problem in american politics for a long time, but in terms of this relief package, yeah, i think he can speak to not just the middle of the country but even reach into the center right part of our country as well. >> and the final word for you on this, i mean, the new president, president biden festooned his office with the real sort of americana, the ben franklin, versus andrew jackson, having these busts of mlk, et cetera, that sort of says something. do you think he needs to keep the visuals going, be on tv, speak to the country. maybe that's the one thing he can pick up from the previous guy to be constantly visible. would you say that that's a good idea for him. >> i think it's certainly a good idea for him to be giving clear public health messages. we know communication is key during a public health crisis, and making sure there's clarity around mask wearing, what he is doing to serve the american people. to david plouffe's point, i

think the way a lot of way the politicians win is delivering material improvements to americans' lives. if those bills, measures, executive orders start improving people's lives, put food on the table, bring back the economy, bring bang restaurants, bring back jobs, that's how politicians win in the long-term. that's what they should be focused on, as opposed to this interim messaging. from the bully pulpit of the white house, absolutely, joe biden getting out there reassuring the american people that he understands the tremendous loss of nearly half a million lives in this country, that he understands the things they're going through is certainly a welcome change and i think something that's going to make him appeal to the american public in a way donald trump never could. >> indeed, the best politics is delivering, david plouffe, david jolly, thank you all three. on the reidout, the lone article of impeachment on monday. >> the senate will conduct a

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the little autocrat who couldn't remains on the hook for his role in whipping up the capitol riot that killed five people. the impeachment article for inciting insurrection heads to the senate on monday, setting off the second senate trial for the former president that he's faced for high crimes and misdemeanors. the trial will begin this week on february 8th, predictably, staunch defenders of the old order remain. lindsey graham continue to denounce the effort and rejecting calls to install biden's cabinet, while

proceeding with the trial at the same time. >> hopefully the senate will reject the idea of pursuing the president after they leave office. >> if you want to impeach the president, we're going to do it like we've always done it. we're not going to split the day. >> joining me now is one of the impeachment managers congressman ted lieu of california, and thank you so much for being here. i got to start by asking you if you feel -- the first trial didn't feel like a fair trial. it was brilliantly handled by the impeachment managers but it was clear that the mitch mcconnell and the republicans were never going to allow there to be a full trial. in this case, the lawyer for the ex-president was arranged through lindsey graham, right, he set him up and put him in there. it's somebody that's got a history with george w. bush. this is somebody that lindsey graham put him in there. do you feel like between that and having two of your jurors are sitting there with ethics complaints against them, ted cruz, and josh hawley, that you

even have any possibility of a fair jury for your case? >> we do. first of all, i think that says a lot when the public reporting shows the president was having trouble finding a lawyer to represent him. i'm pleased he found a lawyer to represent him. we're ready to go, whether it's next week or february 8th. we believe we will present a very very persuasive case because the american people saw crimes unfold in realtime, including these u.s. senators, some of who were victims of what happened on january 6th. >> is it possible for you to call senators as witnesses? >> so the senate will come up with procedures and rules for the trial, and we will follow whatever those rules are. we have a very strong case based on the evidence that many in america watched on that day. donald trump inciting this mob of violently attack the capitol

to stop congress from formalizing his defeat. trump was using violence to try to stay in power. >> so there's getting to the evidence of that, and then there's getting to whether or not the trial itself is constitutional, what appears to be set up as argument number one. ron johnson who through the courts of the way senate procedure works because the senate has been organized yet, still in charge of the homeland security community, even though he's term limited and in the minority. he came out and tweeted the following, democrats can't have it both ways, an unconstitutional impeachment trial, and confirmation of the biden administration, and national security team. what he essentially is saying, ron johnson, the guy who was floating conspiracy theories about ukraine is now saying that he wants to hold hostage the national security staff of the incoming president to try to stop the impeachment. again, you're walking into some very shark filled waters here.

>> this has nothing to do with being vindictive. it has to do with deterrents. it has to do with national security, future presidents need to know that they cannot attempt a coup to hold on to power, and the only time they're going to try this is after they have lost an election, and it simply can't be that a senate is going to say we have no jurisdiction to deal with what presidents do after the presidential elections. of course the senate does and of course this is constitutional, and in 1800s, congress did in fact, impeach and convict a former secretary. there is ample precedence for this. >> if you can get through that first step of being able to say, yes, it is constitutional to hold an impeachment trial for a president who's out of power, when you move on to step 2, what is going to be your primary argument for conviction? >> so again, i want to note that

not only is it constitutional, but over 150 constitutional law scholars, including conservative members of the federal society have signed on to a letter saying this is completely constitutional, and our argument is very simple, donald trump, the commander in chief, incited an insurrection. it was an attack on our nation's capitol, to stop congress from accepting the certified electoral college results and a number of people died. if you're not going to impeach and convict a president through doing that, it's not clear to me why you even have that clause in the constitution. >> yeah, and very quickly, to shout out to william belkknapp who was impeached in 1876, my great producers here in charges of prosecuting his high office. he resigned trying to escape impeachment, but got impeached anyway, so there's a precedent. i have to come back to the fact that there is such disingenuity on the other side.

you have members on the other side who have made it clear they don't want this trial to happen. do you feel a little awkward presenting this case against people who helped whip up that mop, people like ted cruz, people like, you know, josh hawley, should they even be allowed to be jurors here? >> we want to present the case to 100 senators, we want to try to get 100 senators to vote for conviction. at the end of the day, what happened is not only utterly acceptable, crimes were being committed, instigated by our commander in chief, and this was done to maintain power, and if we don't do something now, then future presidents and future generations will go, huh, i lost the election. let me see what i can do to maintain power, and maybe next time they're going to be successful. that's why we have to act strongly, and swiftly, and i hope all senators will be open to convicting. >> we will be watching. congressman ted lieu, thank you so much. appreciate you being here this

evening. join us on monday as we go on the air at 7:00 p.m. eastern. house managers, including congressman ted lieu are set to deliver the articles. people of color charged with petty offenses languish in jail, that's right, the american insurrectionists some of whom are offering simply ridiculous excuses for their actions. more on that after this quick break. r actions. more on that after this quick break. ♪ ♪ ♪ smooth driving pays off. ♪ with allstate, the safer you drive the more you save. ♪ you never been in better hands.

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remember riley june williams, she's the woman arrested on tuesday, accused of stealing speaker pelosi's laptop during the capitol insurrection, facing charges of violent entry, theft, trespassing and obstructing and under investigation for allegedly

plotting to sell speaker pelosi's laptop to russian spies. yet, she was released from jail in her mother's custody on the orders of a magistrate judge and as the court transcript suggests that judge appeared to take quite a bit of pride in his decision. he reminded williams that i took steps to protect your constitutional rights and added that her counsel aggressively represented her interests. williams one of many defendants from the capitol siege who have been freed from jail pending trial. the guy who infamously took nancy pelosi's lectern, he was released from jail. the guy with the camp auschwitz sweatshirt was released because prosecutors didn't bother to seek detention, and one of the men seen carrying zip tie handcuffs, indicates may have intended to take hostages was released by a texas judge. equal protection by the law, exists in theory: not in practice. shoplifting or up charge with

felonies after their first offense, then the thousands who languish in jail awaiting trial because they can't afford to post bond. black and brown defendants receive bail amounts that are twice as high as bail set for white defendants and they are less likely to be able to afford it. perhaps the most egregious case is that have of the bronx teenager who spent three years in a rikers island jail cell without a trial. two of those years were in solitary confinement because he was accused of stealing a backpack and couldn't afford bail. the charges were dropped but brow der's experience, he never recovered, he committed suicide two years after his release at age of 22. with me now is criminal trial and defense attorney and paul butler, former federal prosecutor. midwin, you and i have texted about this, i've seen you tweet about this. there are defendants who are accused of almost nothing who are sitting in rikers or in

other jails around the country and can't afford bail. how do you feel watching these attempted insurrectionists, waltz out of jail, out of court, not even go into jail. >> you're right. all criminal defendants are entitled to due process and equal protection under the law. we have a criminal justice system that metes out disproportionate outcomes based on race. the description you stlu out there is 100% accurate. black males or black people, rather, are 25% more likely than white defendants to be held pretrial. now, nationally, young black men are 50% more likely than white men to be held pretrial, and just because you said their bail amounts are twice as high. it's not surprising for me to see this disparate treatment

that the insurrectionists are getting. when we talk about kalif brouder and black lives matter protests and how they were treated by capitol police in terms of no restraint, we saw police dressed in robo cop gear, using tear gas. we didn't see that on the insurrection in january 6th. i have had clients that have spent more time in jail than this woman who was alleged to have stolen nancy pelosi's laptop for driving without a license, and she gets to not only not be in jail, but released to her mother as though she's a child and we also have a federal judge speaking to her and about her as though she just stole a t-shirt from h and m. if you looked at the charges she was facing, you would not recognize the severity, the backdrop of the context within which she was arrested and it's unfortunate. it's something that we have to work towards fixing in this

country. >> indeed. paul, just as a former prosecutor, you have people who are making the most absurd excuses and demands inside the courtrooms. a former houston police officer who was in part of the riots is trying to claim he only breached the capitol because he wanted to see the art. you have the los angeles times reporting that the rioters are arguing trump invited them in, and now they think they should have gotten pardons. too bad. he doesn't care about you all. i answered the call of my president, they're saying, saying trump told them to do, the devil made me do it defense. and magistrates are hearing these cases and saying, you know, i think i'm going to send you home. maybe i'll get you a burger king and a nice organic meal to go with it. we'll treat you, you know, as midwin just said, as if you're accused of boosting a sweater from h and m, and they invaded our capitol. can you explain this as a

prosecutor? >> i can't explain it as a prosecutor or an american. i can explain it as an african-american person who unfortunately is all too familiar with two different systems of justice in this country, one for rich people and white people, another for low income people and people of color. the defenses that we have seen, the first trump made me do it, that's accurate, but it's not a defense to seditious conspiracy or even unlawful entry. the other defense is antifa, or the black lives matter movement made me do it. there's simply no evidence that any of those folks were at the capitol with all of these trump supporters and the third defense is it wasn't me. but video records and cell phone records and eyewitness testimony all rebut that defense. >> they're getting by the family members and friend.

it feels like the mistreatment is not only black and white, you have enrico, an afro cuban, caught with gun magazines chuck not have in the district, arrested for tearing down a black lives matter sign, and he wasn't held. he was ejected to florida. but he was still allowed to come out. it almost feels like there's also a difference if your ideological makeup is conservative or your crimes relate to a conservative ideology, you can take advantage of the disparate treatment. >> or also, what it is that you are there for, and what it is that you're protesting, for example. we saw a sort of, i think, a restraint approach with the men who had overtaken the capitol in the state of michigan. we didn't see a sort of huge undertaking to charge them with serious crimes or anything like that. i think you're right. it seems as though the issue that people are actually protesting seems to mete out a

different treatment, but throughout the system, so not just with respect to bail but also with respect to how police treat you, with respect to what charges you're charged with, with respect to whether or not you stand trial, with respect to what the sentence will be, and so i think the tell going forward with this case or with these cases are going to be what will these people be convicted of, and what sentence will they receive, right? we have seen the disparate treatment, with sentencing, for example, in cases with brock turner and lori loughlin. there's so many different cases and so many different areas of law that make it plain that this disproportionate like paul was saying, two different systems for two different people is accurate. >> indeed, and you've seen the treatment of the, you know, the guy, the kid who shot up mother emanuel church and got served burger king, you know, by

police. you've seen the release of the teenager who shot two white black lives matter activists and is out on bail and, you know, allegedly throwing the white power sign. it feels like the ideological disparity is now starting to compete with the racial disparity in terms of treatment. is this something about judges. is this because there are so many conservative judges. what do you think that is about. >> we can think about implicit bias, where just like we saw at the capitol on january 6th, white danger isn't perceived the same way as threats from african-americans even when black folks aren't actually threatening. so with bail, judges are supposed to consider the seriousness of the charges, criminal history, ties to the community, and financial circumstances, and unfortunately the way that judges evaluate this evidence is often to the benefit of people who are rich or people who are white.

and look, jail is a bad place, if you're awaiting trial. there's evidence that people are more likely to plead guilty because they just want to go home. they can't work or spend time with your families, so there's nothing wrong with being released if you're not a danger to the community. and what we know from these domestic terrorists is not only do they present a flight risk, but these are white supremacists who attacked congress to overturn the election. they are a clear and present danger to national security and public safety. >> yeah, somebody please tell these magistrates. midwin charles, paul butler. thank you very much, have a great weekend, both of you. up next, the qanon identity crisis, what do you do when every bat poop bananas belief you cling to, i did say bat poop bananas turns out not to be true. stay with us. rns out not to be

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politics doesn't have to be a raging fire. destroying everything in it path. every disagreement doesn't have to be a cause for total war. and we must reject the culture in which facts themselves are manipulated and even manufactured. >> at the same time president biden was calling on americans to believe in facts again, the fact that he was getting inaugurated at all was a huge shock to qanon supporters who believed the inauguration was an elaborate trap where democrats would be rounded up and executed while the former president remained in power. qanon posted dejected messages one including we all just got played, and another saying they were beyond let down, but while some qanon supporters may have been disillusioned by the gorgeousy prediction not coming

true, others moved on to other conspiracy theories. julien sanchez re-tweeted theories, that biden's inauguration was fake, there was a look alike used the images of biden in the oval office was a movie set. the united states was turned into a corporation and dissolved and biden has been switch aro. trump had to appear to leave office. it's really, it is bad poop bananas, is this real or are these the people who are like the guy who dresses in the horn outfit, who are actors trying to make a buck? >> i will say, we're closer to the second one than the first one at this point. a lot of these people are, you know, they're on their sort of last legs, going down sovereign citizen arguments, old arguments, the whole thing about, you know, there's a lot of like symbolism and stuff they

look into when they can't get a grasp on the full thing. i will say it's still really dangerous what's happening here. you know, pizzagate died in december of 2016. it was this idea that hillary clinton was, you know, running a sex ring through a pizza shop ia sex ring through a pizza shop. and they were banned after a guy went to go shoot up that pizza shop. but ten months later, qanon happened. people thought, how much dumber can get than pizzagate. it can get dumber. it's not about the information. it's about the networks that work together to push this information to people who want to find answers where there are no answers. >> also tends to get more white supremacists. during the tea party build up, there were stories that they were lurking around tea party rallies seeing if they could

recruit people. that looks like a rich environment if they're looking to recruit here too. >> the beauty of the internet, this is all up in the open. we're seeing white supremacist groups with scripts to give to dejected qanon followers. they say, hey, i'm a trump supporter too. i've been let down as well by trump or "q," or whatever. but in our world, we don't just let it go by, we don't let this plan go by, we drive people to direct action. and that's what -- they were targeting people that they called parler refugees, people who had been on parler all the time and had nowhere else to go. they aren't reading the paris review or something. they're not diving into good information all of a sudden. they are going wherever they can confirm their -- wherever hillary clinton is this demonic figure and where is this more than these white supremacist groups on telegram.

while we laugh at these people -- this is a funny thing that people thought was going to happen. the only people not laughing are extremists and they're taking them in. >> yeah, and the other issue is that, you know, just as with the tea party, people thought, you know, with their crazy signs and monkey dolls, that's absurd, and now a bunch of them are in congress. you have marjorie taylor greene making herself the qanon aoc. how dangerous is it that they have representatives who believe in this? >> as you can see, there is this sort of -- the king of qanon is the next one is yet to be sworn in. donald trump doesn't have the power to play footsie with those ideals anymore. now, the tip of the spear here is wide open. there are people angling for this right now, marjorie taylor

greene, the stop the steal thing, all of them are trying to angle to be the central driver of these conspiracy theories. that's the most important thing about qanon. it's not about "q." it's about this grievance culture where they can substitute new conspiracies over time and can push the lies all the way to places like fox where they have to allude to these things. that's the worry -- >> to be very clear -- >> she's going to try to do this. >> yeah. and just to be very clear, this is also about making money. they push these things and then they monetize it because they make these people into marks that give them cash, right? >> absolutely. it's a really marketable thing. sometimes they're not even buying anything. they're donating money to influencers who say exactly all of their fantasies, they make them -- they make them real with

a youtube video, put nice graphics on them. and all along, you know, you can say that hillary clinton was that demon, and somebody will give you money through paypal. this is an extremely lucrative business. it's not going to go away overnight. >> yeah. it's all a grift. thank you for following all of this for us so we don't have to follow it as intricately as you do. coming up, the passing of a monumental figure from the world of sports. that's next. 's next. our retirement plan with voya, keeps us moving forward. hey, kevin! hey, guys! they have customized solutions to help our family's special needs... giving us confidence in our future ...and in kevin's. voya. well planned. well invested. well protected.

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i couldn't go out of the ballpark without an escort. i had to stay in another hotel rather than staying in a hotel with my teammates. it was the toughest moment of my life that i had. >> hank aaron spoke to nbc's craig melvin last year about the racism he faced back in the 1970s as he eclipsed babe ruth's

home run record. mr. aaron died this morning and the world of baseball and the world, period, has lost one of its legendary figures. he played for 23 seasons and his record of 755 home runs stood for more than 30 years. mr. aaron was elected to the baseball hall of fame in 1982 and was one of the first high-ranking black executives in baseball which sadly is still a rarity. despite his unparalleled accomplishments, it was his perseverance that defines his legacy. aaron, who grew up in deeply segregated alabama, dealt with racial abuse and humiliation for much of his life, during the final stages of his chase to dethrone ruth as baseball's home run king in 1973 and 1974. he received death threats. the horrific treatment deeply scarred aaron but i didn't stop

him. on april 8th, 1974, at the age of 40, aaron hit his record-breaking 715th home run in his home stadium in atlanta and received an 11-minute standing ovation. a black athlete who exhibited incredible grace and strength in the face of great hostility was now being showered with applause. hammering hank aaron was 86 years old. tonight on "all in," joe biden and the fierce urgency of now. >> we're in a national emergency. we need to act like we're in a national emergency. >> tonight, white house communications director kate bedingfield on the president's call for action and the push for democrats to employ