good day, everyone. from msnbc world headquarters here in new york, welcome to "weekends with alex witt." my conversation with dr. anthony fauci coming your way in just a moment. but we'll start with the coronavirus pandemic. the u.s. is quickly approaching 25 million cases nationwide. look, we're just a short ways away from that, adding more than 278,000 new cases on friday. it was the biggest single day increase. more than 16 million americans have received at least one dose of the vaccine. in fact, 2 million have gotten both doses, rather. but some states report running out of doses and they are canceling appointments. officials in new york, florida, and ohio are among those requesting a larger supply.

and in california, covid death rates are reaching record highs. just this week, the state recorded its highest number of deaths in a single day. and despite that, nbc news data shows just six states are seeing a percentage increase in cases over the last two weeks. 27 states are seeing a percentage decrease across that same time period. we are covering the pandemic from coast-to-coast for you. nbc's scott cohn is in california and cory coffin is in new york. with a welcome to you both, cory, i'll reach out to you first. you're at a vaccination site in queens. what are you hearing about the process for folks to get vaccinated? >> reporter: yeah, alex, good afternoon to you. it's a difficult one, to say the least. the people we've spoken with out here saythey tried for several weeks to get an appointment and finally the ones that were lucky enough to get one, one woman drove over an hour away to get here because this was the closest site to her. we are also learning from the governor that they have now

exhausted week five all of their vaccine so far. now they have week six, we're getting into week six and they say that that vaccination amount is trickling in and that will continue. so, of course, the appointments do continue, but they have significantly slowed. some 23,000 appointments have had to be either canceled or postponed. in addition to that, we also know that that first group, the first responder group has had to also slow down their vaccinations. fdny reporting that many of their firefighters could not get the vaccine right now. and unfortunately, some vaccination sites have had to be shut down. the aqueduct racetrack where we're at is still operational, but had to slow down their appointments, as well. and the governor said, with me talking about how long it took for some of the people to come out here, and that was the closest site she could find. the governor said today that that is a major problem. accessibility for people, especially in poorer communities. he said, that's going to be something the state has to work on. in addition, he is now calling on the federal government for

aid moving forward to be merit-based, not based on red or blue states, like the previous administration had done. listen to what he said. >> we have to get help for new york. because the congress members are right. new york got hit hardest. fairness dictates that this nation now responds to us, with the appropriate aid. we had more pain in this state than any other state. and that federal resource allocation should reflect that. >> and unfortunately, alex, that pain still wildly felt in the number of cases moving forward. some 54 zip codes in the city of new york now reporting over a 10% positivity rate. that's a third of the city of new york. alex? >> okay, thank you so much that, cori coffin from queens. i just heard governor cuomo saying that it had it worst than any state.

i'm going to suggest that california could rival anything that new york has seen as well. i'm wedded to both places, certainly. what can you tell us about the outbreak there in the golden state? >> reporter: i was going to say, alex, california can certainly give new york a run for its money in the pain department with well over 2 million cases here. there is a little bit of cautious optimism now that that post-holiday surge we've been talking about the last few weeks may be leveling off. but then you do have individual outbreaks like the ones at the hospital behind me, the kaiser permanente medical center in san jose. you remember hearing about this right after christmas. it was started apparently by a staffer who showed up unwittingly showed up in a christmas tree costume with an air power to it and that may have spread the virus faster. some 77 staff members and more than a dozen patients infected. they do believe now that they have it under control, but it was confounding them to some extent why it spread so far, so

fast. one possible reason, though, may be that that outbreak is linked to a variant of the covid virus known as l-452r. listen. >> with that particular outbreak, we actually did do genetic testing on the virus and we did find that this new variant was present during that outbreak. so it is a component of it. but i don't think it's a complete picture. you know, we have to deal with, of course, the variant question, but it's also making sure that we've got the infection prevention and infection control practices in place. >> and that brings us back to the whole issues of vaccines. experts that we've been talking to tell us that the longer that this virus is spreading unchecked, the more opportunities it has to mutate and that means that we're in a race against time here in california and across the country, to get more vaccinations into people's arms. and alex, by one measure, the

amount of vaccine that's been injected versus the allocation received, california ranks dead last. >> hate hearing that. okay, thank you so much, scott cohn, for that update from san jose. a bit earlier, i spoke with dr. anthony fauci, who is now the top covid adviser for the biden administration. he told me when he thought we might get back to a sense of normalcy, discuss the new strains of the virus, and talked about what it was like working within the trump administration. >> i always did speak based on the data and the science, but obviously, there is pressure about messaging that and, you know, i have not -- i took no pleasure in having to sometimes publicly, even with the president there, to contradict what he was saying, but i felt as a scientist i had to be true to myself and true to the science. the kinds of things that the

president was talking about was community vaccine centers is, a much greater use of the pharmacies, mobile units to get things out. so you're going to see a really revving up of the capability and actually the implementation of getting much larger numbers of people vaccinated. it looks like the uk strain that even though there might be a slight, if any diminution in the ability of the vaccine to contain and block this virus, it's not going to have a significant impact on our vaccine program. the same holds true, but a little bit more ominous for the south african isolate. the effect on the vaccine efficacy is probably -- not probably, but seems to be significantly more than the uk strain, but still, it's within the framework of the vaccines that we're using, still providing protection.

i believe that if we do get that 70 to 85% of the population vaccinated, we would reach a degree of herd immunity that would get us to approach strongly a degree of normality. i don't think we're going to be absolutely where we were prior to this pandemic, but we could be doing many things that we're really hesitant to do right now. i would say sometime by the fall. the president made it very clear that what we were going to do going forward is everything is going to be based on science and evidence and data. and science will rule and science will speak. what we're going to be doing is instead of pointing fingers, making blame, we're going to try to fix it. >> and, in fact, dr. fauci went on to say that he's confident that the new administration can, indeed, carry out its plan to vaccinate 100 million people in the first hundred days of the

biden presidency. joining me now, dr. kavita patel. i'm curious about your reaction from what you just heard from dr. fauci and do you feel confident as well that the new administration is on the right track and indeed can get control of this pandemic? >> alex, great to be with you. and i do feel confident that the administration can get us on the right track, of course, and i think dr. fauci alluded to it, it's going to have some bumps along the way, especially with these kind of un -- you know, unforeseeable factors like a mutation that could be more transmissible or more deadly. however, what we have now, and i've read through it, is a 200-page plan that's a foundation for getting us back to normal in all aspects. but, hey, look, i am going to be the first to tell you, alex, this vaccine distribution, if i were a schoolteacher, i would give it an "f," or whatever grade is below an "f." coming out of that, you can't go from an "f" to an "a" overnight, this is why i'm trying to figure out how, you know, state and

local partners such as myself can help with this effort and raise our hands and say, we need help. right now, there's a lot of people pointing the fingers at each other. >> and that's what fauci said, that's not what they're going to do. is there something that stood out most to you in that 200-page plan? >> i think what stood out most to me candidly, alex, we were all expecting to see something solid on vaccine distribution. i am really pleased that we saw some attention to some really technical supply issues, like what i think is going to become a very popular phrase this week. low-volume syringes, so you can get as much of that vaccine out of that vial, as possible. alex, i was also happy to see a real commitment to get schools back open. and i was also pleased to see that paired with working to get fema and national guard resources, that won't cost states money, because states have to keep a balanced budget, oz you know. and they're up against a wall

trying to spend more money that they don't have. and they're taking it out of their education budgets, out of their sanitation budgets. so i was really pleased to see that. >> something they had to do in large part because the trump administration punted so much of the execution of this vaccine in getting it out to citizens, to the states. let me ask you about the things that dr. fauci said in terms of things feeling more normal by fall. what exactly will that look like? do you think we'll still be wearing masks for quite some time, but may be allowed to gather in large groups for things like concerts, movies, sporting events? >> i think that masks will be part of our at least 2021, but to your point, alex, i think we're going to start with the thing you and i are personally both craving, we're going to be able to get households together. i'm going to be able to see my parents and hug them. and so i think that's going to be a very important starting block with people who are vaccinated. and look, alex, we're going to get data soon, hopefully, about whether if you and i get vaccinated, am i still at risk

of giving other people this infection? we should have that data in time to tell us, can we go to concerts, can we go to parks, and then what we're going to have to do is wait until we get to that 70 to 85% threshold of the country being vaccinated that dr. fauci mentioned. once we start hitting that mark, we've really suppressed the activity of this virus to the way other coronaviruses are, like the common cold and the flu. and i am really, truly, i believe that like our christmas holiday season, maybe including thanksgiving, that we will be able to lift a lot of these public health precautions, including probably only limiting masks, candidly, alex, to the people that we know are still at risk of getting this infection. maybe children, maybe people with certain diseases after we've done more research. but it is definitely going to be a better and better summer, fall, and winter. >> something i want to ask, and it's actually something my mother brought up, because she went to see her physician this week, and he suggested, it's

possible we're going to need to have annual boosters, like the flu shot, that kind of thing, for covid. do you know anything about that? has that been determined, definitively? >> it has not been determined definitively, but here's why he was wise in telling your mother that. it's because we are watching these mutations. you just heard dr. fauci tell you that that south african mutation is the one where they're looking to see if it can escape all the effectiveness of a vaccine. and it predicts to us, alex, that this is a smart virus, that will mutate. all viruses mutate, but it might mutate in a way where the vaccine that we take today might not be as strong as the mutations are in about a year. and we could need boosters. and i would just prepare, as the american public, that this is not going to be the only time we get covid vaccines, but i'm okay with that. there was a time, alex, when we didn't have a polio vaccine or a measles vaccine, and now those

are part of the natural language. we'll have a lot more information and we'll have a much better surveillance system. it's also part of the biden plan, to detect early when those mutations become significant enough to need a change in the vaccine formulation. >> okay. i always feel better after speaking with you, dr. kavita patel. thank you so much. the uproars in the halls of congress not just over the right, but now how some members are acting over the new measures in place to keep them all safe. e hey, guys! they have customized solutions to help our family's special needs... graduation selfie! well done! and voya stays by our side, keeping us on track for retirement... giving us confidence in our future ...and in kevin's. you ready for your first day on the job? i was born ready. go get'em, kev. well planned. well invested. well protected. voya. be confident to and through retirement. with oscar mayer deli fresh it's not just a sandwich, far from it.

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president biden is facing criticism from republicans for issuing 130 executive orders during his first three days in office. let's go to nbc's monica alba live in washington for us. monica, another welcome to you. so how is president responding to this backlash? >> president biden and the white house are essentially saying that there isn't anything partisan or democratic about the actions that they're taking and that really, they should appeal, they would say, to all americans

who are concerned and desperately need additional coronavirus relief or they would argue that some of the measures and things that they have put into place in terms of combatting the pandemic or essential now because of the rise in hospitalizations and in deaths and because of these mounting questions about what these variants may mean, as they continue to spread in the united states and we see questions overseas about just how transmissible and then also how they can affect the mortality. so in order to deal with all of that, the white house is arguing that essentially, there isn't anything about this that is unique to just their party. that this should appeal to both. the president spoke a little bit more in detail about that and why everybody should really be on this same page when it comes to this. take a listen. >> the crisis is only deepening. it's not getting better. it's deepening. this is happening today in america. and this cannot be who we are as a country. these are not the values of our

nation. we cannot, will not let people go hungry. we cannot let people be evicted because of nothing they did themselves. we cannot watch people lose their jobs and we have to act. we have to act now. >> so tomorrow, alex, top white house officials will be talking to a bipartisan group of lawmakers, specifically about this covid relief package, that right now is at $1.9 trillion. we've already seen some pushback to just how high that number is. but of course the reason they want to get this going is because they know limited time in the next couple of weeks and a lot of issues to juggle, including this impeachment trial that is now set for a couple of weeks from now. they know if they're going to be managing both, they do definitely want to prioritize, the white house is arguing, the ability to get some legislation passed. this is something that president biden has talked about with incredible surrogacy, because he says we have multiple crisis

that are all coming together and converging at the same time. and that's why we want -- they want to see action so soon. an interesting point here, though, is it doesn't seem president biden himself is going to be a part of the call that's scheduled for tomorrow. whether that changes or not will be notable, but he has so many deep relationships with people on capitol hill, given all of his history there. so we expect him to continue to be a part of the negotiations, but also to delegate in many ways, so that work in congress can get done smoothly, alex. >> well, we know once that's cleared up, you will let us know for sure. thank you so much, monica alba. joining me now, democratic congresswoman from nevada, dana tida. she's a member of the foreign affairs and homeland security committee. good to see you again, ma'am. thank you so much for joining me. you just heard the president. he's describing this country, our country, where there are some folks in pretty desperate need. and i know you represent las vegas, which has the highest unemployment rate of any large

metro area in the u.s. talk about the level of desperation you're seeing and how quickly relief is needed. >> well, we still get about 50 calls a day to my local office with people who need help on unemployment insurance, small business, where's the food bank? how do i keep from getting evicted? and this is from no fault of their own. they have either lost their job because we're so dependent on travel and tourism, and people have to have a little money in their pocket and feel safe to want to go on holiday. so i am very supportive of getting this rescue package in as soon as possible. people are desperate and looking to us from help. >> have you seen any impact from the $900 billion relief plan that was passed last month? did that help at all? and if so, how? >> one of the ways it helped us, there was a provision in there for live entertainment venues and some provisions that helped restaurants who didn't quite qualify for the previous loan to small businesses. so that helped.

but you think about, that's not very much when you have a whole economy based on hospitality, tourism, and the ancillary businesses that support it. >> absolutely. can you nail down what is the most dire need for people there? is it food, housing, work? >> it's hard to single one out, because they're all so related. but if we can get the jobs back, those other things will fall into place, i believe. i certainly support going to the $2,000 direct payment, raising the minimum wage, because like i said, a lot of people are in the service industry, and we can do that. that will be helpful. and keeping people in their homes. this will extent eviction protection until next fall, so people can get back to work, kind of get their feet on the ground, and catch up and make up. >> yeah. let me ask you about your d.c. workplace. right now, capitol hill police are investigating whether republican congressman andy harris from maryland tried to bring a gun on to the house floor. what have you, ma'am, heard

about that? and as a member of the homeland security committee, how alarmed are you by not just the act, but the entire mentality around doing something like that? >> well, i find it astounding. the rules have been in place since the '60s that you can't carry a gun on the floor of the house. that's not something new. people can have them in their offices, some people have gift revolvers or long gun antiques or something like that, but even if you carry a gun in the rest of the congress, not on the floor, you can't have ammunition in it. it's a little striking when you have to go through a metal detector to get to the floor, but you wonder, why do people think they need a gun on the floor? i sit on the homeland security committee, as you mention, and we are going to play closer attention to domestic terrorism. we tried to do that in the last administration, and the members of the trump team just kind of pooh-poohed it. but you heard president biden

say he's going to put his national security team together with the fbi, police officers around the country, to make this a priority. and that includes investigating people who are members of congress. >> well, and to that point, there are a few lawmakers who say that there is a heightened level of mistrust among members of congress since the riot. do you agree with that? and what do you think needs to happen to restore good faith? >> well, i certainly support the investigations, and i have republican friends that i have worked with them on issues that are non-ideological, like infrastructure, animal issues, even the covid virus, the virus doesn't know party lines. >> right. >> the vaccine doesn't know red from blue. this should not be partisan. and so i'm hopeful that we can work on those issues together. but it is -- you know, you have to question somebody who believes in the qanon or wants to bring a gun on to the floor

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capitol hill is preparing for now private citizen donald trump's second impeachment trial in just two days. house speaker nancy pelosi will send the articles of impeachment to the senate, but the trial has been delayed to begin on february 9th. joining me now, activist, filmmaker, and documentary producer, michael moore. also a good friend of this broadcast. good to see you, michael. let me ask you first about your thoughts on the second impeachment trial. do you think you could potentially compromise the message that joe biden has put out there as a message of unity? and does it matter to you if it does? >> well, unity in this case was trump and what he did to incite

that riot. unity would mean our devotion to the constitution. that's what we're unified on. and he cannot get away with this. if he gets away with this. if he's not tried and convicted in the senate, he's not going away to jail for life. it's just, the united states senate is going to -- have to take a stand and say to future presidents, you cannot do this. you cannot send off a cop-killing mob down pennsylvania avenue and do what they did. never happened in our 200-year-plus history. and they are going to make a huge mistake for the safety of this country if they do not have that trial and convict him for what he did. absolute -- now, as far as unity. we need to redefine this word here. we already have unity in this country. other than maybe the far, crazy, 20%, way, way out there, you

know, the ones who believe that the clintons are still operating a pedophile ring in the pizza place on connecticut avenue, other than them, most americans are unified. we all pretty much want the same thing. we all are unified on, we want our kids to go to the best schools. we're unified on the fact that we want to breathe clean air and drink clean water. we're unified on so many things that we have in common. we're much more of that than the things we don't. the things we're not unified on, it's just a few things. if you don't believe in abortion, don't have one. if you want to have a gun, have one. just keep it safe. if you don't believe in gay marriage, don't get gay married. you'll hate it. so that's really kind of about it, isn't it. we already are unified. so we need to quickly be unified on getting rid of covid. if your neighbor's house is on fire and you look out there and go, oh, my god, we should call

911. oh, no, wait a minute, i think he's a democrat. nobody would say that! we all have to be together on getting rid of covid. it's in a horrible state right now. i know biden said he would do a hundred or a million doses in a hundred days. is that what it was? something like that. i can't remember. >> a hundred million doses in a hundred days. >> a hundred million. so, good news, his first two days, there were a million doses each day. so off to a good start. >> so far, so good. >> yeah, but we're out of the vaccine. so he needs to be very proactive and not wait around and not hold meetings. he needs to, like he said, engage in the defense production act and he needs to send national guard troops -- how about the army corps of engineers, to kalamazoo, michigan, and essentially do what roosevelt and truman did in world war ii, kind of take over the factory or run it so that

this gets done. it's not about how much money pfizer is going to make now, it's how many lives we're going to save. so we have to -- the government, we, the people, who are dying at a rate of 3,000 to 4,000 a day, we the people now own those factories until we win this war. that has -- he has to do that. his administration has to do that right now. but otherwise, i think it's been a great first few days. i was so happy on inauguration day. that day, his speech, j.lo, a-rod, gaga, i mean, it was all -- president amanda gorman, 2036. >> and three former presidents there. just the tradition that was upheld. >> and poor jimmy carter, who is 96 and not so well right now, but he wanted to be there. it was so beautiful. and when they did that little parade, their walk, the small

walk down pennsylvania avenue by the white house, and vice president harris looses an earring, her husband, so attentive noticed that the earring fell out and he runs back down pennsylvania avenue -- >> just so normal! >> -- to get the earring. yes! and i think everybody, anybody watching that is going, where do i get one of those? what factory does he come out of? does amazon deliver? >> let me ask you about, when you talk about, as we look ahead to the impeachment trial and the interpretation of the constitution, i'm going to just tell you, it pains me to say that i appreciate what you're saying about -- the constitution is the constitution, but even within my family, i had a pretty heated chat with one member this week, we could not be more poepsed in our interpretation of what that means in its application. so i'm not unique in that. there are millions of

families -- you said there were 20% of those that were adhering to this kind of very far extremist. i think it might be more than that. aren't you worried about that? that all of this is infiltrated so many facets of our society that to have these kinds of conversations where we talk about unity, the things that are important, keeping a good home, educating your kids, good food, being able to -- >> you know, listen, you and i you're younger than i am, but we grew up in a time where there were tv commercials for cigarettes. where a real doctor during the commercial would tell people how good smoking was for them. and the more they smoked, the healthier they would be. i have seen americans able to wrap their heads around the truth, eventually. and do the right thing. the majority. and right now, as far as i'm concerned, biden has a mandate. he won by 8 million votes.

we have the house, the senate, and the white house. and i think that he has to be given a chance to do what fdr and others who have taken that first 100 days and just go for it. because, first of all, none of us believe that he's going to do anything to hurt the country. all he's going to try to do is save lives, right off the bat. so let's let him do that. do not get in the way of that. and that means people being able to have money and all of the ---ion, not being evicted from their homes, everything else that needs to happen right now. and then, we'll see how we need -- we need a national health care system. not like the one we have now. this never should have happened. i don't want to put it all on trump, but i will. but, seriously, i mean, this is a mess right now. i am scheduled to go get my vaccine next week, and i'm thinking, wait a minute, i've just seen the mayor and the governor saying, they're going to hand out the second vaccines for the people who have already had their first, they're going

to hand them out now. well, wait a minute, why would i go get my first vaccine next week if i need to get the second one in three weeks, it's not there. so what am i going to have to do? go get another first vaccine? it's so confusing to people. all of us must get vaccinated. all of us must wear a mask. if we all join in this together, one for all and all for one, we're going to save ourselves. and we're not going to have to watch our parents and grandparents pass away before their time. but that is, i know, i know everyone has the conversation in their families. there's a lot of disagreement. i'm going to right now bet on a large number of people that voted for trump are going to want to live and they're going to want their parents to live. and they're going to want their kids to go back to school, kids who have lost a whole year now. and they really never catch up or recover in the way that they should. it's very serious. we all want the same things here. so now that the majority have elected this and please get rid

of the filibuster. it is not democracy when you have a filibuster. winning is called 50% plus 1, right? >> yeah. that's the majority. >> if the score in the baseball game, at the end of the game is 6-5, who wins? the one with six. you don't say, oh, no, no, they have to score 8. it has to be 8-5. says who?! . we don't -- we in our daily lives, we don't see the sense in this, in anything you could put this filibuster idea to. it's 50 plus 1, that's it. and -- you know, don't you remember back in the old days when they used to filibuster. for the young people, a filibuster meant a senator could stand up and talk for he or she -- usually he -- wanted to and they could hold up the vote, for as long as they could. the human body can stand in one place without food or water, i think, for two days, maybe, maybe three, i don't know.

and then they would collapse and that would be the end of the filibuster. or 60 senators could vote and say, that's the end. we're not going to let you collapse on the floor here. that's what a filibuster was. and you just had to wait out the couple of days. but then the democrats came along, i don't know when this was, during clinton or whatever, and the republicans said, no, no, no, if they don't have 60 votes, it doesn't count. no, you need 51 votes. if you want to filibuster, go ahead. we'll just sit here and play checkers. >> it's always interesting when the shoe is on one foot and it has is to be transferred to the other. my producer told me in my ear that you wanted to say something about hank aaron and some connection. >> oh, yes. a few months ago i was telling some friends, they said, who would you like to meet when you haven't met when the pandemic is over. and i said, hank aaron, and they said, well, wow, why? and i said, have you ever looked at what happened on the day you were born? the actual day you were born? >> oh! >> i looked this up.

hank aaron hit his first, his very first major league baseball home run in the hour i was born. >> that's cool. >> in the hour that i was born. and i've thought for some time, geez, i would love to just meet him. because it's not like -- you know, it was a coincidence, right, there was no connection, truly, between him being able to his his home run and me entering -- me landing on earth. >> yes. >> had nothing to do with it. >> but that would be cool. >> it would have been cool. >> yeah. >> but now, what i'll do is, you know, he was out there working that georgia runoff race just a few weeks ago. >> and getting his covid shot -- i mean, he was trying to lead by example. yeah, he was a remarkable man. we're going to miss him. >> and what he had to put up with. >> i'm a huge major league baseball fan and i'll also add, it was heartbreaking for me because you may have heard about

the passing of don sutton, the voice of the atlanta braves, and i'll put a shout-out there, because he was married to a very dear friend of mine. and i got to know don -- >> i'm so sorry. >> i have the most extraordinary recollection of don sutton when my young son was really interested in baseball and he was a pitcher. and don came to play, when he came to do the voice of the atlanta braves on tbs and they were playing against the mets in the old shea stadium, he gave a pitching lesson to my son, throwing him how to throw his famous curveball. such a gift as a memory. >> and he was so supportive ive supportive back in the day of hank and of ending racism and being a better country. >> yeah, yeah. >> i'm glad you mentioned his name. we've lost so many good people in this last year. and i want this -- i want all of this to end. >> amen to that. >> and thank you for having dr. fauci on.

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right after joe biden was sworn in on wednesday, take a look at what happened on the southern border. explosions in the mountains of arizona. border wall contractors carrying out blasting operations, blowing up pristine regions like this one in guadalupe canyon. president biden on day one signed a proclamation, ordering a pause on construction, but it gave contractors up to seven days to stop working. joining me now, rick su, professor of government and immigration law at the university of north carolina. professor, thank you for joining me, sir. was this a mistake? this seven-day window, i guess, on president biden's part? i mean, why not order to stop it immediately? >> i think the seven days is good. within it is this opportunity to do some research, do some looking around and gives some people some notice, right? a lot of these things can't be stopped immediately. but i think the seven days, as the order says, shouldn't go beyond that, right? so definitely, i think there is a clear termination, and then a series that should be done to

determine ways going to happen going forward. >> let me add to this, because the photographer that shot this video says hedoing the coronadol forest yesterday. that, sir, is a reserve, as you know. in fact, that reserve goes back to the 1500s. does president biden have leverage to end contracts where work has already started or are his hands tied on any of this? >> no, he has full power to terminate these contracts. it's as a matter of law, as congress has enacted. and also a provision in these statutes. he can terminate for convenience and oftentimes governments can do so for policy reasons, which is going to happen here. i'm also not surprised that contractors are now rushing, in some ways. once these contracts get terminated, there's going to be a settlement for work that they've done. i can also see these seven days and the lead up to the inauguration that contractors will be very interested in doing as much as they can in order to up the settlement costs that they'll be able to claim for the government. >> nbc news reported that the

outgoing administration really tried to sabotage biden's immigration plans by signing deals, giving states power to delay the biden agenda by at least six months. is that legal? >> yeah. this is unprecedented and i can't see any court enforcing it. there are all sorts of legal problems with this. it's not clear that the department of homeland security has been given the delegated authority to bind the federal government this way. also, we don't do things through contracts. right? we make policies through statutes, through delegated powers, through rules and regulations. the fact that they're using contracts here is clearly a way of -- well, what they're doing is they're clearly sending them a political road map for how these sort of challenges to the biden administration is going to go forward. but as a legal matter, i don't see how this would be enforceable. >> here's another one, among the memos that president biden signed on wednesday was the one to preserve and fortify daca, of course, the deferred action for childhood arrivals. can states now object to this?

can they continue deportations? >> yeah, so, now, states don't do the deportations themselves, right? so they don't have that power and they can't assume that power and the supreme court is very clear on it. on the other hand, are they going to challenge it? i think, definitely, it? definitely. during the obama administration we had states challenging dapa and daca. i suspect going forward if dhaka were to be done they're going to raise those challenges. there's a lot of politics behind it. it does suggest that, you know, if congress acts, then all of this is gone, right? we're sort of stuck in this because we've been doing executive order immigration policy for the last sort of 8, 12 years if you will. >> professor ricks from unc, join me again. >> we have breaking news on the

passing of broadcasting legend. larry king died today after recently being diagnosed with covid-19 but no cause of death has been given. nbc's kevin tibbles looks back at king's admiral and storied career. >> good evening. >> reporter: for more than 50 years on television and radio. >> indianapolis, hello. >> reporter: the famous and the infamous. >> it was a very traumatic experience. >> reporter: they all opened up to larry king. >> good-bye. >> reporter: my number one motto, i never learned anything when i was talking. >> reporter: born in brooklyn in 1933, young larry zeiger dreamed of a career in radio. he chose king from a liquor store. >> radio show and bobby darren walked in, jimmy hoffa walked in. >> arrested in 1971 for grand larceny, king was acquitted and

returned to radio originally broadcasting his call in show nationwide. >> welcome to "larry king live." >> reporter: in 1985 ted turner lured him to the fledgling cnn. >> any personal regrets? >> reporter: where he became the network's biggest draw reaching more than 1 million people each night. >> we can stop that without nafta and we can stop that with a good nafta. >> how do you stop that? >> reporter: his 1993 nafta debate was viewed by 11 million, setting a new record for a cable broadcast. king said his secret was not to over prepare. >> it was the number one show in television, larry. do you know who i am? >> reporter: bragged he never read the books his guests promoted. >> what i worry about is when i think i know too much. the day i go into a studio saying i've asked all the questions and learned all the answers. >> reporter: in 2010 he was replaced with piers morgan. >> for now, for here it's time

to hang up the nightly suspenders. >> reporter: rather than retire he took his show to the internet and later russian broadcaster r.t. >> i just want to make sure that the election is 100% fair. >> reporter: a lifelong dodgers fan, king survived a heart attack in 1987 and was married eight times to several different women. >> i never thought this is strange. in fact, i used to think if people were married for a long time, they were strange. >> reporter: larry king hoped to be remembered as a good father and an interviewer who added to the knowledge of the world. kevin tibbles, nbc news. >> he was a die hard dod ger fan. i saw him many a time around the station. larry king passed away this morning at cedar sinai in los angeles. larry king, dead at the age of 87. liberty mutual customizes your home insurance,

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