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good evening, and welcome to "politics nation." tonight's lead, morning in america. tomorrow, we start the first full week of the biden/harris era, and with that, this new administration can finally settle down to the urgent business facing the nation, at least in theory. but the past four years won't stay in the rear-view just yet. at this moment, house speaker nancy pelosi is expected to send an article of impeachment to the
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senate minority and senate majority leader chuck schumer tomorrow, setting off the countdown until donald trump's second impeachment trial begins in two weeks. the timing could give president biden some latitude in this pivotal first month of his tenure. the nation can only hope it will be enough, because right now, nearly 16 million americans are unemployed, and 17 million children are going hungry. and the pandemic surge continues alongside the logistical hurdles of getting the vaccine to communities that need it most, and by that, yes, i'm referring to the black community, which has been disproportionately ravaged by covid for the last year. and yet, still managed to hand joe biden his campaign breakthrough, but not in iowa or
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new hampshire. but starting with black democrats in south carolina and ending in georgia, where years of organizing by black women gave mr. biden an earth-shattering wind and a democratic senate majority to shore it up. and as the nation girds for the next impeachment trial, remember, the tide breaking vote will come from a black woman just inches from the oval office, for now. joining me now is the chair of the congressional black caucus, representative joyce beatty of ohio. thank you for being with us, madam chairperson. >> thank you so much, reverend al, for having me. it's always good to be with you. >> now, i want to give you some time to talk about the congressional black caucus' priorities in the new congress. but if you know like i do,
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protecting voter access for people of color is one of those priorities, and i'm sure you know it better than me, as the chair person. we knew after georgia that republicans would return to the drawing board as far as voter suppression tactics. and you have this from politico today. saying state level gops are looking at new voter restrictions specifically in georgia where republicans want to attack the absentee voting that largely handed the state to joe biden and gave those senate races to democrats. now, as republicans push for these new restrictions, how will the cbc push back? >> well, thank you for that. certainly, we wealize that after all of the work that many of our partners and advocated, including the national action network, worked with us to fight against voter suppression, so as we look at legislation, as we work with our state legislatures, you know that they
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do the reapportionment and redistricting in the general assemblies across the state. so we're going to be strong with forming partnerships now. it's one of our top priorities. when we look at many of the things in the john lewis voting rights act, when we look at other legislation that we're going to be actively participating in. we have also forged our own domestic policy leadership team, and that's at the top of it, as we develop policies and as we develop internal and external partners to help us in this fight. we saw what happened in georgia when we band together, and we fought together. we had a victory, so we're ready for a win. >> i had your predecessor with me here last night, former chair of the cbc, cedric richmond. he's now senior adviser in the biden white house. i want to play a little bit of what he had to say about the challenges of not only getting
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the vaccine to the black community but getting around decades of distrust in medicine in those communities. take a listen. >> i wanted to answer the questions that i hear when i go to the barber shop, the distrust, it dates back to the tuskegee experiment. i just want all of the population, especially populations that have a distrust for government, to understand that we're serious about this. we're telling them the truth. and that this is the best way to not only protect themselves but to protect their parents, their grandparents, and get us out of this slump of an economy that we're in and get kids back to school. and beat this. >> so your reaction to that? because i think that you and i both know there are many that are skeptical, particularly in the black community, given the history about the vaccine, and on the other hand, there's not been an equal distribution of
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the vaccine to those in the black community that want to take it. we are hearing all kinds of problems and stories about that all over the country. >> well, i agree with everything that former congressman cedric richmond and my dear friend said. we must speak truth to power. we know what happened in the tuskegee syphilis experiment. we know that we are affected disproportionately and the disparities and mistrust, so one of the things we're calling for is more education and awareness in those barbershops and beauty shop neighborhoods we talked about. but it's across the board. i'm very fortunate that our national news today, dr. roberts, our african-american sister, who speaks the same language, said to us we have to educate better. we have to set examples. because we also know that we don't have enough doses of the vaccine in many of our communities. we're not in all of the clinical trials. so we have to be out there in
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full force, so we're calling on our divine nine groups, we're calling on hbc graduates, to get out and educate. that's one track, reverend al. on the other track, we have to be strong and forceful and demanding that some of the covid-19 dollars come back into our communities where we can give moneys to radio stations, to black tv stations, so they can put the message out for our communities. >> in line with that, i also had dr. anthony fauci here on the show last night. and i ran this alarming statistic by him that nbc picked up from the kaiser foundation this week. finding that of about 3% of americans that have been vaccinated, black americans are significantly behind. and many cases, two to three times less likely to be vaccinated compared to white residents. that's from 16 states that have
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released racial data on the vaccine's distribution. what's your reaction to that? >> it's the same on disparities. we always run short when it comes to black americans or black communities. and that's where we're going to be more forceful as we're looking at what's happening. when we look at how states -- ohio, arizona, california, so we have written to dr. fauci already. our second vice president, congresswoman brenda lyons from michigan, this week we will be putting together a panel of black physicians and scientists speaking directly to our communities, because it's all about education awareness. it's putting an investment in our communities and making sure that when you talk about essential workers, those over 75 years of age and 80, who look like you are in those numbers to get the vaccine.
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>> so your priority is dealing with voting and dealing with the vaccine as well as education. i'm out of time, but what are the other priorities that you are looking to lead the cbc in? >> let me quickly say, obviously, covid-19, economics. 41% of black businesses are in turmoil, and also the injustices we're facing. we'll still be pushing the george floyd justice in policing act, education, and cleaning up our environment. the environmental justice. so we have a full plan. i want to come back, reverend al, so we can roll it out for you. >> all right, you definitely will be coming back, and we're definitely looking forward to that rollout. congresswoman joyce beatty, thank you for your time tonight, madam chairlady. >> joining me now, let me come home to new york. he's the democratic congressman, freshman congressman, jamal
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bowman. thank you for being with us, congressman, and certainly thank you for being available to us any time we call. the first piece of legislation that you introduced was the coup act. creating a national commission to investigate the events at the capitol on january 6th. now, why is this bill so important? and do you think about the reports that the fbi is considering not charging some of the insurrectionists, what do you think about that? >> it's unacceptable. anyone who stepped foot in the capitol must be charged. this is an act of war. this was an act of war waged against the american people and against the united states congress. not having a judicial system that's prepared to deal with the 800 indictments that will come is unacceptable. we need to make sure the
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resources are available to hold the people accountable who enter congress on this horrible, horrible day. and we introduced the coup act because we finally need to take a thorough look at capitol police and the potential connection between capitol police and white nationalist groups and individuals. and we're not just looking at capitol police. we're looking at the fbi, we're looking at the department of homeland security. and we're looking at the secret service. and since we have introduced a bill, reports have come out that white nationalists are a part of our law enforcement. both locally and nationally. and they're a part of our military industrial complex. so this is unacceptable. the response during the insurrection was unacceptable, both prior to and during. we had intelligence that an attack may take place.
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we did not share that intelligence. we weren't prepared, and thank god the results weren't more dire. so the coup act is absolutely necessary in this moment. >> now, were you also looking to whether or not members of congress or senior staff helped two of them, some of the insurrectionists, possibly, the day before the january 6th march and insurrection took place? >> absolutely. so i'm a cosponsor of my colleague cori bush's bill, which is looking at who was responsible from the republican side of the aisle in aiding and abetting some of the insurrectionists. we know that some of our colleagues were tweeting, live tweeting the attack, things like today is 1776. live tweeting the fact that speaker pelosi was ushered off the house floor and into hiding.
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when you see that type of behavior, as well as republicans who continue to push back against the electoral college results, even after the insurrection, we must investigate, we must look at who in congress might have been involved and they must be held accountable. >> some people, congressman, are calling you the first male member of the squad. and another congressional freshman, cori bush, recently appeared together in a magazine photo with the four original members who were elected in 2018. how can the growing number of young lawmakers of color make an impact on congress in the next coming years? >> well, i think we have already made an impact. if it wasn't for the original squad, i probably would have not run for office in the first place. you know, this was the first time in my life that i saw
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members of congress leading and speaking truth to power on the issues that matter most to me. so the impact has already been made. it's continuing to grow. the squad is just not six people in congress. the squad is the entire nation who are inspired by the work that we do each and every day. so it's already in effect. and we're already working with our colleagues and the biden administration to make sure that president biden has a diverse cabinet, has a progressive cabinet, and that's why i'm supporting ms. garandaron to be the next comptroller, it's a position that deals with wealth and equality in the country, and her scholarship in this area is just profound. let's hope we can get her
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appointed in the next several days. >> that's a very important position that you made this nomination for. thank you for being with us, congressman jamaal bowman, and thank you again for always being available. >> coming up, the brief pitiful history of the so-called 1776 project. and the republicans who embraced it. but first, my colleague richard lui with today's other top news stories. >> a ver good day to you. some of the stories we're watching. confirmed cases of covid-19 in the u.s. have now surpassed 25 million. the death toll is now over 419,000. the biden administration today announcing new travel restrictions as a result for noncitizens who recently went to south africa. also reinstating bans on travel from the uk, ireland, and most of europe that the trump administration recently lifted. pfizer and the fda advise health care workers they can squeeze an
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extra dose of covid-19 vaccine out of each pfizer vial. a special syringe is needed to extract that sixth dose before they thought vials held only five. pfizer plans to count that dose to its previous commitment of delivering 200 million doses by july, so health care workers will get fewer vials. and godiva will shut all brick and mortar stores by april 1st. they say closures are due to a sharp drop in sales during the pandemic. more "politics nation" right after the break. ight after the break. u know what thin ordered? a backache. consider pain, delivered. pain says you can't. advil says you can.
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going to give you a real history lesson about some fake history lesson. there are petulantly named 1776 commission, and the republicans who supported it.
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this trump administration dreamed up the commission as a clap back to "the new york times" pulitzer prize winning 1619 project. named for the first year enslaved africans were brought to these shores. the times project drew upon a considerable amount of actual historical research to point out that while our founders wrote soaring proclamations about freedom and equality, they also held other human beings in bondage, and that the birth of our country was inextricably linked to the institution of slavery. while most reasonable americans can accept the early american leaders could be both geniuses and hypocrites, some conservatives wanted history to be more black and white, well, maybe just white. so president trump commissioned his own study to dispute the very concept of racism in
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america. and i'm sure you can imagine it didn't go well. gallingly released on martin luther king day, the so-called report was a mess from top to bottom. and didn't even include one single historian among his authors. a 40-page screed riddled with bad faith arguments and large parts of it were literally cut and pasted from contributors' early work without any citation. it's hard to imagine anyone thought an effort this lazy was going to change the course of the historical research, but it certainly reflected the attitudes of the trump administration. in a farewell tweet last week, former secretary of state mike pompeo claimed that, quote, wokism, multiculturalism, all the isms, they are not who america is, end of quote. not exactly i have a dream.
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so the 1776 commission was born on a day meant to honor dr. king, at the behest of a man who 12 days earlier had encouraged a violent insurrection to overturn the votes of millions of african-americans and died unceremoniously just two days later, when joe biden was sworn in as president and the commission's report was removed from the white house website. participants in the project say its findings will live on servers provided by the conservative heritage foundation. but you can be quite sure that when mlk day rolls around next year, no one, not even republicans, will be quoting from the 1776 commission on its anniversary. already, it has been relegated to the dust bin of history. but you can bet those former trump supporters will once again
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be quoting dr. king. this monday, while republicans who supported the 1776 commission were tweeting out empty platitudes about martin luther king jr., his daughter, reverend bernice, took them all to task, reminding them, quote, many who quote him now and evoke him to deter justice today would likely hate the authentic king. that's a historical truth that cannot be denied. i gotcha. i gotcha
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when the trump white house released its 1776 commission report on martin luther king day, criticism came from all corners. historians widely dismissed the report, intended to be used in schools, as full of errors and partisan politics. joining me now is assistant
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professor of political science at stanford university's center for race and ethnicity, huh keek jefferson. thank you for being with us, professor jefferson. >> thank you for having me, reverend. >> now, when the so-called report was released, you didn't pull any punched, tweeting, quote, the 1776 commission is not about defending the greatness of the american founding. it's about defending the perceived greatness and infallibility of whiteness. that's your quote. can you elaborate on that point? >> yeah, i think we saw this commission report not as a historical document, but we saw it for what it was, right? it was this document that was meant to make white people feel good about themselves. and that's what i meant in that tweet. we know from social science research that white folks don't like it when they're forced to
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engage the negative aspects of whiteness. they have to recall the oppression of racial and ethnic minorities and namely black people, so the commission's report, which almost literally whitewashes american history, is meant to make white people feel good. >> that's why it was interesting to me, when we saw last summer young whites pulling down slave master statues, that some whites are beginning to say we have to be honest about this, which is part of why trump came up with this commission. and in the report, they actually say, well, slavery was going on all over the world, they kind of minimized slavery here. and said that the constitutional statement that blacks were three fifths of a man was a necessary act to save the union. i mean, it's outrageous stuff in
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this report. >> you're right. i had my undergrad research assistant read the report really carefully. one of the things that was most jarring is this attempt to make slavery sound good by putting it into some ahistorical context, perhaps, by saying it was at a time when bad things were happening all over the world, so the fact that slavery was happening in the u.s. through our eyes might look bad, but this was happening alongside a lot of bad stuff, as though that makes slavery look better. we should always be suspicious of folks who go to great lengths to make the enslavement of african-american people sound like a good people. >> while the report has been pulled off the white house website by the biden administration, just a couple days ago when they took over, it's likely to find new life in homeschool curriculum and
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christian academy. as a professor, how often do you find students show up to college being taught these kind of erroneous and white supremacist versions of american history? >> i see it as one of the great tasks of folks like me who are lucky enough to stand in front of undergraduate students. not to brainwash, but to give them the truth. and as i have said before, i think one of our key tasks is to speak plainly and tell the truth. and that's what i try to do as a professor in a classroom with students who are impressionable, students who are coming to learn the truth of america's history and its present, so as i'll be teaching an intro to american politics class in the next couple months, my task is to tell students the truth about american history, to push against some of the lessons that they may have gotten either in home school or here at stanford and many of the high schools they have attended. >> i'm out of time, but i have
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to mention, you also wrote the january 6th insurrection saying, quote, do not simply come in defense of donald trump. they come in defense of white supremacy. it's a topic that could fill several books, but what are your key takeaways of the racial dynamics of that event? >> i'm so glad you're giving me an opportunity to talk about this piece i wrote for fivethirtyeight. and when we look at the insurrection that happened on the 6th, there are many folks who will make the argument what we observed is about misinformation, about political polarization, but as you and i know, you can't look at the january 6th insurrection and not being thinking about whiteness and the design to maintain white supremacy and white dominance. so what we observe with these folks at the capitol is what happens when white people begin to perceive that they are losing
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status, that their position in the social hierarchy is becoming more preparious, and this is the most violent manifestation of those concerns, but we see them in more muted, perhaps, ways. we see it in white people's support for president trump. all of this is about maintaining white power, white dominance, and what happens is they're seeing the country browning, and people of color ascend the social hierarchy, it makes white people nervous. this kind of manifestation at the capitol is what happens when white people become anxious about that position. >> i'm going to leave it there. thank you, professor jefferson. i think you're right. that's why the new generation of young whites that understand partnership and coexistence was so encouraging last summer. but we must see where it goes. from racial insensitivity to lack of true diversity, as congress begins its second week,
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new members in both the house and the senate are quickly hiring staffers who were two thirds of all positions filled, the lack of diversity within top staff roles has left much concern. with me now is spencer overton, the president of the joint center for political and economic studies. thank you for being with us, spencer. >> reverend sharpton, thank you for your leadership. >> thank you. joint center research has found although people of color make up 40% of the population in this country, only 14% of the top congressional staff are people of color. the current congress is increasingly more diverse than it was in the past, so why doesn't the staff hiring reflect this? >> it's a real problem, rev. and it's a bipartisan problem. while democrats have more
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diversity than republicans, both parties have low numbers. for example, black people account for about 20% of democratic voters nationwide, but only about 5% of democratic senate top staff. communities of color are not just pawns to mobilize on election day. people from all communities in america must be fully included throughout the policy making process if our new leaders are serious about dismantling structural inequality, they have to diversify top staff, because these are the positions that draft laws, that oversee 3 million federal employees and shape the $5 trillion federal budget. >> that's where i wanted to go, because explain how the lack of diversity impacts legislation and what is dealt with on the hill. >> well, if we think about just legislation that's not tailored for communities of color, issues like ppp, which wasn't tailored to serve black businesses and failed black businesses during the pandemic.
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so we really need people who are there, who understand, who can really help policy reflect the needs of all americans. >> now, your team at joint research found that one third of top staff positions have yet to be filled. what do you hope will be done to insure that those remaining positions go to diverse candidates? >> that's right, so right now is a key moment to increase staff diversity. these newly elected members still have about 40 open top staff spots to fill, and you know, they have even got more midlevel spots like legislative assistants. in fact, research by the joint center's dr. brenton shows about 40% of midlevel positions are still unfilled. also, there are a lot of hill spots opening up as the current congressional staff leave to take spots in the new biden administration. in terms of actions, right now
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while the spots are still open on the hill, everyone should call their u.s. representatives and senators and tell them to prioritize diversity in hiring, developing, and promoting staff. people should also tell their u.s. senators to set up a bipartisan senate diversity office. you'll remember that two years ago, speaker nancy pelosi set up a house diversity office when she became speaker, and now that chuck schumer's majority leader, he should do the same thing in the senate. >> all right, we're going to be following this up with you. thank you, spencer overton, for being with us. >> coming up, new year, same problems. a black man shot and killed by texas police during a mental health check. we'll hear about the calls for action from patrick warren's son and family and his attorney next. best burger in every zip code? add an employee. or ten... then easily and automatically pay your team and file payroll taxes. that means... world domination! or just the west side. run payroll in less
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we're now two months into this new year, and -- or not even a week into the new administration, and yet i'm covering another police shooting death of an unarmed american. the family of patrick warren, sr. insisting they did not call for an armed policeman in killeen, texas, but in killeen, texas, an officer earlier this month came when a 52-year-old had what warren's son has called
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a mental health episode. body camera footage of the incident released this week showed a tense encounter that resulted in warren being shot three times after the officer's tasing failed to subdue him. off camera, a man's voice heard screaming, quote, i told you not to use a gun. joining me now is s. lee merit, a civil rights attorney representing the warren family, and patrick warren's son, patric warren jr., and he's got his grandson with him in the shot. why don't you tell our viewers around the world what exactly happened, and why you see this both from the lens of many of the cases you fought, racism and mental health. >> quite simply, we had a man in his home who was in a mental health crisis. he was having a difficult time
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adjusting. the family was trying to understand his mental health crisis, so they called for help. they called for two days straight. they called on saturday, and they received the appropriate mental health resources for the city of killeen, texas, which is a sheriff's department that has resources available for people undergoing mental health crisis. they received the service they needed, and pat survived on saturday. the following day, on sunday, killeen police department sent out one of their trained killers. and i have to call it a trained killer because they have no methods to deal with persons in mental health crisis. unlike the officer from the day before, they virtually escalated this encounter to mr. warren being shot in front of his family four times. it's not only a tragedy, it's predictable and can be resolved. >> patrick, first, you have our condolences. you and your family called the first day and again the second day because your father was
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going through an episode. but is it correct, as we have been told, that you did not want an armed officer, you wanted someone to deal with the mental health episode? >> yes, sir, that's correct. we didn't call police this day. we actually reached out to a mental health resource officer. and they never told us that one wasn't available. they just sent out a killeen police officer. >> and when this officer showed up armed, what was the reaction of the family, and how did this escalate to the point of him being shot several times? >> the officer walked through the door, he saw my father. i'm holding my godson the same way i was when he walked in the door, so i encountered him first. i ihey, my father, he's going through something. please no firearms was the first thing i said to him. i felt like he ignored me. he was just focused on my father. and then, he backed out sxdz,
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hey, i don't do business like this. slammed the door. went outside, and i guess he just kind of waited in the yard. from that point -- >> al, i'm going to interrupt. i'm going to interrupt pat going too far into the facts, but the officer arrived not prepared to deal with someone in mental health crisis. he didn't recognize the signs. he didn't do what the officer did the day before, which was simply sit and speak with mr. warren and get him to a treatment facility. instead, he escalated it into some sort of war-like tactical position outside of his door. >> so attorney, and i appreciate you don't want him to testify on television because you have to deal with legal proceedings, but in essence, when he backed out of the door, he could have called for somebody that deals with health, as they had come the day before, not stand there and wait on what escalated into a confrontation that he ended up
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shooting an unarmed man. >> that's correct. he observed the manic man or a man he described as manic within the home, and instead of de-escalating the situation, he backed out and took a tactical position. he didn't -- he heard sirens in the background, so he didn't wait for backup. he didn't take a position behind the car, if he thought he had a weapon, when he clearly didn't. this was a man in his pajama bottoms and a white t-shirt, showing his hands the whole time. this is something we have seen in the case of damian daniels, an iraq war veteran shot to death on his front lawn, buried on september 11th, and i thank you for reaching out to that family and comforting them. there was another war veteran who is undergoing a mental health crisis killed in pennsylvania. there's steven taylor in california, who the officer was indicted because of the change in the use of force statute in california bill in alameda
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county. there's darrius tarver in texas. we just recognized one year since the murder of darrius tarver, who was a member of the black officers of law enforcement, the black law association, and who wanted to stop this war. they turned the war, a war on black communities. it's a war on people suffering mental health crisis. this is a culminating point. this is something we'll see again if we don't stop it right now. >> i think one of the reasons i take interest in this case is not only dealing with another unarmed man killed, but the mental health issue is something that as we have this new administration, they have to deal with clear federal guidelines on how we deal with mental health episodes, because we're seeing this, as you just named, a litany of cases. we have seen this all over the communities, but we see it
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differently in how they handle mental health episodes in our communities, black communities and other communities, and this is of concern to me. >> that's exactly it, reverend sharpton. that's something you and i have fought side by side for. we want equal justice in our communities, so we don't want our families criminalized for mental health problems. we don't want them criminalized even if they have drug addictions. we need to stop this so-called war on drugs that only effectively plays out on a war on black and brown communities. we know this was a tactic of the past and there were real concerns about violence and drugs in the inner cities, but the answer was never going to be more men with guns. we had men with guns and that was part of the problem. we need resources. we need health care workers. we need hospitals. we need the same kind of response that the suburbs are given for the so-called opioid crisis. this is a mental health crisis. we launched
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mentalhealthcrisis.com and you can learn more about this case and other cases where you can push back and push biden and the new administration to come up with specific policies, as you mentioned, within the dhs, even beyond the civil rights community. >> we'recommunity. >> we'll keep following these things up. thank you. thank you. our condolences to you patrick warren junior. thank you for being here. >> thank you. up next, my final thoughts. stay with us. next, my final ths stay with us
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my colleague picks up our news coverage now. thank you. tonight back to future. in just hours the house sends its article of impeachment to the senate. what happens then? what will mitch mcconnell do? plus trump's base and hit list. new report on his last ditch effort to keep gop senators in line. the lingering question of how to pull the radical right back to reality. the answer may depend on the future of q. breaking news on the pandemic. new international travel restrictions set to be announced monday. a daca recipients quest to stay many this country. welcome to "american voices." we begin on the cusp of donald trump's second trial. with even more details about just how far he went to hang onto the