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on our constitutional government. the opposite of conservative. it is radical. >> and there you have it, the lincoln project to take us off of the air this evening. that is our broadcast for this tuesday night. thank you for being here with us. on behalf of all of the men and the women on the networks of nbc news, good night. we do have a lot to get to tonight, including my interview with the brand-new chairman of the democratic party, one of the perks of being elected president is that your party lets you basically pick who you want to lead your party, your national party while you are in office. joe biden has made his choice to lead the democratic party. jamie harrison as the new chair of the democratic party.
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jamie harrison will join us tonight for the interview. jamie harrison has been a friend of the show. has been incredibly kind to me in my coverage of south carolina politics, helping me to cover south carolina politics in the past. i will tell you my personal opinion. i think he is incredibly smart and incredibly talented and now running the democratic party nationwide and i am really looking forward to hearing from him in terms of how he views that job. that interview is coming up tonight. just in the last hour on "all in with chris hayes" we had remarkable news. hakeem jeffries of new york telling chris tonight here on msnbc that he is the person described as congressman 1 in a quite scary court document unsealed today in the southern district of new york. a federal criminal complaint charging a 35-year-old man from california with threatening, not
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just threatening congressman hakeem jeffries but threatening him by threatening him to physically harm his family. trying to intimidate congressman jeffries by threatening to kill his family members in new york. the fbi and federal prosecutors say that the same man also in similar ways targeted the family of a prominent journalist as well. the "new york times" is reporting tonight the journalist in question is george stephanopoulus. the man has been arrested and charged that sent the threatening messages because he was "dissatisfied with the results of the 2020 presidential election and subsequent statements made by the congressman and the journalist." the defendant allegedly threatened to harm the individual's families demanding they retract their statements.
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congressman jeffries on "all in" described to chris hayes those threats. >> what was chilling in the message that was received is that this individual said stop telling lies. biden did not win. he will not be president. so he was radicalized by the big lie that donald trump told and that has been supported by so many republicans in the house and the senate. >> congressman jeffries, identified himself as congressman-1 in this criminal complaint unsealed today by federal prosecutes. he is describing there what this criminal complaint alleges and indicates about how this man who threatened his family was radicalized. radicalized by president trump and republicans big lie that the
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presidential election really wasn't won by president biden and somehow magically president trump will still be president. but the actual nature of the actions this man took, the ways that he decided to act and to attack the government and to attack the press in response to that lie is very chilling. this is an affidavit from an fbi special agent that recounts the threats made to his brother. to his family. listen to this. on or about january 11th the office of congressman 1 informed the fbi on or about january 6th jeffries' brother received the following text messages including a picture of a home in the same neighborhood where congressman jeffries' brother
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lived. your brother is putting your entire family at risk with his lies. we are armed and nearby your house. you better have a word with him. we are not far from his house either. already spoke to jeffries' son. we know where his kids are. your words have consequences. stop telling lies. biden did not win. he will not be presidents. we are not white supremacists. most are active law enforcement or military. you are putting your family at risk. we have armed members near your home. don't risk your safety with your words and lies. accompanying the text message is a picture of a home in the same neighborhood, nearby to where congressman jeffries' brother lives. he is receiving these messages and getting a picture of one of his neighbor's houses. fbi special agent in the affidavit, the basis of the criminal complaint now charging
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robert lemke of california with threatening interstate communications. on or about january 6th, congressman 1, the wife of jeffries' brother exchanged the following messages with the lemke phone. calm your husband down. victim 2, congressman's sister-in-law. who is this. your number is only coming up, not your name. >> does that matter? we saw on the hidden camera. he was quite stirred up. you need to have him talk to congressman jeffries. thanks. on the hidden camera? the complaint goes on to discuss the same defendant's threats to a journalist not named in the complaint but according to the times it is what the times is reporting. now back to the complaint. it says "on or about january 6th, while the capitol attack is happening while in the bronx,
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new york, a relative of journalist one received the following message from the lemke phone. putting you and your family at risk. we are nearby, armed and ready. thousands are active/retired law enforcement and military. that is how we do it. the complaint goes on to quote what is believed to be the facebook page. folks, be ready for war. trump refused to cede. evidence shows fraud occurred and the supreme court cases will be successful and trump will prevail. faith my fellow republicans. do not give up. keep an eye out for a variety of protests. i will add the "new york times" is adding a spokesman for the sheriff's department in northern california and the united states air force which this gentleman claims to have worked at both entities. claims to be an air force
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veteran. both alameda county sheriff and u.s. air force have no record of him working or serving in either of those places. that is how he represented himself. we are active or retired law enforcement and military. that is how we do it. the implication is we have access to firearms and tactical knowledge we would need in order to kill you or family members but probably get away with it. i think that is the implication of the threat there. these threatening text messages to congressman jeffries' family saying that i know where your kids are. we are just outside. we are armed. we are ex-military and law enforcement. we have hidden cameras in your home. we are watching you right now. we are just outside with guns and we are going to kill you unless your congressman relative or journal. >> relative starts to say what we want them to.
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this is also what was happening in our country on january 6th, from the president's supporters. the other thing trump supporters were doing that day. there are a lot of ways to use force to overthrow the government. one is what we saw where the trump mob got through. another is threatening to kill the family members of members of congress as a means of trying to force the member of congress to do what you want. the further that we get from the attack on the capitol and the more details we learn and the more criminal cases brought against those involved, the heavier that day becomes. it may be that members of congress and the republican party and senators of the republican party think january 6th is now ancient history and we should move past it and there does not need to be consequences. as more people get arrested and we read more criminal complaints
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and indictments, the weight of what happened there and what was organized there is getting heavier and heavier. you will recall the case of the 22-year-old woman from pennsylvania charged with having a role in stealing a laptop or other computer equipment from house speaker nancy pelosi's office. the fbi affidavit filed in her case included an almost unbelievable allegation she had a plan to provide the laptop to somebody who she thought would be able to give it to russian intelligence. nancy pelosi's laptop or hard drives. last week after her court appointed defense counsel admitted she was part of the crowd that attacked the capitol on the 6th, we covered the unbelievable fact that she was released into her mother's custody and not kept in jail. this week prosecutors are back in court seeking new
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restrictions potentially on her release because they say they recently discovered since she has been out she has been trying to destroy evidence and encouraged others to do the same. from the hearing the prosecutor said we have some additional concern busy her use of the computer and the internet to destroy evidence. and charging people to do the same. we were aware she was deleting her online accounts and possibly switching devices in the original and amended complaint statement of facts. we learned that she might be telling, instructing other people to delete messages as well. today prosecutors told the judge about a specific instance of that defendant instructing an associate to delete messages. the judge decided the defendant will no longer have internet access. that is a changed condition of
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her release. the defendant claims her social media account has been hacked by a disgruntled ex-boyfriend and it explains all of this. it is not going well. what may be worse and more unnerving is that the laptop or the computer equipment apparently stolen from pelosi's office. they did have a laptop or computer equipment stolen during the capitol attack. that computer equipment hasn't been recovered. whether it was a laptop or hard drives or other computer components whatever was stolen from speaker pelosi's office while a witness said the witness planned to give it to russian intelligence, law enforcement, whether or not that ever happened law enforcement hasn't been able to recover the computer or the computer equipment that was stolen from pelosi. where is it? why is this person being released to the custody of her mother, especially if she already broke the conditions of
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her release? they are saying there could be seditious conspiracy charges brought as soon as next week and that prosecutors are looking at evidence closely and expects that it will bear fruit very soon. also charges now have been brought and it appears it is the first time it happened against somebody that spoke at one of the rallies leading up to the capitol attack. one of the speakers at a stop the steal rally the day before the riot and at the capitol on january th and charged with what he did there. urging people in the crowd to fight. people think that is an important context for the
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charges that he is now facing. that is where we are at. they are starting to arrest the people that spoke at the rallies before the capitol attack. the question is whether anybody will be charged for incitement or other connection to the violence. it is at the center of president trump's impeachment trial. are the people there with a microphone in their hand culpable for what the mob did after they were so inspired by those speakers and if they are it gets us to potential criminal charges against multiple public officials. when they announced they set up a strike force to consider potential sedition charges. that there would be a task force set up to look at sedition as a charge category. when he announced that he said
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amongst the prosecutors he was tapping to do that work were those with national security backgrounds and those with public corruption backgrounds. that is who is looking at the sedition charges. while we wait to see what kinds of further charges are in store for people involved in the capitol attack, the national guard will stay at the capitol for a while yet. i will tell you personally when i went to the capitol yesterday top interview chuck schumer in the senate, i knew about the military presence at the capitol grounds. but it was remarkable to see. we had the snake through armored personnel carriers to get to the places where they decided to park to do the interview with the majority leader going
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through lines of national guard to do an interview with a member of congress. the national guards men and women, it is not an easy deployment. it is something that was not set up long-term. giving them bathroom breaks and places to wash and change their clothes. the national guard at the capitol will be expended. 5,000 troops will now stay through march. and that is not because it is convenient and cheap to have that many national guardsmen in d.c. it is because the threats remain from the president's supporters.
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maybe the biden inauguration wasn't real. the real inauguration is the old date from the constitution before they changed it. the real inauguration will be on march 4th and donald trump is secretly still president. right. right. a new conspiracy theory that maybe the next thing they are going to do should be in the first week of march. before then the impeachment trial will be starting in a couple of weeks and there is reportedly enough threat and noise from violent trump supporters only that the impeachment trial itself might be the occasion for them to mount further attacks on the government and on members of congress, either as a group or individually one by one. deployment of thousands of armed u.s. troops.
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because the supporters of the former member might be mounting more attacks on the government. that comes today as the u.s. capitol police issued a remarkable apology for their failings as a police department on january 6th. the department knew there was a strong potential for violence and recognized that it was congress and failed to take adequate measures to prepare. the chief of police apologiing for not being able to protect the capitol and that they did prepare but not nearly enough for the scale and for the violence of the threat posed by president trump's supporters after being alleged on by the president to come to the
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capitol. as we continue to learn more and more about the january 6th attack, how serious and dangerous it was. as people face conspiracy charges. as it continues to be enough of a threat thousands of national guard troops with m4 rifles will stay in washington posted at the u.s. capitol for weeks to come. the republican party really doesn't care. for all of the peeps we got from mitch mcconnell that he was open to the idea of convicting president trump for inciting that attack, right. opining from the senate floor that the rioters were fed lies by the former president. quietly telling a lot of reporters he was quite appalled and ready to make a clean break and hope to convicting the
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president and barring him from office for life. for all of that noise today mitch mcconnell voted with 44 other republican senators there shouldn't even be an impeachment trial in this case. you will recall that it was mitch mcconnell who wouldn't allow an impeachment trial to start until donald trump left office. it was his decision and his alone. chuck schumer said more mcconnell if you and i agreed the senate can be brought back to start the trial that is all it requires. today he voted because donald trump is no longer president there can't be a trial. 45 republican senators said there shouldn't be a trial.
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forget it. yeah they stormed the capitol and tried to kill the vice president and speaker of the house and lots of us and went through all of our desks and had guns and tasers and bats. ransacked the place. you know, it was nearly three weeks ago. that is meaningless but no implication in terms of what will happen in terms of the former impeachment trial of donald trump. today all u.s. senators took their oaths to essentially serve their roles as what amounts to jurors in next month's trial. it was administered by patrick
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leahy, want president pro temp of the senate, the senior senator in the senate majority. he will be the one presiding over president trump's trial. we had a scare when we received word he had been taken to the hospital after not feeling well at his office. the senator looks forward to getting back to work as soon as tomorrow. we send the senator best wishes for a speedy recovery. as far as the trial that senator leahy will preside over, republicans don't think there should be a trial. they believe the president shouldn't be trialed while still
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in office and now he is president he can't be tried. now if you mount a violent attack on the u.s. government, including your supporters seemingly being bent on trying to kill the vice president and members of the house and the senate, depending on the timing it might be okay. they are really cool with this being what their party does right now. almost impossible to believe. that really is where they are. one of the new republican members of the house, marjorie taylor greene was publicly advocating for the execution of prominent democrats in this country including nancy pelosi who she suggested get a bullet in the head. no word on if it will impact greene's standing in the republican party. that is not weird for the republican party anymore. often when a party is voted out
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of power like the republicans were, they no longer hold the white house or the house or the senate. in normal politics you will see all of the headlines about the party in disarray. this is a very particular and peculiar form of disarray. this is what appears to still be a political party but they are not dealing with how to regroup and come back to the american people with a new case we should be governing. they are dealing with what we think of as a fringe violent criminal movement. it is right at the heart of what they are offering the country and taking great pains to make sure that the leader who drove them the fastest and the hardest in that direction can run as their standard bearer in 2024. that is more than a party in disarray.
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that is something where it is hard to have a stable democracy. what do we do about the members bringing guns on to the floor and what do we do about the outstanding president who mounted an armed attack on the capitol? should we make sure his followers are charged and that he comes back to run for president again in 2024? this is not politics, per se. this is a question about the viability of democracy if that is one of the two parties in this country. meanwhile, there is another major party in the country. on the other side we now have democrats in control of the house, senate and the white house. what they are contending with right now is they have all of this policy they would like to get done. they have a different challenge on their hands. we are now seeing in the past 48 hours their idea for how they are going to try to get stuff done for the country. what the two parties are dealing
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with internally, not like night and day. it is like earth and mars. but the democrats have their own challenges. they are how to pass their legislative agenda. last night in our interview with democratic leader chuck schumer he made news when he said democrats might have a way to pass the covid relief bill and biden's infrastructure bill with just 50 votes. each if the republicans filibuster everything, those two biggest pieces of legislation, they might have figured out a way to do them just with democratic votes. dick durbin saying they might have found a way to pass a new $15 minimum wage just with 50 democratic votes and the vice president. even if republicans filibuster and do everything they can to stop it. if they pass the covid relief and infrastructure and $15 minimum wage with republicans not able to stop it with the
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filibuster that would be quite a series of legislative accomplishments for a term, let alone the first month of a term. republicans are having their own biblical drama right now. their confidence and comfort level with violence against democracy being what they are offering this country as their option. all right. and while the republicans are doing that, democrats are coming up with all of the ways they can to try to move all of the policy things they want to do without the republicans. that is what is happening in congress. president biden is moving forward with a ton of executive actions. eliminating the zero tolerance policy leading to kids being separated from their parents at the southern border. we're still waiting to hear what the plan will be to reunite all
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of the kids with their families setting up a task force to get it done. the policy today eliminated at the stroke of a pen by president biden. president biden today also issuing multiple executive orders on racial equity, building it into everything the federal government does and made announcements about vaccines and that his administration believes it found a way to get 300 million americans vaccinated by the end of the summer. we are going to be talking about that more in detail. that is a big deal if they can pull it off. big picture, we are at this place right now where we are supposedly a two party, two major party democracy. that has been the source of stability and continuity in our democracy for centuries now. and we are now quite suddenly and clearly at this place where the two parties have totally different tasks at hand. and on the republican side it is
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scary and unnerving stuff about whether or not they are a party that endorses violence and whether they are a party that still believes that democracy and elections are the way that we decide things as a country. on the democratic side, they are just trying to govern and figure out how to get something done without dealing with that dumpster fire on the other side. how can that be your governing partner? however much we treat politics as a horse race and politics and how much elections have consequences and how many people are on each committee. once the consequences are that you are in control of both houses of congress and the white house, the thing most key to your political success is to show whether you can do good things for the country with your power and whether you can get stuff done.
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that is totally different than what happens on the other side. also important as to whether or not we are going to have a human in the future. that is not the way they are approaching the problem. just an incredible situation. the man joe biden has chosen to run the democratic party, he has a deep and urgent task ahead of him. the new chair of the democratic national committee joins us live for the interview next. us live for the interview next ancest, with photographs, i get to define myself through the scores of people who lead to me. bring your family history to life like never before. get started for free at ancestry.com
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>> when a new president is elected it is not written down as black letter law, but the newly elected president gets to choose who he or she would like to let the party. president joe biden made his choice and joining us now for the interview is the brand-new chairman of the democratic party, jamie harrison. it is great to see you and congratulations on this well deserved gig. >> thank you so much rachel. i really appreciate it. >> tell me in your own words what you believe that your mission is, your vision
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statement for what you want to do at the helm of the democratic party for the first couple of years that president biden is in office. >> rachel, you know president biden's mission is to unite the country and to enact policy to really help address the issues that people are dealing with on a day-to-day basis. my job is his chairman of the democratic party is to make sure that we take his successes, the promises he made that we made sure the folks down in small towns in the cities understand that those are promises that are kept. it is also my mission to make sure that democrats build back better and we have a strengthened party in all 50 states in our territory. that we can give him more help in terms of the house, senate and state legislatures across the country. i am looking forward to doing that. i had calls into ohio today and
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to arkansas because of sarah huckabee sanders said she is running for governor. you talk about republicans in disarray and a dumpster fire. that is one hot mess. we are not going to allow that to happen. we are go to fight everywhere, rachel. i am excited about the prospect. >> one of the reasons that i wanted to talk to you, jamie, right now is because i feel like there is an imbalance in the national conversation. because of the way that president trump's term ended, because of the attack on the u.s. government mounted by his supporters. i feel like the whole country is convulsed with thinking of trumpism as a movement or trump supporters and whether they fit into the republican party. the republican party is having weird discussions and decision busy how they want to court even the most extreme supporters of the president. so we think of the relationship between the politicians in the republican party and the movement of the people that support them i think
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compulsively now as a country because we have seen the danger they may present in ways led how the other president led them. we rarely talk about people that voted for joe biden and kamala harris and people that voted for a democratic controlled senate and house as a movement and as a group of people who need to be courted and who are potentially a major force in politics. depending on how they are let and how they want to channel their energies and that ultimately may determine the success of whether president biden can get done what he wants and leader schumer and speaker pelosi can get done what they want. i feel like the democratic party is millions in the country and not just the people in washington. we don't talk about them that way very much. >> we have to start talking about them in that way, rachel. ultimately you have a lot of
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folks in the country that want to be seen and heard and valued. they want a government that will work for them. and what i am going to encourage to do is to look past the d and the r and ask a question. who is fighting if are me and my family. who is fighting for my community. right now you do not see that from the other side of the aisle. they are fighting amongst themselves. joe biden understands we are facing four big disasters right now in the country. covid. many of us have been impacted by. the economy. so many folks are wondering how to put food on the table and whether or not they have a roof over their heads. the climate change bearing down on the country and the racial inequities and injustices that plagued the nation froms it inception. those are the things that joe biden said that i am going to move on them on behalf of the american people because those are the promises that are made. it is important for us to get
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and to galvanize the people to understand that they have power to really move the country forward. and those folks in washington d.c. that don't want to do that and the kevin mccarthys of the world blaming the insurrection and the mob on the american people. those people need to be replaced. rachel, i see it as my job to motivate and move that ball forward. there is no place for people like rand paul who criticized joe biden for going after white supremacy. that has no place in the country right now. if people want to be a part of the effort to build back better and have a 50-state strategy. be a part of the army that we are building in order to really take our country back. >> mr. chairman, i am going to ask you right now if you will come back and talk about some of those individual races, the arkansas governor's races and the ohio senate race. i am really interested given
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your experience running against lindsey graham in south carolina and how much i learned from you about south carolina politics. really interested in you talking us through your perspective. i hope you will come back. >> i will come back. lindsay saided that may 2016 if we nominate donald trump we will get destroyed and we will deserve it. i think that is coming to roost. >> democratic national committee chairman jamie harrison. it is great to see you. >> take care. >> much more to get to tonight. stay with us. h more to get to tt stay with us
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robber all right. let's start with the good news. president biden today announced his administration will be able to distribute most vaccines to states soon as next week. the administration says they will be able to ship out about 10 million doses per week for
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the next three weeks. that is about 1.5 million more doses per week than they were previously planning on shipping out. they have gone from like 8.6 million to 10 million for the next three weeks. that's good. president also announced that his administration has ordered 100 million more doses each of the two kinds of vaccines that are currently available. pfizer and the moderna vaccine. those 100 million each should be delivered this summer. that means at the end of the summer the federal government will have supplied enough doses to vaccinate 300 million americans. if you vaccinated 300 million of us that would pretty much be the end game. that is the good news. states are go to get more doses soon in the next three weeks. we are aiming within a matter of
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months at getting the whole population vaccinated. but getting vaccinated in the country is way too hard and confusing. still supply chain problems and organizational problems that led to cancelled appointments and people waiting for vaccines that should have gotten them. it remains to be seen. there are questions now about whether the mutations of the virus might require booster shots or even in the longer runs entirely different vaccines in the future as the vaccine continues to evolve and mutate. even while president biden said yesterday he hopes to increase the number of daily vaccines that we are given in this country by 50%. he wants to go from 1 million to
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1.5 million. people that know the most about these things say even 1.5 million per day will not be enough, particularly with the mutations of the virus and in some cases leading to a virus that appears to be much more easily transmitted, more people infected quickly, more hospitalizations, more deaths and more urgency in preventing people from getting this thing. we are talking about the imperatives of the new more transmissible variants and how well the biden administration is doing so far. we have the expert here next to talk with us about all of that. stay with us. talk with us about all of that stay with us understand why. (money manager) because our way works great for us! (naj) but not for your clients. that's why we're a fiduciary, obligated to put clients first. (money manager) so, what do you provide? cookie cutter portfolios? (naj) nope, we tailor portfolios to our client's needs. (money manager) but you do sell investments that earn you high commissions, right? (naj) we don't have those. (money manager) so what's in it for you?
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>> i can announce we will increase overall weekly vaccination distribution of states, tribes and territories from 8.6 million to a minimum of 10 million doses and we believe we will be able to soon confirm
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the addition of 100 million doses. 100 million more doses of pfizer and 100 million more doses of moderna. 200 million than the previous government secured. not in hand yet, but ordered. >> big announcements from the biden administration. a doctor who specializes in microbiology at the baylor college of medicine says that the newly increased goal. now president biden says 1.5 million shots per day is the goal. he is now arguing in the pages of the "washington post" that to get closer to what we need, we need to hit 3 million doses a day. how possible is that and why is that the right number to aim at?
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co-director for the center of vaccine development at texas childrens hospital. doctor, it is an honor to have you back with us tonight. thank you for making time. >> thanks rachel and it is great to be here. >> these are big numbers and it is hard to sometimes conceptualize what they mean. i know we got to the point as a country when we can do 1.1, 1.2 million shots per day. why do you say the number we need to be aiming at is triple that, up to 3 million per day? >> first of all, i think it is important not to diminish the accomplishments of the biden administration. we now have a national plan in place and a national vaccination strategy. we didn't have that before. you know, in a matter of a week we already have got a national vaccine plan in place and that is so important. i give a lot of credit to the biden administration. i am a little concerned we are not picking up the pace fast enough. the reason that i say that is estimates indicate in order to
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stop virus transmission, there are two things the vaccines do. they keep you out of the hospital and the icu. if enough americans get vaccinated we could halt transmission and we think that number is around 3/4 of the u.s. population. 240 million people. most of the vaccines are about two doses. half a billion doses we have to take care of and i want to do that by the beginning of the summer to raise the head of the virus variants. the simple numbers are 500 million over 5 months, 100 million a month, 3 million a day. we are only striving for half of that. that is not good enough. because we have, according to the centers for disease control now, the uk variant might be the dominant variant in the united states by march or april. the transmission will go way back up, even though we are down by about 20 to 30% now from where we were. that is only temporary. i think we are in the eye of the
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hurricane and the numbers will go back up. i feel like even as ambitious as the biden plan is, it is still not ambitious enough. we can and we have to vaccinate half a billion people by the summer in order to prevent that terrible number of 600,000 deaths. that is the bottom line. i want to save lives. >> so, to get to that and the corresponding imperative is to the extent that the virus in the united states is going to be supplanted by the more transmissable variant and virus meaning we need to move fast tore give people immunity so the infections rates don't race further out of control than they already have been. >> that is right. we have to let the vaccination rates emerge ahead of the virus emergence. we could have the south african variant, one out of denmark and
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one out of brazil. dr. fauci feels like the death rate is going up with the uk variant. this is all very bad news on top of previous bad news. we have to look at the levers we can pull and push to vaccinate the american people in a timely fashion. and as we all have been hearing, my inbox is flooded with people who are so profoundly frustrating calling cvs and rite-aid trying to get vaccines for their mother and father and brother and sister. this is not only a public health crisis but a full on homeland security issue in my estimation. >> sir, always an honor to have you here and thank you for helping us to understand. >> thank you so much. >> we will be right back. stay with us. back stay with us
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>> that is going to do it for us tonight. i am standing on lawrence o'donnell's real estate and i will hereby vacate. now time for the last word. >> now it's time for "the last word" with lawrence. good evening, lawrence. >> good evening, rachel. take as much of this real estate as you want. we're going to continue our year of the senate coverage which you started so well last night with majority leader schumer. there are so many -- i think people learned about budget reconciliation and all that stuff about ten years ago with obamacare suddenly, parliamentary procedure. rachel, i think we're going to have to know a lot more based on what i saw on the senate floor today. so we'll be doing a little more of that tutorial, but people should take it easy. you can always rewind this video and kind of go over it again, you know, what was that that they just said? and i have a feeling we're going to be talking about this stuff all year. so you don't have to learn it in one night.