be blunt about it, the lying combined with anger over covid shutdowns, with trump also stoked, with tweets like "liberate michigan." only added fuel online that it provides a threat to the america homeland. the rare federal alert from dhs warning all americans of a, quote, heightened threat environment due to domestic extremists who are described this weigh -- idea logically motivated violent extremists,

with the objection to the exercise of governmental authority and the presidential transition, as well as other perceived grievances fueled by false narratives. "the washington post" puts the seriousness of this warning in context like this -- dhs periodically issued such advisories, but the warnings have typically been generated by elevated concerns about attacked by foreign government, not domestic extremists. though the bulletin stresses that dhs doesn't have specific information about a specific plot, it warnings the same drivers to violence will remained through early 2021, and some extremists may be emboldened by the january beach of the attack on the capitol. that, of course, is the january

riot that donald trump incited with his big lie about the election results, on top of the divisions he stoke throughout his four years in president while he fueled conspiracy theories and chipped away at the institutions in place to keep all americans safe. all of it being green lit in real time, of course, by the republicans who persist in their refusal to hold donald trump accountable, including for that attack that put their own lives and the life of the vice president at risk. we're talking about the 45 -- senators who voted yesterday against even holding an impeachment trial. that's where we start today. senior national security analyst, former cia director john brennan is here, also ashley parker, "the washington post" white house bureau chief and msnbc political analyst, and msnbc national security analyst

frank figluzzi author of the book, "the fbi way." director brennan, i want to start with you on this alert. can you just take us through the strategy on the part of national security officials. >> i think it's prudent toia the system to make sure all officials are aware that just because the deadly assault on the capitol is behind us, that doesn't mean the extremists have gone home and still do not harbor grudges against the government and authorities. by issuing this bulletin, i think it's going to be up to the depend of homeland security to reach out to state and local officials to talk about what other measures might need to be

put in place. the fbi as frank well knows and will tell you, they'll be in touch with their local law enforcement officials. again there's a lot of people out there who continue to harbor the violent aspirations. it's not directed against individuals who may by critical of the government or the biden administration. you can have those views. it's when the views move into the area of violence. that's why i think the department of homeland security appropriately sent out this bulletin, to alert folks to be mindful and be on guard for anything that might seem as though it's leading toward violence. >> director brennan, a former senior intelligence official said to me that on the duration of this bulletin, this is a warning that goes from right now through the end of april, i believe, and he said back to the post-9/11 era when a warning was that long term, it was usually an indication that law

enforcement was pursuing a network, not a specific individual with a specific plot. there's been a lot of great reporting in ashley's paper, "new york times" and other places about the role that the proud boys that were called on by donald trump to stand by, may have played into it. what can you tell us about an alert that goes on for several months? what do you think they're looking for? >> i think going on for 9 on days is appropriate. we'll see whether it's reissued. this threat from domestic extremists is much more challenging than it was in terms of going after foreign terrorists. they're much more pervasive, their numbers are much larger. when we were going after al qaeda, cells here in the united states were in the single digits or dozens, and was finding needles in a haystack.

they're there are a lot of haystack with a lot of needles in them, so it's much more challenging for local authorities to be able to uproot and uncover those who have, again, the violent aspirations. a lot of these militia groups i think caused great concern among those local authorities, because they had the wherewithal. they already have the weapons if they so choose to use them, they can in fact carry out these deadly attacks. >> frank, let me describe from this bulletin -- motivated by a range of issues, including anger over covid restrictions, the election results and police use of force, and -- including opposition to immigration, has driven domestic violent extremist attacks. you could read that another way, these are predominantly white

supremacists and racists. >> yeah. there is so much to unpass in what you just read. i have a number of thoughts and observations. first, this is only -- this advisory they have specificity to time, nature, this is an advisory, okay, that's the end of the good news. here is the bad news. this reflects a discovery of deeply entrenched radicalization in our society. as the agents are going through and arresting and executing search warrants against the insurrectionists, they're likely discover evidence of bigger planning, a deeper sense of organization than they could have imagined. i know personally from my own observations that the chatter is

continuing almost unabated, but this advisory is not only about what they know about what might happen, but it's also a fear of what they're not seeing. here's what i mean. as they're migrating to encrypted comes, encrypted platforms in the dark recesses of the web. we can't see -- law enforcement can't see what they know might be. that's a blind spot for them. the other thing this isn't just partnering with law enforcement. one, yeah, let's put national law enforcement on notice, the highway patrol officer who pulls someone over who yaks about hutting somebody in d.c., but

it's also, if you see something, say something. we need that kind of posture as we had after 9/11. >> frank, this former senior intelligence official suggested to me that this could be the kind of bull fin that law enforcement would have liked to have released before the inauguration of joe biden. do you think that's a credible line of inquiry for reporters covering this moment? >> my sense, my gut, my experience tells me that when we heard the fbi say that we gave intelligence concerns about violence to the capitol police, the capitol region, when we hear the capitol police produce their own intelligence report that was even more troubling, and we saw the posture and presence we saw.

my gut tells me someone was pulling those strings, someone said don't issue the warnings, don't get the posture up, don't scare people, don't interfere with what we have. we need a truly independent commission to get us those answers. ashley parker, my colleague joe scar borough went on an epic rant which i admired, but republicans want to stand with trump on an insurrection, knock yourself out. you'll make the job of burning the party to the ground faster and easier. let me read this bulletin one more time. these are domestic terror threat today, in our entire country, quote -- idea logically motivated violent extremists with objections to the exercise

of government authority and the presidential transition. it's donald trump's freaking mission statement for the last three months of his presidency. he is the clear and present danger. he is the symbol of everything we're being warned about today. >> well, one thing that was fascinating about the republican response especially to the attack on the capitol was there was a lot of shock and surprise that this had happened, but again, as anyone who has been paying attention or covering donald trump as i have, this very much felt like a natural culmination of trumpism. i'll just go back briefly to 2015. he was not even president. he was a candidate. i was on the campaign trail covering him. one, i called my editors and said we need a reporter at every single trump event.

pretty soon things will get violent and we'll want someone on the ground to cover it. i wrote a story about that, about the violence at trump rallies, but these rallies in moments that felt like they were teetering on the brink of a mosh pit explosion of violence with white supremacists in the crowd then. this is something that the president -- of course he egged on those angry reporters on january 6th, but he's egged them out since he took power, and we're seeing the continuation of it with members of the republican party, who overtly -- maureen green advocated for violence before becoming a legislator, and even advocated for the execution of democrats. into the fight within the republican party, that they even fealty comfortable voting to

impeach him or if they're worried about the wrath of him and his supporters. >> i want to read more of this, ashley. your reporting chronicled these of the ideas most on the mind on trump's twitter feed before he was kicked off. the violent extremists also feel perceived grievances fueled by false narratives. i mean, this really is a case where the lies uttered by donald trump, amplified by his allies on fox news, and everything else that his media sycophants project their messages, put us all at risk. from the role of russian influence in the election, to the role -- i think practically an unprecedented threat of

domestic terrorism. >> you mention the sense of grievance that his supporters feel. that's something else fueled by this president. you know, if you sort of step back objective, donald trump is one of the luckiest men alive. he's been bankrupt and somehow convinced everyone he is the smartest businessman in the world who understands the art of the deal. he had never run for for political office, and then wins. he's a lucky guy. he taps into a grievance that his supporters feel, and when you marry that with dangerous information and conspiracy theories, it creates basically an explosion that we saw and that, as this warning just showed, we're potentially waiting to see again. though, of course, we hope not.

>> director brennan, i want to play you president biden, who described this as domestic terrorism just days after the insurrection. let's play that and talk about it on the other side. >> what we witnessed yesterday was not dissent, it was not disorder, it was not protest. it was chaos. they weren't protesters. don't dare call them protesters. they were a riotous mob, insurrectionists, domestic terrorists. it's that basic, it's that simple. >> so this country was attacked by domestic terrorists on january 6th. when this country was attacked by islamic terroristed on september 11th, everything changed. all the senators went to the capitol and sang "amazing

grace." they passed the patriot act, but the true is everyone decided we needed new policies and changed the way we protect the homeland since this attack, nothing has changed. more than 100 house republicans, and i think about seven senate republicans went on to vote baso, based on the trump lie, to invalidate the result of the election. are you optimistic we have the will to take on this terrorism threat, the way we did after the threat on 9/11? >> i'm optimistic that president biden and vice president harris do, and that the legislative branch will look at this through a different lens. the al qaeda attacks on 9/11 were emanating from abroad. this domestic threat is much more dangerous. it's already within or midst.

it's much more different to uproot those dedicated to carrying out violent attacks. i'm hopeful the executive branch under president biden will move in the right direction. it's a question of whether or not members of congress will be able to unify against what is this very vitriolic and hateful ideology. >> frank figureluizzi, i want to hear your thoughts on this interview from last night, and add that to your response. let's watch. >> this is something that unfolded on january 6th, directed at a family member of mine. this individual apparently had secured a phone number, secured an address, made it appear as

though they were prepared to proceed violently either at the address of my family member and/or my own home address at the same time that the capitol was being attacked. the most important thing here, chris, is what was chilling in the message that was received is this individual said, stop telling lies, biden did not win, he will not be president. >> yeah. >> so he was radicalized by the big lie that donald trump told, and that has been supported by so many republicans in the house and the senate. >> frank, this is a realtime threat against a family member of a sitting member of congress, who was motivated by the lie. he said, quote, he will not be president, biden did not win.

he believed donald trump on that. >> yeah, people who are radicalized buy a lie. they buy into a false narrative. they buy it hook, line and sinker and become true believers. let's compare and contrast hakim jeffries with some of the other colleagues in the house and senate. jeffries is doing the right thing for the national interest in the face of extreme threats of violence to himself and his family, yet does what's in the national interest. compare that to members of the house and senate who continue to be radicalizers by aligning with the radicalizer-in-chief, doing what in their self-interest political. i say this about the senate. where else have you seen a trial at any level, in any courthouse, where the jury is composed of both victims of the crime, those senators whose lies were threatened on the day of the

insurrection, and perpetrators, those who aided, abetted a facilitated the crime. that's your jury for impeachment in the trial. do we expect that to be hopeful? do we expect those people with their track record of not doing the right thing to suddenly do the right thing? i'm not that hopeful that the right thing will happen. i am hopeful that the radicalizer in chief has been removed, but the task ahead is monumental. frank, let me read you some reporting in "new york times" about an investigation into the proud boys who were bestowed, i guess in their view of the honor of being name checked. the times is reporting that the produce boys who have a history of scuffling with left-wing antifascist activists have long been some of the trump's most vocal supporters. along with the right-wings

militia, the oath keepers, the produce -- proud boys had a large presence. the reporting is focusing on some of these groups, who themselves identify most closely with donald trump. what does de-radicalization look like? >> it's an all hands on deck holistic societal approach. law enforcement is not the only solution. there's two elements that i count on for de-radicalation. it's exposure to the truth, to sunshine, it's very hard to do whether you're in some encrypted chat room in an amplified echo chamber and only get your news from one sources, but it has to repeatedly happen. you have to show the benefit to

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in its first today, the coronavirus response team warned of the realities of the vaccination road ahead for us, as many states scramble to deal with the dwindling supply of vaccine doses. on a positive note, a team doubled down on the goal of

produces enough vaccines for 200 million americans to be vaccinated by the end of march, 300 million by the end of the summer. president biden's jump-starting of the defense production act increases the production. here's how andy slavit warned it will play out. >> it will be months before everyone who wants a vaccine will be able to get one. what we talked about yesterday was a first step, namely to make sure we have enough production, making sure that 300 million people get vaccinated have a lot of other elements. there's a huge prosed process.

>> dr. peter hotez is joining us. i can't believe we've been talking to you for so long, and this is a split screen moment for the country. while there's good news about a vaccine, but there's worse news about the shortages and about the virus itself mutating. >> yeah, i mean there is some good news in the sense you have a good team in place with the biden white house. these are professionals. they know how diagnose things done in government. they're evidence-based, they're not going to be blocked object downplay the severity of the pandemic or call it a hoax. we learned in 2020 we could necessarily take that all for granted, so i'm extremely grateful for what the biden administration is doing.

one of the challenges, this pandemic is taking twists and tern and now we're told the uk variant will be dominant by march. so even though we have a lull now -- it's not really a lull. if you told me we would reach 180,000 cases a day, that's extraordinary and terrible, but it's down for 220,000. that's the eye of the hurricane, the next piece of this is coming through the you can, brazil, south african variants, so the question is how do we stop people from get to 600,000 deaths in the middle of may and how do we accelerate vaccinations as quickly as possible. >> you go a long way toward

helping non-scientists in a piece you wrote. let me have you elaborate. you write -- this looming catastrophe has you wanting to vaccinate -- we must fully immunize three quarters of the population as soon as possible. that means roughly 500 million doses in five months, 100 million each month not in 100 days. biden said he may lift the goal, but that won't be enough. we need to be vaccinating 3 million people every day. did you get a call from the white house? do you have any sense what you're proposing is achievable? >> well, you know, i'm guessing that i probably didn't tell them they don't already know. maybe it was articulated in a more straightforward, austere way they would have liked

expressed, but that's the reality. we have to vaccinate before the variants get here. when we hear about getting 300 million doses of the moderna and pfizer doses before summer or fall, i look at it and say that's not fast enough. i mean, we've got to figure out a way to get vaccine into the arms of people sooner than that. there are options. one of things i say in the wos woes piece is the european medicines agency will likely approve the astrazeneca/oxford vaccine on friday. we've already performed 300 million doses. if that's the case, is that an option? even though it may not work as well in older populations, according to some studies, so what? if we can vaccination nate maybe

that would slow the rise of the variants. i don't want to accept that 600,000 deaths is inevitable. i don't think it is. we have to rely exclusively, and bring on the astrazeneca, the johnson & johnson vaccine, of course. we have a vaccine in india, and nobody has approached us how to bring that into the u.s. we haven't pulled and pushed all the levers that might be available. >> i want to make sure i understand this. joe biden said yesterday that basically we will have vaccinated 300 million americans by the end of the summer, early fall. that's only based on, it sounded to me, their ability to produce and distribute the pfizer and moderna vaccine, which is both two doses, both require

refrigeration. are you saying that whole picture could change if we add the astrazeneca vaccine to our stockpile and introduce the johnson & johnson vaccine once they're approved? >> yeah, i'm saying we have to bring those vaccines up. it's not -- we'll still need the two mrna vaccines, and even maybe as a third boost depending on the durability of the two mrna vaccines, but we can't look at that as the answer. there's too much death and destruction between now and the fall to make that happen. we didn't think we would be at that place. we didn't fully understand how quickly they variants will take over. this is new information, but this is how this pandemic has been. we have to follow the science, and sometimes that means calling an audible going up to the line of scrimmage, realizing the defense doesn't look so good anymore, we have to make a shift. i think we can do that and we

will. it's unfortunate that the biden administration has only been in this for a week. it's an unfair task to ask anybody. i can't think of a modern example. maybe when we asked truman to finish the war in the pacific theater after coming in in april in 1945. so it's unfair what we're asking, but that's the reality. >> dr. peter hotez, i always learn something. thank you for your time today, my friend. kevin mccarthy says he's going to have a talking had of to with the freshman congresswoman who posts thing about executing colleagues. we'll bringing that story next. t

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the pro-trump qanon reporting, showing she repeatedly endorsed outlandish dangerous conspiracy theories about democrats and endorsed executing democratic leaders and federal agents. nbc news has not independently verified the posts, but a spokesman for kevin mccarthy tells axios that the posts are

deeply disturbing. back in november, mccarthy defended greene and other newly elected extremists in he caucus, after the elections, asking the media to give them an opportunity. turning our conversation to tim miller, a contributor to the bulwark in our inhour monitor system of right-wing media disinformation, and jason johnson, professor at morgan state university. tucker carlson is defending the qanon member. she's not in trouble for what she thinking. she's in trouble as a public official for what she posts and conveys on social media. talk about what if anything can be done by kevin mccarthy on the day that homeland security issued a domestic terrorism

alert about violent domestic extremists? >> that's exactly right. this isn't thought police. this is action police. we're only two, three weeks passed a police officers getting executed by followingest of marjorie taylor greene, q, and the former president of the united states. i think a quick trigger warning here for viewers, i think it's important to understand what she was saying. she accused former senator and secretary hillary clinton and huma abedin of frazzle drip. she said hillary clinton and nancy pelosi were planning for school shootings. she said las vegas was a false flay. she haranged david hogg, the parkland survivor when he was a high school student a few months

after his classmates died, calling him little hitler. this is a person who is deeply deranged, in a deep moral rut, and what mccarthy has done, he's having a talking-to. he put her on the education committee. this woman's said that school shootings are a false flag, that the speaker of the house is organizing, and she's on the education committee in the house of representatives. look, there are things he can do. he doesn't have to give her committee assignments. they can try to campaign gets her. matt gaetz is campaigning against liz cheney, because she's anti-coup. i don't think that people should be satisfied just having a talking-to. i think it's important for democrats to raise the profile of this and don't let it fall by the wayside. we saw the repercussions of a person like this in power on january 6th.

>> you just said something really important i want to follow up on. i think aoc is a star, but there are a lot of republicans who feel like her world view doesn't represent their world views, and right-wing media vilified her and smeared the entire democratic party, including joe biden, with her world view, her policy views. they are very good at taking what they perceive to be the most sort of idealogically extreme -- i haven't seen democrats yet embark on that endeavor, but this politician offers them a real opportunity, aoci that. is a competent, rising star in the democratic party. >> sure. we don't want to draw an equivalence between the two.

>> i didn't mean to do that. what democrats do to republicans is sort of paint with a broad brush the ideological views. joe biden doesn't necessarily share all the same viewpoints as aoc, bernie sanders or anything else. this isn't even about views. she's a conspiracy theorist, committed the very same kinds of disinformation act that today the department of homeland security warned against, in almost an unprecedented bulletin. she is is what they are describing in the homeland security department's bulletin about the world views of potentially violent extremists who represent domestic terrorism. those are the views that this congresswoman has. >> absolutely. and that is as far as a political strategy matter, is an opportunity the democrats have

to take, a moral obligation to take. if you're in the houston suburbs, like dan crenshaw and chip roy, who talk about mainstream republicans, they have to answer to marjorie greene. they need to be forced to answer for that. why should dan crenshaw and chip roy, other members, conference kevin mccarthy, can go away with buck on a caucus, being aligned with a whom who is calling for executions of political leaders. they need to speak out and own it. that should be an important part of the democratic strategy going forward. obviously the white house has a lot of other stuff on their place, but the democrat ink campaign committee should absolutely be focused on that. >> jason, i never want to put more work on the party that is actually interested in governing

and interested in protecting the company, but there's nobody left. i think what is revealed by the senate vote this week, with 45 republicans to not even hold a trial for the president who incited the insurrection, who had all of them hiding in their own offices with furniture pushed up again the doors? what were they hiding for in donald trump hadn't incited a riot. if they weren't afraid, why were they in offices with furniture pushed up against a door. the only point that they have today, this bulletin describes the threat, they describe the world view of the people who right now and through the enof april, the world view is the same word view as the views publicly esupposed by the qanon member of congress. >> this is just like steve king.

if they want this crazed conspiracy theorist to represent them, that's their right, but the republican party doesn't have supporter. they don't have to put her on committees, take money away from her, but they have not, they've broadband the anc to the tip of the nation. that's what they do. they know that they have a violent terrorist organization that's supported by their ideology. they try to pretend it's not the case. this is a job for jamie harrison. they have to tie not just every person to these issues, but show the dramatic and negative consequences. we lost days of congress where they could have been working. unfortunately the way democrats tend to respond to republicans is like republicans do something bad and they put a negative rating on yelp. when democrat -- like that's the difference, and the democrats need to engage in that behavior.

you were both talking about aoc. she didn't want to shelter in place with fellow republicans, because she was legitimately concerned that they may rat her out, that they may tell some of the terrorists where she was hiding. so when you have members of the rep party who are seen as being in lockstep with a terrorist organization, the democrats have to stop saying -- they have to say these people are terrorists and don't want to govern. we don't negotiate with terrorists. the first democrat that says that is the person who should be the leader of the messages for the party the next 18 months. you can't negotiate, can't legislate and can't work with terrorists. >> look, this is an extreme state of affairs. this is the moment. my only point about a political strategy is, i never think it's a good strategy when you have to reach. this was advised to police departments and law enforcement

agencies and citizens today. the ideology of the domestic terrorists that we are all supposed to be watching for. is the same world view that this qanon member has. >> members. >> to your point, this is the republican party. this is not someone who has ostracized conference mccarthy gave her a committee assignment. this is not somebody who has condemned and expelled. there are 45 members of congress who seemed to be an am bivalent will donald trump's role in the insurrection as she is. their actions suggest that her am bivalent about domestic extremist. >> nicolle, i think they're in favor of it. let's be clear. if you vote against a trial to hold this guy responsible, who by the way led a crowd of people who wanted to kill mike pence.

if there's one interview, i want to see mike pence. i want him to go to the next rnc event and say you wanted people to hang me. these people are not your friends, mike. maybe you want to switch parties, because the republican party, they can't have blinders on anymore. there's no face shield. there's no n95 mask to cover you from this virus of terrorism. you have all sucked it in and are now participating in spread it through the party. anything suggesting they're not fully aware of what they're doing and are still doing, is to get them off the mock for something we know they're participating in. >> unbelievable state of affairs. well to sneak it a break. don't go anywhere. up next, can the biden administration fix some of the cruellest policies and actions? it looks like he's certainly going to try. it looks like he's certainly going to try

♪ ♪ these days you need more than an education. so that's what we give you. introducing career services for life. learn more at phoenix.edu one of the darkest chapters of the trump presidency and let me be clear, there were many, but one of the darkest was the separation of migrant families at the border. infants from their mothers and fathers. yesterday, the biden administration started to take steps to solve and heal and right the situation which led to the separation of more than 3,000 families. president biden's acting attorney general sent a letter to all u.s. attorneys officially rescinding the trump

administration's zero tolerance program, while the move was largely symbolic, trump ended the separation of children from their parents in a 2018 executive order. the policy was never actually officially rescinded. we're back with tim and jason. before break, you were bursting with something and i don't want to lose your momentum here. >> the point i was trying to make before the break is yesterday on republicans fake calls for unity. they're using it as a cajole. joe biden isn't unifying unless it's the way we want. but unifying together should be finding policies where everybody should be able to agree on. condemning someone that is supporting white nationalist domestic terrorism should be something that unifies both parties. ending this heinous child separation policy should be something that unifies both parties. maybe not everybody in both parties. some republicans who actively supported this, but for the ones

who claim to have in good faith want to unify, they should be standing with joe biden right now saying, thank goodness we got rid of this human rights violation at our southern border that's a stain on our country and i want to work with joe biden to help get the resources and the immigration judges, all the other things that are needed to make sure this never happens again on the border and to make sure we deal with folks that are coming to this country to seek refuge humanely and within the law. that is how we unify. no republicans are doing anything to try to garner that kind of unity with joe biden. they only bring it up whenfinge. >> let me say this on tv and outloud. the unity thing is bs. they don't mean it. they have nowhere else to go or nothing else to say. if unity were real, predictable but whacky power grab.

kevin mccarthy wouldn't be on an airplane heading to mar-a-lago to chill with donald trump who can't tweet him anymore. the unity thing is bs, it's a ruse and you fall for it at your own peril. >> the unity from republicans, you find your 5-year-old sprawling crayons and said, we both made mistakes. let's just move past it. no, you're the one with the crayons. you're the one messing up the walls. you're the one who's locked away kids at the border and nicole, this is the thing. this is the promise of joe biden. i am going to be as krit after critical of joe biden as the next person, but you mentioned at the beginning is ending child separation at the border is the clearest indicator he is a moral leader in this country. we will be studying for decades the blight of what happened on this border in this country. it was sick, it was inhumane.

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this is what the republicans in the senate want you to forget. this is why rand paul wants you to forget. this is what ted cruz wants you to forget. this is what ron johnson wants you to forget. and i say never, never forget.

just like i said after 9/11, never forget the islamic terrorists came to the country and attacked us. i said we needed to call on islamic terrorists. you know why? because they were islamic terrorists. you know what these people are? these are trump terrorists. call them by their name. >> hi again, everyone. it's 5:00 in the east. as prosecutors sedition charges very soon according to new reporting in "the washington post" and the investigation into the insurrection on capitol hill, my colleague joe scarborough raising the million dollar question. why are republicans so afraid to hold the former president accountable? the magnitude of the threat for those who want to dismantle our government. a threat addressed today by the department of homeland security

when it issued a federal bulletin of the increased threat of ideologically motivated violent extremists, possibly motivated to incite violence in the wake of joe biden's inauguration. it's a warning that makes republican inaction even more frightening. "the washington post" adds to our understanding of who is facing the most serious charges from their conduct on january 6th. quote, in charging papers, prosecutors have already identified a dozen members or affiliates of militant right-wing groups including the native proud boys and anti-government oath keepers and three percenters. the latter two of which heavily recruit among former military and law enforcement personnel. it's nearing the point of political irrelevance and becoming more of a national security crisis that sizable majorities of republicans do not want to hold donald trump accountable for inciting the insurrection. only five republican senators voted yes yesterday to even move ahead with the impeachment trial

and the rest of the subservience is moving into even more comfortable territory. do they have the ability or even the will to stop that threat described today by anti-government extremists who feel emboldened by the former president's words? the threat from the foreign terrorists, these same members would be railing against any public official who refused to name the threat and project strength. they'd have zero tolerance for that. but that is exactly what today's republican party stands for in the face of an unprecedented domestic terror threat. here's more evidence of a direct line between trump's incitement and the violence carried out against the capitol and mike pence as its primary target. >> mike pence, i hope you're going to stand up for the good of our constitution and for the good of our country and if you're not, i'm going to be very disappointed in you. i will tell you right now. >> i am very concerned about

mike pence. i have no idea what he's going to do. did not love the way the president talked about that. >> hang mike pence! hang mike pence! >> mike pence is a [ bleep ]. mike pence is a [ bleep ]. >> speaker pelosi? we're coming. mike pence? we're coming for you too. >> the investigation is also focused on a group name checked by donald trump a few months ago when he told them to, quote, stand back and stand by. from "the new york times," the leadership of the proud boys has come under increased scrutiny as agents and prosecutors across the country try to determine how closely members of the far-right nationalist group communicated during the riot at the capitol this month. and to what extent they might have planned the assault in advance according to federal law enforcement officials. at least six members of the organization have been charged in connection with the riot, top

ranking leaders, mr. biggs, a u.s. army veteran who led about 100 men on an angry march from the site of president trump's speech toward and then into the capitol building. "the wall street journal" also published some extraordinary video on this topic. watch. >> since the riot, proud boys leadership tried to downplay their role but the journal's investigation shows every key breach of the capitol's defenses, the proud boys and members of the contingent are at the forefront of the mob and can be seen coordinating and instig instigating. >> the question today is, what are republicans going to do about the clear and present danger that remains today from the supporters, proud boys and other trump backers who feel emboldened by their action and republicans' sensitivity to even questioning whether or not they'll hold the insurrectionists accountable. that's where we start today. katie, "new york times" justice

reporter, olivia troye, former senior aide to mike pence on the coronavirus task force, now the director for the republican accountability project and pete, agent and author of the book compromised. pete, i want to start with you in this bulletin about the window that's to last at least until the end of april of a heightened threat of political violence from domestic violent extremists. >> that's right. and i think this is a few months late. a long time coming and frankly should have come out well before the inauguration but what it serves to do, not only put on the public's radar but put the attention of the federal law enforcement, of state and local law enforcement and everybody kind of raises their attention and starts to understand what the nature of the threat is and what to pay attention to and

it's necessary, frankly, bautz because part of this is bringing awareness to the fact this is not acceptable behavior. anomaly and illegal activity. it's not a partisan issue but a legal issue and one america needs to stop. >> you have the unique insights in your former roles in government but i imagine you have some personal reactions to hearing a crowd of trump supporters chant "hang mike pence." do you think in the eyes of anyone you used to work with, this got out of control or was this what trump envisioned all along? >> i think there's a certain group of people who believe this has gone out of control and gone way too long but then there's the other side of the coin, right, a group of people still standing by the president regardless of the fact that he incited this insurrection and basically calling for the assassination of the vice president. we're watching this play out before our very eyes across

republican leadership and the people serving in congress right now who still today won't take a stand. >> katie, we covered your story monday and tuesday, your extraordinary piece of investigative journalism about the attempt at the justice department by donald trump to reach into the department and overthrow acting attorney general there, and it seems like your reporting puts the nail in the coffin as to any notion that this wasn't the plan all along. donald trump planned, even before he lost, to overturn the election even if he was close enough and what you make of the fact this alert had in it the reason we're facing this threat from the extremists, trump's false narrative about the election result. >> sure. i think what we saw with the justice department, what

happened in the justice department over time and the latest bulletin, we see the real impact of politicizing national security and law enforcement. we talked about it for four years. there was a lot of debate whether or not it would really impact the country if a new president could bring in a new team and reestablish old norms. we're seeing it's not simple as that. there was a real impact. what we're seeing now is, in fact, key established norms for four years. he didn't break them but made new ones and we'll live with the impact because the new norm is more of a vigilante norm and built specifically around his cult of personality. >> that's such a good point, katie. we cover trump as a norm buster but he really did bring in, i think vigilante is the right word. vigilante approach. turned one of our current guests into political enemies when they were going about the functions of their jobs.

but do you think we'll learn? are you pursuing this story of how inside out trump turned the national security agencies, do you think we'll have a full picture of it in time? >> i think the senate judiciary committee is looking into the matter. we'll have a picture in time because the senate has oversight capabilities and so does the isg but in the meantime, i do believe there will be more information coming out. not just about how the president pressured people, but about how the president's approach to the loss about his decision to perpetuate the lie he lost to what he believed himself, it wasn't just the president at the top. there were people all throughout the federal government who also believed him and nobody else

wanted to. as a official of the justice department, he had information that showed it wasn't true and yet still could not. >> you were still on your job with the russian disinformation and it seems like even if we were late, there was more flurry around that attack than there was around what katie is describing. four years of disinformation, main lined into trump's base, into pockets of different agencies. obviously, this individual kai kaitie writes about facilitates it. the accepting of the false narrative. what do you think is the description of dealing with disinformation when it comes from the former leader of the republican party, the former

president? >> nicole, it's a huge problem. it's important that the biden administration is going along through with members of the media and figuring out exactly what happened in the last days of the trump presidency. but important to understand what has happened to radicalize various people and particularly, not only in our society, but specifically within law enforcement and the military. i've spent 25 years in both communities and i can tell you, they're not a monolith but tend to skew conservative. they are strong law and order and certain will fall victim to these fantasies or rather extremist ideas including taking up violence. nonetheless, very hierarchy. and telling these white nationalists they had moral authority to believe what they did and they were right to believe the vote was stolen and right to believe that there's good people on both sides of the

charlottesville protest. and how you remove that moral authority is the job. republican leaders still hold it. and if they don't stand up to say this is wrong, you're not going to eliminate the problem no matter what the administration does. >> i want to follow up because from the bulletin, it's clear that the election lie but also the covid restrictions, which donald trump also left all of us gob smacked but he railed against stay at home orders, tweeting liberate virginia, liberate michigan. let me read from this bulletin. domestic violent extremists including anger of over covid restrictions and overuse of force. the restrictions became the president's cause and purpose and some of the only things he spoke about short of condemnation from within the trump orbit, within the trump

information or disinformation eco-system. how do you break through on both of those front and get the people, the american people to accept the things we have to do to stop the spread of covid which is president biden's first goal and accept the results of the election, key to our domestic security? >> well, i think you need two things. first thing is you need a coherent strategy out of the current administration but science-based decision-making. in terms of their decision making and then you need something far more importantly in the establishment republican entities and kevin mccarthy, going down to meet with trump and whether they're going to cast the future of the party with trump. with this cult of personality and crazy beliefs and grievances untethered to reality or whether they're going to return to a viable second party, the party i grew up in, the party that

represents, i think, traditionally what half of america really wants to believe, but they're in a real dangerous decision point right now and what i'm seeing is not reassuring. >> these are the five republicans even interested in seeing the facts, which had the support of ten raes. five senators who want to hear a trial. collins, murkowski, romney. reporting the by line on this piece of reporting. seemed to be a recognition that republicans were not so keen to move on from trump. whether out of fear of his promises and retribution and overwhelming popularity with the party's core supporters or the belief the fight was simply not worth having. i wonder, olivia, if you have any sense that the terror threat issue today could change what is clearly simply a political calculation for the vast

majority of republicans. >> to me, what republicans are saying, who represented their constituents or supposedly represent their constituents and they're trying to do what's right for the country, which clearly, they're not, it's not lost on me. the pandemic, 400,000 people dead. there was a swastika that was drawn inside of dhs walls under this former trump presidency. all of these moments like the pandemic, the rise of domestic terrorism, have happened under these republicans who were in office for the most part and at this moment when the evidence is cut and dry on a president that incited moment on january 6th,

this was donald trump calling for violence and calling for the assassination of mike pence, basically, right, and that still won't lead them to break the binds from him and his party. i just don't know what will. a dhs bulletin, in my opinion, will fall on deaf ears on these people. the representative green still sits there, assigned to a committee. lauren bogart, with qanon theories and perpetuating conspiracies, sitting in office still. none of these people have resigned. this is why we need to hold these people accountable. this isn't just one situation or incident that happened, right? this has been going on for years now. there are multiple examples that we can cite on why this moment matters and they can't step up to the plate and hold up what's right for the country.

>> katie, i want to ask you if you have any indication of something that pete alluded to and something frank mentioned in the last hour, something i heard from former senior intelligence official. is there any indication that the department of homeland security, the fbi, would have liked to issue a bulletin like this while donald trump was still in office warning of the threat of violent domestic extremism and that it was killed by the white house or anyone else. >> i think we've seen a lot of reporting that if you piece it all together shows that there was already intelligence january 6th was going to be a moment in the house unlike others here in washington. not during the racial justice protest or after the election we saw with pro trump supporters come and historically black churches or anti-trump supporters but yet we saw the

intelligence still did not lead leaders to respond in a large enough way. i think others have said, well, we had to be sensitive to the fact that we were talking about the president's own supporters. this was not like talking about domestic terrorism threats of the past. not talking about people inspired by al qaeda or isis. we're talking about people inspired by donald trump and there have been questions raised about how much of the hesitancy we saw being responsible to the intelligence stemmed from the unfortunate reality. and we also did see very severe warnings coming out of different offices, for example, in norfolk, virginia, but again, the responsiveness was not there. even the intelligence we had with no suppression of evidence was pretty severe and you still didn't see the response. so i can't say for certain that any intelligence was not brought to the table but i don't know how it would have been treated

even if it had been given how this was to some extent not treated seriously enough. >> katie, olivia, pete, thank you so much for starting us off this hour on another truly surreal day of news. we appreciate it. when we return, the role of ex-military and far-right extremism. retired general barry mccaffrey with why so many who have worn the uniform of our country are being recruited to be part of a movement that seeks to destroy it. plus, as president biden confronts crisis after crisis facing the nation he now leads, there's one issue at the foundation of everything his white house is trying to fix. we'll talk about it. and the challenge of opening schools at a time when new and more dangerous variants of the coronavirus are beginning to take hold. deadline white house continues after a quick break so don't go anywhere. continues after a quick break so don't go anywhere for members like martin. an air force veteran made of doing what's right, not what's easy. so when a hailstorm hit,

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the wake of the capitol attack, there are growing concerns about extremists in the ranks of the military. according to npr, nearly one in five people charged in the attack on the capitol are currently serving or have served in the military. the fight against the far-right has now become a top priority for defense secretary lloyd austin who pledged to stamp out white nationalism and right-wing extremism during his confirmation hearing. >> the job of the department of defense is to keep america safe from our enemies but we can't do that if some of our enemies lie within our own ranks. i think it's one of those things that's important to our military

to make sure we keep a handle on, make sure our leaders are doing the right things, taking care of their troops. they understand, they know their troops, and we can never take our hands off the wheel on this. this has no place in the military of the united states of america. >> wow. among the most alarming examples of veterans involved in the insurrection, the proud boys organizer and army veteran who prosecutors allege among the first to enter the capitol. retired air force colonel who breached the senate floor wearing a combat helmet as well as the army officer under investigation for leading 100 people to the trump rally that took place before the attack on the capitol and adam, ex-navy seal among the crowd who's trained by the military as an expert in identifying disinformation. he tells "the new york times" he's still convinced of the baseless conspiracy that the election was stolen. joining us, retired barry

mccaffrey. now lucky for us, nbc military analyst. general mccaffrey, lloyd mcaustin, he's saying the right things but this feels like a very, very, very difficult thing. how do you go about rooting it out inside the military? >> i couldn't agree more that lloyd austin is uniquely qualified, not only to be secretary of defense but address problems like this. either white supremacists or extremists in the rank. there's not a nook or cranny of the armed forces he doesn't understand and know where they are. there's a couple million people in the active guard reserve. the active guard reserve, we have great control over. we won't bring them into the

armed forces unless they're in the top 25 percent of the country's young men, top 15% of young women. no felony arrest, no kkk association, no nazi ties and if we find them and their behavior is racist, hate speech, illegal, we'll discharge them from the armed forces. the actual capitol, as far as i can tell, there's only two possibly active duty people involved in it and i think they'll take severe action against them. when it comes to veterans, a lot have been self-radicalized but remind ourselves, the armed forces are the most trusted institution in american society. and there's a reason for that. and one of the reasons is, we don't tolerate people that won't uphold their oaths to the constitution. so more to follow. lloyd austin needs to focus on

it. >> general, i want to read you a little bit more of what's available to the public through news reporting and ask you to put this in context. this is from "the new york times." pentagon accelerates efforts to root out far-right extremism in the ranks. pentagon officials can see the white supremacists and other groups actively recruit service members or have their own members try to join the military to learn skills and expertise which also lends legitimacy to the cause and last year notified the defense department it had opened criminal investigations involving 143 current or former service members of the 68 related to domestic extremism cases according to a senior pentagon official. i wonder if you could take this bulletin that was released today that really issues a public warning. i understand from former

intelligence officials, drives underground and make harder to detect but the product of turning family or friends or military perspersonnel, i wonde it creates a permissions structure to turn them? >> categorically, we have to approach extremists in the ranks. i just read that article you cited. former or current military personnel, the majority of them are retired with bad conduct discharges. again, you look at a couple million active guard reserve. my understanding is the u.s. internal armed forces cid, counterintelligence, a couple hundred under investigation at any given time but national guard or active duty, you're just not going to encounter

that. i'm sure there are all across the armed forces incidents that have to be rooted out, but i don't want to miss the point. our armed forces 60,000 killed and wounded, loyal to the constitution and their leadership. >> it's very important you're reminding of putting this in context. i think this reporting needs to be handled with care and that's why we asked you to come on today. i wondered if you could speak broadly though. obviously the military has paid the largest price and carried the heaviest burden in the decades long war against terrorism. the terror alert today about domestic terrorists in this country, i wonder if there's any appropriate role in the span of your career, do you think you'd see a day when a month's long alert/threat was alerted to the american people for people that have been radicalized in this

country through some of the views espoused by the former president? >> i think that's the key. self-radicalization is happening not just for muslim jihadists in the united states but also in some extent, the armed forces. again, we have tremendous opportunity to control the behavior, not the thinking. not the off-duty political views of our military members, but the behavior of those in uniform. we should use it. anybody that has guns and badges or authority needs to be under extra scrutiny and there are a thicket of laws that circumscribe those in the force, that includes the guard. we've got to be careful though. if somebody brings a social posting to the armed forces and

it's hate speech, racism, they'll definitely take action. i think it's a concern, not a major concern to me. evil influence on many institutions of government. by the time he left office, half strongly disapproved of his performance, around 39% still approved. so it was lower than the general population that voted for the guy. lloyd austin needs to focus on it. signed a document sending it out to the armed forces reminding him that biden was going to be the commander in chief and we were going to abandon the constitution. we ought to be aware of this going on but not concerned, in

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in word and deed, it's clear president joe biden signed four executive orders addressing racial inequality. americans know racial injustice snot just a problem to solve, but perhaps the problem to solve and undercurrent to nearly all others. consider for instance the disparity in our fight against covid. we know that black americans are dying at a higher rate than white americans and yet, so far, higher percentage of white americans have received the vaccine. that's why yesterday was so important. our friend aaron hains said organizers who push for priority in 2020 welcomed biden's tone and a reframing of racial issues, long a source of political division in the country as tied to americans' shared faith but the order were

a start, not the end to the effort to address inequities. joining our conversation, the aforementioned erin hains and then david jolly, both, lucky for us. erin hains, you've got the floor. >> thank you, nicole. and thank you for acknowledging a year ago. it was about just the primary debates. i mean presidential campaign, kamala harris. so a year later, looking very good for her. and our newsroom is celebrating a first. in the first week of the biden/harris administration, we

see emphasis on racial inequity part of the overall message of unity and trying, the president trying to convince americans that they should unite around the idea that, you know, isn't the nation better off when inequity is addressed and this is not a zero sum game. that is a message i think aimed specifically at white voters, whether we're talking about the ones who maybe didn't vote for him or we're talking about the more moderate or liberal voters who are white and did vote for him but maybe are worried about how this will affect their children's school or their neighborhood in terms of issues of housing or education. what was interesting, the domestic policy adviser, susan rice, whose job is to directly address racial inequality, talked about how this is going to be what she called an unprecedented effort across all of government to look at racial inequity, whether we look at the

department of housing and development, department of interior. the epa. every government agency is expected to report back on account of a baseline of how they are really embodying equity within those agencies and if they are not, how they plan to get to that, and so, while, again, we're only a week out, if you can imagine the inauguration was only a week ago, this is kind of the tone we think a lot of the people that did vote for president biden, namely, people of color and women, this is part of what they voted for. part of our racial inequality emphasis and the diversity we see on display. >> i want to come back to the politics but i want to hit on the policy. i wonder if you think that, i think what errin is saying is right. these are all the levers the

federal government could pull but what he's making clear, every lever he can pull, he's going to pull in his direction. i wonder if you think, that would always be historic in a massive undertaking but coming up for donald trump, it feels like you have to go underground and sort of pull up the damage and then get to the baseline and then reach higher. what do you think that task is like coming after donald trump? >> you can't put too fine a point on the significance of joe biden leaning in on racial equity this week. the nation in many ways is not just burdened by racial inequity but too often our inability to recognize it. and certainly, under the years of donald trump, not only was there an inability to recognize it but often, it seemed there was a deliberate move to ignore it. and so you can never get to the policy fixes that are necessary to achieve equity if you don't acknowledge the equity in the first instance. and so what joe biden has done is completely radically shifted

the conversation back to the moral trajectory on which it should be when we talk about issues of race and culture and i think what will follow will be policies that advance greater equity and access in areas of health care, quality education, opportunity like homeownership. the shift, though it seems subtle, culturally and within our politics is back to where it should be. >> errin, i want to follow on that and drill down on the covid response. it seems that joe biden and i mean, i take your point about what is owed to the people who propelled his candidacy after he lost the first three or four primaries after jim clyburn's endorsement, overwhelming turnout and we really owe, joe biden has a save this country and the pandemic.

we owe black voters the, it was turning out in the general, it was turning out in voting early, turning out voting absentee and all the margins are made. all those numbers that made history are largely from black voters and in georgia, it was, i mean, so if we are all vaccinated by the end of the summer and the country can heal, we should, we all, everyone, any political party, any gender, any race, we have black voters to thank for that. but i want to ask you something. jim clyburn talked about him many months ago. it feels like 11 years ago, it was probably just one. do you feel like he's always aware of exactly how he became the nominee and the president? >> i want to back up for a

second to point out with the black voters, president biden acknowledged in his acceptance speech. he understands that those are the people who got him the primary nomination weeks ahead of schedule and the ones who mobilized and galvanized and turned out in record number, even in the midst of this pandemic that we know is disproportionately affecting the black and brown and native folks in this country, and so with that said, yes. the inequity especially around the pandemic, among the four crises that the biden/harris administration said they're confronting is very real and that is why the pandemic coupled with the issue of racial inequality has been, i think, front and center for this administration and we'll have to wait and see if that commitment goes through as this 100 million shots in 100 days goal is being tested, even in the early days of this administration. >> this time is racing by out of

my control today but i want to ask you both to come back because i didn't know until our producers reported for me today that the vaccines that have been distributed have gone disproportionately to white americans. i want to do some more reporting on my end and i want to pick up this conversation on what president biden staked his presidency on, the distribution and the production and the acquisition of enough vaccines to have the whole country vaccinated. but you make a really interesting point. put you both on the spot. >> equitable. >> and yeah, equitable distribution of the vaccine. come early as can be. thank you for spending time with us today. when we return, despite the plan to get 300 million americans vaccinated by the end of the summer, the white house coronavirus task force has a dire warning about the weeks ahead. that story is next. ut the weeks ahead. that story is next

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today casting a bit of a shadow on president biden's hopeful vaccine goals. his covid response team echoing hours ago that there will be enough vaccines available for most americans but not until the end of the summer. their efforts face an uphill distribution road ahead and concerning lack of data. the briefing also revealed this new prediction today from the cdc about the next few weeks. up to 514,000 americans will have died from covid by february 20th. that's about 86,000 more souls lost than the current apaling and tragic death toll of 428,000. joining our conversation, public health analyst, dr. erwin, founding director of disaster preparedness. i can never ever find the words to ask an intelligent question about a death toll of over 500,000 americans. i'll ask you if there's any off ramp to that fate.

>> yeah, there might be, nicole, but it's not going to be in the short-term. this is the tragic reality of this. no matter what president biden does, he's got an incredible elaborate and an incredibly elaborate and seemingly effective idea about what to do it, but it's going to take time to get people vaccinated, and it will take time to build up herd immunity, and make sure that everyone is obeying the -- sorry, everyone is obeying the non-pharmaceutical interventions. so you can imagine what this must feel like. first of all, this new team, the biden/harris team, comes into office. they start pulling back the covers, and they see a trove of

incompetency and dishonesty. they should have been hitting the ground running, because they can appreciate what might have been done but wasn't done. now they have to play catch-up, and it's just a tragedy. you know, it's not just that we might well hit 500,000, which i think we will in terms of fatalities. i think by the summer, we'll have 700,000 or 800,000 fatalities. and not to mention, we have the concerns about the new strains or variants of the virus. >> what do you make, and what should parents and teachers make of the two different pictures about schools and the virus itself, that schools are turning out to not be places with virus transmission. a lot less has transmitted in

schools even in the same communities, but the virus itself is mutating and there is some reporting that some variants are more contagious in children? >> right. it's true and true, is the reality here. so in fact, the virus has not been as impactful on children as on older people. that's okay, that is right, that was right yesterday. tomorrow, we may see a surge of a form of the virus that is much more transmissible, that is not as affected by the vaccine as we might hope for. this is a mixed day as far as the news with respect to re-opening schools and the safety of children and teachers. i wish i could be more cheerful, but the reality is, we just don't know enough to -- you know, to be all that complacent about what we're dealing with.

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