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>> you don't want me on the show. and it was so clear, why do you want to go on the rachel maddow show. because i like here. you're not going to see deliberate holding back of good people when the press asks for them. it was a tough situation. it really was. >> thanks for watching the beat. joy reid is up next with a special interview with parkland survivor david hogg. good evening, everyone. we get the reid out, with a republican embrace of yet another cult. they ousted one republican in november. but just as republicans were
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complicit their years, they have another one. marjorie taylor green, a history of homephobic comments. we want no more part of amplifying this person. you need to hear it for yourself. just buckle up and take a listen to this. >> q is a patriot. we know that for sure. there is an islamic inversion into our government offices right now. they are -- you saw after midterm elections, we saw so many muslims elected. there were quite a few. the generations of black and hispanic men. you want to know what holds them
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down? gangs. being in gangs and dealing drugs is what holds them down. the gangs are holding them back. it's not white people. how do you get avid gun owners and people who support the second amendment to give up their guns and go with the constitution? maybe you perform a mass shooting into a crowd that is very likely to be conservative. is that what happened in las vegas? >> okay. okay. now, keep in mind, that this person is not just some lady selling qanon tracks on the side of the ride. she is a member of congress. green's prolific internet trail has come under increased scrutiny. now, in part after cnn on an old facebook post of house expresses
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support for executing house leader nancy pelosi. nbc news has not reviewed the posts, that are now deleted. after the follow-up from that, video has surfaced of her confronting parkland shooting survivor david hogg at capitol hill. >> you are using your lobby and the money behind it and the kids to try to take away my second amendment rights. you don't have anything to say for yourself? he's a coward. there is no defense for taking away guns. >> okay, now that behavior against a then 18-year-old is disgusting. but on her facebook post from one year earlier, agreeing with comments that the parkland school massacre was a false flag
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planned shooting. and while she demanded answers from david hogg in 2019, last night, the local news crew was escorted out of a town hall of a reporter asked her about internet hosts. this woman was elected to the congress. over 12,000 people have ever, ever served in that capacity in the entire history of the united states as a republic. she was elected by a 50% margin, which either means that a plastic doll could win in a republican district or his constituents this her views are a-okay. that this is what they want. the real question is for kevin mccarthy. is that what he wants? why do you take someone with this, with these views, on school shooters who would treat
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a 18-year-old kid like that and put her on the house education committee? we want to ask mr. mccarthy. he is down in florida meeting with his apparently his boss. a spokes american said greene's comments are deeply disturbing and that he could have a conversation with her. okay. while republicans remain silent as the qanon extreme nis her midst -- by the way, she is only one. today, speaker nancy pelosi torched republican leadership, meaning you, for overlooking greene's comments when handing out her committee assignment. >> assigning her to the education committee when she has
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mocked the killing of little children at sanity hook elementary school, when she has mocked the killing of teenagers in high school at the marjorie stone douglass high school, what can they be thinking? it's absolutely appalling. >> joining me now is david hogg, co-founder of march for our lives. david surprised the 2018 parkland school shooting which killed 17 people. i have so ask, how are you? have i not seen you in person since 2018. how are you? >> you know, just like millions of others of young people, trying to get through school online right now. it's a challenge and we're doing it and sadly our generation has to continue to persevere because of incompetent government
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leadership. gun violence or an out of control pandemic, more than any other developed country in the world, per capita. >> yeah, i mean, it's sad to me, that you guys have had to take up this activism on behalf of all of us, given what all of you face. i got to ask, what do you make of the fact that somebody like this who denied what happened to you and your friends happened at all. because people want to go in black helicopter with guns. winds up on the house committee. let me read you. prosht scott. he said house republicans have made disappointment and they must explain how someone of this background represents the party. he is sending a clear message to students, and educators. he is sending messages to someone like you. what do you think that she landed that assignment? >> i think it's absolutely
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horrific. and the only person i blame for it is kevin mccarthy, who is in florida, frolicking around with trump right now. and the people that he has a control over, that school shootings don't happen. that laser beams started fires in california. just horrific conspiracies. i'm calling on every republican, like my father, a former republican, i know all of them don't stand behind it. call on leader mccarthy to condemn the actions of marjorie taylor greene and prove you are able to put politics aside. our children should not dying in your schools n our communities and they should not be dying
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period because of gun violence. one of the things that frustrated me more than anything, the attention that need to be brought here are the communities that don't get attention about gun violence. it happens as a result of systemic racism in the country. what pisses me off, there are millions of parents across this country that have to have an empty bedroom that is untouched since the day their child died since an absolutely preventable issue like gun violence. it's on leaders like kevin mccarthy to bring people together, and we should all be able to agree on something in your country, the safety of the country. >> you talk about your dad being a former republican. and i think about the state of florida, where i lived for 14 years. not far from parkland, to be
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honest with you. and broward county, florida is run by republicans. you have marco rubio, you have mark desantos. they have been silent in the voice of nra. it feels like they didn't react too much to you because of the fears of the nra. do you get a sense talking to your dad, or does he get a sense, is this what republicans want? the marjorie taylor greene style politics, is this what most republicans believe in? or are they imposed on the party? >> i can't speak for all republicans but i can certainly say this is something that my father does not believe in and it's the reason he left the party after the shooting in my high school. he believes as a former law enforcement officer, he nopes that the gun laws do work. having a magazine reduction
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enables law enforcement to take care of a situation. than a hundred rounds magazine or 30 pounds. it's ridiculous that it's this way. i think are a lot of generalizations, but it's understanding considering the silence. if they are not happy with that, my message to kevin mccarthy is to speak out and prove you are not going to stand for someone like marjorie taylor greene. and with that, we need people in the fight with you. you can text rejin to 954954. it's a petition calling for marjorie taylor greene's resignation. i have to ask you, i hate to send you back in that moment in 2019. you are followed down the street. she is just some lady who is
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following you with a camera, who is making it clear she's got guns. and in is what she's able. and can you take us to where -- what did you think when she started following you? >> to be completely honest with you, this is something that happens very often. it's just this time, they were dumb enough to post it on youtube and got elected to congress, that it became news worthy. there are so many instances like that. i refuse to talk to them. and i hope it would have avoided someone like her getting in a position of power. but i can tell you, more than anything, what i was thinking about is the safety of our staff, and our friends around me. she's saying that i'm a coward. but she's the one attacking at the time a teenager with a gun, and basically, in directly threatening to kill him saying i have a concealed carry permit.
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she needs to realize that is a threat to us. it's a threat, it's intimidation and we will never let it stop us. >> i have to tell you, david hogg, this country with would be far better off if people like you start to get elected instead of this person. i want to thank you for your activism. you and the parkland people keep it in the forefront. i want to thank you. thank you for spending time with us this evening and be safe. >> there is one last thing i want to say. thank you to people who are republicans and have stood up, and renounced their nra member subpoena and renounced margegy taylor groen. thank you for having me on. >> yeah, indeed. and let's remind ourselves, the nra, they went bankrupt. it's because people who are not in politics stood up to them
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including yourself. david hogg, thank you very much. coming up next on the reidout, kevin -- everybody is to blame -- mccarthy heads to florida to kiss the dear leader's king, and they defend these who incited a coup because of their fear of maga voters and the threat of violence from the right. and new information about the planning that took place in the days before the maga crowd trashed our capitol. the reidout continues after this. idout continues after this non-steroidal anti-inflammatory gel... available over the counter. voltaren is powerful arthritis pain relief in a gel. voltaren. the joy of movement. i think the sketchy website i bought this turtle from stole all of my info. ooh, have you looked on the bright side? discover never holds you responsible for unauthorized purchases on your card. (giggling) that's my turtle.
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stormed the capitol. armed with pipes and flex cups as a makeshift gallo stood out. >> i thought the president had responsibility when it came to response. i think that everybody in the country has responsibility. >> mm-hmm. which brings us to today. instead of condemning marjorie taylor greene for accosting a survivor of a massacre. he is spent taxpayer money going to mar-a-lago going down there to kiss his ring. joining me now, progressor johnson, and michael steel,
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former chairman of the rnc. michael, we had a debate on your team meetings this morning and it's a back and forth whether the republican party has become is something they are -- tripped and fallen into, because oops, we need so many white voters it's going to mix in qanon people or whether they want it. alexandria ocasio-cortez, she tweeted, nope, you tried to get me killed. here she is explaining what the republican party become. >> there are no consequences in the republican caucus for violence. there's no consequences for
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racism, missogeny, and it means that silence is acceptance and they want it. >> mr. former chairman, mr. only black person who has been chairman of that party, where is the lie? >> where is the lie? well -- >> yeah n what she is. >> oh, there is no lie. she's not lying. oi would say to the good congresswoman if i was a member of the house, i would work with you on the very things the nation needs to move forward. as all good citizens are elected to office should do. let's be clear and it. she's not lying about it and where i change up where she's saying, it's not that those leaders condone it. they condone it and there are no consequences because that's
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where the base is. this is an extension of a response that runs deep within the party, and it's not new. it goes back. joy, you remember, you covered me when i was rnc chairman. you remember the day i gave the speech and said, guess what? the southern strategy's over. this is not what republican party is. there was a deliberate reason for saying it and giving speech at the time because i want to break that link, not just reagan bringing the majority in the party in the 1980 campaign or what mixon did embracing white segregation, because johnson, who was a segregationist himself, not just that, going back to the goldwater speech in
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the '64 campaign in which he embraced the john birch society. we have tried to break in and break that strangle hold. but along comes trump, doubles down and i guess what that's what it it's about right now. >> yeah, i mean, jason johnson, michael steel and i have talked about it in religious terms, the golden calf. when they joseph and aaron face the children of israel, sayed they, your god takes too long. we have this calf here, we can see here. that is where we're going to feel affirmed. like, we're going with the golden calf. but it's not the calf. it's the worshippers that create the problem. i mean, when aoc tweeted that
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today, the people on the right came for her and said, you know, maybe you should blame bernie sanders for -- bernie sanders never said that steve caleese is a threat to the count. i don't think we have jason's audio. let's get him back on this. and senator sanders, he has critiqued the billionaire class. he never said he's a threat to the republic. go storm the baseball game. it's a false equivalency that is fake. if you want to talk steve skallease, he got elected. there is something wrong with the voters. >> that's the rub of it there. you set it up very concisely. you have shown now how this thing works. you have a base that is driving
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a certain narrative. you have a leadership that are not leading. they're afraid to actually step in and counterman the thinking and the nonsense and the noise from not the entire base. that's the other thing. there are a wide swath of republicans that are sitting there, swatching their heads. they are leaving their party in significant numbers. you just had david hogg on the show who said my dad was one of those republicans and left after what happened in any neighborhood, in my school because of the response of the party, and the tragedy that befell us. you have basically the tail wagging the dog and that's a big part of the problem. i will turn it to jason. he's back up. he has something to say. >> i know he does. jason, we got your audio back. telling you, the aliens came to get you. we got you back. you're being muzzled in a prime
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time tv -- >> i'm being censored. this is cancel culture. >> stop canceling jason! >> exactly. right here, right now. this is the thing that is so crazy about this. i think i overheard part of who you were saying. it's not just pandering. it's not doing something about marjorie greene. it's such a cynical way to look at the country. kevin mccarthy, he basically says the majority of america i actually want to serve is an america that wanted to kill mike pence. the majority of the america i want to serve is an america that wanted to kill alexandria ocasio-cortez. he is saying those are the type of people who wants to represent. and barack obama said that we don't want a word where politicians are choosing
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constituents. john mccain in 2008 said i don't want people up here voting for me. there is a way that you can run as a politician and differentiate yourself from the lesser and more despicable elements. and to reward people. he didn't do anything to marjorie greene. he put her on the education committee. it's like putting jeffrey daulmer in charge of your kids. >> this is where they think they can get votes. it's true as marco rub coe, ted cruz and the qanon lady. jason johnson, going to cancel you with a commercial break. michael steel, thank you very much. i appreciate you both.
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that is according to a terrorism advisory released yesterday by the department of homeland security warning more attacks can follow the deadly capitol insurrection. meanwhile, three charges and one defendant with ties with an extremist group. they are cautioning the proud boys to determine to what extent they may have planned in advance. they have found a home in the republican party, and the guardian dubbed them useful thugs to the now former president. we are reporting a former gathering of the president's d.c. hotel on the eve of the cal toll siege. according to a former official post on media, members of the former president's family were there, allegedly, with loyalists like michael flynn and others
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that night including senator tommy tuberville. a spokesman says he did not attend a private meeting with those individuals. joining me, congresswoman from florida. it's great to have you here because of your current job and former job in law enforcement. i have to ask you as an elected official, what does it mean to you having gone through that capitol siege that we're having to ask questioning about whether elected officials that you serve with in the house of the senate might have somehow been knowledgeable about it. >> it's great to be back with you, and you know, if people are still trying to understand what happened on january 6th, all they have to do is take a look at the video and images from that day. as a 27-year law enforcement sfishl, i could not believe we
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were trying to duck or flee to safety while the angry mob orbly break out glass and were trying to break into the house floor. absolutely unbelievable. and then if that wasn't bad enough, to learn, and i do believe -- there are multiple investigations going on, but i do believe that those within congress or their staff members participated in making sure that the angry mob was ready that day, knew where they were going, knew who they were looking for. we flow are communications about where certain members where. there are investigations we will get to the bottom of. and i don't care what position you're in. anybody who participated in that day. whether you part of an angry mob or you enabled them, should be held accountable. >> do you think that investigation should include that january 5th meeting to
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figure out who was there? michael flynn was talking about using the insurrection act and other violent scenarios. do you they meet shg be investigated? >> it really has to be. everything -- when a crime occur, we go backwards. with go back and we review what was going on during the days, weeks, months leading up to that event. and so it is critical that we clearly understand the meetings the day before, tours taken place, trying to find out what the conversations were. it is critical to the investigation, and while it may take a while to get there, i do believe every person who was involved or enabled must be held accountable and brought to justice. >> let's talk a bit about want proud boys. enrique is a floridian. there seems to be a florida
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connection. we have seen the proud boys attack the speaker of the house when she was in miami. we know they were active in the state of florida. are you concerned that because florida is also attracting so much of the white wing politics, so many of the people, including the retired former president, are you concerned that florida is going to become a base for this anti-democracy crypto fascist activity? >> i think that every state in the union should be concerned about this type of negative entity, if you will, setting up shop in their state. the president -- if we go back to the presidential debate, the president said stand back and stand by, and the proud boys said that. the president had 49 other choices to set up shop. he chose florida. we know the proud boys participated in the
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insurrection. the attack, those who lost their lives on january 6th. we know they are organized and here in the state of florida, and so we certainly need to continue this investigation, and certainly look in florida to see how much they knew, again, who assisted them. we can't just stop at florida. we have to look at every state. >> yeah, i have to put your law enforcement hat on again. enrico, we have heard he is a police informant. that puts him in an awkward position, there are factions in the white proud boys who would like it to be more white. he is afro cuban. can you use that to crack into the organization? >> you know, i really think we have to use every tool that we can at every bit of information
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that we can. it's interesting to see him move from being someone who apparently cooperated with the fbi and now finds himself in a situation that he is in. but i do think again it is critical that we use that information, every tool that we have, to really get to the bottom of what happened on january 6th so we can set up, you know, a place -- come to a place where it will never happen again. >> absolutely. congress woman val deming, if you decide you want to trade up and can you come back and let us know first? >> let me just say this, joy. there is clearly a lack of leadership on the gop side. in the house and in the senate. what was once a place where adam schiff said, giants stood, we
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have mere shadows of men. there is a leadership void. we will see what happens. >> that sounds like a maybe. congresswoman val demming, we appreciate you. be safe. i have sad news to share. ground breaking cicely tyson known for her oscar nominated role in "sounders," passed away today at the age of 96. we are so sorry for the loss, really a loss to us all and also to her family. we will be right back after this. k after this nicorette knows, quitting smoking is hard. you get advice like: just stop. get a hobby. you should meditate. go for a run. go for 10 runs! run a marathon. are you kidding me?!
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did. and today, biden signed to strengthen the medicaid and expanded access to health care. >> today we're about to sign two executive orders to undo the damage that trump has done. there is nothing new we are doing here other than restoring the affordable care act and restoring the medicaid to the way it was before trump became president. he changed, made more inaccessible. >> biden opened the federally run health insurance marketplace from february to may to help potentially millions of americans acquire health insurance coverage. joining me now is a global policy expert. okay, i have a couple questions for you. to start with dr. gupta, thanks for being here. we are hearing the pentagon may
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send troops to help distribute vaccines through about 100 vaccine sites. we are hearing from reuters the biden administration wants to allow retired doctors to give vaccines. good ideas, those two things? >> good evening, good see you. they are wonderful ideas, and this is exactly what we need. we need a whole society approach. and the military, i was in the air force, we have a ton of skills of setting up triage clinics on the play. pop-up clinics. there are a lot of capabilities that are not used. i'm glad we're using it and we need more public partnerships. we are seeing health systems partner with industry to scale -- have mass vaccination clinics. great examples here in seattle this past weekend. i'm glad they are starting out with this type of approach.
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this is a race against time. >> it's a race -- i think of the coronavirus vaccine as the alien in the movie aliens. it jumps in your body and i morphs, like in the movie. now we are seeing this south africa variant. we have seen it in south carolina. it maybe deadlier. i want to talk about masks. i never leave home without my masks. i want to show you a few different kinds. i brought props here. i have a kn-95. this is the kn-95 mask and i have the n-95 mask. that is this one. the n-95 mask and i have what a lot of people wear, the cloth mask.
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i like black panther. in if i go with this instead of the k-95, do i need to pair it, double it up with this mask? this is the other mask that people wear. >> you know, i brought my own props. i'm going to answer your props with my own. if you're wearing a clothe mask, wear one with at least a few layers and have a zip tie or ability, if you have ear loops on the mask, have something where you can tighten the ear loop so you have a tight, snug fit, and you have put a mask on top. the kn-95 mask is noninferior. it's good, the problem there is the fit. it still has ear loops. i say the cloth mask, the thick clothe mask, where you have ear loops that you can tighten, followed by a three-ply medical
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mask, it's nice bang for your buck and a one-two punch of quality. where you have filtration and a tight fit, and n-95s are in short supply, and there people keep them on? a lot of people have difficulty breathing in them. since we don't have as much access, you want a tight cloth mask with a blue mask on top and try to tighten the ear loops. you were bringing up something that is vital. transmission reduction. we are focused on vaccination because that is the way out of the pandemic. but we don't have to lose 200,000 plus americas. here are the things that we should focus on. still, 47 states in the union have indoor dining with a concerning variant, and 4,000 deaths a day. we need to revisit the wisdom of
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that. versus pausing for 8 to 12 weeks until we approach herd immunity. high risk teachers. they are forced to get back in schools, get them a vaccine to protect. and those who had moderate symptoms, and mild to moderate symptoms, go to covid.infusioner in, you can get access to an antibody that might save your life. >> all right, great information. you heard dr. gupta, mask up, double up. get the mask with multiple layers. listen to this man. he knows what he's talking about. be safe, appreciate you. coming up next, it is a long overdue populous -- is it a long overdue populous up rising
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remember that time barely anyone showed up to the former president's rally after his staff claimed to have registered more than a million tickets? at the time tiktok users took partial credit for it claiming to have registered hundreds of thousands of tickets as a prank. that's the power of the internet. a group of traders on reddit disrupted wall street. they noticed that the big hedge funds were shorting or betting against the success of companies like video game retailer goldman sachs and amc the theater giant and decided to band together and buy stocks in the companies and drive up prices and causing them to lose a lot of money. the app that many were using
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opinion robin hood restricted any further trading in the companies after causing big losses for the hedge funds. democratic senator brown of ohio the incoming chair of the senate banking committee promising an investigation into the situation noting that people on wall street only care about the rules and they're the ones hurt. late today robin hood said they'll allow limited stock buys of the companies starting tomorrow. joining me is taylor lorentz. thank you so much for being here. one of my favorite quotes about what happened here comes from an evangelical pastor in california. he and his wife apparently made $117 off gamestop and described a sense of frustration according to your reporting at how well those in the finance usual sector have done since 2008 and
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said there's a catharsis to making money off the pain and his wife said eat the rich. that was your reporting today. can you give us a background, who started this and why? is it just an eat the rich game? >> that's part of it. it was started by an online company on reddit called wall street bets and this is a community with millions of users that's been pretty popular for a couple years at this point. it is basically a community of day traders, they use robin hood, not licensed financial brokers, most of them, their whole kind of ethos is we the people. we'll decide what companies have value and they kind of -- with gamestop kind of adopted it as this kind of, you know, i guess face of the broader movement to kind of take a swipe at the hedge funds. >> yeah.
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of course, gamestop being at least for my big kids that's the favorite thing of young people, sitting at home buying stuff off gamestop. let's listen to elizabeth warren who's talking a lot about this issue today and she is talking about there needing to be rules of market manipulation. hedge funders make money betting against companies to fail and when they get burned they're like, wait a minute, don't do that. here's elizabeth warren. >> right. >> all of a sudden, the billionaires and some hedge funds are yelling because they're not the ones, only ones, who make money when the manipulation works but remember the other half of this. there are going to be a lot of people to lose money around this, a lot of money that they can't afford to lose. this is why we need an s.e.c. that has clear rules about market manipulation and then has the backbone to go in and enforce those rules. >> i think that's the concern
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that i have, too, taylor, that a lot of people that played this game won in the short term but ultimately lose a lot of money and out money that they need whereas the super rich just refix up the market again and get richer. >> exactly. there are people that were putting really just all of the money they have into this. whether it's $200, $1,000. even $15. that's the beauty of robin hood is to invest the really small amounts but, of course, allowing everybody into the market can end up with some pretty bad consequences. >> yeah. are there -- have you already seen sort of seeds of sort of a backlash to the way that it's played out? are the reddit community saying this didn't work out for us and what might they do next? >> there's a huge backlash. i would say the internet exploded when robin hood announced they were halting trades and some showed up at the
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headquarters in california and protesting outside the s.e.c. in d.c. and very angry. they feel totally slighted and able to get a piece of the pie where they had kind of collectively manipulated the stock price and maybe were going to make money from the system and feel like robin hood flipped and caved to the big banks and ultimately screwed them over. >> because they did. i guess that's the other bigger picture here. was the lesson that it is rigged? the thing that's rigged is not politics and necessarily the elections. that is not rigged. wall street is rigged, for the rich. >> absolutely. this is what we keep seeing time and time again is that, you know, when the big banks need a bailout they get it. when the little people need just maybe few hundred dollars back they might not have invested quite so wisely or the market fell out in a different way, they don't have that and also people struggling, some gambling
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stimulus checks because they would rather buy a lottery ticket in terms of investing than, you know -- spend that money in different ways. >> yeah. no. absolutely. it's definitely a lesson learned. taylor lorentz, thank you so much for being here. appreciate you. "all in with chris hayes" starts now. tonight on "all in" -- >> kevin mccarthy answers to the qanon members of congress, not the other way around. >> new warnings about the enemy inside congress. >> we will probably need a supplemental for more security for members when the enemy is within the house of representatives. >> tonight, california democrat jimmy gomez on the resolution to expel a qanon conspiracy theorist from congress. three weeks after the riot what we don't know about security inside the capitol.
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