tv Dateline Extra MSNBC February 6, 2021 10:00pm-11:00pm PST
10:00 pm
>> i texted him. he wasn't answering. i arrived at the office. i could see that something was really, really wrong. i called somebody that steve worked with. he said steve's been shot. and i said, did he survive? he said no. >> steve pitt was unforgettable. >> i think he's one of a kind. he just completely broke the mold. >> he was the first to die that week. hunted down by a man with a gun and a grudge. >> i felt that when this shooter
10:01 pm
crossed steve off that he was moving down a list. >> a long list. >> he headed towards my vehicle. there was blood dripping from her face. >> six murders. >> my gut dropped. >> in four days. >> homicide investigation was in overdrive, wasn't it? >> it was. >> a city under siege. >> there was a lot of fear. there was a will the of unrest in the community. people were desperate for a suspect. >> who else could have been on that list? >> i had my own personal terrorist. >> and why? >> people don't get gunned down in their offices. there had to have been a link. >> the most haunting question of them all, could those lives have been saved? >> steve always says things don't happen in a vacuum. so losing him the way we did was stunning to me. >> they heard shots. >> for a stretch of nearly four
10:02 pm
days the fear was palpable and paralyzing. >> the twists and turns don't end there. >> a killer was on the loose in and around phoenix, arizona, systematically shooting victims. >> a mass manhunt under way. >> reporter: >> police worked around the clock, desperate for leads. >> we're having the public the remain vigilant. >> did any of it have to happen? because this was a tragedy many saw coming, including the first and most high profile victim. >> he was like nobody else i ever met, and that's true to this day. >> back in 2002 natalie collins was a young lawyer defending a medical malpractice case when she met a forensic psychologist named steven pitt. >> he was honest. you got his opinion whether you wanted it or not, but he was
10:03 pm
fair. >> pitt was known for his work on cases like the columbine massacre be the murder of jonbenet ramsey. his interest in natalie was personal as well as professional. when they met a few years later, he asked her to lunch. >> i took him up on the offer and it was hours. it was fabulous. i loved it. >> hours turned into years. they got engaged. >> he was a brilliant forensic psychologist, but he was, in my biassed opinion, an even better human being. >> steve had two sons with his ex-wife, and they were the center of his world. >> he would say to the boys, work hard, don't say can't, be nice, and have fun. >> steve was a master at devilling into someone's mind, understanding what made them tick. >> no matter who retained him or what they wanted him to say, he would always tell you what he really thought. i'm sure you noticed that about
10:04 pm
him. >> my name is dr. steven s-t-e-v-e-n pitt. >> i interviewed him about the jonbenet case. >> i gave you gad answers. >> three of them. >> a big guy are a sense of humor to match. >> that was so good how you did that. >> through that, we got to know one another. >> when i met him and he said to me, let's be friends i'll come to lngs and we can hang out. i thought, absolutely. >> he could get anybody's story. but he he was always interested in everybody's story. he never treated the world like a zero sum game. he was always, always happy for people's victories and accolades. >> and even though he was smarter than just about everybody, it was pretty clear to me he was one of the smartest people i had ever met.
10:05 pm
and i don't recall him ever acting that way. >> i would wholeheartedly agree with that. one of the amazing things and talents steve had was he could see not only the good in even but he could see and believe even had something special to offer. >> he was also unbashedly interest in the crime and criminals. >> he read a lot of history about serial killers, and i think he felt that his skills were really well suited to that area. he didn't scare easy. >> steve was aware some criminals he dealt with might oppose a threat. >> i can recall a couple of specific instances where he showed me a photograph and said, if you see the person anywhere near you, you are to call the police. he always used to say, you have to have situational awareness so. he would teach me about remembering where things were, watching for things. >> not just walking around blindly looking at your phone or on a call.
10:06 pm
>> exactly. >> still, he always tried to calm natalie's nerves. >> i remember a dinner where he said to me, babe, relax. in these situations, there are bigger fish to fry than me. they will always go after a judge or an attorney before they ever come to me, so you don't need to worry. because we'll always have a warning. i will always have a warning. and i will know what to do. so -- this circumstance, losing him the way that we did, was -- stunning to me. >> one of the rare times he was ever wrong. >> yeah. >> thursday, may 31, 2018. i had seen steve about a week before. natalie, of course, saw him that morning. they made plans to meet after
10:07 pm
work. >> at 5:18 i texted him and said, are you on your way? are you coming? and he said ten minute max and i'll see you there. >> half an hour went by. then an hour. still no steve. >> that was unlike him. and so i drove to his office. as i arrived at the office, i could see that something was really, really wrong. >> she saw the police and the yellow tape. >> i could see his range rover in the parking lot, and i could see there were things strewn on the ground, and i was hoping it was maybe medical supplies. i thought maybe they're working on him or somebody, but i just knew there was something wrong with him. >> cops weren't telling her anything, and natalie was getting desperate. >> i called somebody who steve worked with who was a police officer, and asked him, like, what is happening? and he -- i could hear from his voice -- sorry -- and he said, something really bad's happened.
10:08 pm
steve's been shot. and i said nothing for a second. and then i said, did he survive? and he said no. and i don't really remember much after that. >> a man had confronted steve as he left work to meet natalie. witnesses reported hearing shouts and then gunfire. based on witness descriptions, phoenix pd developed this sketch of the suspect, a white male, bald, wearing a dark hat with a short brim. did that look like anybody you knew? >> no. >> and it didn't look like any of the people steve had shown you photos of over the years saying, if you ever see this person -- >> absolutely not. >> natalie stayed at the scene until around 4:00 a.m. as she prepared to leave, something occurred to her. >> because the shooter was still not in custody, i did ask several officers whether it was safe for me to go home.
10:09 pm
one of them said, we don't know the answer to that, ma'am. >> they also didn't know just how much worse it was going to get. coming up -- >> she came running forwards my vehicle. there was blood dripping from her face. >> and natalie has a hunch. >> i knew there would be a link. >> when "run ravelled" continues. ♪ ♪ smooth driving pays off. ♪ with allstate, the safer you drive the more you save. ♪ you never been in better hands. allstate. click or call for a quote today. new advil dual action with acetaminophen you never been in better hands. fights pain in two ways. advil targets pain at the source... ...while acetaminophen blocks pain signals. the future of pain relief is here. new advil dual action.
10:10 pm
hey, dad! hey, son! no dad, it's a video call. you got to move the phone in front of you like..like it's a mirror, dad. you know? alright, okay. how's that? is that how you hold a mirror? [ding] power e*trade gives you an award-winning mobile app with powerful, easy-to-use tools and interactive charts to give you an edge, 24/7 support when you need it the most and $0 commissions for online u.s. listed stocks. don't get mad. get e*trade and start trading today.
10:11 pm
want to brain better? unlike ordinary memory supplements— neuriva has clinically proven ingredients that fuel 5 indicators of brain performance. memory, focus, accuracy, learning, and concentration. try our new gummies for 30 days and see the difference. new year's resolutions come and go. so give your business more than resolutions... give it solutions, from comcast business. work more efficiently with fast internet and advanced wifi. make your business safer with powerful cybersecurity solutions. and stay productive with 24/7 support. make this year's resolution better solutions. bounce forward with comcast business. get started with a powerful internet and voice solution for just $64.90 a month. plus, for a limited time, ask how to get a $500 prepaid card when you upgrade. switch today.
10:12 pm
10:13 pm
right behind us. >> reporter: paralegal valeria scott than at work at this practice when someone came in and shot her in the head. she managed to get outside. someone saw her and manage to call 911. >> she came running towards my vehicle. there was blood dripping on her face. she laid down on the ground. >> emts rushed her to the hospital but could not save her life. scotsdale police follow the trail of her blood back to the law office and discovered a second victim, paralegal laura anderson. she had been shot in the chest and was already dead. two women murdered in broad daylight, another unlikely crime scene about ten miles from the spot where steve pitt was killed. valeria's husband. >> i can remember the officer asking me a question like, like,
10:14 pm
no, no, no. >> reporter: >> natalie collins was at home, still in shock over steve's murder when she heard the news. >> i knew there would be a link between steve's murders and those mur murders. because people don't get gunned down in their offices in scotsdale. >> natalie was right. >> scotsdale police confirmed to us the seen on thursday and friday were connected. >> a .30 caliber weapon had been use in the had had of steve pitt. same gun killed the paralegals. and then about ten hours after the paralegals were killed -- >> about ten minutes after midnight this morning, we received a call of a shooting at the business complex behind me. >> an adult male shot twice in the head at an office seven miles from the law firm. >> doorbell rang. wanted to ignore it because it's
10:15 pm
the middle of the night. >> it was 3:00 a.m. psychotherapist karen's husband went to the door. >> police are here. marshall has been found dead in the office. >> reporter: the latest victim, 27-year-old marshall levine was a counselor and life coach. he was subletting his office from karen. >> we sat down with the offers, and they wanted to know what kind of kleins was he seeing and what was his practice like. >> the assumption was this was about marshall. >> yeah. >> i'm wonder field goal you felt more of a threat after the second and third murder scenes are announced. >> honestly i was scared but i also knew, or believed, that this was personal, and i felt in my heart of hearts that when this shooter crossed steve off his list that he was moving down
10:16 pm
a list. >> if the killer did have a list, police were racing to find out, why were these people on it? what did they have in common? investigators collected shell casings at karen's office and discovered they were .40 caliber. same as the other two. four murders in 40 hours. all possibly committed by the same person. there was one promising clue -- dna on a shell casing recovered at the scene of steve pitts' murder. investigators ran it through their system, but there was no match. by 10:00 a.m. sad morning police opened an emergency center and tips were pouring in. >> there was a killer on the loose be the public was concerned. >> someone as going around the phoenix area killing people. we don't really know what connects them, but he seems to be doing it pretty at will. >> right. >> that's got to be frightening.
10:17 pm
>> it was. and there was a lot of fear and unrest in the community, and people were desperate for a suspect. >> no one yet knew about this man 200 miles away watching the news of the murders unfold. he was a former phoenix police detective, and he had a sudden sicken feeling. >> i was certain who it was. coming up -- you were 18, he was 22. >> correct. >> your first boyfriend? >> yes. >> the start of something very evil. >> i had my own terrorist. my own personal terrorist. >> when "unravelled" continues. s all in on the sports sedan. lease the 2021 is 300 for $359 a month for thirty nine months. experience amazing at your lexus dealer. at visionworks, we want you to feel safe for thirty nine months. and we want you to see yourself in your new glasses and think, "ooh!" but if you get home and your "ooh" is more of a "hmm..."
10:18 pm
you have 100 days to change your mind. that's the visionworks difference. visionworks. see the difference. look at this human trying to get in shape. you know what he will get? muscle pain. give up, the couch is calling. i say, it's me, the couch, i'm calling. pain says you can't. advil says you can. ♪♪ if you have moderate to severe psoriasis or psoriatic arthritis, little things can become your big moment. that's why there's otezla.
10:19 pm
otezla is not an injection or a cream. it's a pill that treats differently. for psoriasis, 75% clearer skin is achievable, with reduced redness, thickness, and scaliness of plaques. for psoriatic arthritis, otezla is proven to reduce joint swelling, tenderness, and pain. and the otezla prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring. don't use if you're allergic to otezla. it may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. otezla is associated with an increased risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts or if these feelings develop. some people taking otezla reported weight loss. your doctor should monitor your weight and may stop treatment. upper respiratory tract infection and headache may occur. tell your doctor about your medicines and if you're pregnant or planning to be. ♪♪ otezla. show more of you. wanna build a gaming business that breaks the internet? that means working night and day... ...and delegating to an experienced live bookkeeper for peace of mind. your books are all set. so you can finally give john some attention.
10:20 pm
trusted experts. guaranteed accurate books. intuit quickbooks live. the lexus es, now available with all-wheel drive. this rain is bananas. lease the 2021 es 250 all-wheel drive for $349 a month for thirty six months. experience amazing at your lexus dealer. four murders in three days. police were on a desperate hunt to find the killer. some 200 miles away, rick anglen. he spent a lifetime in law enforcement. started out at the phoenix police department, worked under
10:21 pm
cover. even became a private investigator. when he heard about steve pitts' murder -- >> it had to be related to his work. >> he worked on criminal cases, so the universe of suspects was vast. then he heard about the murder of the two parallels in scotsdale and that universe shrank. >> once they announced on the news it was elizabeth feldman's office, i was sure who it was. >> you knew. >> i knew. >> knew how they were connected and who was behind the murders. rick knew because years earlier he took on the case of a scotsdale doctor named connie jones. >> yes, i had my own terrorist, my own personal terrorist. >> connie was on summer break from college in 1984 when she started dating a young soldier named dwight jones, stationed at ft. bragg, north carolina.
10:22 pm
>> you were 18, he was 22. >> correct. young. too young. >> your first boyfriend. >> yes. he told me he wanted to be an attorney. so he seemed to have aspirations. >> they married in 1988 after her first year of medical school. dwight left the army after three years. and soon connie realized that while she was working hard to become a doctor, dwight was doing nothing. >> i don't recall him ever working more than two or three days. because every job that he would get there would be some issue. so we lived in medical school on my financial aid. >> that's probably not how you grew up. >> that is not -- my family has the best work ethic you can think of. >> after medical school connie began a residency in psychiatry but found it hit too clez close to home.
10:23 pm
her own husband was mentally ill. >> he was depressed. he would stay in bed for three or four days. then he became hostile towards me. >> what form did that take? >> verbal abuse, emotional abuse. if he were mad he would not talk for a tweak punish me. connie switched to radiology and encouraged dwight to seek treatment. >> i wanted to help him. >> dwight refused. she said she endured eight years of escalating hostility and verbal abuse. she told dwight she wanted a divorce. >> he laid on the floor for three days crying and said it was his mental illness, that he loved me, that he didn't want to lose me, and that he would do whatever he needed to do. >> so connie stayed. and in 1997, she gave birth to a son. >> after the child was born, he
10:24 pm
actually seemed to be better. >> being a father was good for him. >> it was. it did seem to give him a purpose. >> dwight watched their child during the day, but connie says he still left most of the care giving to her. and soon enough, connie says dwight's emotional abuse worsened. he came obsessive and controlling. >> after i had my son i thought it was my obligation to try to make this work. i really did not see myself in life as a divorced person. >> how do you make things work when you have no idea who's coming home at night. >> the garage door would open, and we didn't know what we were getting. >> dr. jekyll or mr. hyde. >> right, we didn't know whether we were getting someone coming in angry and aggressive, cussing, or we got someone who won a tennis game that day, and now he's a happy guy.
10:25 pm
>> dwight's good times became more and more rare. then he began to abuse her physically. but at the same time, carefully. >> you know, if you punch someone in the eye, that sort of thing, it's obvious you're being abused, but hitting you with the forearm, physically holding me down, pushing me into walls, those things don't leave bruises, but they are very violent. >> he did all those things to you? >> he did. >> and sometimes it did leave a mark. at the time she says dwight broke her sternum. >> he hit me with the ball of his hand in the chest. >> and you didn't call the police. >> i didn't. >> because? >> at that time i did not have a plan of exit. and i had no evidence to support that he was abusive. >> and you had a child. >> and i had a child.
10:26 pm
>> that has to be a terrifying feeling. >> it is when you're -- >> to be in a house with somebody who is abusing you and you have a child and you can't just pick up and leave. or at least you feel like you probably can't do that. and maybe nobody's going to believe you if you do. >> i was sleeping with a knife under my pillow because i thought he was so out of control. >> by early 2009 connie says dwight was directing his anger and threats at his child. particularly murder pseudoof suicide of himself and the child so i would suffer the rest of my life knowing that my child is dead because i didn't do what he said. >> connie knew she needed to get out, but she also knew a woman who had been killed trying to leave her abusive boyfriend some connie made plans to escape in secret. >> i start preparing to get some of my important paper work to
10:27 pm
another location, some clothes and things that we might need. >> that's when she consulted family law attorney elizabeth feldman, a the name rick anglen recognized from the news years later. connie also placed audio recorders around her home. >> so if things seemed to be heated so i could document what he was doing. >> that's what happened on the night of may 6, 2009. >> he's over this 11-year-old child, and he has this finger to his chest in his face yelling at him. and so i said, you know, leave him alone. he's calling me every name you can think of. >> on the tape you can hear dwight threatening to kill connie. >> then if i called --
10:28 pm
>> if i called 911 that i'd be dead before they got there. >> connie did call 911, and swat teams surrounded the house, but dwight held his son hostage and wouldn't leave. >> you must have been terried at that point. >> yes, i did not on the pate that he would hold him hostage. he told the police officers he was helping him with an asthma attack. why someone else can't be in there wheel you help him with an asthma attack you don't know. >> you're the physician. >> right. >> after an hour long standoff, dwight finally surrendered. >> so, as he walked out, the child was physically in front of him. >> like a shield. >> like a shield. he was inconsolable. as a mother, to see your child in that distress, it's --
10:29 pm
it's pretty devastating. >> dwight was arrested and connie filed for divorce. often that means the end of something. instead it was just the beginning of the worst chapter in connie's relationship with dwight jones. coming up -- >> connie reaches out for help. >> i had people full-time on school. where the son goes. if connie went to work, someone where she was working. >> but would that be enough to protect her from dwight? >> he told me he would wait until my defenses were down. do.
10:30 pm
trelegy for copd. ♪ birds flyin' high you know how i feel ♪ ♪ breeze drifting on by you know how i feel ♪ [man: coughing] ♪ it's a new dawn, it's a new day... ♪ no matter how you got copd it's time to make a stand. ♪ ...and i'm feelin' good ♪ start a new day with trelegy. no once-daily copd medicine has the power to treat copd in as many ways as trelegy. with three medicines in one inhaler, trelegy helps people breathe easier and improves lung function. it also helps prevent future flare-ups. trelegy won't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden breathing problems. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking it. do not take trelegy more than prescribed. trelegy may increase your risk of thrush, pneumonia, and osteoporosis. call your doctor if worsened breathing, chest pain, mouth or tongue swelling, problems urinating, vision changes, or eye pain occur. it's time to start a new day. ask your doctor about once-daily trelegy.
10:31 pm
and save at trelegy.com. ask your doctor about once-daily trelegy. ever notice how stiff clothes can feel rough on your skin? for softer clothes that are gentle on your skin, try downy free & gentle. downy will soften your clothes without dyes or perfumes. the towel washed with downy is softer, and gentler on your skin. try downy free & gentle. oroweat bread. gathering, baking and delivering the goodness of nature... from one generation to the next and from seed to slice. ♪ ahhh. ahhh. ahhh. ah. ♪
10:32 pm
oroweat bread. gathering, baking and delivering the goodness of nature... from one generation to the next and from seed to slice. ♪ ahhh. ahhh. ahhh. ah. ♪ hello. i'm dara brown. here's what's happening. there are more than 27 million confirmed cases of covid in the u.s. and more than 463,000 americans died from the virus. the biden administration is deploying troops to help with
10:33 pm
the vaccination process. 7.5 million are fully inoculated with both doses. the biden administration will -- efforts to address vaccine hesitancy. now back to "dateline." dr. connie jones spent 22 years married to a mentally ill and abusive husband. she was about to learn her personal ordeal might have led to a crisis for a whole city. >> i'll take you out this [ bleep ] and put you in the ground. >> after the standoff with police in scotsdale, arizona, dwight jones was arrested on multiple charges but ultimately pleaded guilty to a single order of misconduct. >> it's minimal. it's like being a disturbance to
10:34 pm
your neighborhood. it's not holding your child hostage for an hour. >> dwight was also committed to a mental institution for evaluation. connie remembers the report on dwight said he was not an imminent threat. >> but the psychiatrist who evaluated him called me and told me he was dangerous and that i should get a body guard. >> enter him. >> enter richard angler. >> connie hired rick, the cop turned private investigator, to do surveillance on dwight and assess how much of a threat he posed. rick and his team tailed dwight. they combed through dwight's cluttered, debris filled home. and found books with seriously disturbing titles. >> how to get even with people. how to injure people in street
10:35 pm
fighting. >> it sounding to me the more you look at dwight jones, the more frightening he seemed. >> absolutely. in a threat assessment there's four things you look for. number one, the intelligence of the person. you're going look at the resources the person has available you're going to look at his ability to use guidance such as trackers and spyware on a phone or computer. >> did he have that? >> he this intent. he had detection. lastly, the violence. he clearly has demonstrated violence. when i piece all those things together and his research into violent acts, i'm looking at somebody i need to be careful of. >> he made sure she and her son always had eyes on them. >> i had people full-time at the school where the son goes. if connie went to the grocery
10:36 pm
store, if she had a public event, went to work, somebody with her. >> that has to be phenomenally expensive. >> when the life of your child is at risk, money can't be the final decision-maker. >> he moved connie and her son among three remote safe houses. >> this is like a chess game. >> very much. i have to anticipate ten steps ahead of him. >> it was during the battle for custody of their child that dwight and connie met with a forensic psychologist. steven interviewed their interviews with them as part of the custody case. >> i thought he was exceptional. his rapport i thought was very detailed and accurate. >> dr. pitt's report matched what rick had come to believe about dwight jones. without psychiatric intervention and treatment, mr. jones' mental
10:37 pm
state is going to continue to unravel. he'll become increasingly paranoid, likely psychotic and pose a greater risk for perpetrating violence. >> connie had take anne order of protection that once again prohibited him from owning guns. >> this case is the scariest case i've ever been involved in. >> remember karen? the therapist awakened in the middle of the night by the cops? she worked with connie and dwight's son for two years starting in 200 9. >> divorces with a dime a dozen. >> this was something else. >> violence that had already been committed. someone who was clearly on a path to commit more violence. >> the trial went to trial in family court. in 2010, the judge granted
10:38 pm
connie full custody of her son. >> i'm reading through the decree, sign sounded good so far. >> you're thinking he'll have no contact. instead, what? >> it says he's mandated to have supervised with him, that he has a parental right to see him. >> what did you think when you read that? >> shocked. it didn't make sense to me. they took his right as a parent even over the safety of a child. >> what's more, under arizona law, dwight was entitled to spousal support -- in this case, $6,000 a month. >> he threatened you, he hit you, he says he's going to murder you, he says he's going to murder your child. tough pay him spousal support. >> yes. >> and you're on the hook for his attorneys. >> yes. yes. and i have to pay for the supervised visitations because he's a threat. >> what did this all cost you
10:39 pm
financially? >> well, what he got was over $650,000. >> there came a point where connie could no longer afford my services or anybody else's. i couldn't walk away. >> because you think if you're not there she's going get killed. >> you really don't need to be dr. pitt to come up with a determination of what would eventually happen. >> their worries increased in 2013 when connie's final protective order against dwight expired and he was able to legally purchase a gun. >> he told me that he would wait until my defenses were down, and then he would get me. >> by then, connie started carrying a gun of her own. rick trained her how to use it. if and when the day came that dwight confronted her. >> i prepared her for it mentally, physically, and emotionally. she's trained for it. >> the court ordered dwight get psychological help.
10:40 pm
there's no evidence he complied. instead, dwight isolated himself at this extended stay hotel for years. >> connie built a successful career as a radiologist. she even wrote a book on breast cancer screening. by 2016 dwight's spousal support ended. so had the visits with her son. connie no longer had to see her ex husband in court. she and rick remained hypervigilant. >> you can't just go to the movies. you've got scan the parking lot. >> when rick saw the news about steve pitt and the two paralegals at elizabeth feldman's law firm, he came to an undenial law firm. >> i was certain who it was. it's dwight jones. >> his first thought with you, he had to find connie. >> i immediately start text her to call me, start calling my phone. i'm getting no response. >> then rick heard about the murder in karen's office.
10:41 pm
after a tense hour, connie called back. she was okay. rick's next call was to phoenix police. >> i explained to them who i thought was responsible, what his vehicle description was, where he was at, and how the three crime scenes were linked. it was just the tip the cops needed. now they had the find dwight jones before he struck again. coming up -- this was a homicide investigation in overdrive, wasn't it? >> it was. >> closing in on a killer, but not before police find more victims. >> my guts just absolutely dropped. >> when "unravelled" continues. and comfortable, long-lasting protection. because your strength is supported by ours. depend. the only thing stronger than us, is you. ♪♪ your skin isn't just skin, it's a beautiful reflection of every single thing you've been through in life.
10:42 pm
♪♪ which is why dove body wash renews your skin's ceramides and strengthens it against dryness. ♪♪ for instantly softer smoother skin you can lovingly embrace. renew the love for your skin with dove body wash. want to brain better? unlike ordinary memory renew th supplements—ur skin neuriva has clinically proven ingredients that fuel 5 indicators of brain performance. memory, focus, accuracy, learning, and concentration. try our new gummies for 30 days and see the difference.
10:43 pm
at jackson hewitt, we offer safe and easy ways to file with a skilled tax pro. securely drop off your documents, have them picked up, or upload them, and work with a tax pro online from home. safe and easy ways to file that work around you. joint pain, swelling, tenderness. and work with a tax pro online from home. my psoriasis. cosentyx works on all of this. cosentyx can help you look and feel better by treating the multiple symptoms of psoriatic arthritis.
10:44 pm
don't use if you're allergic to cosentyx. before starting, get checked for tuberculosis. an increased risk of infections and lowered ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor about an infection or symptoms, if your inflammatory bowel disease symptoms develop or worsen, or if you've had a vaccine, or plan to. serious allergic reactions may occur. watch me! get real relief with cosentyx. if you need the key to fresh laundry try gain flings. they have more freshness ingredients compared to bargain liquid detergent. they have 3 super powered ingredients that fight stink oxi boost febreze odor remover and concentrated detergent. try gain flings and smell the difference. four murders in three days. law enforcement agencies in and around phoenix were racing to
10:45 pm
move in on a fast moving killer. now thanks to a tip they were getting closer. >> i'm convinced we're dealing with dwight jones at this point. rick recognized all the crime scenes were related back to connie's divorce and custody battles to nearly a decade earlier. plus, forensic analysis told police all four victims had probably been killed with the same weapon. plus, there was a critical piece of evidence that might link that to dwight, a dna recovered on a shell casing from steve pitt's murder. dna tests can take we will be right backs of months. that was time police didn't have. >> we had some family members of mr. jones that were in northern arizona. with the help of the phoenix police we flew up there. >> at the same time other investigatorsen were on the hunt for dwight. >> he had a description of the
10:46 pm
vehicle of mr. jones. cops started pulling security video from the multiple crime scenes, looking for that gold mercedes. >> the surveillance video, leaving the scene of doctor pitt's office picked up that video acting strangely around the time of the shooting. >> and pictures from the following day show what looked like the same car near the law firm just minutes before the two paralegals were murdered. it had been 14 hours since rick tipped off investigators to dwight. as the investigation continued, police found evidence dwight and his gold mer said were in a suburb called fountain hills just 30 minutes outside scotsdale. a few hours later, they found dwight and assigned teams to watch every move. >> while they were surveilling dwight jones they watched him dispose of something in a trash can. officers went back to the trash can and what they found was the
10:47 pm
gun in the. >> however, that was a .22 caliber, not a .40. that was not a match for any of the sites. >> it was not. >> meaning he still has the gun to him. >> and they don't have enough yet to link jones to the four murders. >> but there was till the dna. a detective who flew late sunday night the get dna samples from dwight's family rushed the swabs back to the lab, and -- >> within about four hours we had a positive hit on mr. jones. >> we at "dateline" cover a lot of murders. some of which take years to solve. this case was not one of those. >> this was a homicide investigation kind of in overdrive, wasn't it? >> it was. >> less than 84 hours after this homicidal rampage began, investigators were confident they had i.d.'d their killer. >> we knew he was our suspect and murder. >> at the same time the dna was being analyzed defense were
10:48 pm
retracing dwight's steps via cell phone data. sometime before he had been placed under surveillance dwight contacted the residence of this home in fountain hills. maricopa county sheriff's deputy went to check on them. >> got a ladder. immediately recognize there was a gentleman inside that appeared to have been shot. they forced entry and upon doing so, found another victim, a woman, who had also been shot, and both were deceased. >> my guts just absolutely dropped when i heard this news. >> scott quiteman was the ennis coach of one of the victims, mary simins. >> she competed like nobody else. everybody wanted to may with mary. >> and one of her occasional playing partners was dwight jones. police believe that for reasons yet unknown, dwight murdered mary and her boyfriend bry-on thomas in their home. remember that .22 police
10:49 pm
observed dwight tossing? police learned it belongs to the couple. marry are i and bry-on had been killed with their own weapon. there were now six dead and dwight jones was not in custody, but investigators had a good idea where to find him. coming up -- finally, a killer surrounded. >> they carefully and quietly started to evacuate the hotel. >> he began firing at them. somewhere between seven and eight rounds for fired. shingles doesn't care. i logged 10,000 steps today. shingles doesn't care. i get as much fresh air as possible. good for you, but shingles doesn't care. because 1 in 3 people will get shingles, you need protection. but no matter how healthy you feel your immune system declines as you age, increasing your risk for getting shingles. so what can protect you? shingrix protects. for the first time ever, you can protect yourself from shingles
10:50 pm
with a vaccine proven to be over 90% effective. shingrix is a vaccine used to prevent shingles in adults 50 years and older. shingrix does not protect everyone and is not for those with severe allergic reactions to its ingredients or to a previous dose. the most common side effects are pain, redness, and swelling at the injection site, muscle pain, tiredness, headache, shivering, fever, and upset stomach. talk to your pharmacist or doctor about protecting yourself with shingrix. shingles doesn't care. but you should. stay restless with the icon that does the same. the rx crafted by lexus. lease the 2021 rx 350 for $429 a month for thirty six months. experience amazing at your lexus dealer. for thirty six months. welcome to the next, next level. this phone paired with 5g ultra wideband, wow! the new samsung galaxy s21 is here and it's on verizon 5g ultra wideband, the fastest 5g in the world. available in parts of many cities. it's not just a great network. it's ridiculously fast.
10:51 pm
stream your favorite shows in ultra hd. i'm so excited about this, streaming is crystal-clear. select unlimited plans get the disney bundle and 5g included at no extra cost. yes! buy samsung galaxy s21+ 5g, get one on us. only on verizon. at jackson hewitt, we offer safe and easy ways to file with a skilled tax pro. securely drop off your documents, have them picked up, or upload them, and work with a tax pro online from home. safe and easy ways to file that work around you.
10:52 pm
10:53 pm
started to evacuate the surrounding rooms and hotel. >> police describe what happened next. >> he began firing at them, somewhere between seven and eight rounds for fired. officers were safe andokay, and in this action they found mr. jones had killed hymn, self-inflicted gunshot wound. >> your ex-husband is dead now. >> yes. >> do you feel safe finally? >> with a tremendous amount of courage and rick's help. connie jones and her son lived to see her personal terrorist's last day on this earth. >> but other people were killed, innocent people, good people, productive people, that is a hard thing to come to grips with. >> six people gone. three of whom apparently had nothing do at all with dwight jones, just in the wrong place at the wrong time, like the
10:54 pm
paralegals, laura anderson and veleria sharp, both in their late 40s, both wives and mothers. neither had worked on the jones case. >> i heard people say did, they mean well -- that god needed another angel. that's a bunch of malarky. he could get one. he didn't need to get veleria and take a mother and wife to get one. >> and the therapist marshall levine. >> if you had been in your office and not marshall levine you wouldn't be talking to me today. >> that's probably true. i don't know how to think about that to be honest. i've heard from friends and family and people saying, i'm so glad you weren't at the office, and i can't -- that feels kind of obscene to me in a way to even think that thought because i wasn't there, but marshall
10:55 pm
was. >> why weren't you there? >> because i was hungry and i went to lunch. that's it. that's the only reason i wasn't there. >> the grief is still raw for natalie collins. >> are you going change the way you live? >> i hope not. steve wouldn't want that. he was not about hiding in the shadows. >> i'm not going let him have died for nothing, and i will find a way to make him proud. >> no one can say for sure exactly what set off dwight jones. after the bloodshed was over, some video surfaced that jones posted before the murders. >> hello, youtube, and welcome to my channel. >> in them, dwight raged against his wife and the professionals that worked on the case. the videos understood scored some troubling questions. dwight jones was obviously disturbed. so why wasn't he stopped? did the legal system fail everyone? could six murders have been prevented?
10:56 pm
>> i do feel very strongly that the court system did not protect me. >> connie jones says her ex-husband was violent for years with you the court system in order one red flag after another. >> my life wasn't valued, my son's life wasn't valued enough to stop him, which inadvertently harmed other people. >> if she had to live all these years terrorized we failed her as a society. and i think as a physician with the resources she had, i wonder how many other women and families that were failing as a society. >> most people can't take the steps to cover their tracks the way connie jones did. most women aren't going to have that luxury. >> i would agree. >> does the court system, both criminal and family court, do those systems understand domestic violence? do they react to it in the right way? >> no, not necessarily.
10:57 pm
>> this is the former ceo of the arizona coalition to end sexual and domestic violence. >> they have had no problem taking a position, a strong position around duis or driving under the influence, but for some reason we have had a hard time over the years making the same argument with regards to domestic violence. >> has been ittual drunk drivers are separated from their car keys but dwight jones a documented domestic abuser did not lose his right to own a gun. after holding his son captive in that standoff with police in 2009 he was allowed to plead guilty to disorderly conduct, which did not legally prevent him from buying the gun he used to kill. and there was the mental health -- mental health treatment ordered by the court. dwight did not go. >> the court did not follow up for that. there was no consequence for that. >> just before he is death, steve pitt was proposing a story to "dateline" about educating
10:58 pm
people to see the warning signs of oncoming violence. >> there are always red flags and warning signs. it's not about blame. it's about prevention. if we don't teach people what those signs are and modify or system so people know how to reach out to, then we are failing. >> my message to any domestic violence victim out there is you are responsible for your own safety. >> if you count on the system to protect you you are making a mistake. >> you are making a mistake. i went in very naive. >> the same truth is that some stories don't have happy endings. sometimes, particularly in real life, the bad guys win. maybe connie and rick are the best living proof that some beauty can blossom from even the darkest of situations. >> a friend of mine told me that he really likes you. and i said, is no, he doesn't. he's my friend. >> and he's taking care of you. he's watching out for me. >> right. but he grows on you.
10:59 pm
>> he supports you, he listens to you, he worries about you, he looks after you. >> there you go. exactly. >> when did you realize your friend was right? >> when i started paying attention to it. >> what did you like about her? >> turned out at my anyone what was important to me is not only is she beautiful, but she's intelligent, and i love to have a conversation with her and hear what her answer and response is. i didn't experience that in previous relationships. >> somehow, out of fear, danger, and the need for protection, and love, rick and connie marry in the 2013. >> you did your job. she's still here. >> i'm happy about that. >> do you feel like you deserve a little happiness here? because i do. >> well, we are -- we have a very good family. i'm proud of it.
11:00 pm
i have been married twice. this is the only husband i've ever had. she was a person out of a '40s film noir movie. >> with a life full of mystery to match. >> she was a stunner physicallya she was able to say jump and the men would say how high. >> married to a wealthy lawyer. >> he always said she has this hold over me. >> but there was someone she seemed even closer to. >> they bought matching underwear together. >> they shared everything. >> they're eating together, sleeping in the same bed together, she's living at her house. >> did they also share a deadly secret? >> it was a love triangle and one of them had to go. >> but was it her idea? >> oh, god. it seemed like a good id a
125 Views
IN COLLECTIONS
MSNBC WestUploaded by TV Archive on
