welcome to monday. it's "meet the press daily." i'm kacie hunt in for chuck todd. the biden administration pushes ahead with efforts to fast track covid relief. a sitting member of congress has died after a battle with covid and cancer. we'll have more on that in just a moment. the briefing comes as senator negotiators are closing in on an agreement involving the details of trump's impeachment trial that starts tomorrow. president biden wants to stay focused on covid relief throughout the trial and suggested he doesn't have much of an interest in watching it either and he will continue to engage in discussions with congressional leaders about

covid. the white house wants trump trial to move quickly but the houses impeachment managers have to make an incredibly convincing and thorough case if they are serious about trying to win a conviction. senate negotiators are closing in on an agreement that would likely extend the trial through the middle of next week. possibly longer because the current outlines of the agreement do leave open the possibility of calling witnesses. we're learning is basically the crux of trump's defense. in a new legal brief trump's lawyers concludes after 70 plus pages of analysis that quote, the article of impeachment presented by the house is unconstitutional. democrats are dismissing those objections, they clearly taking them seriously. all as the clock tick ons this country's race to vaccinate and help as many people as possible

amid the spread of more dangerous covid variants. in just a minute we'll talk with top member of house leadership about the road ahead but let's begin with shannon who is standing by for us outside the white house and nbc lee ann caldwell on capitol hill. shannon, let me start with you from what we just learned over the last hoir or so and how the white house is approaching this impending trial. they want to set that largely aside and focus on their covid relief package. >> yes. despite some valiant efforts from my colleagues in the room in that white house press briefing to try to get press secretary jen psaki convey some sort of opinion or position on whether former president trump should be impeached or how this trial should proceed, the white

house is really sticking to this line that they want nothing to do with this. this is something happening in the senate up pennsylvania avenue and president biden is no longer in the senate. he has no position on this, at least publicly. even privately, white house officials don't want to take any position on impeachment. they are not signaling to members on hill what they should do. i was talking to one hill aide who is close to the white house who said they are not getting any talking points or guidance from the white house. the white house wants to put this aside and everything in the white house is focusing around trying to get this covid relief package passed. we have president biden be who will do virtual campaign.

he said we'll have time to watch this, most likely. >> what difference from the previous president who seems to watch every single minute of his own impeachment trial back in 2020 when we did this the first time. the reality is if joe biden -- if president biden sent the signal to the hill he didn't want this trial to go forward, i've had people say he probably could have stopped it if he wanted to. it seems like the reality is he didn't want to get involved. what are you hearing on the hillside in terms of how much senator schumer, the democratic majority leader is talking to white house as they hash out what to do about how the hold this trial. >> reporter: the official line is that democrats are constantly in communication with the white house. as far as this outline of the trial is concerned, i'm told by sources this was a good

negotiation between senator schumer, senator mcconnell and the trump dfw team. -- defense team. it will look a lot different than in the last trial. it passed in partisan way. this time there's broad agreement on how it's going to operate. what's notable is the first day they will focus on this constitutionality issue which, as you said, is a central component of the president's defense. after the senators vote, then they will move to the meat of the trial. the trump defense team is about process. about constitutionality, about impeaching a former official.

about lack of due process. it will be interesting to see how they play it after this component is kind of decided very early on. >> what's your take of the political ramifications of giving one day may affect how many republicans who are willing to vote to convict in the end. how do you think it affects things if they are able to vote up front on the constitutionality and make a larger decision later on? >> reporter: i think it will be a good indicator on how the final vote is going to come out on conviction or acquittal. the question i'm going be looking at does that vote tally change on constitutionality tomorrow as compared to what it was a couple of weeks ago when senator rand paul pushed that vote on the senate, among the

senate, 45 senate republicans voted to say it was unconstitutional. does that change after they hear from two hours arguments from the president's impeachment team and two hours from impeachment managers that it's a constitutional process. it's a political process and the senators, especially republicans are looking at a lot more than the facts before them. they are looking at their polls back home. they are look at the popularity of the president and also looking at the fact if they're going to face a primary challenge based on what they do here. >> it's pretty stunning that the

fundamental reality of life in washington as a republican has not even fundamentally changed even in the wake of a literal assault on the united states capitol where all of these republicans go to work every day. shannon, let's talk about the detils of this covid relief package. we know the white house with not wanting to answer questions today ant the minimum wage changes. whether they could get that in to the bill considering a process that it seems like they will use in congress. they will do this likely without republican support or they're not going to spend a lot of time trying to get that support. where are they willing to compromise and what is are the lines in the sand for them? >> what i heard when i was talking to sources late last week is the $15 minimum wage and the thresholds for the direct checks are the things most like tloi be on the table.

if they can say i don't think the rules will allow it. on these direct stimulus checks they are not flexible on the amount. they want to hold to that $1400. they say that's what americans were promised. the big negotiation is who gets those. is it someone making 60,000. what's the thresholds and the back and forth will have a lot to do with can they get all the democrats on board together. why they would like a couple of republicans, they can get this through in they can get the democrats in lock step. joe manchin. what's the threshold to keep him on board. those are the two things we're

hearing about. i haven't heard much late yet but we're still going. >> all right. shannon, forgive me. i think i have a tech problem. i cannot hear you. shannon, thank you very much for your reporting here. for more on impeachment and other matters before congress, joining me now is massachusetts democratic congresswoman kathryn clark. she's the number four democrat in the house of representatives. thank you so much for being here with us today. i just want to start with the trial itself. we are learning more about what it's going to look like. how it will play out and we know that right out of the gate they will hold this vote now. is itd going to give away the whole game because it will show republicans are probably not willing to convict right up front?

>> we're at this point where we have to look at whose side will you be on. are you going to be on the side of the constitution? are you going to defend the democracy? are you going to remember the events of four short weeks ago where a seditious mob, rioters, attacked our capitol. five people lost their lives. 140 law enforcement officers were injured. some of them very, very seriously. all of it fastered by a big lie from president donald trump about the election being stolen from him. we are at this place with impeachment which is our constitutional tool to protect our democracy and my question for the senate is are you going to look at the facts? are you going to remember what you witnessed and stand up for

our country at this time or are you going to give in to your own political pressures and choose cowardice? >> do you think that the house needs to call witnesses in order to make the points that you just made there in order to get that argument across? >> i think that the managers are going to put together a c compelling case. it could include witnesses but we're in a very unusual situation where the hundred senators were witnesses to this attack. they saw the rioters. they heard them. they have seen the tapes themselves. what is important is not only they uphold their oath of office but uphold their oath to be impartial jurors and review the information that we have that i know our team of impeachment managers is going to present in

a compelling way. president trump has committed a terrible seditious act against this country. we have to put politics aside and stand up to protect our democracy and send a message to future presidents that we will never tolerate this kind of attack on our own government by the president of the united states. >> he's largely dodged questions about the trial. >> i think that president biden's focus is exactly where it needs to be. on this pandemic and making sure that we end the suffering for

the american people. his package we are taking up in committee this week is the answer to that. we are looking at issues around health care access to make sure that our communities of color can equally access them. we are giving stats and local governments the funding they need to keep our public health officials hired and working towards relief for the american people. all of these factors come together. it has to be the focus of our work.

>> what does that look like? you had congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez saying if you lower the threshold to $50,000 per person, 100,000 per family, that really doesn't do any good to family in queens where the cost of living is extraordinarily high and you should keep the thresholds higher. do you think you can get all democrats, not just in the house but in the senate with you literally need every single one of them to agree on where these thresholds should be. >> doi. i think it's so critical that we get aid to people. we all agree we need another round of stimulus checks to do just that. to help families put food on the table, pay those bills that are hanging over their heads. be able to care for their loved ones. i, too, have a district that has a very high cost of living. i want us to err on being over inclusive.

we have to remember that sochl this data will be based on income from 2019. let's make sure that we're not leaving families behind. what gives me hope and optimism for this package and moving forward with an american people focused agenda is that democrats understand this. we understand what has been lacking since the beginning of this pandemic is seeing the american people relying on science and truth to crush this pandemic and rebuild an economy that is not just status quo but even more inclusive. >> all right. thank you so much for your time. we really appreciate you being here and we'll be seeing you for a very long week on capitol hill, coming up. before we go to break here, we have a little bit more sad news from the capitol. we mentioned this at the top of the show. texas republican congressman

wright who had been battling lung cancer died last night from health complications after being diagnosed with coronavirus. wright announced hi contracted the virus on january 22nd and had been hospitalized for the past two weeks. he was first elected in the dallas area in 2018. before that he served on the arlington city council and as tarrant county tax assessor collector. he was 67 years old. he's survived by his wife, three children and nine grand children. wright is the second elected member of congress to die after contracting covid-19 which has claimed the lives of more than 460,000 americans. louisiana republican congress elect died late last year just days before he was supposed to be sworn in. our thoughts are with congressman wright's family and all of the other americans who have lost loved ones over the course of the last days and weeks to this terrible virus. still ahead this hour,

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welcome back. donald trump's defense team just submitted a memo calling the upcoming impeachment trial political theater and outlining their plans to argue the trial is unconstitutional. in the said memo, the former president's lawyers suggest they will use democrats own comments and actions against them. they are writing accountability does matter unless you're a democrat. while fixated on words and sentences taken out of context, they ignore the many reckless

statements made by their democrat colleagues in the house and senate. okay. just to be clear. we have actual violence on january 6th. i'm joined by monica alba in west palm beach, florida where trump continues to reside at mar-a-lago. let me start with you to walk through what we're going to expect to hear from the trump defense team. they spent a lot of time in this brief on the constitutionality question and it seems like we're learning the way they will set up this trial is going to potentially dispense with that argument right up front in one day. what else do they have in their arsenal to try and talk about for the additional 16 hours they'll have to make other arguments? >> reporter: that's right. we're learning more about that strategy through the 78-page trial memo we just got earlier today where they do make the case that aside from their major

crux of their argument, which is this question of constitutionality and whether you can vote on convicting a former president, somebody who is now a private citizen who no longer holds office, they will focus a lot on what donald trump, when he was the commander in chief said at the rally when he did encourage his supporters to quote, fight like hell for this country and he urged them to walk to the capitol. they will say within that remark, when you saw he made about a speech 1:15, 10,000 words in total, they will make the case he only urged them to fight a landful of times and he spent the majority of the speech telling people to go do the capitol peacefully and protest that way. they will make the argument that all of that should be protected under first amendment rights and free speech. that's a big part of this trial memo that we saw today. so important to point out the

context as you know so well. the former president was the president when he made these comments. they even say in their trial brief words matter. that's a really important point. something else they will make a case out of is the fact you had the house impeachment manager drafting that first article of impeachment just within hours of the riot on the hill. they will say how can you draft this article of impeachment before a full investigation has happened. they are announcing they will be using some video. that's in response to democrats saying that video will be central to their case as well in terms of realtime imagery, photos, videos from january 6th and the deadly mob and insurrection. now we know that bruce caster and david are saying they will use democrats own words, they are arguing, from last summer and social unrest and what they

call inflammatory rhetoric against them. all of this as we don't know how much time will be allotted to each issue. we're fwhot sure how the rest of the day will unfold. this trial is expected to go about a week in length. friday at sun down it will likely pause to respect the jewish sabbath. it's likely to pick back up again on sunday. we don't know how much into next week it will stretch on beyond that. >> how successful should this argument be trying to use democrat's words against them. we all saw what happened on january 6th. what is your legal perspective

on this? >> i think it will just be the side show component to the defense. i think it's legally irrelevant to the article of impeachment that's been lodged against former president trump which is whether he incited the insurrection. there's no charge against anybody else in congress. this is distraction. it does highlight something that the defense will want focus on and that is that a president does enjoy freedom of expression including the ability to express a political sentiment in a controversial fashion. kind of revved up the mob and pointed the crowd up the hill with a corrupt purpose in mind namely to obstruct the lawful counting of the votes.

>> what is your sense on the constitutionality question? we'll address that up front before we get through what we were talking to. it seems like it will be a vote on whether this is constitutional or not. that seemed like something republicans wanted to have a chance to get on the record about. the historical record is a little bit mixed but not really when you talk to rp williams who is clear there's precedent for convicting a former official who has been impeached while he was in office. >> there's ambiguity in the language. as you just pointed out, we have had instances of people who have left office who were nevertheless impeached.

president trump's defense turn to say something interesting about that episode which is al hoe the house in its exclusive authority to decide what is impeachable, impeached him. the senate declined to convict him. there was some senators at that time who still felt, even after hearing the evidence and the arguments that it was a serious matter to go after someone who was no longer in office. yorng the historical arguments, i understand the consensus favors doing what is happening now in a really good pro-democracy reasons to do what is going on now. it remains not absolutely certain on this point.

>> all right. thanks to both of you for joining us today. we have more news today from capitol hill. alabama republican richard shelby says he's stepping down at tend of his term. he will not run for his 7th term next year saying for everything there is a season. shelby says he plans to serve out the remainder of his term with energy and vision. the 86-year-old was first elected as a democrat in 1978. then to the senate in 1986 before switching parties eight years later. republicans will be defending 20 senate seats in 2022. this one likely to stay in republican hands but quite a lot of clout going out the door. don't go anywhere. we'll be right back. plap

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it's got a lot of people concerned. the company says it does prevent severe illness. do you think it's the right decision for them considering it still does seem to be some benefit. what is your risk analysis in terms of what this means? >> good afternoon. they're stuck in a hard place. what it showed is generally, there was basically no difference in decreasing mild and moderate disease. about 10% difference.

this trial is not, at least in this trial, they are not able to definitively say whether or not severe disease could be avoided. look at it from south africa's perspective. they got a million doses of the astrazeneca vaccine and there's marginal cost to setting up the vaccine and getting them out. i think what they are trying to figure out is how much more data they need to have to ensure there's some efficacy and more definitive evidence because they roll out the million doses. they have to start looking to see if they should get other candidates to potentially supplement the supplies they have. it's a tough decision. i think it's an area we need a bit more data about but it's a decision that i think they had to made given their resources. >> that does make sense. here at home, we have got the

johnson and johnson vaccine. how concerned should people either the south african variant will become so impressive lant that the vaccines may not work. what do we know, if anything shs about the johnson and johnson one that's coming? >> johnson and johnson was, i'll start with that one. there was clinical data. they had a portion of their study done in south africa and where this strain is most prevalent. there's a drop in overall efficacy of mild or moderate disease but it protect, still protects 100% against hospitalizations. about 85% against severe disease. even against the strain we're

protected. right now the south african strain is not the predominant one in the u.s. the laboratory data shows there's a drop in the amount of new response the vaccine can mount against or the variants can get over the new response. they think even with that drop, the vaccine should be able to maintain the level of response that protects against severe disease, at least provide mild to moderate disease as well. that's suppose to be the most distributed around the world given the cost, given it's being produced in many countries. fingers crossed waiting for more data on that. >> it's a very important point

because it doesn't require the refrigeration temperatures that some of the other vaccines require. dr., one more question on the johnson and johnson vaccine. we threw these numbers out. 100% effective against this. there's an 80 number in there too. i think that's all very confusing especially when you put it up next to the moderna and the pfizer numbers which tend to be higher. what would you say to americans who are waiting to get a vaccine. perhaps they end up if this is approved getting an appointment for the johnson and johnson vaccine. should they feel as though they al need another shot. should they be never they are not getting the pfizer or moderna. what do you say to people with those concerns? >> across the board, i think we want to reduce severe illness and death. we're at a precipice this might become the predominant strain.

the timing is important. bothspective and the johnson and johnson with the one doze, moderna, pfizer all protect against severe disease, that's really the biggest concern. this is not a once, given the evolution of this virus, we'll all have to get a booster or another version of this vaccine maybe in the next six, eight, nine months. whatever vaccine you can get your hands on when it's your turn, you should get it. that's what helps us not overwhelm the health care system. >> thank you so much for being here with us today. we really appreciate your expertise as always. up next, we're heading to one of places where the racial disparity in vaccine distribution is most apparent,

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welcome back. during this morning's covid briefing response, team senior adviser said the u.s. needs to step up vaccinations of racial and ethnic communities that have been hit disproportionately by the virus. wide vaccination gaps have emerged between white communities and communities of color as states struggle to distribute vaccinations swiftly and equitiablely. one of the worst disparities, mississippi. as of friday mississippi administered more than 327,000 doses of the vaccine. only 19% of those shots went into the arms of the state's black residents who make up nearly 40% of the population. for more on what's driving this gap, let's go to nbc priscilla thomp thompson. thank you for being with us.

how is the state explaining the disparity in who is receiving the vaccines? >> reporter: i want to pick up on that stat you mentioned pm black residents, 38% of the population here but only accounting for 19% of the vaccinations so under represented. compare that to white residents who make up 58% of the population but have received 70% of the vaccine allotment. they are being overrepresented in the data. the state is saying we know this is an issue and we're working, quote, aggressively to sure up those issues and those disparities. my colleague lives here and reported on this and what we're hearing from community leaders and doctors is not the hesitancy and distrust is the issue but the issue here really is lack of access to the vaccine and i had an opportunity to speak with the ceo here at delta health who operates clinics in this region

and he tells me that 85% of the patients they vaccinated so far at this site have been black. he has thousands of people on wait list who are eager to get the vaccine but one of the issues is barriers to access. take a listen to what he said. >> the biggest thing is trying to get online to register for the various sites that are offered by the state department of health. the second thing is transportation to those places. it's only nine miles from this location south of here and many times patients are charged $25 for a one way trip. there's not a single traffic light between there and here. that's a big impediment. >> reporter: those issues are being compounded by the distribution. the bumpy roll out we have seen across the country. to give you an example, when

deers opened here at delta health, they did not know how many vaccines they were going to have for the week or whether they would get them at all. they learned in the past couple of hours they should expect around 300 vials of the vaccine to be coming in hopefully by tomorrow. you can imagine how that makes it difficult for them to plan, for patients to plan. once the vaccines get here, they will call the patients on the waitlist but those folks will have to figure out how to get a ride to get here and get that vaccine and this community site tells me they are ready and able to set up mobile sites to go out into the communities and do the vaccinations but they cannot do that when they can't plan for how much vaccine they will have and distribute. a pretty big concern here. >> incredibly difficult and so important because some of these communities have just been so hard hit by covid-19.

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. they vote to convict the house members for the impeachment trial, they're not getting their votes, kaci. >> so you said the g.o.p. chair that you were talking to there, did he say why it is he think there's is so many people. what they would be ignoring if they didn't pay attention to that? >> yeah, i mean trump galvanized people here in a very real way. this used to be a democratic stronghold. and then the steel mills left

this area. a lot of challenges, a lot of economics struggle. and when trump came in he lit a fire that they had not felt in a very, very long time. several people decades ago were democrats that grew up in this county that say that this is the first time they felt a candidate really appeal to them and i think that that is honestly what some republicans are still trying to figure out. some establishment republicans trying to figure out what it is that trump captured. but places like this, you look at where he did well, places that have demographics similar to beaver county. so they will have to really wrestle with the direction they're going now. >> thank you very much for wrapping us up today. we appreciate it and thank you to all of you for being with us this hour. chuck will be back tomorrow as part of our special coverage of president donald trump's second impeachment trial. special coverage starting here at 9:00 a.m.

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