tv The Rachel Maddow Show MSNBC February 26, 2021 6:00pm-7:00pm PST
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that was the rhetoric from the white house, that zero sum, and you see what it has cost this country. i truly believe that this whole right wing play book is the rigged rules of our government. we could have a the filibuster, right? >> restore majority rule. heather's book "the sum of us." the rachael maddow show starts right now with ali velshi. >> a great conversation, chris, thank you. have an excellent weekend. rachael has the night off. we're at this hour waiting for the united states house of representatives to vote on president biden's $1.9 trillion covid relief bill. we don't know when it will
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happen, but when it finally gets a vote we know two things. someone it will pass with overwhelming support from democrats and possibly no support from republicans despite it being incredibly popular with american voters of both parties. number two, it will include a increase in the minimum wage to $15 an hour even though we know a covid relief bill with the $15 minimum wage cannot pass the senate. so how will it all work? we'll ask the chair of the congressional caucus coming up. also, a panel this evening recommended that the johnson and johnson one shot covid vaccine be approved by the fda means the new vaccine could be approved for use in the united states as soon as tomorrow. we'll have more on that in a few minutes. the news broke this evening in
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the new york times that the fbi has singled out a potential suspect in the death of the capitol police officer linked to the january 6th attack on the capitol. officer brian siknik collapsed shortly after interacting with protestors. they think it may have been because of an irritant like mais or bear spray used in the attack. investigators have now pinpointed a person seen on video of the riot who attacked several officers with bear spray including officer sicknick. they have not identified this attacker by name to us, but this appears to be the first major breakthrough in this part of the case. more than 300 people have been charged in connection with the capitol riot, but no one has yet
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been charged in officer sicknick's death. first, do you remember the orb? it was an iconic moment early in the trump presidency that like so many things in the trump patrick swayze si appeared funny, creepy, possibly sinister, and totally inexplicable. i can tell you that president trump was in saudi arabia in that photo. he was attending the opening of some kind of center for combatting extremism. he there was with the president of egypt on the left and the king of saudi arabia in the middle and the orb is a globe, but none of that really explains why there was a glowing globe in the middle of the room or why the three world leaders were required to place their hands on it, nor why they then stood there with their hands on it for two whole minutes while soaring
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music played. the other thing that made it so weird is it was donald trump's first foreign trip as president. he went to saudi arabia. his first trip. no other u.s. president has ever made saudi arabia the first foreign trip. his son-in-law and senior advisor, jared kushner, made three trips to saudi arabia. kushner and the u crown prince of saudi arabia staid up until 4:00 a.m. swoping st swapping s planning. there was a blazeen brutal power
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play where he rounded up members of the royal family and jailed them. tortured some of them until lots of them were forced to give up billions of dollars and any claims to power they may have. in doing this, he didn't just have support from the trump white house, president trump actually tweeted approval of it. but for all of that fawning and enabling behavior from trump nothing could compare to the embarrassing and horrifying way that trump bent over backward to protect the crown prince after the murder of jammal khashoggi. he was a legal u.s. permanent resident. a frequent critic of the saidy regime. he disappeared inside of a saudi consulate in turkey.
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first they said nothing happened to him. then they said it was an interrogation gone wrong. but it was clear that the suspects in the killing were directly tied to crown prince mbs and given how completely mbs has taken control of the levers of power in saudi arabia there was no way such an operation could have been carried out without his say so. but that the saidies had done such a bad job of it. >> they had a very bad original concept. it was carried out poorly and the cover up was one of the worst in the history of cover ups. very simple. a bad deal, never should have
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been thought of. and they had the worst cover up ever. >> why did they cover it up so poorly. now i have to deal with it. after it was reported that the cia concluded that he had ordered khashoggi's killing trump put out a statement saying maybe he did and maybe he didn't. he added the world is a very dangerous place. trump later told bob woodward about him saying i saved his ass. one of the ways he got him to be left alone was by requiring a law. they sent congress an unclassified report identifying those responsible for khashoggi's death. trump ig fored the deadline.
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the united states just never publicly acknowledged the crown prince's responsibilities. the director of national intelligence released the assessment of the government role in the killing of khashoggi and it is unambiguous. we assess that the crown prince approved an operation in istanbul, turkey to capture or kill journalist jamal khashoggi. seven members of the team responsible for the murder were members of the personal protective detail that answer only to him and also that "the crown prince had control of the kingdom's security and intelligence organizations making it highly unlikely that saidy officials would have carried out an operation of this nature without the grown
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prince's authorization." for the record the saudi government says it is ridiculous. there is visa bans on 76 saudis including a former chief as well as on mbs's personal protective detail whose members were involved in khashoggi's murder. but the person missing from any of these punitive measures is the guy that ordered the killing the crown prince himself. senior administration officials telling the "new york times" tonight that biden decided the diplomatic cost of penalizing the crown prince is just too high. mr. biden's decision came after
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weeks of debate when his newly formed national security team says you could not bar him from entering the united states or to weigh criminal charges against him without breaching the relationship with one of america's key arab allies. a consensus developed in the white house that the cost of that breach in saudi cooperation was simply too high. i would like to show you new tape we just got in of president biden talking about this. he is speaking with our colleague at univision tonight. >> how far are you willing to go to press to comply with human rights? >> i spoke yesterday with the king, not the prince. made it clear to him that the rules are changing and we're going to be announcing significant changes today and on monday. we're going to hold them
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accountable for human rights abuses and we're going to make sure they, in fact, if they want to deal with us they have to deal with us in a way it is don't across the room. president biden stressed that he spoke with the king, not the prince. saudi arabia's king is technically in charge. king solman is 85 and he has been ill for some time. it was unclear how much he absorbed of the conversation that president biden had with him yesterday. mbs is running saudi arabia and he will be for possibly a long time. joining us now, congressman adam
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schiff, good to see you again. thank you for being with us tonight. how do you evaluate this? there seems to be evidence all over the place about the involvement in this thing. it's what the intelligence committee included. how do we get around this. lots of people put on lists and sanctions but not muhammad. >> i don't think we can get around it and this is a power statement by the intelligence community. they said the crown prince has blood on his hands for ordering this operation and it's very hard to old accountable the people that did the deed and let the people who ordered the deed be done off of the hook. so i have been urging the administration to go further to make sure there are repercussions that are personal to the crown prince. i think he should be shunned.
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i don't think the president should talk to him or see him. i think they should go after investments of him. and look, the saudis have every interest in pushing back against iran. so i think we could do more without having to complete rupture relations. >> i think you bring up an interesting point if we had this conversation 15 years ago about american relations in saudi arabia the number one concern would have been energy supply. but they do work with america and other countries on counter terrorism. they seed to be trying to reset that able, too. they want them to know that things will look a little
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different going forward. >> yes, it will be a very different relationship. donald trump gave the crown prince carte blanche. khashoggi was an american resident and journalist. the relationship needs to be different even from the administrations that proceeded the last one. all of the interactions in the last decade have been tense. if you look at the counter in iron, they have not strengthenned irons hand. if you look at the counter terrorism fight, the degree they have supported the form, this radicalized form, has created the climate for the proliferation of terrorism if is
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a very mixed relationship. i don't think it ought to cause us to, in any way, kater to the crown prince. particularly in light of the murder and dismemberment of jamal khashoggi. >> for those that accuse the administration of being soft on iron, that the air strike was aimed at iranian militants. you say the air strike, the warnings, the consultation was inadequate and you're looking into further legal justification on the military action. where do you stand on that tonight? >> from what i have seen so far, and it is preliminary, the strike was justified and proportionate. but i do think that the
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consultation was an accurate notification in form only, so we are raising these issues with the administration. that was syria, and with all of that being said, this was a proportionate response and i think it was very important for the widen administration to signal to iron that it will not tolerate attacks from u.s. forces and i think that message has been delivered. >> good to see you, thank you for joining us this morning. adam schiff, the chairman of the house intelligence committee. we appreciate your time tonight. well, seven years ago on the dot 150,000 little green men much marched across the russian border. they were not wearing russian insignia. their uniforms unmarked, their weapons russian made.
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vladimir putin sent thousands of armed trueing into ukraine, into crimea, taking over the airport, the parliament building, by march they took everything. vladimir putin illegally an nexted crimea. seven years later, russia is still in ukraine. they have not given crimea back. president biden issued this statement today. the united states does not and will never recognize russia's purported annexation of the peninsula and we will stand with ukraine against russia's aggressive acts. the united states continues to stand with ukraine and it's allies and partners today as it has from the beginning of this conflict. we reaffirm a simple truth, crimea is ukraine.
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president biden ran on the promise of realigned america's moral compass on the international stage. and hold that up to the president's decision not to retaliate against the crown prince for the murder of jamal khashoggi. joining me now is the director of global engagement. he is the kind of big brain that i need to talk to on nights like this. thank you for being here. what happen do you make -- you heard my conversation with chairman schiff, what do you make of this? on one hand we got the evidence that most of us knew about anyway. but we understand the acknowledgment that he was responsible for the beth of khashoggi and tonight he faces nothing as a result.
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>> he used stroj words, and in syria. and we saw their backs against various projects and pro iranian forces. but the trouble with these policies is they reflect three decades of american policy in the middle east. and the policy is then based mostly on military strikes, sanctions, and tough words. and if you look at the last two decades, the terrorist forces, they are continuing to expand around the world and the people sanctioned, they don't give a hoot and they have not changed any policies really. people that have been attacked like other groups they continue
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to operate. so there is something wrong with the basic methodology. they gave advice to these problems and that is with the exception of the nuclear agreement. >> right. the iranian nuclear deal took ten years of effort, negotiation, and two very solid years of american direct involvement in the whole thing, but that is the point really, right? if you're looking at said -- saudi arabia's activities. everyone needs to pull back and be more cooperative. >> we don't know what it really is yet. you will have to give it some
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times. there is some informations in terms of the u.s. sending signals. the prop in the middle east now su it is not the middle east of 10 or 20 years ago. the russians are a major mayer. the irons are more widely disbursed. it is very different and critical of the united states. and people are marginalized and power less. so you need a more sophisticated and pragmatic american policy that has to start with the idea that the well-being of ordinary arab people, and the well-being of israelis, turks, iranians, and americans must be the bottom
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common denominator that we all work for. that has never been made. to address the equal needs of all of these people. so there has to be more consistency and more focus on the well-being and the rights of human beings as long as they are applied across the board they are treating people decently. >> good to see you as always, ronnie, the director of global engagement. always appreciate your time friend, big new developments on the availability of covid vaccines.
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early herb today president biden and first lady dr. jill biden visited a new vaccination center at nrg park in texas. the facility opened just a few days ago. the opening of that new site where biden spoke is a feat. despite the massive winter storm, the new site is up and running and capable of giving thousands of doses per day. take a look at that, it's amazing. targeted the most vulnerable communities in the area. they want to increase vaccine equity in the state. despite efforts to improve, most states have centralen short. even the limited data available has shown that white people are getting vaccinated at higher rates. and then there are stories like
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this one out of california where vaccine access for people in black communities are done by those instead. an fd apanel voted today 22-0 to approve the johnson and johnson vaccine. so today's vote cues up a vote for fda approval and the authorization could come as soon as sunday. that means they would be able to ship out nearly four million doses on monday. let me tell you about have vaccine. it officers complete protection against hospitalization in the
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united states. that is less than pfizer's 95% efficacy. but the white house is encouraging people to get the johnson and johnson shot. according to nbc the strategy is to blunt concern that the johnson and johnson vaccine is slightly less effective than vaccines produced by pfizer, biotech, and moderna. it could be used in under served communities. john and johnson almost green lit and pfizer and moderna continuing to ramp up production could keep going very quickly. that pace could mean the whole ball game. the health policy lan lists who has been covering the coronavirus crisis since day one we started speaking more than a year ago and she is still on the
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case, answer this simple question. given the difference in the efficacy, why would anyone choose to have it? >> i think there is a bunch of different issues going on here. first of all as a individual you probably don't have a choice. it would be an issue of what center you go to and what vaccine is available to the center. i didn't get to choose to have moderna, it's what was at the center when i walked in the door. i think everyone needs to keep in mind what we have been testing for in this rush is not whether or not vaccines keep you have getting infected but whether or not they keep you from getting seriously ill and dieing of the disease if you do
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get infected. we still don't know and we're waiting for more and more data to come in on the vaccines already in use is whether or not they're very good at stopping an help determineic. you may make a choice based on the data that is already out, but they may not be the data that matters on whether or not you get infected. so i think at this point it's premature to say one is better than the other. they had to get it around the country, get it to real areas. this is a much easier vaccine to ship around. less likely to go bad sitting on a shelf. >> and then there is another
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vaccine from a company called pure vac that says they're expected to be approved by june. we knew there was five to seven vaccines on the horizon. so at this point we're starting to see the fruition of those efforts. we're going to have a number of choices and options? >> yeah, the big problem now is number one issue is can they produce supplies to meet demand. they don't just have a contract to produce for america, but for the whole world, and they have obligations to the whole world and they're trying to crank out supplies as fast as they can. moderna said they thought they could get a billion doses before
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the end of 2021. you want to crank all of them out without making mistakes. what we're really coming up against now already very, very serious is supply shortages on everything socialed with vaccination. the special boxes that you put the used syringe into, the alcohol swops, all of the syringes themselves. i heard just yeah that the ceo of a mayor medical factory. it is a complete shut down of the supply chain. so that is showing you how
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houses of congress because there is a deadline to the middle of march, they're also staring down the bill. it would provide direct relief for millions of americans. it would provide long overdue relief to state and local governments that were withheld from previous relief packages from congressional republicans. it would also florida billions of more dollars for vaccine distribution. this bill is a big deal. it has not been without it's set backs. they sent a major blow to democratic relief plans when she ruled that a planned increase to the minimum wage could not be included in the legislation if it is going to be pass through the budget reconciliation
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process which means passing with a simple majority in the senate. this allowed them to get through that proposal. now there is an idea first put forward with bernie sanders and ron wyden. that would create a back door increase in the minimum wage by taking away tax breaks from big corporations. experts believe that kind of proposal would almost certain i will be allowed under the senate parliamentarians but it would depend considerably on how it was structured. it could leave workers out that would benefit from a flat increase in the minimum wage. other progressives say the parliamentarians should be fired
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or overruled. house progressive caucus leader says what should we tell them? the senate parliamentarian advised against it? two thirds of voters want this done and it is time to deliver. joining us now, the chair of the congressional caucus. let me ask you about this, you make a good point, americans want a minimum wage increase. many deserve it. if you just take the minimum wage from 40 or 50 years ago and you adjust for inflation, a lot of states are passing minimum wage increases, what are the options if they don't get into the senate bill as the parliamentarian says?
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>> i think it could be included in the bill because as you said it is not unprecedented at all for the parliamentarian's opinion. that's what it is, an opinion, an advisory opinion to be not listened to. the vice president hubert humphry said it twice. this is an urgent moment and a minimum wage increase that will left 27 million americans out of poverty. they will lift millions of people out of poverty and this is an issue that has resonated when many of the workers are on the front lines. i believe it can still be included in the bill.
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if it isn't included in the bill i think they have a cross roads in front of us. working class voters in georgia. we were going to make a significant different in lifting the floor for people across this country and we have to decide if we're going to use every tool in our tool box that is in the tool box. that is now in the relief bill or in the filibuster. republicans are intransigent when it comes to many of the policies. they do not listen to many of the people, so we can't go back as we said to voters and say sorry, the arcane senate rules told us we could not do what we promised. they gave us majorities in the house and the white house.
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>> folks earning $8 or $9 are not going to make that argument. there are not that many policies. in many states where they elected republicans across the border statewide they also enacted higher minimum wage increases so at this point it becomes impossible for some people to reconcile. the federal minimum wage is $7 an hour. >> it is $15,000 a year if you're lucky enough to even get that. i just talked to a health care worker in west virginia that is looking after people with autism. and he is earning $12,000, okay? $12,000, he can't guy a new car, he can't take care of himself, and i think this is a struggle that so many people are facing. i think a state like florida
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that went for donald trump in november massed with a super majority. this is long overdue. it has been 12 years since the federal minimum wage has been raised. it was 2014 when my city became the first mayor city in the country to pass a minimum wage. here we are ten years later talking about a fazed in method. this is urgent and we have to deliver on this promise. >> they said that seattle would be wiped off of the face of the earth with that. congresswoman, good to see you us a always, thank you. >> so the 2020 election did not go the way that republicans wanted, but instead of changing the policies they ran on, republican controlled state
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legislatures tried to change how voting works. i'll have more on that just ahead. i'll have more on that just ahead. tonight i'll be eating lobster thermidor au gratin. really? sh-yeah, and monkeys might fly out of my butt. make it two calzones! dad! no shoes in the house. our son says, sh-yeah, and monkeys might fly out of my butt. since tide antibacterial fabric spray kills 99.9% of bacteria. just to be sure. he wants us to spray everything every time we walk into the door. it's just to be sure. just to be sure! i thought you just sprayed those. ma, it's just to be sure. see, he takes after my side of the family. for every just to be sure, it's got to be tide antibacterial fabric spray.
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just a couple weeks ago the republican controls arizona state senate tried to have the arizona's biggest county arrested. republican state senators failed by just one vote to approve a measure to lock up all five maricopa county supervisors because those supervisors had the nerve to declare that joe biden won their county fair and square in the 2020 presidential election. because the board of supervisors would not hand over the county's voting machines and all of the county's ballots so that state senate republicans could personally dig in and find all the fraud that must have caused donald trump to lose in arizona. okay, so now the results are in from two new audits of the presidential vote in maricopa county. guess what, both of the
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independent outside auditors determined they were counted correctly. nothing was hacked. the election was sound. arizona republicans are not handling this well. today they got a judge to order maricopa county officials to turn over all the ballots and voting machines to the state senate so they can do their own audit. but also, get this, arizona republican lawmakers this week discussed a bill that would just let the state legislature overturn any election result it doesn't like. under this bill, the legislature could just send its own slate of presidential electors to congress regardless of which candidate won the popular vote in arizona. that bill may not survive, but arizona republicans are moving forward with a bill that would kick a whole bunch of voters off the early voting rolls and shorten the early voting period and make it a felony for any arizona official to move any deadlines to make it any easier for people to vote.
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that's arizona. in georgia, republican lawmakers have introduced sweeping election bills that would drastically reduce early voting and absentee voting. i mean, they saw what happened when all those people actually voted in this year's election. georgia went for the democratic presidential candidate and elected two democratic senators. got to fix that. over in iowa, the republican legislature actually passed and the republican governor is expected to sign a bill that cuts more than a week off the state's early voting period and closes polling places on election day an hour earlier. it also bans the state from sending absentee ballot applications to voters unless they explicitly request one. can't let that happen again. this is what republicans are working on in state legislatures across the country. this is the plan. we'll be right back.
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if you've seen "hidden figures" you know mary winston jackson. she was in a team of black mathematicians with nasa. she joined naca, nasa's predecessor as a computer as they were called back then. these women were mathematicians who ran equations for airio roe space at the langley research lab. even though discrimination in the defense industry was a federal offense, virginia state law still enforced segregation, so she worked in the segregated west area computing section and was forced to use separate bathroom facilities than her white counterparts. after two years in the computing pooshlgs she got an opportunity to work with the pressure tunnel.
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a 60,000 horse power tunnel that generated winds so fast that they were twice the speed of sound. mary jackson was still a computer, but taking part in hands-on experimental work. it was during that period that an engineer encouraged her to take a training course from the university virginia and become an engineer herself. this course involved graduate-level math and physics, which was no sweat for jackson. the only problem were the classes were administered by hampton school, which was a segregated school. mary had to petition the courts and get special permission from the city to attend. she was successful and in 1958 she became nasa's first black female engineer. mary jackson did this at a time when female engineers of any race were a rarity. for the next two decades she had a productive career and coauthored nearly a dozen research reports largely focused on the behavior of the boundary layer of air around airplanes. 1979 after years of trying to break into the ranks of management, jackson made the
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decision to leave engineering and take a position as nasa's federal women's program manager. that position allowed her to influence the hiring and promotion of a new generation of female scientists, engineers, and mathematicians. in addition to her research, jackson also volunteered with a science club teaching kids thousand build their own miniature wind tunnels. she told her local paper why she felt compelled to make science and math approachable to minority children. quote, sometimes they are not aware of the number of blacktists and they don't even know the career opportunities until it's too late. so it's only fitting that today as the white house and others recognize black history month, nasa honored mary winston johnson with a ceremony to officially rename its washington, d.c., headquarters building after her a tribute to a woman who not only broke barriers in science, but worked to make it easier for those to enter the spaces that tried to keep her out. how fitting to have to pass by her name on the way in the door. that does it for me tonight.
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watch me tomorrow morning on "velshi". i'll be bracing for what's to come with perhaps the world's topmost expert on what donald trump is capable of. his former personal fixer and confidant, michael cohen. that's tomorrow morning on my show from 8:00 to 10:00 a.m. eastern. time now for "the last word with lawrence o'donnell." good evening. >> good evening. you have a busy weekend of coverage this weekend. >> i do. looking forward to it as always. >> i'll be watching. thank you, ali. >> thanks. >> thank you. we're covering two breaking news stories at this hour, and at the end of the hour we will cover the most important ongoing political story of our time, the republican party's nationwide attempt in state legislatures to restrict voting in this country. we will be joined by arizona's secretary of state and she will get tonight's last word. the breaking news
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