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over a half million americans have died since that day. that is why it is incumbent on all of us that can still draw a breath to never forget. that is our broadcast for this friday night and for this week. thank you for being with us along the way. have a good and a safe weekend. on behalf of all of our colleagues at the networks of nbc news. good night. >> thank you to you at home for joining us. rachel has the night off. we are at this hour waiting for the united states house of representatives to vote on president biden's $1.9 trillion covid relief bill. we don't know when the vote will happen. but when the bill does finally get a vote. we know two things. one it will pass with overwhelming support from democrats and possibly no support from republicans despite it being incredibly popular with american voters of both parties.
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number, two the house bill will include an increase in the minimum wage to $15 an hour, even though we know that a covid relief bill with the $15 minimum wage cannot pass the senate. how is it all going to work? we will ask the chair of the congressional caucus about that this hour. a government scientific panel this evening recommended the johnson and johnson one-shot covid vaccine be approved by the fda and could be approved for use in the united states as soon as tomorrow. we will have more on that development in a few minutes. the news broke in the "new york times" that the fbi singled out a potential suspect in the death of the capitol police officer linked to the january 6th attack on the capitol. officer brian sicknick collapsed shortly after fighting with
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rioters at the capitol and died from his injuries. but the nature of the injuries and the cause of death have been a mystery. investigators think his death may have been related to an irritant like mace or bear spray deployed during the attack. according to the "new york times" investigators have pinpointed a person seen on video of the riot who attacked several officers with bear spray including officer sick nick. this appears to be the first major break through in this part of the case. more than 300 people have been charged in connection with the capitol riot. nobody has been charged in officer sicknick's death. first, do you remember the orb? it was this iconic momentarily in the trump presidency. like so many things in the trump presidency appeared
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simultaneously funny, creepy, possibly sinister and totally inexplicable. i can tell you that president trump was in saudi arabia in that photo attending the opening of some type of center, essentially for combatting extremism. he was there with the president of egypt and the king of saudi arabia in the middle. i can tell you that the orb is in fact a globe. but none of that really explains why there was a glowing globe in the middle of the room and why these three world leaders were required to place their hands on it and why they stood there with their hands on it for two minutes while soaring music played. the other thing that made the moment so weird is that it was donald trump's first foreign trip as president. he went to saudi arabia. that was his first trip. no ever president has made saudi
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arabia the first foreign trip. president trump wasn't the only person in the white house making saudi arabia a priority. jared kushner made at least three trips to saudi arabia during trump's first year in office. kushner flew there secretly. several nights where kushner and the crown prince of saudi arabia reportedly stayed up until 4:00 a.m. swapping stories and planning strategy. shortly after kushner got back from that trip, the crown prince enacted a brazen and brutal power play rounding up literally hundreds of members of the royal family and other members of the rich saudis and jailed them, torturing some of them. lots were forced to give up billions of dollars and any claims to power they had.
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he had not just tasid support from the white house. president trump tweeted approval of it. nothing could compare to the embarrassing and horrifying way that trump bent over backwards to protect saudi arabia's crown prince after the murder of jamal khashoggi. a frequent critic of the saudi regime. disappeared inside a saudi consulate in turkey in october 2018. first the saudis said nothing happened to him. then they claimed he died during an interrogation gone wrong and suggested it was work of a rogue group of saudi operatives working on their own. it was clear immediately that the suspects were directly tied to crown prince mbs and given
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how completely he had taken control of the levers of power in saudi arabia there was no way such an operation could have been carried out without his say-so. for president trump the problem didn't seem to be the -- >> a very bad original concept. it was carried out poorly. and the cover up was one of the worst in the history of cover-ups. very simple. bad deal. should have never been thought of. somebody really messed up. they had had the worst cover up ever. >> why did they cover it up so poorly. now i have to deal with it. after it was reported the cia concluded that mbs indeed ordered khashoggi's killing,
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trump put out a statement saying maybe he did it and maybe he didn't. the world is a very dangerous place. >> i saved his ass. i was able to get congress to leave him alone. one of the way he got congress to leave saudi's crown prince alone, ignoring a law requiring the director of national intelligence to send congress an unclassified report identifying those responsible for khashoggi's death. trump ignored the deadline and did not turn the report over. under the trump administration the us never acknowledged the crown prince's responsibility for khashoggi's murder. under a new president today that changed.
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we assess that saudi arabia's crown prince approved an operation in istanbul, turkey to capture or kill saudi journalist jamal khashoggi. the evidence includes the fact that seven members of the team responsible for khashoggi's murder were members of mbs' personal protective detail that answers only to him. and that the crown prince had absolute control making it highly unlikely that saudi officials would have carried out an operation of this nature without the crown prince's authorization. the state department enacted visa bans on 76 saudis.
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but of course the person conspicuously missing is the guy who ordered the killing, the crown prince himself. senior administration officials telling the "new york times" tonight that president biden decided the diplomatic cost of directly penalizing mbs is just too high. the decision by mr. biden, who during the 2020 campaign called saudi arabia a pariah state with no social value came after weeks of debate in which his newly formed national security team advised him there was no way to bar the heir to the saudi crown from entering the u.s. without breaching the relationship with one of america's key arab
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allies. i would like to show you new tape we got in this evening of president biden talking about this. he is speaking with our colleague at univision tonight. >> how far are you willing to go to press saudi arabia to comply with human rights? >> i spoke yesterday with the king, not the prince. made it clear to him the rules are changing. we are going to be announcing significant changes today and on monday. we are going to hold them accountable for human rights abuses. if they want to deal with us, deal with us in a way where human rights abuses are dealt with. we are trying to do it across the world and particularly here.
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>> president biden stressed he spoke with the king, not the prince. saudi arabia's king is technically in charge. the king is 85 and has been ill for some time. biden officials say it was unclear how much he absorbed of the conversation that president biden had with him yesterday. the president and future presidents are going to need to figure out how to deal with him. how do you evaluate this? there seems to be evidence all over the place. it is what the intelligence
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community concluded. how do we get around this? a lot of people were put on lists and sanctioned. >> i don't think that we can get around it and this had is a powerful statement by the intelligence community. they said the crown prince has blood on his hands and it is hard to hold accountable the people that did the deed and let the people that ordered the deal be done and off of the hook. i think he should be shunned. i think the frustration should go after assets of his.
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they are going to want to push back regardless of the action we take against the crown prince. >> i think you bring up an interesting point. if we had the conversation 15 years ago about american relations in saudi arabia, the number one concern would have been energy supply. we have come a long way from that. saudi arabia does work with other countries on counterterrorism and with iran. this administration seems to be letting the powers in the region, israel, saudi arabia and iran know things are going to look different moving forward. >> absolutely. it is going to be a very different relationship than it has been for the last four years where donald trump was willing
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to cover up for the murder of an american resident. it needs to be different and even for the administrations that preceded the last one. all of the interactions we had with the saudis have been entirely mixed. the degree saudi arabia supported these form of salaam as it created the climate for the proliferation of terrorism. i don't think it ought to cause us to cater to the crown prince. >> for those that would accuse the administration of being soft
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on iran, the air strike in syria was aimed at iranian militants in syria. you called it inadequate. you were looking into further standing behind the military action. >> what i have seen so far and is very preliminary. the strike was justified and proportion at and necessary to deter iran for further attacks on u.s. forces. i think the notification was in form only, not effective notification. so, we are raising the issues with the administration. and i want to explore in more depth the legal justification given it was an attack on a
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sovereign state. but this was a proportion at response and i think very important for the biden administration to signal to iran out of the gate it won't tolerate attacks on u.s. forces. >> good to see you. adam schiff is the chairman. we appreciate your time tonight. seven years ago on the do the look closely. their uniforms were unformed. vladimir putin sent thousands of troops took over the airport, the parliament buildings.
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he just stole it. seven years later, russia is still in ukraine. it hasn't given it back. the united states does not and will not recognize russia's purported annexation of the peninsula. the united states continues to stand with ukraine and allies and partners today as it has from the beginning of the conflict. on the comber anniversary we reaffirm a simple truth. president biden ran on the promise of realigning america's moral compass on the international stage. take the strong statement on ukraine and hold it up to the president's decision not to
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retaliate against the saudi crown prince for the murder of jamal khashoggi. the president has a difficult needle to thread. joining us is the director of global engagement at the university of beirut. thank you for being here. you heard my conversation with the congressman adam schiff. we understand the acknowledge that the crown prince was responsible for the death of jamal khashoggi and tonight faces nothing as a result. >> he faced symbolic actions. strong words. in syria we saw those against
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various targets. they reflect about three decades of american policy in the middle east. and policy that is based mostly on military strikes, sanctions and tough words. if you look at the last three decades the terrorist forces of isis and others are expanding around the world. the people that were sanctioned have not changed any of their policies. others have continued to operate. there is something wrong with american foreign policy that relies on strong words and military actions.
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with the extension of the iranian nuclear agreement. >> right. the iranian nuclear deal took ten years of effort and negotiation and two solid years of american involvement in the whole thing. they have moved forward there without the active engagement of the united states. >> we don't know what the reengagement is.
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the russians are a major player in the region. the turks. the opinion in the arab world is different than before. and reporters of the arab people are marginalized and powerless and rising up to overthrow their government. you need a more sophisticated and realistic and pragmatic american policy. and it has to start with the well-being of peept must be the bottom common denominator that we all work for. to address the equal needs of all of the people. and if the annexation in ukraine is about it will be bad in palestine with american support.
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there has to be more consistency and focus on the well-being and rights of order nary human beings. that is the american way according to the constitution and many other parts of american life. the director of global engagement at the american university of beirut. new information about the availability of covid vaccines. stay with us. e availability of covid vaccines stay with us ever notice how stiff clothes can feel rough on your skin? for softer clothes that are gentle on your skin, try downy free & gentle. downy will soften your clothes without dyes or perfumes. the towel washed with downy is softer, and gentler on your skin. try downy free & gentle.
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>> earlier today president biden and first lady dr. jill biden visited a new fema center in texas to tour the facility which opened a few days ago and to address america's vaccination
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effort. the opening of the new vaccination site where biden spoke is a feat. despite the massive winter storm that shook texas and up ended the power grid, the new site is up and running and capable of giving thousand of vaccine doses a day. a drive through center. amazing. made in hopes of targeting the most vulnerable communities in the area. one of the goals is to increase vaccine equity in the state. despite efforts across the nation to distribute the two vaccines on the market, most states have fallen short. white people are vaccinated at higher rates than black and latino and then this one out of california where vaccine access meant exclusively for people in hard-hit black and latino communities have been improperly used by wealthy white people instead. still there is a third vaccine on the horizon could expand
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access for everyone. 22-0 to recommend the emergency use administration for the johnson and johnson vaccine, calling the shot a crucial third option to get americans vaccinated. potentially johnson and johnson could be able to ship out 4 million doses on monday. let me tell you about this vaccine. 86% effective at preventing extreme illness and complete protection against hospitalization and death in the united states. 72% effective at preventing illness, less than pfizer's 95% efficacy or moderna's 94%. the white house has been working on messaging to encourage people to get the johnson and johnson shot despite the lower efficacy. according to nbc the strategy to
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blunt concern that the johnson and johnson vaccine is slightly less effective than vaccines produced by pfizer, and moderna. that pace could mean the whole ballgame. joining me now, lori garrett, a health policy expert covering the coronavirus crisis since day one. we started to speak more than a year ago and she is still on the case. thank you for being with us. given the difference in the efficacy of these two vaccines, even though the new johnson and johnson one is pretty effective, why would anybody choose to have it? >> well, i think that there is a bunch of issues going on here in
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terms of making choices about which vaccine to get. as an individual, you probably don't have a choice. i did not get to choose to have moderna. comparing the three vaccines, what we have been testing for is not whether or not vaccines keep you from getting infected but whether or not vaccines keep you from getting seriously ill and dying of the disease if you do get infected. what we still do not know and we are awaiting more and more data to come in on the vaccines already in use, whether or not they are very good at stopping an epidemic and preventing transmission from person-to-person. you could make a choice based on
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the data that is out. that might not be the relative data that matters whether or not you get infected if someone next to you is coughing out covid-19. at this point it is premature to say what is better than the other. certainly from the point of view of getting it around the country, to the middle of nowhere america. this is a much easier vaccine to ship around and far less likely to go bad sitting on the shelf and far more likely to be active the moment that it is injected into your body. >> and then there is another vaccine on the horizon which says the company expects their vaccine to be approved in the european union by june. we were talking several months ago we knew there were 5 to 7 vaccines on the horizon.
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the russians have a different one. we are starting to see the fruition of all of the efforts and in a few months we will have a number of choices or a number of options. >> yeah. the big problem now is number one, can the companies produce supplies that meet demands. they are all struggling to get their supplies out. keep in mind they don't just have a contract to produce for america. they have contracts for the whole world. they have obligations to the whole world. they are trying to crank out supply as fast as they can. the ceo of moderna said he thought they could crank out a billion doses before the end of 2021. an ambitious target to be sure. you want to crank them out without making mistakes. no contamination or substandard formulations. but now, already, very, very serious.
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syringes. the special boxes that you put the used syringe. just the alcohol swabs that go on your arms. on the syringes themselves. i just heard yesterday from a ceo of a major medical company that one fire in one factory. he wouldn't say in what part of the world. had resulted in a complete shut down of the supply chain for the sharpie boxes. >> wow. >> that shows you how vulnerable the supply chain is and how fragile that it is. >> i love you, ali, but i don't
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want to be here talking to you in a year. >> life will be better when we don't have to meet on tv all the time. laurie garrett, a health policy analyst and science journalist. one battle for raising the federal minimum wage to $15 is over. one of the major figures in the fight joins me after this. the fight joins me after this. super emma just about sleeps in her cape. i'm super emma. but when we realized she was battling sensitive skin, we switched to tide plus downy free. it's gentle on her skin, and out cleans our old bargain detergent. so, she can focus on saving the world,
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>> it could be a late night tonight on capitol hill. we are still awaiting a vote in the house on president biden's $1.9 trillion relief package. democrats are rushing to get it through congress as soon as possible. there is a deadline, middle of march for some of the benefits that are out. they are also staring down the deadline on march 14th. the bill as it stands now would provide direct relief for many americans, including $1,400
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relief checks for million of households, long overdue relief withheld by previous packages by congressional republicans and hundreds of billions more for vaccine distribution. to paraphrase one former president, the big is a big effing deal. yesterday the sent parlimentarian ruled when a planned increase to the minimum wage couldn't be included in the legislation if it is going to be able to pass through the budget reconciliation process meaning passing with a simple majority in the senate. this led the senate democrats to get creative to try to get around the senate rule and one proposal being considered by senator majority leader schumer is an idea put forward by bernie
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sanders after she issued the ruling to create a backdoor increase in the minimum wage by taking a way tax breaks from workers that don't pay their workers $15. experts believe that would certainly be allowed under the rules but the extent to which it would raise wages is how it would structured with some expressing concern it could leave a lot of workers out that would otherwise benefit from a flat increase in minimum wage. others have said she should either be fired, something republicans did in 2001 or overruled. something republicans did in 1975. house progressive caucus leader pramila jayapal tweeted -- 2/3
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of voters want this done. time to deliver. joining us, chair of the progressive caucus. congresswoman, thank you for being with us this evening. let me ask you about this. americans want a minimum wage increase. many americans deserve it. if you just take the minimum wage from 40 or 50 years ago and adjust it for inflation we would be close to $15 right now. a lot of states are passing minimum wage increases. what are the options if it does not get into or pass the senate bill? >> ali, first of all, i still think it can be included in the bill. as you said it is not unprecedented at all for the
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parliamentarian's opinion not to be listened to. hubert humphrey overruled them twice in 1967 and 1969 and vice president rockefeller in 1975. this is an urgent moment. this is a minimum wage increase that will lift 27 million americans out of poverty, lift the wanls of 27 million and million people out of poverty. this issue resonated across the country and particularly during covid when many of the workers are on the front lines. i haven't given up on the fight and i believe it can be included in the bill. if it isn't included in the bill, i think democrats have a crossroads in front of us. we need to recognize we made a promise to voters, black, brown, working-class voters in georgia and across the country that we were going to make a significant
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difference in lifting the floor for people across the country. and we have to decide if we are go to use every tool in our tool box. that is including it now in the relief bill or it is reforming the filibuster. unfortunately, republicans when it comes to many of these policies are not looking like they are going to listen to the people, including republicans that want a minimum wage increase. we can't go back, as i said and say sorry, the arcane senate rules told us that we couldn't do what we promised. they gave us majorities in the house. >> folks earning $8, they are not going to make sense of that argument. kind of weird though. there are not that many broad policies with this much support. it is across the board. in many states where they elected republicans across the board or state wide they enacted higher minimum wage increases.
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at some point this is impossible to reconcile. why republicans will not support a minimum wage increase. the federal minimum wage is $7.25. about $15,000 a year if you work full time. >> that is right. $15,000 a year if you are lucky enough to get that. i just talked to a home care worker in west virginia. looking after people with autisim. ali, he is earning $12,000. okay. $12,000. he can't buy a new car or take care of himself. i think this is the struggle that so many people across the country are facing. that is why florida, a state that went for donald trump in november also passed with a super majority of voters a $15 minimum wage. this is long overdue. it has been 12 years since the federal minimum wage has been raised. 2012 when fast food workers first went on strike with the
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fight for 15. it was 2014 when my city, seattle, became the first major city in the country to pass a minimum wage. almost ten years later talking about a phased in minimum wage over the next five years. this is urgent. we have to deliver on the promise. >> yeah. they said that seattle would be wiped off the face of the earth. all of the jobs would leave and seattle would collapse. congresswoman, thank you for taking time to join us tonight. the chair of the progressive caucus. the 2020 election did not go the way that republicans wanted. but instead of changing the policies they ran on, republican controlled state legislatures are trying to change how voting works. i will have more on that just ahead. ing works. i will have more on that just ahead. coats and kills bacteria to relieve diarrhea. see, pepto® diarrhea gets to the source, killing the bad bacteria. so, make sure to have pepto® diarrhea on hand. ♪ for every idea out there, that gets the love it should ♪
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arrested. republican state senators failed by just one vote to approve a measure to lockup all five maricopa county supervisors because they had the nerve to declare that joe biden won their county fair and square in the 2020 presidential election, because the board of supervisors would not hand over the county's voting machines and all of the county ballots so state senate republicans could personally dig in and find all of the fraud that must have caused donald trump to lose in arizona. now the results are in from two new audits of the presidential vote in maricopa county. both of the independent outside auditors determined nothing was hacked. the election was sound. arizona republicans are not handling this well. today they got a judge to order maricopa county officials to turn over all of the ballots and
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voting machines to the state officials to do their own audit. arizona lawmakers discussed a bill that would let the state legislature overturn any election result it does not like. under the bill the legislature could just send their own slate of presidential electors to congress regardless of which candidate won the popular vote in arizona. now that bill may not survive. but arizona republicans are moving forward with a bill that would kick a bunch of voters off of the early voting and shorten the early voting period and make it a felony for any arizona official to move any deadlines to make it any easier for people to vote. that is arizona. in georgia, republican lawmakers introduced sweeping election bills that would drastically reduce early and absentee voting. they saw what happened when all of the people actually voted in this year's election. georgia went for the democratic
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presidential candidate and elected two democratic senators. got fix that. in iowa the legislature passed and a republican governor is expected to sign a bill that cuts more than a week off of the state's early voting period, and closes polling places on election day an hour earlier and bans the state from sending absentee ballots to voters unless they request one. iowa successfully got huge turn out by just sending a absentee ballot to every eligible voter. can't let that happen again. this is what republicans are working on in state legislatures across the country. this is the plan. we'll be right back. be right ba. ♪ hey now, you're a rock star, get the show on, get paid ♪ ♪ and all that glitters is gold ♪ get 5 boneless wings for $1 with any handcrafted burger. only at applebee's. (woman) what should we do with it first? with any (man)rafted burger. road trip.
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if you have seen the movie "hidden figures" you know about mary winston jackson. she was portrayed in a film of black female mathematicians at nasa. these people were mathematicians who ran equations and calculations for research at the langley research lab. even though discrimination in the defense industry was a federal offense virginia state law enforced segregation. jackson worked in the segregated computing section and was forced to use separate bathroom facilities as her white counterparts. she had an opportunity to work with the supersonic pressure tunnel. it was a 60,000 horsepower tunnel that generated winds so fast they were twice the speed
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of sound. mary jackson was still a computer, but taking part in hands on experimental work. it was during that period an engineer encouraged her to take a training course and become an engineer herself. the only problem is that the classes were administered by hampton high school, a segregated school. mary had to petition the courts and get special permission to attend. she was successful and in 1958 became nasa's first black female engineer. mary jackson did it at a time when female engineers of any race were a rarity. for the next two decades she had a productive career and co-authored a dozen research reports on the behavior of the boundary layer of air around airplanes. 1979 after years of trying to break into the ranks of management jackson left engineering and took a position
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as nasa federal women's program manager allowing her to influence a new generation of female scientists, engineers and mathematicians. in addition to research jackson volunteered with a science club teaching kids how to build their own miniature wind tunnels and talked about why she felt it important. sometimes they are not aware of the number of black scientists and don't know the number of career opportunities until it is too late. as the white house and others recognize black history month, nasa honored mary winston jackson to officially rename the washington d.c. headquarters building after her. a tribute to a woman who worked to make it easier to enter the spaces. how fit to pass by her name on the way out the door. that does it for me tonight. watch me tomorrow morning with
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the former president set to give his first public remarks since flaming out as president with a violent attack on the capitol. tomorrow, what donald trump is capable of, his former fixer michael cohen. tomorrow morning lawrence, good evening. >> good evening. you have a busy weekend of coverage this weekend. >> i do. but i'm looking forward to it as always. >> i'll be watching. thank you, ali. >> thanks. >> thank you. we're covering two breaking news stories at this hour, and at the end of the hour we will cover the most important ongoing political story of our time, the republican party's nationwide attempt in state legislatures to restrict voting in this country. we will be joined by arizona's secretary of state and she will get tonight's last word. the breaking news in congress tonight is the voting on the biden covid relief bill. the other breaking news of the