headquarters in new york, approaching high noon in the east, 9:00 a.m. out west. welcome to "weekends with with the with the." breaking news, president biden in the last hour delivering brief remarks in a rare saturday appearance turning up the heat on congress to get his covid relief bill across the finish line. >> we have no time to waste. we can finally get ahead of this virus and get our economy moving again. the people of this country have suffered far too much for too long. >> it comes on the heels of an early morning vote in the house down party lines passing the $1.9 trillion package. the bill makes its way to the senate where a bigger battle waits and democratic unity faces its first major litmus test. this as the. the is facing new questions for his decision to not directly penalize saudi crowned prince mohammad bin salman for the killing of jamal khashoggi after

the intel report indicated mbs. >> he's not making them a pariah. what's changed in >> reporter: he has made clear to them and our administration as made clear up and down the line this won't be tolerated. this will not be tolerated and we've taken steps today. you noted treasury and state are taking steps today to sanction individuals to sanction networks who were involved with this horrific murder. so steps clear and important steps have been taken. >> and major developments on the covid front. the fda is expected to green light another coronavirus vaccine, in fact, any moment now the agency's advisory committee strongly endorsed the johnson & johnson vaccine last night, paving the way for final approval sometime this weekend. the j&j shot will be the third vaccine in the u.s. and the first to require just a single dose. meantime in orlando, cpac, 24 hours or so donald trump is set to make his first public

appearance since leaving office. a lot to look out for. reverend sharepoint sharepoint will tell me about his interview with vice president kamala harris and 1:00 p.m. eastern, congress ted lieu talks about air strikes in syria. should congress have been consulted on that one and at 2:00 eastern, congressman roh khanna on the fight for a $15 minimum wage. first check in with reporters and analysts and more of the big headlines on this saturday. we begin with shannon pettypiece in wilmington, delaware, ahead of the president's arrival. food saturday to you, my friend. what did we hear from president biden a short time ago? >> reporter: you can hear him keeping pressure on congress, particularly the senate, who gets this bill on their table next, to get this passed and get it passed quickly. there's this march 15th deadline, when extended unemployment benefits run out for millions of americans.

the white house has been pushing to get this passed before that deadline. here is what president biden had to say last hour. >> for a few weeks now, an overwhelming percentage of american public has made it clear that they support my american rescue plan. >> -- for my american rescue plan, and the house of representatives took the first step toward making it a reality. and i want to thank and i called her just a few moments ago, nancy pelosi, for her extraordinary leadership, speaker pelosi, and all those who supported our plan and with their vote, we're one step closer to vaccinating the nation, we are one step closer to putting $1,400 in the pockets of americans. >> reporter: this is stripped out because of senate rules and bathe house for another procedural vote. the expectation is in the senate without the $15 minimum wage

this will be able to get unanimous democrat support and the tiebreaking vote by the vice president get passed, through congress. the white house all along hoped they'd pick off a few republicans here and there to get this to be a bipartisan bill. that did not happen in the house. there's a possibility it could happen in the senate but not looking great. a wake-up call to this administration as well about how easy for difficult it's going to be to get bipartisan work done in congress. >> a wake-up call indeed but perhaps not a surprise, having to wake up to that call. shannon, stay with me please. i'll bring you back in a couple of minutes with my panel. from there to capitol hill, the scene of this morning's very close house vote to shannon's point, 219 for, 212 against. amanda, welcome. the battle lines are being drawn as this moves to the senate. >> reporter: exactly right. this is an incrediby partisan outcome for the first major

legislative package for president biden, just seeing there was no republican support for what was passed in the wee hours of the morning by the house and additionally two democratic defectors who voted not to move forward with this relief package that was congressman golden and schrader, and just to see how much is in this bill, let's take a step back further and see that $1,400 direct payments to individuals, $400 a week in extra jobless benefits, billions for vaccine distribution, and manufacturing, testing as well, $350 billion in state and local aid, but these partisan lines are not thinning any time soon. listen to what some of the leadership within the house on both sides said last night amid debate. >> if we do not enact this package, the results could be catastrophic. 4 million fewer jobs, taking a year longer to return to full unemployment and four years

longer until real gdp recovers to a pre-pandemic status. >> mr. speaker, i'm about to say something that the american people don't want to hear. the swamp is back. the democrats are so embarrassed by all the non-covid waste in this bill, they are jamming it through in the dead of night. >> reporter: alex, keep in mind that this is coming just one month after joe biden was sworn into office when he called on bipartisanship and unity. the lines are intact and preview for the senate, this will face further hurdles with the senate parliamentarian ruling the $15 minimum wage increase included in the house bill cannot be continued within the senate, saying that it does not abide by the rules by which reconciliation, that process that dems are trying to use to move forward without gop votes to move that stimulus forward that it cannot happen within this package.

they have to make changes before it goes to joe biden's desk and president biden is looking to get this into shape before unemployment benefits expire by mid march. >> thank you so much. we appreciate that, amanda. ann guerrin and al sharpton and shannon pettypiece. ann, you first here. you heard president biden's remarks. on a scale of one to ten, ten the big victory, where do you think this moment falls? >> i guess i'd give it a seven. it is definitely a good thing, much better than the alternative from the white house perspective. this is the president's first legislative victory from their perspective, they would have

preferred this happened two weeks ago. things got off to a slower start in congress than they wanted, the impeachment trial and other delays. nonetheless, this is his top priority and he got it. so you know, they would say good. however, he didn't get one republican vote. he said in part the reason he was elected is because he could reach across the line. he has a history of bipartisanship and making deals. in this case he didn't get any republican support and he actually lost two democrats. so it's not for sure. >> seven is probably about right. rev, to that point, every single republican voted against this bill. given that we are in the midst still in this pandemic, there's plenty of economic pain being felt across the spectrum. in some way, does it make it though a bigger victory for democrats?

i'm trying to put a positive spin on all this. >> i think it does in the long run become a positive for democrats, when you look at the fact that we're going to have congressional incented races next year. you have the opportunity to go to the constituents and say they voted against you getting your $1400 or $400 added to your unemployment. they voted against covid aid and i don't know how they defend that. it reminds me when a lot of the republicans came out against the affordable care act, and they started going to their town hall meetings and they got backlash and they had to reverse themselves. i think that it is clearly not giving the president the ability to say he can do things bipartisan but i think it also gives a tremendous bullet that the democrats can fire at the

republicans as they did with the affordable care act and find out their constituents do want this, including the $15 minimum wage. >> shannon, given the polls showed a vast majority of the public approved of the bill, democrats to the rev's point can hail the $1,400 checks to people. how do republicans sell their no votes? that seems like political folly. >> this would have been their first moment to demonstrate the republican resistance to the biden presidency. there was talk about mobilizing real campaign organized with messaging to take this first bill on. particularly around the $15 minimum range but issues and concerns raised by democrats, senator joe manchin. republicans really never got their messaging organized, never got the message about how the

minimum wage could hurt small businesses, about government waste and deficit. there was no organized message from the republicans and that speaks to of course this broader disconnect going on with the republican party and the various factions and general identity crisis about what the republican party stands for and where it is going. can they get more organized and on the same page for the next piece of legislation the biden administration plans which is supposed to be a broader infrastructure package? it has widespread support but is going to be in the trillions of dollars. i think that's, you know, unclear whether they can do that now. this was no tea party type resistance to health care, like we have seen. we know the republican party can coordinate. this was really a scatter shot and the message never caught on. >> interesting. rev, i want to talk about the exclusive interview that you have with vice president kamala harris. you did that this week, the entire interview is going to be

coming up at 5:00 p.m. here is what she told you about the covid relief bill. let's all listen to that. >> what we need to do is pass the american rescue plan so we can get the $1,400 checks to folks so we can save our small businesses, so that we can pass the child tax credit so that families can lift half of american children who are living in poverty out of poverty. let's extend the unemployment benefits. let's do all of these things, partnering together, so that we can get through this moment of crisis. >> in her logic what fits is talking about the $15 minimum wage part of the bill, and this is just a clip. did she say when that might be taken up? do you think it's a sticking point for democrats since it's not going to be in the final bill? >> no, she did not say that specifically, but if it is going to be a sticky part for democrats, i think they're going to have to follow up and get

that $15 an hour wage off the, on the docket. certainly won't be now. they have to fight for that. there's tremendous energy among progressives and even moderate democrats. people cannot live off of $7 and change an hour. it is something that is unthinkable. and i think that it is clear that the democrats have to have that at the top of their agenda. >> yes, and i want to ask you about the other breaking news, the release of the intel report that directly implicated mbs in the death of jamal khashoggi. did the white house think that merely making it public would be a punishment of sorts for saudi arabia? >> actually, yes, they do, in their view, the fact that this report, the contents of which have never been a secret frankly, by making it public, the white house is making a much

broader statement than who is responsible for jamal's death, and they're right to an extent. the fact that the former president shielded mbs and bragged about it, that's just not going to happen under president biden, but at the same time, they took a big step back from the expectations that president, now president biden had set as a candidate, when he said that he was going to treat saudi arabia differently and consider them a pariah state and make them, in his words, make them the pariah state they are. well, he added one more person to the sanctions list that was already there from the trump administration and didn't go the one big final step of sanctioning mbs himself, and the white house explanation for that is, you know, we just can't do that. this guy is a member of the royal family, a grandson of the founder of the country. he is the son of the king.

he will be king. we just can't go there. we made it plain how we feel about him. we're not going to let him get on the phone with president biden right now but we couldn't take that last step, which is a disappointment to a lot of human rights activists. >> rev, one more time. we want to promote what you've got, a great exclusive with the vice president. is there a particular issue that she talked about that we should all be listening for, coming up at 5:00 p.m. eastern or is there something that you heard that surprised you? >> well, the basis of the interview as i had made the request, i had known her since she was a da in san francisco but i made the request she come on the last weekend of black history month to talk about what black history meant to her. she comes out of an hbcu. so we talk a lot about her personal development and heros in black history and the issues of black people today and as she said in the interview, it's the issues of all americans, where we are on race today, and what

surprised me as well as i know is how open she was, about the challenges she faced coming along, and where she sees it her responsibility to not only serve blacks but us all and understand the black experience and we pretaped it. i rarely do pretape. the rest of my show is live but it was very, very moving to me to see her giving credit to people like shirley chisholm and kept going back to rev, we have to make history now. we have to deal with covid-19 which is in many ways the issue of today, because blacks are being disproportionately impacted by it. so much so that i told her the next day i would go get my shot while she was going to the pharmacy for the vaccine that i took ten minutes and we went and got vaccinated on thursday, the day after i did my interview with the vice president. >> ref, you got your shot? what was that like? anything, any reaction? did it hurt? no? >> you know, i got no side

effects. >> good. >> i was a little sore. i didn't feel tired. i got up and worked out like i do every morning, didn't feel tired. i went through my whole schedule, my radio show and all, i went yesterday in atlanta and did a book signing. i haven't felt anything at all. i might have got a little, little weariness five or ten minutes but i see with the with the my energy comes back. >> you're the best. i took my mom to get her shot, it was great. i was so happy, we were all so happy, and i asked the nurse, she was administering the shot to my mom, do people come here, are they happy, are they relieved or what? she said everybody's happy. it's a sense of relief, i'm sure, so anyway, well i'm glad to see you and also the two of you and my friends anne gearan and shannon pettypiece. we saw the video of you, rev, getting your shot. catch his interview with vice president kamala harris on "politics nation" today at 5:00

eastern on msnbc. there's a new and alarming question being raised today about the death of the capitol hill police officer during the riots. what was in that spray, just one of a number of new headlines about january 6th. each one offering important potential clues.

breaking news on the capitol hill riots. fbi investigators are closing in on what they're calling an assailant in the death of brian sicknick. investigators pinpoint aid person on video who attacked officers with a chemical spray. also some shocks new body cam video. federal prosecutors say it shows a former nypd officer the man in red right there charging a d.c. police officer during the riot. we certainly saw a lot of that video. new charges against six indicted members of the proud boys white

nationalist group additionally charged with conspiracy to impede the electoral college count and deadly threat over the capitol, involving the upcoming address to congress. >> we know that members of the militia groups that were present on january 6 have stated their desires that they want to blow up the capitol and kill as many members as possible with a direct nexus to the state of the union, which we know that date has not been identified. >> joining me now, clint watts, former fbi special agent, distinguished research fellow at the foreign policy research institute and nbc news analyst and contributor. clint, welcome. good to see you. when i heard the d.c. acting chief saying these groups are targeting a joint session of congress, pretty chilling, actually. i'm curious what your reaction is to that and how realistic is that kind of threat? does it square with what you've

been monitoring? >> alex, it sure doesn't sound like that's a pro free speech or pro second amendment group. it seems like insurrectionist group. we've seen quite a bit of that online. militia groups hide behind free speech. the distinction is open advocating violence that allows fbi and state and low law enforcement to investigate. there have been online threats for months regarding members of congress, congress as a whole, elected officials throughout the united states predominantly those that are noted in president trump's tweets of many months ago. i don't think it's realistic that such a plot would unravel. at this point there's never been more security around the capitol and the fbi is closing in daily arresting one, two, three

individuals every single day in multiple jurisdictions. >> i've been told by you and others they are not going to rest until they feel they have every single one they need to go after. a couple new items on the capitol hill police officer who died, brian sicknick. there was the spray that was used, some say it was bear spray. is that what you suspect? authorities have an image. is it a matter of time? >> i do. i think it's a matter of time. they're not going to let that one go, the pinnacle of this entire investigation, a homicide that happened at the capitol against a law enforcement officer. in terms of the chemical it's hard to know things that are readily available that can project further that is a bear spray or bear repellant, animal repellant spray. we don't know if that was the cause of death.

there's a lot unknown around that officer. what i would like to say about it, this should be the focal point. i'm sure the fbi will run it to ground but it's also strange when we were back at the hearings last week to hear senator holley, who seemed concerned about law enforcement yet out there urging on the rallies, really pumping that up. it seems like that's a very duplicative stance when you think of the outcome of the law enforcement. >> clint, congress is going to be holding hearings, but we also continue to have the fbi looking for the suspect who planted the pipe bombs, right? those two, where are we on that? there doesn't seem to be anything yet. there is $100,000 reward but it is taking a long time. do you think the chance of finding the person depicted in the photo are good at this point? >> i think it is good, alex,

because look, the two priorities are going to be those that are most acute to violence, the police officer we saw that was killed. it's going to be the bombing or the bombs that were placed and in some of the discussions this week we learned it was the bombs that triggered many of the actions to evacuate members of congress. i think those two investigations will be cleared ultimately and they will focus on those as leading parts. there's a third investigation which i was very surprised did not come up, which is what about the officers that are part of the capitol police that may have been complicit and egging on the protests or helping assist in that protest? it's very unclear. you can see the videos out on social media, looks like officers were essentially opening gates or assisting in terms of letting protesters come through. i am most curious why no senators brought that up during that hearing and we will hear more about that part of the investigation. >> yes, well here is something that was brought up and this is by a republican senator ron johnson during the hearings.

he was talking about trying to get to the bottom of the security failures at the capitol. here's what he said. >> many of the marchers were families with small children, elderly, overweight or just plain tired or frail and he describes four different types of people, plain clothed militants, agents provacateur, fake trump protesters and disciplined uniformed column of attack ers. these are the people that probably planned this. >> i almost feel like i have to apologize we have to get into this. i'm curious, a, why this is still going on and his point, fake trump protesters? i mean, is that laughable? is there any credence to that? >> they were at the president's talk in front of the capitol that day. these are folks that were open and online talking about going to the capitol, starting an

insurrection, how do you fund raise, mobilize to get there in terms of logistics. is it possible to bring weapons? they're asking these questions. they showed up there the night before at the rallies. they were there that day and the president was there, and they were as you can see from that image covered in the gear. so it is a nonsensical distraction, a way to make both sides argument. there was no both sides this day. the president was out on the lawn and his supporters moved from that lawn up to the capitol that day. >> okay. clint watts always good to talk to you and get your insights. frightening as it may be some somedays. good to see you. you could argue it's one of the most divisive acts ever in the halls of congress. my panel will weigh in on an offensive attack on the family of a fellow member of congress. an air force veteran made of doing what's right, not what's easy. so when a hailstorm hit, usaa reached out before he could even inspect the damage. that's how you do it right. usaa insurance is made just the way

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we're giving you a live look at the conservative political action conference in orlando in

full swing as top republicans take the stage and as we watch what unfolds today there was a shocking moment yesterday when cpac officials addressed the crowd. >> please, everyone when you're in the ballroom, seated, you should still be wearing a mask, so if everybody can go ahead, work on that. i know, i know, it's not the most fun. >> freedom! >> you have the right -- you have the right to set your own rules in your own house and we're borrowing somebody else's house. >> ali vitaly joins us from cpac in florida. that was stunning, in addition to that, what have you seen and heard from republicans so far? >> definitely that kind of animosity of mask wearing. yesterday when i dipped inside

for a few minutes 60% wearing masks, 40% not so much or incorrectly. this is donald trump's party. people who aren't republicans and haven't marched in lock step. senator scott has the added benefit or bonus of trying to win back the republican majority in the senate in 2022. his situation is complicated because for him, he told me there's no such thing as a republican civil war. he's canceling that, a little bit of a reference to cancel culture that is a conversation that's alive and well here but not within a few hours of my conversation with senator scott kimberly guilfoyle got on stage and said that everyone in the crowd should start handing out pink slips electorally to lawmakers who didn't march in lock step with donald trump. one of those is congressman liz cheney, the number three house

republican who voted to impeach the former president a few weeks ago. that still has ripple effects through trump world as donald trump, jr., the former president's son got on stage and had liz cheney in his sights. listen. >> the one thing i'll say for liz cheney is i'm sure she has a lot of bipartisan support because if there's one thing that she and joe biden definitely want to do is bomb the middle east. >> to me the whole concept of the mr. potato head you could move the parts around. mr. potato head was america's first transgender doll and even he got canceled. >> on january the 6th, i objected during the electoral college certification. maybe you heard about it. [ cheers and applause ] >> reporter: anyone watching this difference of opinion and these rifts explored within the gop you can look at a microcosm and house leadership alone, starting to rub off on trump. politico is reporting kevin

mccarthy, house minority leader is maybe potentially on trump's bad side now because of the way that he reacted to the censure of congresswoman cheney a few weeks ago. interesting to see, because trump is on stage tomorrow closing out the conference, the first time we've seen him since he left office over a month ago and considering the way that this conference has gone, a lot of airing of grievances that feel trump themed, we could hear a lot of the same things from the former president himself. >> i'll correct you one thing, donald trump jr. said this, i think it's more like donald trump jr. shouted that. wow, that guy was amped up. thank you very much. appreciate that. if any of you thought congress was divided before, think again. tensions have reached a new high on capitol hill as democrats are furious over the january 6th riots and the role their colleagues played into it. the report is spilling into

nearly every aspect of life in the house, squashing hopes for comity and threatening mundane legislative tasks. joining me is zerena maxwell and elise jordan, former aide in the george w. bush white house and kurt bar della. glad to see you. let's talk about the anger we're seeing from the democrats. it's kind of getting in the way of even the most simple legislation. "bad blood reached a new level this week when on tuesday, sean casten took the highly unusual step of forcing a full floor vote on an uncontroversial bill to name a mississippi post office because it was authored by a republican who voted to overturn the election. elise, you hear first on the temperature of things.

congress was grid locked before january 6th, right, but how is bipartisanship possible? how do republicans and democrats work together? >> when you have donald trump's radicalized supporters storm the capitol at his encouragement and incitement and force members into hiding and fearing for their lives you might have trauma in the aftermath and wounds to heal. hasn't seemed like many republicans are that ready or willing to address what happened and how damaging and terrible the day that was. the lingering wounds will fester and fester and we see that in this bill not wanting to approve the post office name in mississippi and it's these members that didn't vote to uphold the results of a free and fair election and that's a stain

that will stick with them not just throughout congressional terms but history will judge them. >> this exchange at the hearing on the postal service. >> we had an election. it was all a charade, part of the predicate for laying the groundwork for the mail-in ballots and all the chaos and confusion the democrats wanted. >> all the gas lighting that we just heard does not change facts. i didn't vote to overturn an election and i will not be lectured by people who did about partisanship. >> zerlena, is this the tenor of this exchange what republicans have created? >> yes, alex. i think that in terms of democrats and republicans working together, i think that starts with a premise of everyone agree that donald trump

did not win the election. joe biden won the election. it was not stolen from everyone. this election was free and fair and it's the republicans who are unable to admit that out loud because they're scared of upsetting donald trump and those supporters who believe that lie. that's not on the democrats. they should focus on working with or without republican support and in that means getting rid of the fill butts e, so be it. this is the result of a perpetuation of lies and until republicans have the bravery and the courage to stand up and at mitt the truth we're going to have this issue. jim jordan is gas lighting. that was what that was. this election was free and fair and donald trump did not win. >> i have to remind our viewers and i think this was you that applauded the acts of liz cheney standing up, something you

admitted you were surprised but nonetheless, you called her out in a positive way in voting her conscience and truth. after a contentious debate on the equality act, congressman marie newman raised a transgender ride flag outside her office which happens to sit directly across from marjorie taylor greene's office, one of the bill's most vocal owe points. greene responded with her own video that was mocking newman's tweet hanging up a poster outside her office that said there are two genders, male and female. trust the science. what is more damaging? >> really i think they're one in the same. it's laughable for someone who theorized about lasers in outer space controlled by jewish people causing wildfires to say the word science in any sentence

at all, putting that aside, you're seeing open and flagrant bigotry which ties into the radical extremist nature of the republican party, the openness of racism and anti-democratic values, spilling into full broad public view. for the better part of the republican existence they tried to hide and mask them in public policy, in patriotism and expressions of being for democracy. that's gone, they're moving that apparition and donald trump will take the stage tomorrow and put that on full display. he is the republican party. for the talk about there being civil war within the republican party let's be clear, this might be where i agree with rick scott, there is no civil war. one side completely slaughtered the other. there might be a few voices that are dissenting but the

republican party of today is the party of matt gaetz and jim jordan and marjorie taylor greene and conspiracy theories, people who have chosen deliberately to defend those who sought to overthrow our government, hang the vice president, assassinate the speaker of the house. they have chosen those people over the rest of us and the coming fight in politics will be about a direction of the country either you support people who believe if you aren't white and don't look like them you are less than them and the rest of us who believe in equality and equity for everybody else in this country. >> elise, did we hear any republicans call out marjorie taylor greene for those actions? >> if they did, i missed it. >> me, too. >> i'm so sad we're at the point of utter nastiness from elected officials and it certainly is a

tone donald trump brandished and proud of using his twitter mega phone to be as cruel and inhuman to many people as possible and marjorie taylor greene trying to pick up the pieces of that political legacy and continue on. it's a sad day when it is cheered on, just the kind of hatred she is espousing and the nastiness and cruelty. >> i'll ask you zerlina for the final word, the behavior of marjorie taylor greene representative of a component of the republican party these days. >> donald trump normalized racism and bigotry, normalized this nastiness that elise is talking about. marjorie taylor greene is mimicking what she saws is a successful way to attract the

republican base. that is a reflection of the voters and it is really sad, alex. i was raised by parents who taught me to be kind and compassionate. i wish other people's parents raised them to be that way. unfortunately we have public officials not setting that example. we are in a new administration. joe biden and kamala harris can counter. i don't know why they have to remind us every single opportunity they get that they are mean. i don't know what that has to do with public service and being in the government, but here we are. >> here we are. guys, let's be here again next weekend. thank you to all of you and be sure to catch zerlina weeknights at 6:00 eastern on the peacock streaming channel the choice. thanks elise and kurt, too. we're awaiting word from the fda on final approval for the johnson & johnson vaccine. i'll speak with a doctor who is the lead researcher for the j&j vaccine and while it provides

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warning from the head of the cdc the decline in new cases and hospitalizations may be stalling as new virus variants emerge. >> the latest data suggests that these declines may be stalling potentially leveling off at still a very high number. in fact, cases have been increasing for the past three days, compared to the prior week but it's important to remember where we are in the pandemic. things are tenuous. now is not the time to relax restrictions. >> and the biden administration purchased 100,000 doses of a recently approved antibody treatment, the drug is meant for patients who have covid and are at risk of severe illness, early data suggests it could work well against variants. and with the possibility of a new vaccine in sight, new york city officials are easing some restrictions but there is a rift between city leaders and health experts over the spread of new variants. mayor bill de blasio blasted reported he thought required

more research. movie theaters reopen next week with 25% capacity, let's go to cory coughlan outside a theater in times square. what is the reaction to theaters opening but business in general in that tourist-centric part of new york city. >> reporter: yes, by the way i have a movie theater in front of me and behind me. obviously you can't throw a stone too far before you hit a movie theater in this area. by and large the idea here from businesses is that not only are movie theaters but restaurants are the lifeblood of this town. they need more of these businesses able to reopen safely of course. they need tourists slowly coming back safely. they want businesses to continue opening, they do not want to see more closures but of course, then you have the scientific community sounding the alarm about this possible new variant, so-called new york variant, in

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david, let's get into this. i'm curious who is considering buying the faltering trump businesses and if trump's brand is failing, what's in it for investors? >> what's in it they can take trump's name off. a number of folks who look at his office buildings, hotels, a lot of his golf resorts and say these are good properties, they're well maintained, nice places. covid's a problem but that will eventually end. the reason they're doing badly is a thing that trump can't fix but other people could, which is the trump name. if you buy trump's name, you buy trump's property, take off trump's name, some investors think you could have a 30% or 40% increase in value basically overnight. you buy it low and immediately when you take the name off, it's worth more. >> interesting. so donald trump and his family members, they could be facing a number of legal challenges now that's out of office. would lawsuits potentially prevent him in any way from being able to sell? >> i don't think so. you're right there's a number of investigations, at least six investigations that we know of,

dozens of lawsuits and probably more to come. so trump has a lot of money that's raised through political fund-raising, probably could you always use more and going to be a lot of legal fees. i don't think that there would be any problem in terms of buying it, in terms of buying the properties other than a pr hit and that's something the investors have talked about. look, we don't want to be seen as the guys who bailed out donald trump even if we bought a bunch of his properties we think we got a good deal it's tens of millions of dollars, maybe more than $100 million and if people say these guys bailed out trump that could hurt our public perception. >> out of all the businesses are there any in particular he might be forced to sell? >> the question there would be related to the properties he has deutsche bank loans, trump hotel chicago, trump hotel in d.c. and doral resort in miami that have big deutsche bank loans and all of them are doing poorly in part of trump's brand but the covid virus has slammed the tourism business more generally.

more investors think i don't want to buy the property. i want to buy the loan. i could get the loan for cheaper and if trump doesn't make the payments i could foreclose on it and get the property for cheap. there's a lot of steps on the way before you could do that. deutsche bank has to be willing to sell the loans, trump has to default but a lot the investors say that's the best play is to buy the loan, not the property. >> interesting. you covered another article about trump's legal team that they've turned over his tax returns to the manhattan d.a., after the supreme court of course ruled against trump keeping them private. what exactly is the district attorney looking for? >> i guess wonders of being a prosec prosecutor, you can look for pretty much anything you want. the manhattan district attorney is looking far and wide at all aspects of trump's business, different properties, valuations, their tax valuations, violations for lenders. now he has millions of dollars, millions of pages of trump's tax returns, so he pretty much has a

license to look in there and find whatever he can that looks like trump broke the law. but i don't think it's going to be fast. that's why i think people should be wary of predictions that we're going to see the tax returns or a charge against trump in the next few weeks. it's millions of pages. even as an expert that takes a long time to go through. >>'d.a. brings criminal charges, do details from the tax returns become public? >> that's the most likely avenue that we would see them. somebody from trump org or trump himself is charged based on things in the tax returns likely the tax returns would be submitted into the court record as evidence, as exhibits, and that's when we might see some or all of these tax returns. if no charges are ever filed, we probably will not ever see the district attorney releasing the tax returns to the public. >> since there will be an election and presumed thatcy advance will not run again for d.a., does that make sense if it's still under way and figuring out charges, anything

that a new d.a. could do to change that or halt the investigation in. >> i suppose, yes. he hasn't said it yet but a lot of people expect cy vance will not run again this fall. i anticipate vance will make some decision. he already worked on this for two years. i don't think he'll hand over the unresolved decision to his successor. the successor could choose to drop it, could choose to change it, there's lots of choices they could have. this is manhattan politics. i don't think anybody is going to run for office going easy on donald trump in 2021. >> good point. thank you so much. nbc news analyst who knew jamal khashoggi will talk about president biden's decision not to penalize the saudi crowned prince, that's next. kin, we switched to tide plus downy free. it's gentle on her skin, and out cleans our old bargain detergent. tide pods plus downy free.

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