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vaccine. johnson & johnson's single-dose vaccine has a lower efficacy rate compared to pfizer and moderna's two-dose vaccines in terms of preventing you from contracting the virus, but it's highly effective and preventing serious cases of covid-19 and shown to completely prevent hospitalizations and death as soon as four weeks after an immunization. it's also easier to ship and store compared to pfizer and moderna vaccines. 4 million doses of the johnson & johnson vaccine are expected to start shipping tomorrow with the goal of 20 million doses being available by the end of march. and because needed, that translates directly to 20 million people being immunized. joining me from outside the mckesson facility in shepardsville is ellison barber.
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>> reporter: based on the timing we've seen with the past covid-19 vaccines authorized in the united states, once they're able to leave the facility, we could see and should see vaccines going in arms within days. so the next big step at this point or the last step actually is for the cdc advisory board to meet and make recomme expect thn later today at about 3:00. after that, johnson & johnson can start moving their vaccines and we'll likely see trucks leaving this facility first thing tomorrow morning. as you said, we expect in the first week to see johnson & johnson distribute 4 million doses of their vaccine, 20 million by the end of march, 100 million by june. so a lot of vaccines, and obviously the big thing is these are single doses. that is one of the biggest differences, the biggest difference i think many people would say between the prior
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vaccines we've seen authorized in the united states and this one. with the johnson & johnson vaccine you only need one dose. with pfizer and moderna you needed to get two. the other big difference, temperature. this vaccine only needs to be stored at refrigerated temperatures. moderna needed to be kept at freezing temperatures, pfizer, subzero temperatures. that meant special refraj iters that not everyone had, not everyone could afford to get in their hack centers and it made it challenging for distribution to take place in more rural areas. i was at a location, a hospital, a medical center in rural michigan, and they kind of walked us through and showed us the process of how they were trying to make sure that other health care centers, other offices that were part of their orbit in even more rural areas had access to the pfizer vaccine. it was really, really challenging because the other smaller communities, they did not have these super subzero freezers and couldn't necessarily afford to get it.
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the fact that that's not needed with this vaccine is a really big deal, because it makes access easier on a much larger scale, not to mention just the simplicity of only needing to give and have one dose. th within weeks and also don't have to worry about making sure that they know which you had first, whether it was pfizer or moderna to make sure you get that exact dose again when you come back in a few weeks. so little things, but little things add up. when you think about access for the vaccine, it's not always easy for everyone in america to get to the doctor one time. a lot of people live far away from health care centers doing vaccines, and a lot of people don't necessarily have cars or easy access or can't afford to take off work to go get vaccinated. to only need to do that once and not have to do that twice within a month period, that is a really big deal and a game-changer for a lot of people.
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in new york, mayor bill deblasio talked about the idea of taking johnson & johnson vaccines door-to-door and doing at-home vaccinations for seniors who aren't able to leave their homes. that's not something that was as easily done with the prior vaccines. ali. >> ellison, thank you. good to see you as always. nice piece of history, that every time a new vaccine comes out, you and i get to tagovailoa about it. even with that glimmer of good news, roughly 2,000 americans continue to die every day from covid-19. more than 514,000 have died altogether. more than 28 million have been diagnosed with the disease. the economic hardship, with unemployment numbers remaining at staggeringly high levels. president biden's $1.9 trillion relief package is in the hands of the senate, having passed the
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democratically controlled house in the wii hours of the morning. yesterday the president addressed the urgency. >> now the bill moves to the united states senate where i hope it will receive quick action. we have no time to waste. if we act now, decisively, quickly and boldly, we can finally get ahead of this virus. we can finally get our economy moving again, and the people of this country have suffered far too much for too long. we need to relieve that suffering. >> notably, no republicans in the senate are expected to vote for biden's package, arguing it's too large and too expensive. i know i've said this ad nauseam. it's important to remember that the gop tax cuts for corporations and largely for the rich, a bill that was forced through during the former administration cost $400 billion, with a b, more than biden's rescue package for working americans. it's also important to remember because the gop has apparently completely forgotten that the failed former president, a
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member of their party, added a whopping $8 trillion, with a t, to the market debt. $8 trillion extra, $400 bigger bill to cut taxes. but $1400 to help americans who are finding it next to impossible to put food on the table in some cases is just a bridge too far for republicans. meanwhile, no cost appears to have been spared on a literal golden idol of dear donald erected at cpac. judging by the lack of mask wearing, probably covid-19 as well. as you can see, trump is present even when he's absent. the creator of the golden trump idol says it was made in mexico. maybe that's why ted cruz fled for mexico recently, he had to pick up the golden idol of his dear donald. today the failed former president trump is set to speak at the event, his first public remarks since he left office and fled to florida.
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those who know him best say the type of religious worship with which what he is being lavished is what he craves the most. >> so i remember when i went with donald to cpac. he had a great time there. he really enjoys the cheers of the crowd. now it's even more interesting because of the artist that produced that gold donald. now he actually thinks he's a god. he's like a pagan god that people are lining up down the hallway in order to take a photo with a stupid looking pagan idol of donald. first of all, not only does he need the adulation, the cheers and the screaming for him, he needs that the way you need oxygen to breathe. that's just the way that the man is. >> now, i said earlier that cpac is a petri dish of hate and stupidity. don't take my word for it. here is a small sample.
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>> on january 6th i objected during the electoral college certification. maybe you heard about it. >> these radical liberals, they want to erase our history, they want to replace it with their crazy marxist theories. >> i got to say, orlando is awesome! it's not as nice as cancun. bernie is wearing mittens and aoc is telling us she was murdered in the immortal words of william wallace, freedom! >> a bearded ted cruz screaming freedom fresh from his border hopping trip to mexico would actually be really funny if not for the fact that he helped instigate last month's insurrection. the fbi is focusing on a single assailant in the death of capitol police officer brian
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sicknick who died in defense of the united states capitol on january 6th. the assailant was reportedly seen on video, currently unreleased to the public, using bear spray to attack several officers including officer sicknick. investigators recently said they suspect sicknick was killed by a spray-type irritant such as bear spray that he inhaled during the riot. joining me is congressman jim clyburn of south carolina, chairman of the subcommittee on the coronavirus congress. good to see you again. there is a lot going on right now, but i think for most americans who are watching this morning, the biggest concern is about ending coronavirus and getting this coronavirus relief out there. you in the house have passed the bill $1.9 trillion. it is going to go before the senate. obviously some things are going to fall off of that bill. but what do you think is the likelihood of essentially getting that bill through the senate and getting money to the american people? >> first of all, thank you very
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much for having me. i think there's a very good chance of getting the bill through. i know it's a big number, but we have a big problem. i get a little irritated at people forever putting a price tag on life and livelihoods. what we're trying to do is rescue people of america, rescue an economy, rescue a country. what we have to do is make sure that we don't take any chances of short-circuiting that. that's why president biden has made it very clear, if we're going to make an error, let's err on it being too big rather than being too little. i think it's just about right for the beginning. this is just a rescue. we're going to come back hopefully around the state of the union and put in place what i think will be a program
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designed to stimulate the economy, put people back to work, put an infrastructure program in place so that roads and bridges that are in disrepair can get repaired, so that water and sewage that's needed will get done, so our ports and our rails will be ready for what we know will be a burgeoning economy toward the end of the year. >> that's a great point. interest rates continue to be low, infrastructure -- real infrastructure projects, not like the four false starts that the last administration had, could be really useful at a time like this when unemployment is high, interest rates are low and we can use the infrastructure bill. but we can't get simple matters done like the $15 raise to minimum wage over five years, over four years. what do you think is the likelihood of wages? you tweeted about the fact that we must raise the wage, but it doesn't look like it's going to make it into the senate bill.
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>> it may not make it into the senate bill, but i know this. let's set it up as an independent, stand-alone piece of legislation, and let's do it in such a way that the american people will get engaged in this process. $7.25 an hour for a family of four, that's poverty wages. we ought not be asking people to work 40 hours a week and still earn only poverty wages. we ought to do what's necessary to move people into a better place. i think we can do that. we'll put the bill out there. we'll make the case for it, get the american people engaged in it, and i think we'll get one or two republicans over on the senate side to vote for it. the big problem is getting 60 votes in order for it to get to the floor. that will be a problem, but i think we can get that done as
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well. we're going to do another bill, and maybe we'll have to do it with reconciliation in the next bill. but if that's true, i think we ought to offer rebates to small businesses. that will make it budget related. >> congressman, i don't know if you can see me. i can see you. i've got a light bulb in my hand, one of the frosted light bulbs, so you can't actually see what's in it. i thought about this because i saw, you tweeted something about lewis lattimer and his influence on the light bulbs. you see light bulbs and you remind us to think of a black man. lewis latimer. >> yes, i do that. i think that's an example of why we as a country need to recognize the work of each and every one of us irrespective of skin color. thomas edison was a great inventor. he did great work, but he could
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not get that light bulb to work. he never got it to work until he collaborated with lewis latimer, who was a son of former slaves. his parents had escaped from slavery and were living up in boston. thomas edison took his imperfect light bulb that he couldn't get to work, went up, visited with lewis latimer who invented a filament, a carbon filament, and the two of them have lit the world. that's part of black history that a lot of people don't know. that's just one of the many examples of what we could do with this great country of ours, if we can get beyond our comfort zones and be able to recognize the work of each and every human being, irrespective of gender, skin color and national origin. >> i can always count on you for a remarkable story about history, congressman.
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thank you for joining me. jim clyburn is the democratic congressman from south carolina, majority whip, chairman of the sub committee on the coronavirus crisis. as he always reminds us, a remarkable student of history. thank you for joining us this morning. >> thank you very much for having me. a quick programming note. my good friend med hi hasan is joining the weekend lineup. tonight, join him as he analyzes the news of the day, probing interviews and riveting one-on-one conversations. . then josh a wah johnson breaks down the week that was and looks to the week ahead. mehdi is going to join me on "velshi" in the next hour. back to the drawing board on the fight for 15 as we just discussed. it's going to be a tough one for democrats to pass. new polling shows they should
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that, have fun night with the family, buy new shoetion, buy flowers. >> that was terrence wise, an american employee explaining to the senate budget what he would do with $15 an hour. he wouldn't become an ill nair, wouldn't be able to invest or buy expensive things. he might be able to buy flowers for his wife, take his kids out to dinner, put money back in small business. if they get an increase in their wages, that is most likely to be spent in his community. unfortunately for millions of americans like terrence, it's back to square one in the fight for a livable minimum wage. the democrats in the house passed president biden's $1.9 trillion covid relief bill on saturday. it includes $1400 in direct payments to americans earning up to $75,000 a year and expands weekly federal unemployment benefits. a $15-an-hour minimum wage was attached to the bill through what is called budget reconciliation which is a fast-track process that allows
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the bill to sail through with a simple majority vote rather than the chamber's 60-the vote requirement. the bill now heads to the senate. the senate parliamentarian has ruled that the minimum wage cannot be attached to the relief bill because of strict rules surrounding the reconciliation process of passing a bill. it's time for plan b. one o of the ideaing floated by democratic senators is a payroll tax penalty on large companies that do not pay their workers a certain amount. whatever they land on, it's going to be an uphill battle for senate democrats to get $15 an hour minimum wage passed. but if polling is any indication, they shouldn't give up. a new survey from reuters finds that 59% of americans support raising minimum wage from $7.25 to $15 an hour by the end of 2025. this is what it would take. it's not going to happen this year. costco announced last week it would raise minimum wage for u.s. workers to $16 an hour. there are many misconceptions
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about minimum wage, who actually benefits from it. the economic policy institute lays it out like this, many people think we'd be bettering the lives of teenagers who work part time after school who want extra spending money. that's not the reality. the people who would benefit from $15 an hour are, on average, 35 years old, 59% are women, 28% of them have children, 54% of them work full time, and the majority are essential and frontline workers. the difference between $7.25 and $15 may not seem a lot to the millionaires making laws on capitol hill. for millions of americans, $15 means not having to choose between skipping a hot meal or a pack of diapers or baby formula. and #1 for eczema symptom relief* gold bond champion your skin tide pods ultra oxi one ups the cleaning power of liquid.
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johnson & johnson's covid vaccine for emergency use. this effectively gives the biden administration the green light to distribute 4 million doses of the vaccine across the country starting this week as it had planned. the approvals will means a single dose covid vaccine would finally be available for use and presumably over come a lot of the logistical problems with the moderna and pfizer vaccines. 14% of the american population has received at least one dose of those vaccines, over 47 million people. the biden administration is ramping up the vaccination effort. while that's all good news, people still have a lot of questions about the vaccines from how they work to when they can actually expect to see life return to normal. dr. ala stanford answered a few of your biggest questions yesterday. you've got even more questions. that's why dr. uche blackstock, emergency medicine physician and founder of advancing black
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equity joins us now. dr. blackstock, good to see you. i'll get get right into the questions we've got starting with will the johnson & johnson vaccine be distributed to different areas than the pfizer and moderna vaccines? >> right now the cdc is recommending that local and state health departments deliver the vaccines to the typical places. so federally qualified health centers, community vaccination centers as well as retail pharmacies. so it's typically going to be the usual places, but remember that states get to decide what to do with those vaccines and specifically and geographically where to put those vaccines. hopefully they'll put them in areas, for example, rural areas, or other areas that right now are being underserved. >> i'm hearing from people, doctors, who are saying while they're setting up vaccination centers in hard-hit areas or areas where people do not have great medical access, other
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people are taking advantage of those things. in other words, people from wealthy areas are going and lining up and getting vaccines in poorer areas, areas that are populated largely by people of color. >> absolutely. there was an issue recently, this past week in l.a. where community groups were given an access code to sign up for vaccines, and somehow these vaccine codes got out to individuals from outside of the community and they were registering to get the vaccines. i think we're going to see and we've seen logistically bumps in the roads with regards to access. we need to use these next two to three months before the vaccine is accessible to the public to work out these issues, to ensure that the people in the hardest-hit communities have access to these vaccines. >> another question for you, since the johnson & johnson vaccine is single dose, does it mean i could experience different or even more severe side effects? >> so that's a great question.
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we know after the second dose of moderna and pfizer vaccines, people are more likely to develop side effects, although that was the minority of people. however, with johnson & johnson, what the clinical trials have shown is that the side effects are very similar after the first dose of moderna and pfizer vaccine, some injection site pain, muscle aches, headache, but nothing significant. >> let me ask you about -- back to the pfizer and moderna two-dose vaccines. let's say i've gotten my first dose, but not my second. can i still contract covid? if so, what do i do if i get the virus between doses? >> great question. it's really important for the public to understand that they're not fully immunized until after -- two weeks after the second dose from moderna and pfizer vaccines. and in between, you definitely are not immune. you have partial immunity, and people can get infected even after the second dose within two weeks. so it's really important that
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people are still going to be careful, taking these preventive measures. if that happens, they're going to have to wait 90 days before they can get the next dose. >> another question i've got here, once i've gotten my vaccine, who can i see and what activities can i go back to doing? can i go to the gym, to the movies, et cetera? >> so that is the question of the day. things are not going to substantially change until we reach herd immunity. so that's with about 70% of the population being vaccinated and the virus has nowhere to go. for people who are vaccinated, they the return to doing certain things they used to do. we encourage small gatherings. we'd be able to do that with people who are vaccinated. i would encourage people to wear masks still if they're indoors, open the windows and doors and try to stay outside as much as possible. for the other riskier activities like indoor dining and gyms, i
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would probably encourage people to wait a little bit longer for that. >> dr. blackstock, great to see you. thank you for being with us. thank you for all the work that you do in spreading great information out there to helping people understand this important matter and dealing with equity in the way people get their medical treatment, their testing and their vaccines. dr. uche blackstock is an emergency medicine physician, yahoo news medical distributor and founder of advancing health equity. remember, now is the time to make a plan for your vaccine, even if you're not getting it any time soon. use your phone to scan the qr coat that's on your screen. it's so much fun. it will take you to an interactive style guide in which you can look at where your vaccine is available and you can figure out when you are likely to be eligible to receive the shot in your state. you can also visit planyourvaccine.com if you don't want to do that fun thing where you put your phone up to the screen. republicans are still pushing the big lie that the
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it's the same big lie that is now sparking an insidious attack from all corners of the country on every single american's right to vote. it can be hard to see the effect of this effort because it's happening simultaneously in dozens of different state legislatures all across the country. "the new york times" is pulling all the pieces together and the overall picture is stark. quote, republicans in state legislatures nationwide are mounting extraordinary efforts to change the rules of voting and representation and enhance their own political clout. at the top of those efforts is a slew of bills raising new barriers to casting votes, particularly the mail ballots that democrats flocked to in the 2020 election. other measures go well beyond that, including tweaking electoral college and judicial election rules for the benefit of republicans. the brennan center for justice has been tracking these bills. by their count, there are 253 bills in 43 states seeking to
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tighten voting rules, to make voting more difficult. the good news, there ares also 704 bills with provisions to expand voting access. take a look at some of the republican proposals that aim to target democratic voters in the swing states that joe biden won in 2020. in arizona, republicans have discussed a bill in which they are going to shorten -- allow the legislature to overturn presidential election results. they're going to reducerly voter rolls, shorten the early voting period, strip officials of the ability to move deadlines to ease voting access, and preemptively ban same-day voter registration. for good measures, by the way, they're going to try to get these things done. let's take a look at wisconsin. they are looking to curb the use of absentee ballot events, restrict who can cast absentee ballots and add additional voter
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id requirement. in georgia, republican lawmakers are looking to cut early voting on sunday, known as souls to the polls because churches get involved in the turnout effort. looking to end no-excuse absentee voting and end automatic voter registration at motor vehicle offices. these bills are not a coincidence. this is a rgt thatted nationwide effort to undermine voting rights in hopes of hurting democratic candidates. the very people pushing the big lie that the last election was rigged are themselves actively rigging the next election. joining me is erin hayes an msnbc contributor. good to see you this morning. there was somebody -- i don't follow the cpac conference closely as you can imagine, but there was a speaker who got up there yesterday and said i'm probably going to get booed off the stage for saying, but why don't we actually try to win elections rather than carry on with these myths that aren't.
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i think there are seven or nine panels about how the last election was stolen. what happened to conservatives or liberals for that matter, getting out there and winning in the arena of ideas? >> good morning, ali. it's good to be with you. as i've noted, i work in a newsroom named for the 19th amendment which was about expanding the access to the ballot for white women, but not for all women. we are in the midst of a continued fight for the expansion of our democracy and who gets to participate in our democracy. the points that you are raising in that setup are so important because this is a moment, not only for our democracy, but also for our media to tell the truth and call this out for what it is and what we're seeing, frankly, across the country in state legislatures is that there is a party that is looking to retaliate against the voters that they do not want participating in elections
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across the country. so very targeted efforts that you are seeing in direct response to the expanded -- the record turnout we saw among nine north voters, among women, other marginalized communities, participating in an election, not only in the midst of a pandemic, but standing up against a range of voter suppression efforts. talking ab not only what 21st century voter suppression looks look, but also what that's shaping up to be in the state legislatures across the country is important to talk about. there's also federal legislation that you have democrats in congress working to get through to push back against some of these efforts at the federal level, and it remains to be seen what the future of that is. certainly they are understanding a real sense of urgency to deal with these issues, seeing what they're seeing with this activity in these state legislatures. >> it is important for people who may not have studied voter
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suppression techniques in the united states preceding the civil rights era to probably do so now because you can see the roots of where these things are. the idea that at the margins, if you can just take small groups of people out of being able to vote at the margins, people who are ill, people would are low income, people who cannot get time off work effectively to stand in long lines, if you can create longer lines, we're repeating the exact mistakes of the past that led to the voter rights act, the civil rights movement. we're still back at old habits that started with reconstruction and the ku klux klan. >> that's exactly right, ali. you also raise another good point and that is that none of this ever happens in isolation. the fact this is happening in multiple places across the country, the fact that you have hundreds of bills that are effectively trying to do the same thing in multiple states, that is not a coincidence.
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it is very much something that is coordinated because you have a party that is seen across the country, certain voters who are taking advantage in some cases of voter strategies that republicans have long used without being penalized or with no backlash, and suddenly, when you have black and brown voters and other marginalized folks using those strategies, suddenly they are problematic. you brought up january 6th. we have a story on 19thnews.org right now that i encourage everyone to read. we have to tell the truth about what it is we're seeing. the january 6th insurrection was about more than just the claim of a rigged election. what it really was also about was an attempt to negate the votes of millions of black americans. that is what is really at the heart of the big lie. when we talk about the big lie and why it matters, it matters because 100 years ago the big lie was that women shouldn't have access to the franchise.
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100 years before that, it was that black people were not equal to other people in this country. so when a majority of americans -- when many americans are willing to believe the big lie, it really is harmful to our democracy because it means we're not living up to our highest ideals. >> today is the last day of black history month. you and i share a view it shouldn't be a month. tomorrow is women's history month. same story. we shouldn't be talking about women for a year. we should be doing it all year. you have a story on the 19th about the effect of women on the relief bill just passed in the house. i recommend that people read that. errin haines is the editor at large for the 19th. if you don't follow erri and the 19th, you should. ensuring human rights to all people and genders, yet bringing out the worst in some people.
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last week the house of representatives passed the equality act on a near party line vote, sending it to the senate where it faces an uncertain five future. its reintroduction has brought out the worst in the gop as some members used the bill to make a mockery of the lives of lgbtq+ americans. without basic human rights protections even i of those who, having been stripped of her committee assignments has seemingly nothing better to do than troll the process. she came out as one of the bill's most vocal opponents, falsely claiming the equality
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act would roll back protections for women. marine newman of illinois raised a transgender flag in front of her office in support of her trans daughter. green put up a sign outside her office that said, quote, there are two genders, male and female. trust the science. two jernds, . trust science. scientifically speaking there are more than two gender identities so besides being a transphobic bigot she's just wrong and making a joke about people's lives can lead to serious world consequences. according to the human rights campaign, 44 trans people were killed last year, a ma joerts of those trans women of color. greene's bigotry isn't just a sideshow, it fuels the hatred that endangers the lives of many frans people whose life expect ti hovers around 35 years of age. that is less than half that of the general population.
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we're also a country, by the way, that identifies as lgbtq plus more than ever before. a new poll found more than 5.6% of americans identify as lgbtq-plus. it shows more people feel coming out as acceptance is on the rise even while transphones and home phones plagues our country with their vitriol. my guest is host of the translash fellow. she is a transwoman of color. good to see you again. thanks for being with us. you made a point in an article last august in "time" that continues to stand with regardless what you think about transpeople, if you do not extend protections to them they are the worst among us. they have the hardest time, the greatest risk of violence against them, a life expect ti v
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expectancy of 35 years. if you can protect them, you can protect everyone. if you do not protect them, we can't have equality. >> that's exactly right. i think the fact that we still have a society in which we have certain people, an entire class of people who are excluded from basic human rights and basic protections underscores that the work of this country remains fundamentally undone. and the interesting thing about the trolling you mentioned from marjorie taylor greene and rachel green, who would be the first transperson to be in a senate position in the history of the country, they make the case through their actions and words that we need the equality act, that, as long as people can use their own discrimination as a basis to deny us equal access
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to housing, to education, to health care, to the full range of things that everyone else has, makes the case that we need the equality act. >> you talked about housing and employment. how does it manifest? are people able to say you can't rent my apartment that i have available because you're trans? are they able to not get a loan? are they able not to get a job or is it the way in which ip v it happens and there's no legal recourse for people who don't get that job or loan or that apartment? >> it's all the above. luckily, the supreme court ruling last june extend employment protections. but all of the other protections remain in this legal no-person's land right now depending on the state that you live in. and so, yes, the education department had a standing rule in the last administration that
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schools didn't have to protect transkids. that increases the likelihood of transpeople dropping out. that increases the likelihood of transpeople not having a job, not having housing, and increasing that. that's one example. in almost every area of life you can imagine, there is not universal protections and a guarantee of equal treatment for transpeople that is equally applied across the united states. it does not exist. that's why -- >> when you look at the civil rights act, for instance, you realize that it did not create equality across society. it created equality in particular places like public places, like government-funded programs and transportation. that's what the equality act is meaning to do. it's really just a starting point. it's nowhere near going to end up we quality for everyone. it's going to say that you cannot discrimination on the basis of sex, sexual orientation or gender identity in public
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places, transportation, and government-funded programs. >> the equality act is not the thing that will guarantee overall equality, but it is an essential stem in getting equality, just like saying that everyone is equal in the law is an important first step. there's a long way to go. the degree of marginalization, of violence, policy-wise and physical-wise against transpeople in particular, for all lgbtq people across this country is such we need all of the above. there is no area of life or area of law where we need to pick and choose. we need everything in order to be included fully just like everyone else. and the equality act is one of those things that's important. there are many others. >> imara, good to see you this morning. thanks for being with us. we have some breaking news out
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of myanmar. the united nations human rights office says 18 demonstrators have been killed as they protest the military coup. police violently cracked down on major anti-coup rallies. myanmar military police opened fire with tear gas, stun grenades and apparently live ammunition. today proves to be the deadliest day of the protest so far that started around february when the military first seized power from the leader aung san suu kyi. more on this as its develops. we're just getting started -- this sunday morning. coming up, mary trump, niece of the former president, weighs in on the cesspool that is the conservative political action conference and what it might take to see her uncle behind bars. i'll also talk with cedric richmond about covid relief, minimum wage, and more. and kate bedingfield and senator tim kaine join jonathan capehart.
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