the state of america. plus, he is back and he appears as delusional as ever. here to diagnose. also if the intell report on khashoggi's murder made you angry. think about how it made his fiance feel. that is next. do you remember what president jo e biden said at his inaugural address last month? >> we learned again that democracy is precious. it is fragile. at this hour, my friends, democracy has prevailed. >> it was rousing rhetoric, field goal, inspiring, but i start the show tonight by asking is it true? yes, joe biden made it through

the front door of the white house. yes the insurrection failed, but has democracy prevailed? the american democratic attack seems to continue to be attacked and stress testing. it is decided what is in the corridors of power. they voted to acquit a braisingly -- the senators respected 77 million votes fewer from the 57 senators. just last week the parliamentarian overruled the president. the senate majority leader, and the senate budget chair, and decided that the covid bill cannot include a $15 minimum

wage because of the rules of reconciliation. the only reason that democrats even went down this odd path is because of a filibuster. they were explicitly elected to enact. is this what democracy looks like to you? as for the house of representatives, as the "new york times" reports this weekend there are signs for an aggressive drive to further gerrymander districts. they could you redistricting alone to flip half of the seats needed to get control of the chamber without having to win a single extra vote. is this what democracy looks like to you? then there is the republican

party itself. it's downward spiral continues unabated. no lessons learned or contrition over january 6th and the big lie about election fraud. instead a doubling down. here is twice impeached former president donald trump speaking at cpac. >> actually as you know they just lost the white house, but it's one of those things. but who knows. who knows. i may even decide to beat them for a third time, okay? >> we'll talk more about trump and his lies later in the show with his northeast, the psychology mary trump, but the thing about his election lies is while they're not knew they have been used for a new wave of voter suppression laws. there was more than 250 bills under consideration in 43 states

that would restrict voting access. 250. in arizona, for example, republican state legislatures are trying to pass a bill to give themselves the power to choose the state's presidential electors regardless of how arizonans vote on voting day. is this what democracy looks like to you? this is a dangerous moment in modern american history. democracy is in crisis, under attack. and this show is committed to standing up for democracy which has far from prevailed. that's what we're about and will be about going forward every sunday night. people sometimes say that journalists should not be biassed. journalists should have a bias, a bias toward democracy. we should be proudly pro democracy and proud to call ourselves democrats, small d democrats. this week they will vote on

something even more important than climate change, covid relief, and gun control. it is free and fair elections. it is the for the people act. it expands access to voting, limit money in politics web and bring in independent commissions to draw up boundaries. the republicans plan to filibuster it in the senate. but don't let someone on the right gaslight you into thinking it is political to want to expand voting rights to making it easier to vote to protect the integrity of our democracy. one woman that entered congress two years ago has stood up to that gaslighting and has been outspoken. she needs no introduction, a household name that has become identifiable by her initials, aoc. my first guest here, representative alexandria

ocasio-cortez. thank you for joining us on this first show. >> good evening, thank you for having me, it's an honor. >> the house is going to vote on hr 1 this week which donald trump was attacking by name tonight. it will pass in the house and be filibustered and defeated in the senate. a pro-democracy bill can't pass because of an anti-democratic procedure in the senate. are you as worried as i am about the state of american democracy right now? >> yeah, i don't think that can really be under sold. it really can't be under stated how fragile of a situation we're in right now. and this attack on our democracy starts in the state legislatures as you mentioned. there is a very explicit attack on voter rights, particularly in states like georgia, arizona, and especially on black voters in addition to immigrant

communities, latino voters, asian-american voters, and so on. as you mentioned this is extremely cary. because we are in a census and once we get that data back every single u.s. congressional seat will potential i will be redrawn. and that redrawing of those boundaries creates a situation where politicians choose their voters instead of the other way around. >> which is not what democracy is supposed to be about. how does democracy survive one of the two parties in a two-party system have given up on democracy, truth, basic facts, a shared reality, and whole heartedly embraced

conspiries. >> the good news is that our democracy has been very deeply flawed from the beginning and even right now in it's current structure with the senate you have millions upon millions upon millions of represented by democrats in the senate but democrats and republicans pretty much are, you know, we're 50/50 in the senate. not only that but just like with the electoral college, the possibility of and frankly the reality of minority rule in the senate. it's inherently undemocratic. the electoral college is inherently undemocratic institution born ofur country was first being established. and so the good news is that there is a lot of room for improvement. but this will require a degree

of massive grass roots organizing that we have not yet seen. the good news is that that organizing is happen. we're seeing it happen at unprecedented levels. >> a lot of people have wanted to talk about climate change and democratic reform was never high up the list of issues but now finally people are saying if you don't get that you don't get anything else. one thing you did last year that other democrats were unwilling to do it you called donald trump a fascist. would you describe that to the wider republican party watching them at cpac this week? at some of the studies in

europe? seeing that it is closer to poland and hundred gary. would you extend that f-word to the wider republican party that we're seeing in front of us? >> i do think that tendency, and we certainly saw a lot of fascist sympathizing, but american white supremacy is very different and unique to just the kind of, you know, comparisons to fascism. white supremacy is is a power relationship. i would argue that that is a larger, you know, that more largely informs the current power structures and struggles with democracy that we currently have. i think that is a streak of

fascism. i think we have attachment of white sprem sis power centers and our governance that arrived from white supremacy and the owning of black human beings in the united states. there is a direct through line with that history to the electoral college. the establishment of the senate, and really the expansion of the franchise to the civil rights act of the 1960s. >> i'm so glad you're putting it in that context. and hitler himself, he would praise the american jim crow

laws. you spoke out, look at what happens on january the 6th if we want to seefacsism. you thought you were going do die. she said this about how she found you. >> i said i'm a mom, i'm calm, i have everything we need we could live for like a month here in this office, and she said i just open i get to be a mom and that i don't die today. >> congresswoman, i have to say that really got to me and millions of others as well. you went to katie porter's office to hide because you didn't feel safe in the secure room with your own republican house colleagues that you feel like could have given your location away and gotten you killed. >> i don't think that is by any means a stretch of the

imagination. we have limited details but we know members of congress are being included in the initial inquiries and investigations for who was part of this attack. who collaborated and potentially work with these insurrectionists. we know how violent their plans were, including speculation about trying to gas the under ground tunnels and basements. it is extraordinarily serious and not to mention the fact that there are members of congress that are extremely dangerous. they talked about and tried to sneak firearms on to the floor of the house. to the point where now every member of congress has to go through a metal detector to exercise our right and our community's right to vote on

issues for the laws of the land. the fact that we're even at that point because of explicit threats from other members of congress just goes to show that it is not an exaggeration to say that some are a threat to their colleagues. >> it also talks about watching across in a context. talking about the future of democracy, you will be 35, the minimum age required to run for president 23 days before 2024 election. have you considered running in 2024 or 2028. >> you know, i honestly have not. i was elected at 28 years old -- i won my primary at 28. and in that time i just have

been very much focused on trying to really do the best job possible and that is what has always been my focus and continues to be my focus. so i, you know, they say you know never confirm or deny these things, but i can say it has not been top of mind especially as of late. >> okay, you're using the right language there. when we come back in a few minutes i be speak to her about the covid relief bill and the fight over minimum wage. i will also speak to mary trump. plus, you'll only see it here. a world exclusive on camera interview with jamal khashoggi's fiance. her direct message for the crown prince. that is coming up next. prince that is coming up next

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president biden's $1.9 trillion covid relief bill passed in the house. two democrats joined them. the bill goes to the senate next. right now the minimum wage increased to $15 is in the bill but it is being blocked in the upper chamber. democrats want it to become law by march 5th that's when jobless benefits expire once again. congresswoman, a $1.9 trillion relief bill from the biden administration. they said the $15 minimum wage cannot be in the bill under the rules of budget reconciliation. your fellow house democrat is saying that democrats should just override the

parliamentarian. your own squad more is saying fire the parliamentarian. do you agree with either of them and if not what do you think needs to happen now to get that $15 minimum wage passed? >> i think we should override the senate parliamentarian. i think this is a matter of course and that our subsequents and people across this country put democrats in power to, among other things, establish a $15 minimum wage. we have a responsibility to do that. do i not believe that, you know, the parliamentarians ruling should be really an obstacle to that. and i don't believe that we should be really tied up about this. override the parliamentarians or eliminate the filibusters. that's the only two paths that we have to create substantive change in the united states and that's what people across the

country sent us here to do. we should have our number one priority to be on delivering and making good on the promises that we made and not allowing these procedural obstacles, that can be overriden, to get in our way. >> one of the big blocks is democratic senators that say $11 is enough for his state of west virginia. manchin attacked you and the squad in the past denouncing whats your crazy socialist agenda. but many of them spot you on the minimum wage and not him. what's your message to joe manchin tonight? listen, i think that if any, not just senator manchin but any person that thinks that a $15

minimum wage is a crazy socialist agenda is living in a distaupian nightmare. people are sleeping in their cars and they can't afford baby formula. they can't afford basic goods on $7.25. it is deeply shameful that we're having this conversation. when you take the minimum wage from several decades ago and you account for inflation and productivity gains today it should be $24. we need other democrats to understand how deep of a compromise $15 an hour is. and this bill has a multi-year phase in as well. even if we pass this to progressives discontent, by the way, we're talking about a multiyear phase in which will really chip away even more.

so $15 for, as you mentioned, his own constituents, it almost -- every pocket of this country you cannot afford rent if you're making minimum wage. and in the united states of america you should, you know, if you're working a full-time job you should be able to live. by the way when we keep a minimum wage artificially low it's at a huge cost to our government and taxpayers as well because there is enormous subsidies in the form of us paying for social safety net programs that would not be necessary if people were paid the living wage to begin with. >> so you're clearly spot on when it comes to the economic analysis, but what about the politics of it. what if people say if you prk him too much they will just

defect. well, you know, i do not believe that given manchin's long tenure in the senate that that is something he would personally do, but at the same time i think it is important to recognize that in states that republicans won, a $15 minimum wage has also passed or in state that's have elected democratics a $15 minimum wage for those that have run. look at florida where a wage provision outperformed nearly everyone on the ballot. so it's extremely important that we understand this is not a partisan issue. it is supported by many republican voters, by democrats, by people with no party affiliation. and when we have the discussions about partisan ship and bipartisanship, it should be

every day people that support this rather than individualing -- individuals in washington. >> so the left, progressives have long been critical of andrew cuomo. he has been accused of under counting thousands of covid deaths and he is being investigated by the if, bi and the u.s. attorney in brooklyn. at what point does it position become untenable? >> i have called for the full investigation into the nursing home crisis and for a full independent investigation and by that i mean an investigator appointed by the attorney from and not the governor's office. i think if the investigations bear out that you know, the details of these allegations, if they're true, as well as dib rate -- deliberate misconduct in

the nursing home numbers it could really call into the question the leadership that we currently have. i think this is not an easy conversation, and that's why we also look towards our state legislature leadership here in new york. and our assembly leader carl. >> just to be clear based on what we know now, you're calling on what that might discover, you're not ruling anything out or taking anything off of the table? >> no, i don't think that we rule anything out in either direction until we get the full facts of the situation. >> we'll have to leave it there. thank you so much for taking time out tonight. >> of course, thank you for

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what do you do if you're a political movement and your leader loses you the house, senate, and the white house? you invite him to be back your keynote speaker. donald trump reappeared after a self-imposed exile in mar-a-lago. it was a pretty sad andoser lie about losing in his speech. >> the ballots are pouring in from all over the country. tens of millions of ballots where are they coming from coming all over the place. where illegal aliens and dead

people are voting and many other horrible things are happening that are too voluminous to even mention. >> that of course was one of the many things that he said today that was utterly untrue, but lapped up by the crowd. joining me now is someone to ep us understand the consult of trump. mary is a psychologist, beneath of theformer president, and author of "too much." donald trump said today that he might run again in 2024. you don't think he will, why? >> it's not that i don't think he will. i think he will pretend to, for sure. think about how much money he made in the last few months. he made more since biden won the election than he has in his

entire life. i don't think he will late that go so soon. but you're right there is no way he will put himself in the position of losing again. but the republican party seems determined to continue to keep him legitimate. >> and if he doesn't run again do you think one of your cousins will run? that's what mark meadows suggests last week is that the next candidate will have a trump in their name. will it be don junior or ivanka. >> i said legitimate when i meant relevant. you know my hope is that u the legal props that he has swirling around will extend joutt ward.

they are unfit, but they have in the last four years taken advantage of their position to, you know, take money away from the american people. violating the emoluments clause. so the fact that it is even considered is less to do with them than how low the current republican party has sunk. >> let's talk about that, mary. you're not just a trump, you're a psychologist. let me ask about how the g.o.p. game this trump cult. the trump fame is who you became a cult around? >> yeah, it is pretty, i guess it should not be shocking any more, but it is pretty

demoralizing. i think this is a really project for decades now to take so much away from feel that really all they have left to make themselves feel better than is the color of their skin. we cannot under estimate the pull of white supremacy in this party and i'm not talking about the fringes, this is mainstream right now. i recently read something by the behavioral economist that says liberal democracy now exceeded many people's capacity to tolerate it. and a lot of people need unity and sameness. in cases like that people want to stick with what they know. they want to stick with what makes them feel better about

themselves. donald has always been very good at doing that. >> at one part of his speech trump attacked cancel culture, a new whipping boy of the right. and then a conference themed america uncanceled and he demanded the canceling of every republican that voted to impeach him. do none of the people there see the irony? >> no, i think hypocrisy and double standards are party platforms, as long as they hear what they want to hear, it doesn't matter. and as long as someone like dont donald is saying it, it doesn't matter. this is why the fact that republicans time after time refuse to take the often ramp away from him and decided it was better to keep him a relevant

player in this party is so troubling for all of us. >> how does it survive when you have two parties and one is not interested in democracy. the party of lincoln how could it become this party? >> the short answer is that it doesn't. the only way for them to survive is if the democratic party finally comes, reckons with what we're dealing with. the republican party is not interested in democracy. they're antidemocratic. they're willing to embrace tactics to hold power

illegitimately. democrats need to understand finally and definitively that there are no rules any more. they need to do whatever they can to protect their democracy which means getting rid of the filibuster and ignoring whatever the parliamentarian has to say and enacting economic policy that's are immediate benefit to the american people so they once again understand not only that the government works for them but the government is them. >> you're my second guest tonight that has said "override the parliamentarian" and i agree with both of you. >> next, a lot on my mind about political accountability and i'm ready to tell you about it. we're getting the timer ready for my 60 second rant. that is next. don't go anywhere.

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leader, he is a democratic leader, andrew cuomo and we should not be turning a blind eye because of the d next to his name. the fbi and the u.s. attorney are investigating how they handled covid data. the governor says everything was reported accurately, just delayed. as i said at the top of the show you can be republican, democratic, independent, whatever. but there is nothing more important than being a small d democrat. only one of our leaders are holding them to act to the same standard.jamal khashoggi's widow. don't go away. s widow. don't go away. hey, mercedes? how can i help you?

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back in 2018 i was in a green room with jamal khashoggi. we were joking about he is security because the crown prince was in town and he was a the saudi consulate in ins tanble while trying to seek a license to marry his fiancee. on friday the biden administration finally released an intelligence report confirming mbs was responsible for his murder. writing in part, the heinous crime against a permanent u.s. resident should not go unpunished. mbs ought to be banned from travel to the united states and subjected to an asset freeze. adding that president biden has chosen not to pursue that course suggests the fundamental change he promised in u.s.-saudi relations will not hold into account its reckless ruler.

earlier this week i had the opportunity to speak to jamal khashoggi's fiancee. i want to start by saying i'm so sorry for your loss and what you've been through. on friday we had this report out from the biden administration, this declassified intelligence report. what is your response to that report, which lays responsibility for the brutal murder of your fiance jamal khashoggi at the door of mohammed bin salman, mbs? >> thank you for having me. we were already waiting -- and the report it was was a huge relief i think for all of us. so to be honest i think this

report just confirmed what we have already known. if you remember the u.n. special reporter worked very hard two years ago for this report to come to release. and other u.s. senators also worked on it. so this report now is clear. the crown prince who ordered this killing, so we have the truth now. and now it is time to take action. >> yeah. so on that note about action what do you make of the white house's response? they have announced the

khashoggi ban which imposes visa restrictions on 76 saudi individuals believed to engage in threatening dissidents overseas. you tweeted a wonderful photo you took of jamal with the hashtag justice for jamal. what does justice for jamal look like? what do you want joe biden to do? >> i want to thank mr. president biden and his administration for releasing this report. i think it is a very important and huge step right now, but it is not enough. we don't take any action, it will be meaningless. so they should be held accountable. the report says it's very clear right now and he is -- ordered this killing.

so why they release this report without any action is my question to president biden. and i want to remind him and he always says the international human rights values and human rights and democracy and what it means in releasing this report in this time and without getting any action against this crime, against his murder. and we have already did report and the truth is really clear. and it is the right time to get any action. i think he should think about this right now. and i think it is not too late to get any action genz his murder. >> there is a lot of pressure on jebiden to put sanctions directly on mbs, which the white house has resisted doing.

jamal when he died was going into that consulate in istanbul to try to get the paperwork for you both to be married. you were trying to spend the rest of your lives together and mohammed bin salman took that away from you. if you could speak directly to mohammed bin salman, what would your message to him be? >> he has to know that he will never get away with it, and it will haunt him all his life. it is my message to him. >> we can only hope he has a conscience has allows him to be haunted his whole life. but as you say we need action. thank you so much for your time on what i know must be a difficult weekend for you. we appreciate it. coming up, you'll want to stay tuned for "the week" with joshua johnson starting at the top of the hour.

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eastern on "the choice" on nbc's streaming channel peacock. now i want to turn it over to my colleague joshua johnson. >> hello. fabulous interview with jamal khashoggi's fiancee. that's evidence of why we're glad to have you with us on sunday nights. congratulations. we hope to you have here for many more sunday nights to come. good evening. tomorrow the senate is poised to take up president biden's covid relief bill. the parliamentarian says a minimum wage increase cannot be in that bill because of senate rules. will democrats find a way to keep the increase in, or will republicans find a way to shrink the bill down? from nbc news world headquarters in new york, i'm joshua johnson. welcome to "the week." former president trump has changed very little since leaving the