that, into the referral to the ag's office. he also has a reputation as a political bully. often that can come back to haunt you. maybe while you had power people were willing to do what you wanted. but i'm not sure that is going to be the case here even while we are putting tough questions to democrats about what to do. >> it's a fair point. one final note on cuomo is he's in cycle. he is likely to face a challenge. he will face a challenge from the left the last two times. this is how we see how good a politician he is and what his skills are. >> hans nichols, thank you very much for being up with us this morning. we really appreciate it. this is going to be a conversation that we're going to be having over the course of the next week. and the reality is that when it

was republicans accused of these things, it was believe women. that consistency is very important. thank you for getting up "way too early" with us this monday morning. don't go anywhere. "morning joe" starts right now. >> i've got to say, orlando is awesome! it's not as nice as cancun. >> the radical left. the corporate allies, the liberal media have tried to cancel me, sensor me, shut me down, stop me from representing the people of missouri, stop me from representing you. and guess what, i'm here today. i'm not going anywhere. and i'm not backing down. >> for the first time ever cpac is not in our nation's capital. that's because they won't let us anywhere near the nation's capital. >> we won the election twice. think about it. the task for our movement and

our party is to stand up to this obstructive agenda with confident and resolve. . >> as we stand together and defend liberty, defend the staougsz, defend the bill of rights of every american in the immortal words of william wallace, freedom! >> oh, my god. what was that? we watched cpac so you don't have to. ugh. >> they obviously didn't have acting school at harvard or princeton. it's so funny. these anti-elitists as they like to call themselves. just in those opening clips, which were chosen, well, for the fact that you had two people who were seditionists there. one person that was talking about tearing down statues when of course his party destroyed,

tried to destroy the united states constitution. and tried to disrupt the peaceful transition of power. first you had ted cruz, mr. anti-elitist who went to princeton and harvard. then you had josh hawley, mr. anti-elitist who went to princeton -- or who went to yale and then stanford. and tom cotton, poor guy, he can't even get close to washington because they're tearing things up. 300 of your supporters in in jail now. tom cotton, harvard boy. and you have donald trump again, mr. populist, who not only went to an ivy league school but now lives at a country club. and ted cruz saying country club republicans.

no, you are in fact, your guy that you worship, that you kowtow to that insults your wife, insults your father's memory, and accused your father of being a murderer, you still worship him. even though he says your father killed jfk and he attacks your wife. you said the democrats are country club types. no. your guy not only lives at a country club, his own country club. >> at a town that doesn't want him there. >> i don't know because i went to the university of alabama, roll tide. and university of florida, go gators. they are elitist who look down their noses at working class

people. i don't know because i didn't go there. but i will say, you know, from a young age ivy league people they have all worked for me, they are all pretty good workers. roll tide. but they spent the weekend attacking country club types. >> i know. >> hello. trump. and attacking ivy league people. and this one guy comes out and literally says we don't want to talk ivy league people! and somebody told me he went to princeton and harvard. >> only one of the speakers. >> yeah, one of the speakers, right. they're all these ivy league types. and they're such elitists. take that down. that's enough. they get it. they're such elitists they think

their reporters are really, really stupid. i don't understand it because i went to alabama. roll tide. you start thinking you're smarter than everybody else and everybody else is dumb. i guess that's what you think, ted cruz, josh hawley, i know that's what you think, donald. so you spend all weekend attacking country club types. you're all ivy league elitists. you all passed tax cuts pore the richest people on the planet. you attack big tech. but you pass tax cuts that actually allow amazon to pay zero in taxes.

i mean, you lie so shamelessly. you're all ivy league brats. and you lie so shamelessly about being man of the people, ted cruz. really, princeton boy, harvard boy. you're against country clubs. are you? okay. donald trump lives in country clubs. how many days out of his presidency was he staying at his own country club? josh hawley, man of the people from missouri who went to yale and stanford. is now talking about poor me. i'm just -- i'm an outsider. they won't let me talk. please. please. this anti elitist stuff is so shameful. and you really do. i guess, mika, that's my takeaway from this weekend.

they really do, they really are ivy league elitists who think that their followers are too stupid to actually read up about them on wikipedia or too stupid to realize the tax cuts they passed under donald trump made every one of those big tech monday non myists oligarchs richer. my god, bezos, because of the tax cuts. that guy made, what $6 billion in one day last year. paid zero dollars in income taxes last year because of donald trump, ivy league boy. ted cruz, ivy league boy. josh hawley, ivy league boy. and who am i missing? all of them.

oh, of course, kennedy. doggone, that dog won't hunt. and you look at tape from 2004 and he's i went to oxford university and i am a democrat. and i will be voting for john kerry. we have wind saled together around nantucket. and i must say as far as the wind coming in eastward. come on, guys. at least take a couple of acting classes if you're going. at this point you're so shameless, your anti-intellectual stuff is so

shameless you humiliate yourselves. >> it kind of sums up everything. . >> aren't you glad you didn't have to watch this weekend. >> yeah. very sweaty. with us we have white house reporter for "the associated press", jonathan lemire, founder of the conservative website the bulwark, how the right lost its mind, charlie sykes. . >> hey, charlie, charlie, before we introduce everybody else, i'm going to cut you off. >> because i have two more. >> maybe you -- i don't know. maybe you went to an ivy league school too. i don't know. i went to alabama and proud of it. i've had people at ivy league schools that are good workers, they have been working for me since i was 23, 24. but there are these eliists talking about anti-elitists attacking ivy league schools. they went to princeton the,

harvard, yale, stanford. ted cruz cruz mocking him being a desserter, leaving -- a seditionist and desserter leaving his state while people are freezing to death. and that's a punch line of a joke at cpac. these people, i've got to say, i don't know how we were ever members of that party. i just don't know. i don't recognize it at all. >> okay. and you let that one thing. remember, ted cruz was staying at the freaking ritz-carlton. so man of the people. we are not the country club party. how many times can you point this out. donald trump lives in his own country club. it is as ridiculous as you could get. they are all playing. they're going through the role. you know what really struck me about cpac, this is all culture par, all the time, all trump,

all the time. all demagoguery, all the time. there are no ideas, no policy. they are unrelenting, unrepentant. we have 500,000 dead americans and out from the attack on the capitol and you would never know that ever happened. it is like here are the people you should hate. here are the people you should blame. by the way, joe, your point, over the weekend i kept saying to myself, how was i ever in the room with these people? how did i ever -- was i ever aligned with them. why did i think i ever shared values with these people. you see them up on the page strutting around and playing and there's no principle. there's no consistency. there's no policy. and they're living in an

alternative universe. you would think there would be a moment we would say, hey, maybe we ought to rethink, have intro expect about the sedition, white supremacy, we failed to protect half a million americans from dying. none of that. no reset. no looking in the mirror except, yes, ted cruz, man of the people, freaking ritz-carlton. we are not the country club party. and then of course they bring in the orange god king with their orange idol who lives in a country club. i heard it described as the insurrection after party. i thought it was a good description. they are so invested in denial, in dilution, that they have that event a couple of on months after the attack on the capitol. i'm sorry. you got me going too early in the morning here. >> no.

mika, it is. here we are less than two months after an insurrection against the united states of america, and they are giving a standing ovation and worshipping a guy who led the insurrection, who was begged by kevin mccarthy to call off his terrorists, and he refused to do it. in fact, got very angry at kevin mccarthy and said, well, i guess they're more upset about me losing the election more than you are. . >> we have with us mara gay and national political correspondent for the "washington post", dave weigel. >> now, dave did go to cpac. i saw interesting theories about who really is president right now. and something about the pope. how big was the qanon presence this weekend? . >> it was fairly limited, right. but the degrees we're talking about are that qanon conspiracy

theorists were kept out of there. i saw one activist pretty well-known, the guy people think is jfk junior. i saw him inside one day. and people reporting he was not allowed in the next day. the conference was pretty good at policing real fringe stuff. there was a big rally outside. i'm not sure how much coverage it the go. there was a rally of a hundred or so people. the leader of the proud boys, qanon, and conspiracy theorists. there was more sanitization in the building. the election was probably stolen was the premise, whatever on january 6th wasn't our fault. those were two themes. i think there was maybe two people who challenged that premise. it was either not discussed or shared on stage. this is the theme of the weekend. they were concerned about streaming services who had to

cutaway from interviews or panels. in the real world where lawyers are watching for people who spread misinformation about election companies or say the election was stolen, there are consequences for lying about this. if you're the former president, i should say, repeatedly saying that you won the a election, you will win a again in 2024. the consequences have been meted out on him. the premise and you heard this reflected in the audience was that, well, something happened. donald trump is not president anymore but he surely didn't lose the election. >> there we go. it is hard to believe this is what we had for four years.

the democrats don't have mitt romney, little ben sasse, richard pwur, bill cassidy, susan collins, lisa murkowski, pat tpaoply. the warmonger, a person that loves seeing our troops fighting, liz cheney. in her state, she's been censured and in her state her poll numbers have dropped faster than any human being i have ever seen. hopeful live they will get rid of her with the next election. get rid of them all.

>> i want you to know that i am going to continue to fight right by your side. we will do what we have done from the beginning. the republican party will unite and be stronger than ever before. i am not starting a new party. that was fake news. . >> we all knew the biden administration was going to be bad. but none of us even imagined just how bad they were be and how far left they would go. joe biden has had the most disastrous first month in president in modern history. that's true. in just one short month we have -- >> let's just turn him off. i can't. blah, blah, blah. blah, blah, blah. i can't. i can't listen to it. >> it really is hard.

>> that was painful. that was a long four years. >> he's talking about we've got the republican party. well, this was the most hard-core of the most hard-core. we have the republican party. self-selected trumpers and still only got 50%. barack obama could run another term and they had a straw poll at a pac, barack obama would get 90%, 95%. for donald trump to be sitting at 55%, i'm not so sure -- in fact, i know, those numbers are much lower than he and everybody else was expecting. >> that's true.

but it's hard to miss the fact that trumpism has won. it's amazing as a woman watching that footage. it is like a festival of toxic masculinity. after everything, donald trump gets up and starts talking about, gleefully talking about, bragging about how he owns the republican party. and so all those men that got up there before him i assume, i assume he was one of their key note speakers, were essentially bragging about how they got owned by donald trump. on top of everything you have to wonder. these people call themselves leaders. it is really the most cowardly form of political leadership.

we can't even bother to tell his supporters the truth. >> and if you look also at all the attacks that were being launched against joe biden, we showed the polls last week. this is the hill. joe biden at 59%. a pew research poll had him at 29%. disapproval at 68%. he's probably up in the 30s now, high 30s. rasmussen has him at 90%. we'll have to look more closely at that. it seems an extraordinarily irrelevant occurrence. obviously we have a guy that

tried to against the united states. benedict arnold had been invited to cpac after he switched sides, we would probably be running a two-hour rant as well. >> jonathan lemire, what did you take from it? . >> first of all, joe, the first part of it was low energy. they were some were breathing sighs of relief. they thought he wasn't going to go scorched earth. you made the point this is the most trump crowd you can imagine and he pulled only half of that

straw poll. right now he is still shaping the present and future of the republican party. he made no mention whatsoever of the events of january 6th. but repeated time and again the big lie. the idea of course that he won, falsely claiming that he won that election. that will make it difficult for republicans to ever turn the page. . >> also, jonathan, the speech and how -- >> sure. they of course has been studiously trying to ignore all things donald trump in the last few weeks. in fact, the current president, joe biden, is not even uttering donald trump's name when he can help him. he refers to him as the former phi. they paid no attention to the impeachment trial.

they weren't concerned about what he was going to say. joe biden spent the weekend in delaware. of course they are mindful simply of where trump could take the republican party. could efforts at bipartisanship have stalled. is it going to be that much harder if trump tries to step back onto the stage in a visible wage as much as they will try to engage. . >> yeah. finally, how -- what are they going to do this week, what do you expect it will be the over the next week? >> they don't want to talk about donald trump. they want to talk about the covid relief bill. march 14th is the deadline to get this done when a lot of the benefits expire. the clock is ticking there. it passed the house.

schumer is convinced he can get this bill on biden's desk in two weeks. and the vaccines. good news with the johnson & johnson approval, that will be the white house messaging. they feel quietly confident within the next six weeks, two months, they will have a surplus of vaccines. there will be more doses of the vaccine than people ready to take them. there is still a distribution issue to be sure. but they feel this is a key moment they can start to turn the corner on the pandemic. . >> fantastic. dave weigel, other than adoration for a guy who tried to overthrow the united states deposit or at least committed insurrection of the united states deposit, a few things broke through. you had the attack on high-tech, which donald trump slammed home last night. josh hawley and others have been

talking about all weekend. section 230. attacks on china. he would be talking about what a wonderful cake they served, president xi, how they were cooperating with the united states. it was a real anti-china attack from most of the speakers at the cpac. and joe biden's immigration policies, open border approach to that. >> i would add criticism of transgender rights. remember four years it was it

was refusing the bathroom to the gender they identify with. he brought it up in his speech, which is fairly new for him. there's a reason they are not winning the latino vote. they are saying this money can't be used for undocumented immigrants. there was messaging that rick scott used, kevin mccarthy used, democrats are opening the borders and closing schools. and things like that. running immigration, nationalism, through every issue is something that trump changed

in the republican party. no one was contesting that at cpac. you mentioned the polling there. i would add part of the poll is do you want to follow donald trump's agenda. 95% said yes. and do you approve of what donald trump did in office? it rose to 97%. beyond losing the presidency, halting green cards, refugees, things of that nature. if you have gone to cpac six years ago, half the speakers would have been a different position and no longer. >> no longer. the "washington post" dave weigel, thank you for your reporting. >> still ahead on "morning joe", one of the republicans that got

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first, cpac is not the view of the entire republican party. that's one. two, political organizations and campaigns are about winning. the last four years we lost the house of representatives, the senate and the presidency. that has not happened in a single four years since herbert hoover. if we plan to win in 2022 and 2024, we have to listen to the

voters. we had economic policies we're working. if that's the case, and we can speak to those policies and those families, then we'll win. but if we idolize one person, we will lose. and that's kind of clear from the last election. i don't think he will be our nominee for the republicans i've said. we have lost the house, the senate and the presidency. political campaigns are about winning. our agenda does not move forward unless we win. we need a candidate that cannot only win himself or herself but we also have to have someone who lifts all votes. . >> that is republican senator bill cassidy of louisiana. and, charlie sykes, he was sounding rational. >> yeah. >> and felt very disconcerting. it does remind you there were seven republican senators that actually voted to convict, which, again, that doesn't sound like a lot unless you've

actually served in the senate or in the house and understand that usually nobody breaks away. so the question is, is there a schism in the republican party and where are people like mitt romney going to end up? >> it is great that cassidy has not buckled. the party has once again surrendered to donald trump. it is really amazing when you think about it that it was just a few weeks ago that the united states senate held a trial about whether he should be removed from any power and seven voted

against him. the republican civil war lasted two weeks, three weeks. the moment that mitch mcconnell said, yes, absolutely. here's air guy morally responsible for an attack on the capitol, somebody who lied about the election, supported and encouraged sedition. but absolutely i will vote for him. he's the nominee in 2024. you realize the republican civil war may going on, but it's over. it's been lost. this party is completely trumpified. the party is held hostage by donald trump but they have done it voluntarily. you probably saw nikki haley's comments. he's done. we can't make this mistake again. and she's out immediately, what a great speech, donald trump. nikki haley is one of these republicans who cannot choose a lane. they can't stick on it.

good on bill cassidy continuing to press this. but the reality is that he and mitt romney, ben sasse, adam kinzinger are a small minority in the republican party. >> a piece criticized donald trump, said it was time to move on. mild criticism. then asked if she could meet with donald trump the way kevin mccarthy did and said he was responsible for the insurrection. and trump would not meet with nikki haley. now she's trying to get back into his good graces. it is bizarre. the whole thing has been bizarre. i understand even though i was repelled by it. people kowtowing to him when he was the president of the united states. i thought it was grotesque. at the same time, they want stuff for their district, they

want to be close to power. but here's a guy who lost the house, lost the senate, lost the white house, has been impeached twice, led an insurrection against the united states of america, refused to guarantee a peaceful transfer of power, botched -- 500,000 people dead. historians will blame him for a good percentage of that number. and they are still all bowing and scraping to him. i must say, i don't get it. >> it's remarkable. it's really lazy politics too. i think we have spent four years plus at this point kind of reading the tea leaves, watching every move that some of these republicans made hoping if we lower the bar nearly to the floor they might meet that

standard to stand up for democracy over trump and trumpism, and they have still failed. so it really does make me wonder if those who love democracy, love this country, democrats and republicans, if maybe the battle is best won at this point just in taking it to the american people directly. talk to voters in these districts. explain to them or understand what they want beyond trumpism. they probably care about minimum wage. in nonsense is unfolding when americans are out of work, they're sick, they're dying, and they're out of work. so i actually think there are parts of not just the democratic agenda but certainly a more moderate republican agenda that would appeal to large numbers of americans within donald trump's base. how do you reach the voters directly? it's time to make the case to the american people directly. i've completely lost faith in

that we're going to be saved as a society or a country by the courage of these individuals. look at them. they're without shame. >> yeah. >> so i think that road is really over at this point. >> with ivy league degree, without shame. for those republicans that were on the stage. i love that mara just said. and it actually echoes -- i was talking to somebody who used to be very involved in republican politics. worked for republicans, held presidential campaigns. and said to me something along the lines of what mara just said. they're so lazy. nobody wants to do the work. nobody wants to go to their districts and explain to their districts why they're voting the way they are, why they're opposing donald trump's insurrection against the united states of america.

why they might support a minimum wage hike. that's really the best way to put it. they're just phoning it in. and nobody has the courage or conviction to do what's right. and then to go hold townhall meetings approximate keep telling their constituents why they did what they did and why it was the right thing to do. that actually works. but i think mara is right. right now they are just engaging in lazy politics. lowest common denominator politics. for them right now, it means bowing and scraping to donald trump. >> thank you both for being on this morning. with he turn now to the continued investigation into the january 6th attack at the capitol. the justice department has announced on friday that it has charged more than 300 people

with crimes related to the attack, at least 280 of whom have been arrested. acting deputy attorney general said the investigation into those responsible is moving at a speed and scale that is unprecedented and rightly so. those responsibility must be held to account, and they will be. his comments came one day after acting capitol police chief pittman told lawmakers there are indications trump supporters want to attack the capitol again during president joe biden's first address to congress, which is expected later this month. nbc news reports justice department officials say they have expanded the number of lawyers and investigators devoted to the case of domestic terrorism. we will continue to follow this. and now to the latest surrounding new york governor

andrew cuomo. yesterday he admitted that some of his behavior with women, quote, may have been insensitive after a second former aide spoke out against him. in a statement the governor said in part, quote, i now understand that my interactions may have been insensitive or too personal and that some of my comments, given my position, made others feel in ways i never intended. i acknowledge some of the things i have said have been misinterpreted as unwanted flirtation to the extent anyone felt that way, i am truly sorry about that. cuomo said he would cooperate with a sexual harassment probe led by the state attorney general, letitia james. this comes after receiving criticism for his initial decision to have a federal judge he appointed handle the investigation. former aide, 25-year-old charlotte bennett told the "new york times", i understood the

governor wanted to sleep with me and felt horribly uncomfortable and scared. he denied the claims and said he believed he had been acting as a mentor and never made advances toward ms. bennett, nor did i ever intend to act in in any way that was inappropriate. lindsey boylan came forward with claims of a forced kiss. here is press secretary jen psaki yesterday >> president biden has been consistent that he believes that every woman should be heard, should be treated with respect and dignity. charlotte should be treated with respect and dignity. and so should lindsey. there should be independent review looking into these allegations. that is something he supports and we believe should move

forward. . >> both of new york's u.s. senators, majority leader chuck schumer, and senator kirsten gillibrand, jerry nadler, and alexandria ocasio-cortez all signaled they would like to see the matter referred to letitia james. this all comes as cuomo continues to grapple with the political fallout over his handling of the state's nursing home during the pandemic which is facing a federal investigation. coming up, the u.s. officially points the finger at crown prince mohammed bin salman for the killing of reporter jamal khashoggi. pro-democracy protesters met with deadly force while demonstrating against the military coup in myanmar. richard haass joins us next on "morning joe". richard haass joins us next on

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leaders of foreign governments where we have diplomatic relations and where we don't have diplomatic relations. we believe there are ways to make sure this doesn't happen again and leave radio many to work with the saudis on areas where there is mutual agreement, nationalists for the united states. that is what diplomacy looks like. that is what complicated global engagement looks like. we have made no secret and made clear we are going to hold them accountable on the global stage. >> jen -- >> the white house is defending its decision to not punish saudi crown prince mohammed bin salman after a report linked the crown prince to the murder of

journalist jamal khashoggi. according to the "new york times", a con senn tuesday developed inside the white house that the cost of that breach in saudi cooperation on counterterrorism and in confronting iran was simply too high. as far as the report goes, the newly declassified document strikes the prince of having absolute control over the kingdom's intelligence organizations and said it would have been highly unlikely for an operation like the killing of khashoggi to be carried out without his approval. as a candidate, biden pledged to make saudi arabia a pariah over that killing. the washington host publisher and ceo fred ryan released a statement reading in part, quote, the report has brought the facts to light. now, the men who authorized this brutal murder must be held fully accountable for it.

more than two years has gone by since jamal's unthinkable death. it is time the united states and freedom-loving nations around the warren sure there is justice for jamal. >> let's bring in richard haass. richard, let's talk about competing interests here. first, the united states obviously as always seeing saudi arabia as an ally. more materially than even economically now. so tough decisions to make, obviously. we're going to continue dealing with china despite hong kong, despite concentration camps in china. despite statin gauged with china and bush stayed engaged with china after tiananmen square. in this case, though, you have a killing that is of a virginia

resident, "washington post" columnist and something so egregious that it is hard to turn our heads away from. talk about the balancing act that the biden administration and the trump administration before it went through. . >> joe, you're exactly right. it applies to putin. he tried to poison to death his principal political rival after what he did in the ukraine. this is a balancing act. it split the foreign policy establishment. some say we should have nothing to do with mohammed bin salman. he is quite popular at home. saudi arabia still matters in the energy space, it matters in terms of counterterrorism. it matters obviously in terms of pressing iran. we want to get them out of

yemen. we want to bring out a normalization of relations with israel. so the question is how do you express your moral and every other form of distaste, horror. because this clearly happened only because this guy approved it. at the same time we have a foreign policy to conduct. my guess is the way the biden administration will come out, the president will meet with him. ease not going to get invited to the united states much less the oval office. but the united states will find ways to continue to work with saudi arabia. this is riyadh politique. . >> they maintained close ties with him, jared kushner especially. how much has this biden administration moved away from the trump administration and did they strike a balance. >> the holding up of the major arms sales.

the united states is no longer going to facilitate. that's a big deal. you won't have the interaction with jared kushner and salman. other issues on iran, hopes of getting the saudis to normalize with israel, doing things that would hold open the possibility of a two-state solution with the palestinians. i think the administration will continue to work. so there i think they have essentially got it right, the pwaoegz. -- biden administration. it is awkward. people i respect have taken the other side of the conversation. but i do think this is the only sustainable policy. we can tilt against this. the united states can refuse to have anything to do with mohammed bin salman. but we cannot prevent him from ascenting to the crown.

he is likely to ride for decades. the real question is over that time can we move the saudis in desirable directions, maybe even using this as leverage. and i say we should try. >> jonathan lemire as a question for you. jonathan. >> richard, i actually have two. let's skip elsewhere around the globe and hit briefly on two different other countries. president biden is meeting virtually with the president of mexico. immigration will be top line on that discussion. can you give us your sense of what you anticipate could come from that meeting. and myanmar. we saw more violence in recent days. the u.s. strongly condemned what has happened with the demonstrators being killed. what more could the u.s. be doing there. how does this biden administration navigate what is obviously a tricky situation in asia? . >> with myanmar, it's tough. we have had asset freezes and

the like of leaders of this military coup. we don't have a relationship. companies like china are willing to step in. i think this is going to work out locally. right now the military faces are mowing down peaceful protesters. the real question is whether that dynamic changes. obviously, there's not a lot we can do. with mexico, you have this nationalist populist president. obrador. he is pressuring us by allowing people to come to the border. can we establish a foundation on this relationship? one possibility is through vaccines. as the united states reaches a point rather quickly where we're going to have potentially an excess of vaccines, whether we can reach a deal that we helped mexico stabilize its economy in return we get resumed cooperation on the border. >> all right. richard haass, thank you so much for coming on this morning.

>> i'm sorry. i want to continue this segment. alex said we have to go to break. but you brought up something so important that americans need to start recognizing and our leaders in congress need to start recognizing. you talked about china. whatever we do,s china can counteract. that takes me back to the discussion whether you're talking about saudi arabia, the uae, whether you're talking about a lot of our traditional allies in the middle east. it's just like the with uae a month or so ago. if we hadn't sold them weapons, they would have bought them from china. we had the same thing now with saudi arabia. yes, we can shut down saudi arabia or we can be as aggressive as we want to. and feel good about that. and maybe that's the right thing for us to do.

but we are in a position we haven't been in since the cold war. where if we turn our back on an ally who becomes a former ally, they don't just sit in the corner and wait for the united states to come back. they immediately turn to china. that is a dynamic we really haven't experienced since the cold war ended, is it? >> no, you're spot-on. a piece was written called the unipolar moment, after the end of the cold war. that might have been a moment but it's long since gone. even though our absolute power, our strength has gone larger, our relative position has deteriorated. because of the rise of china and others. our ability to dominate, our ability to insist is increasingly diminished. and others can step in. this is a world of increasingly distributed power. and the united states has to

adjust its foreign policy to take this into account. . >> all right. richard, thank you very, very much. it is just about the taop of the -- top of the hour now. we'll start with the news. the cdc voted yesterday to recommend the johnson & johnson coronavirus vaccine for widespread use. this is the final khaoerpbs for clearance for the single dose vaccine after the fda authorized it for emergency use saturday. local public health 30s will use fda and cdc filed answer as they administer the first 4 million doses. the first shipment of shots will go out this morning. johnson & johnson expects to ship 100 million doses by mid-2021, enough to vaccinate nearly a third of all americans. dr. anthony fauci threw his support behind the new johnson &

johnson vaccine on "meet the press" yesterday. take a look. . >> you now have three highly efficacious vaccines for sure. there's no doubt about that. and particularly the recent results from j&j. all three of them are really quite good. and people should take the one that's most available to them. i think people need to get vaccinated as quickly and expeditiously as possible. if i were to go to a place where they have j&j, i would have no hesitancy to take it. . >> the house voted to pass joe biden's $1.9 trillion covid-19 relief package over the weekend. the saturday morning vote was split largely along partisan lines at 219-212. it includes money for coronavirus vaccinations and testing. $1,400 direct payments, and a $400 a week federal unemployment bonus. the bill now goes to the senate

where a provision to raise the men mum wage is likely to be removed. he urged the senate to move quickly to pass the bill. . >> we have no time to waste. if we act now decisively, quickly and boldly, we can finally get ahead of this virus. we can finally get our economy moving again. and the people of this country suffered far too much for far too long. we need to relief leave that suffering. >> we have host of "way too early", kasie hunt. professor at princeton university, eddie glaude jr. and columnist at "usa today" and contributing writer at the atlantic tom nichols. and ap's jonathan lemire is still with us as well. . >> kasie, we move from the house to the senate on joe biden's $1.9 trillion covid relief bill.

republicans not so much supporting this bill despite the fact at least among the public it has bipartisan support. some polls have three out of four americans supporting the bill. it seems to be an extremely popular measure. are some republicans going to figure out how to get on board of a covid relief bill that 75% of americans support? . >> joe, that's the question. it does not seem so right now. it was universally opposed by republicans in the house of representatives. and as majority leader in the senate, chuck schumer, seems very concerned about making sure he has all 50 democrats. i don't think they are expecting to get any help from republicans. it does seem like democrats have the votes right now. it is a little bit tenuous. they really don't want anything to change dramatically in the bill to keep that together. but, look, i think the point you

raise is the right one. this white house, this is how joe biden ran his campaign. he looked around and he said, there are democrats, people in this country who want what i'm selling, who want someone focused on them, who is middle of the road, who is not listening to what's happening on twitter quite as closely as some other people. and there was a lot of doubt about that campaign strategy. but in the end it won the day. and they are looking at these numbers and saying people want this. republican governors want this. republican-republican cities and towns want this. they need this money. there is this populist streak especially with income disparities becoming wider and difficult to overcome in this pandemic. people who are well off, are fine. people who are able to work from home are fine. people who are struggling, who can't go to work at stores, putting their health on the line to go to work at stores are really struggling. they're looking at all of this

and saying this is going to be popular no matter what republicans on capitol hill think about it. it's confusing that republicans in congress aren't grasping the reality out there. >> i spent this weekend talking to republican friends that i worked with on capitol hill. and we were just talking about cpac. i said, man, i don't get it. i don't get it. here's an example, though, something i didn't bring up with my friends yesterday i said i don't understand either. if you are saying lisa murkowski, or susan collins. like, aren't you going to want to support a $1,400 check to your constituents as covid relief? it's extraordinarily popular. if they move forward with a $15

minimum wage hike, which they probably won't. say they decide to do that as a stand-alone bill. they are popular even, like, in the state of florida. the state of florida passed a constitutional amendment that would hike the minimum wage up to $15 over time. these are two extremely popular pieces of legislation. say tom cotton and others, josh hawley, who are trying to pretend they're populists. this is the sort of legislation you think they would embrace. >> he did embrace the $2,000 checks. david perdue and kelly loeffler

needed that to try to win the two races. obviously, they lost. being the opposition party in washington, mitch mcconnell's job is incredible hard because of what you spent the first hour talking about, josh hawley, ted cruz who want to run for president. this was a strategy he think worked when obama was president. there's evidence republicans took back the house the first couple years. eventually they won back the senate. obama started out with basically 60 votes in the senate and steadily lost ground throughout his presidency. i think that's the playbook they are starting to run here. the thing is i'm not sure it's going to work the' same way with joe biden'. it'''' ties into cpac, too.

it was clear and dave weigel reported this. joe biden is simply not the scary figure that animates the fears in the hearts -- ofu republican voters. that's what i'm wondering in terms of this package. it is the policies they are telling politicians they want. joe biden's name is on it. i don't know if it's going to work in their favor. >> kasie, i think you're right. it's a miscalculation or anybody to think that the playbook that worked against barack obama is going to work against joe biden. >> especially hillary clinton. >> or hillary clinton as well. >> perhaps that is because of race. perhaps when barack obama came to the white house, yes, he was

black. he was also, the second most liberal senator in the united states senate. we were talking about this massive relief bill. and here you have joe biden, this guy that had a teflon effect on him for most of the campaign. it drove donald trump crazy for over a year. he couldn't figure out how to land a punch on joe biden that would stick. so i think republicans, again, a guy that was actually attacked for a good part of his senate career because he was too close to banks, credit card companies. do you think joe biden will be painted as a left wing socialist. they need to look at the past year. that didn't work then. it will not work the next couple of years. i'll say it again. not voting for a package that

three out of four republicans support. republicans can talk about debt and deficit. they didn't do it the last four years. the last 20 years. >> why start now? . >> their voters aren't going to care. at the end of the day, 76% of americans support this package. put that last one back up again. 76% of americans support this stimulus package. please keep that up there. this is 2021. it's not 2009. and i know that republicans have gone politically fat off of opposing things politically, off just opposing things the past 11 years, opposing obamacare despite the fact that over 11 years they have never put forward a union need health care

plan of their own the republican party can get behind. you look at these numbers and you understand this republican party is making a miscalculation by trying to project the same playbook on joe biden as they did against barack obama. joe biden is a creature of washington, d.c. joe biden has been in washington, d.c. since the, what '72, '74? >> decades. >> a long time. barack obama came in on a friday and was running for president on monday. so what worked for the last democratic president is not going to work for this democratic president. and i do think that some republicans need to figure out a way to get from where they are to supporting this bill. because it is extremely popular. not just with democrats but also with independents.

yes, even with republicans. . >> while all that was happening on capitol hill, this is what was happening in orlando, florida. >> i got to say, orlando is awesome! [ applause ]. >> it's not as nice as cancun. the radical left, their corporate allies, the liberal media, have tried to cancel me, censor me, expel me, shut me down, stop me from representing the people of missouri, stop me from representing you, and guess what, i'm here today, i'm not going anywhere. and i'm not backing down. >> for the first time ever cpac is not in our nation's capitol. that's because they won't let us near the nation's capitol. >> we won the election twice. i mean, you know, think bit. about it. our party is to stand up to this

obstructive agenda with confidence and resole. . >> as we stand together and defend liberty, defend the constitution, defend the bill of rights of every american in the immortal words of william wallace, freedom! >> listen, i'm going to start a go fund me account later for ted cruz's acting lessons. and we'll start one for hawley. poor little yale boy. so censored. so terrible how weak the united states -- oh. anyway. and tom cotton saying i guess we have to tear down statues to get anywhere close to washington. no, tom, that's actually what your president that you still support, that's what he did.

he led an insurrection, inspired an insurrection that led to police officers getting beaten by american flags. it's your party actually. it was your movement, tom, that actually led to law enforcement officers getting their heads jammed inside of doors and crushed and almost killed. tom, it wasn't democrats. it wasn't black lives matter. it was your party. it was your political movement that led to police officers being on the ground being beaten, nearly to death. telling people later they knew they were going to die as trump supporters gathered around them and almost beat the life out of them and they lay there

wondering what their four daughters were going to do, how they were going to survive. no, tom, it was your party that spread ex decrement, human ex decrement on the walls of the united states capitol. it was 300 of your supporters, donald trump supporters right now that are facing arrest or already have been arrested by the fbi. tom, tommy boy, tom, we haven't forgotten. like, this only happened like six weeks ago. so, yeah, you can go to washington if you want. you just can't continue to be part of the movement that inspires an insurrection against the united states. you need to call out cruz not for going to cancun but for going the way of sedition.

you're a harvard boy. you're real smart. look at the statue. you know that hawley and cruz committed sedition, insurrection to commit sedition. you know donald trump did the same. please, please, again, don't pretend that we're all so stupid that we're going to forget. like ted cruz. and all of this anti-ivy league talk. when all the top speakers. let's see. cruz went to princeton and harvard. hawley went to yale and stanford. trump of course lives in a country club that he owns. and cruz is talking about, oh, we're not the country club party. well, yeah, actually you are. i'm going to lob the softball across the plate because i'm sure you were as riled as i was and have as much or more to say about this.

absolutely shameless display of a party of insurrectionists who praise insurrectionists and who say they will vote again for an insurrectionist. >> what a shameful spectacle the republican party has become. and the three clips you used are three men who know better. this wasn't, you know, louie gohmert and jim jordan, although he was lurking about at cpac. these are three highly intelligent men who know they are trying to play the populist card, a world you used earlier, joe. the key to populism is not that you are doing things on behalf of the people but on behalf of the real people. a small segment of the people that you think are the real americans. not the ones that went to harvard, you know, or to princeton or to stanford. i think they present themselves as, you know, well, we were the guys that, you know, were just

there by accident. we were part of the conservative underground. but that's what makes it so despicable. they know exactly what they're saying, what they're doing. and i actually think after watching them and after watching the former guy, that this is priming people up for more violence. and they know it. and they don't care. they decided this is a base strategy. you and kasie were talking about the bill that has to pass, republicans have to find a way to pass it. that's not necessarily true if all they're relying on is constantly surviving chosen counters with their own base. and winning elections by razor-thin margins. they don't have to find a way to do anything except rile people enough to make them to vote every two to four years just enough to help them. what hawley, cruz and cotton want is to stay in washington. they don't want to go home.

they don't want to have to get some other kind of job. they like where they are. if saying they kinds of seditious things is how they stay in washington, then that's what they're going to do. . >> you know, it is such a joke. you look at ted cruz. it's hard not to laugh. but i fear that i'm making the same mistake with donald trump out of power that i made with donald trump before he came to power. >> yeah. . >> laughing at this. thinking this is a joke. thinking they're making clowns of themselves. and, again, always underestimating the impact. always understanding the impact that these shameless lies actually have on americans listening to these ivy league boys, talking ivy league colleges and this country club party attacking country clubs. . >> right.

is that the destruction again? yesterday -- >> wait, wait. i'm sorry, mika. nothing against going to ivy leagues. . >> well, i was just about to say that. . >> if you go to an ivy league school, that's great. you've worked hard and i'm sure you deserve it and that's something to celebrate. but don't talk down ivy league schools if you went to ivy league schools. and don't attack country clubs when you continue to kiss the feet of a guy who lives at his own country club and spent half of his time -- i don't know how many days, he spent in his own country clubs while he was supposed to be working in the white house. >> but, joe, is that the ground noise, again, missing the signal. >> i think unfortunately that's the signal. >> no. because when you think about it, everyone is distracted about this ivy league thing. and yet you wonder what was said yesterday? what was said in any of those

speeches that would try to change the mind of anybody who is thinking about blowing up the capitol when president biden makes his speech to congress? was anybody turned around? was anybody told the insurrection at the capitol on january 6th was wrong, that it was regretful, that it was a stain on our history, that it is not who we are, whoever we is at cpac? and i ask the question, what the hell is we? are you republicans? are you conservatives? because i don't see that and i don't hear that. and i also don't hear anybody who is saying stop the violence. against our country. against our u.s. capitol. against our constitution. against our democratic process. did anybody say that? >> no. >> any time? >> no. >> yesterday at cpac. . >> no. >> eddie glaude, from princeton. >> good morning, mika. look, i think it's important

what you have just laid out and what tom mentioned. we are in a course of a war. we have been for a while. january 6th it became hot for a moment. and we did not hold the josh hawleys and the ted cruzes accountable. what did we see the back drop of 500,000 dead. we saw the new redeemers. they hold particular views within the context of the civil war and the like who want america to be a certain sort. they want american to remain white and the vane of old europe. the old redeemers were plantation owners who exploited theeo man farmers. they didn't care about working white folks toiling on the land. they wanted to maintain control over the south. they exploited their fears, grievances and their hatreds. joe, to hear these folk talk about -- they don't want to

engage in the else sew taker conversations, they are doing an old playbook here. what we do know is this. we are still in the course of a war. we have folk who are trying to build political power in order to maintain a certain conception of america. and these folk are dangerous. we have to find a way i think to walk that delicate line between free speech and these folk who are in fact, insurrectionists, it seems to me. so we have a lot of work to do here. . >> well, and even ted cruz, eddie, when he got up there, made his joke about cancun. >> as people died freeze to go death in his state. that was funny. hysterical. >> doing the punch line on the backs of people who froze to death in texas. >> right. >> people who haven't had drinkable water in texas. didn't have drinkable water for weeks in texas. it's actually easy to look at

that and move past and forget for one moment that ted cruz and josh hall committed sedition, inspired people to commit sedition against the united states of america to stop a constitutional process for moving forward. and you've got hawley actually asking questions this past week of an incoming attorney general. you have cruz asking questions of the incoming attorney general about law, about order, about violence. people are trying to move past this. >> we need to hold them to account. we have talked about this repeatedly, holding josh hawley and ted cruz to account.

beyond the campiness of cpac, we have to understand what january 6th represented. and i'm just, just really quickly, i just don't know what the environment will be to govern with these folks still doing what they're doing out there. i don't know what the environment will be to govern as these folks are continuing to stoke this resentment that led to what we saw january 6th. i'm just really concerned. >> yeah. and of course when they attack ivy leaguers, when they attack country club types, it's part of just a bigger message, which is don't trust anybody in washington, d.c. only trust us. governing by gesture. these people, it really is extraordinary. it is something new.

seupt all about gesture. we're going to build the wall, and mexico is going to pay for it. border crossings were at a 50-year low. and they're going to accuse joe biden of being a socialist. again, a guy who has been accused throughout his senate career of being too chummy with business interests. it really, in this case, the ground noise and the signal gets mixed up because there really is no signal. they are not interested in being

responsible of any foreign policy measures. it is all gesture, all you outrage, and it ended with donald trump with a call to violence at the united states government. we have a question for you. >> hey, tom, one piece of news, if you will, that donald trump made yesterday, on his refusal to talk about january 6th, beyond his repeated big lie that he actually won the election, he did say he would not be forming his own political party. that had been in the wind there for a little while, he might try to, as part of his revenge tour, take out republicans by forming that party. what now if he's not going to do that? we sold lots of bold faced names. nikki haley, mike pence. what do you think the future of the republican party holds for those who don't want to follow donald trump, who don't want their party to be in the image

of the former president, the mitt romneys, lisa murkowskis. where can they go from here? how can they possibly, how can they try to influence and change this republican party if it is still going to be in the shadow of donald trump? >> the unfortunate part means to keep the republicans on it of power you're going to have to vote against all republicans. made this argument some years ago. even republicans you might otherwise think of as decent people who are interested in governing. joe is right, this party has no interest in governing. this is a collection of ambitious people who want to stay in power. i guess the party elders came to

him or someone came to him and said that's a recipe for losing a lot of elections, which i think would be the point. not even the future of the party, the future of the country. it leaves them with nowhere to go and having to fight it out inside a party that has been overtaken. and by large numbers. 4/5 of a base that descended into conspiracy, nuttery and sloganeering. they have nowhere to go. say i don't think donald trump should have a future in this

party. that means there will be a lot of blood letting politically, financially. and unfortunately i still think physically. i don't think we're past the threat of violence in primaries and in general election. >> i don't think we're past the violence at all. tom nichols, thank you very much. and still ahead, new jersey is one of many states expected to receive thousands of doses of the johnson & johnson coronavirus vaccine this week. governor phil murphy will give us an update on the rollout next on "morning joe". ing joe"

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how quickly do you think shots can get in arms? do you expect it to be later today, tomorrow, later this week? >> we think literally the next

24 to 48 hours americans should receive shots in arms. they are literally rolling out with the trucks as we speak. >> all right. that was ceo of johnson & johnson just moments ago on "today" laying out a timeline for the rollout of america's third coronavirus vaccine. joining us is the governor of new jersey, phil murphy. first of all, update us on how new jersey is doing on getting the update on its vaccine. and i know you will introduce a new group that is eligible. >> good to be with you, first of all. i had a very good conversation with alex gorsky yesterday at johnson & johnson from new jersey, a particular point of pride. we made a lot of progress. still a lot more to go. over 2 million shots in the arm. we are tackling the in equitities this virus has exposed.

houses of worship, other community centers. johnson & johnson vaccine gives us another important weapon. as you suggest and i will announce later today, we will begin in phases to open up our eligibility to a lot more communities, especially essential workers. at the head of the list will be agentors and folks in day care. >> so educators and folks in day care, not necessarily considered essential workers, correct? >> i wouldn't say that. protecting our kids, getting them the best education possible, helping moms and dads after this stressful period of having to work in many case from home and/or kids that are in the school systems that may not be in person. it's an imperative of ours to get school and get that back up on its feet. . >> no, i understand that. but they're not usually considered in that batch.

i mean, to have -- i agree teachers should be considered essential workers. but they aren't usually. is this something different that new jersey is doing? . >> i'm not sure about that, honestly. we've got a whole game plan that is going to breakdown. we're facing it in over a couple of weeks because we already have a supply demand in balance. we want to make sure we don't tilt that even further. and we will absolutely get to the essential workers sooner than later that work in transit or retail or long shoreman. those are groups that will all be eligible before this month is out. that's amazing. jonathan lemire has the next question. jonathan? >> governor, good to see you again. obviously your focus right now now is vaccine distribution over the next weeks and months to make sure all new jerseyians

what won't one get them. how about those who are reluctant to get the shot, to go ahead and do so. as part 2, as you look forward here, what's the next phase of the state perhaps reopening? you mention schools. are schools going to be open the next school year. . >> yeah. i would say on that last question, emphatically yes. and i hope we will get there a lot sooner. we already have the pluck of our kids, two-thirds of our kids are either in hybrid or full-on in person. that number has been going up. the vaccine is not a magic yay or ney. it is a big positive factor which is why we are proceeding the way we are the next couple of weeks. in terms of skepticism, it breaks down into a couple of categories, some of which are legitimate and others are not, frankly. there's the anti-vax crowd,

which i don't support. there are myths out there as it relates to women of child bearing age. and those myths need to be debunked. there is concern among women of that age. and most importantly, among our black and brown communities, particularly african-american communities, there is rightful skepticism based on the history of our country, frankly. so getting role models to get to the head of the line, public service campaigns reaching into black and brown churches is essential to push back on that rightful skepticism based on our american history. >> all right. eddie glaude, next question. >> governor murphy, it's so wonderful to talk with you. i tweeted out last night that i wanted to know what was going on. i had no idea. what is the information campaign that you're engaged in in the

state of new jersey, where we are, how we are sequencing the distribution of the vaccine and how has the supply demand imbalance impacted the execution of the strategy? i tweeted last night i had no idea. can you give me and a whole bunch of my fellow new jerseyians a sense of where we are and where we should be the next few weeks. >> another new jersey ian and princeton, good to see you. we have gone to zero to up to 2 million shots in the arms. we have a distribution system which we built out ahead of the federal supply and the federal supply, as we know, the biden administration inherited an empty cupboard. they have now done a terrific job moving the needle in the right direction. we are on the journey toward addressing the inequities this

virus exposed not just through vaccines, through testing and other means. again, that informs how we'll use, for instance, the johnson & johnson vaccine. it must be said, one dose, regular refrigeration. that gives us a lot of flexibility. we have 73,600 doses coming in the next couple of days. literally i believe all of them will go into hard-to-reach, underserved, overwhelmingly black and brown communities whether through pharmacies, through our counties, through emergency rooms in whatever form it takes. so this is a journey. we're not declaring any victory. we are going to be able to begin to open the state up i think the next number of weeks. but i think several months from now i think we're in a place where any new jerseyian who wants a shot will be able to get a shot. >> governor murphy, thank you very much. appreciate your coming up as

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media have tried to cancel me, stop me from representing the people of missouri, stop me from representing you. and guess what? i'm here today. i'm not going anywhere and i'm not backing down. >> for the first time ever cpac is not in our nation's capitol. that's because they won't let us anywhere near our nation's capitol. >> we won the election twice. i mean, you know, think about it. the task for our movement and our party is to stand up to this destructive agenda with confidence and with resolve. >> as we stand together and defend liberty, defend the constitution, defend the bill of rights of every american, in the immortal words of william wallace, freedom! >> oh, my god. what was that?

we watched cpac so you don't have to. >> they obviously didn't have acting school at harvard or princeton. >> they all went. >> oh, yeah. so it is so funny. these anti-elitists as they like to call themselves, so just in those opening clips which were chosen really for the fact that you had two people that were seditionists there. one person that was talking about tearing down statues when of course his party destroyed, tried to destroy the united states constitution and tried to disrupt the peaceful transition of power. so you had ted cruz, mr. anti-elitist who went to princeton and harvard. and then you had josh hawley, mr. anti-elitist who went to princeton -- or who went to yale

and then stanford. and then you had tom cotton. no, you didn't tear things up. in fact, 300 of your supporters are in jail now. 300 trump supporters are in jail now. tom cotton, a harvard boy. then you have donald trump, again, mr. populist who not only went to an ivy league school but lives in a country club. and then you have ted cruz saying, we're not country club republicans. no, you are. in fact, your guy that you cow down to that insults your wife, that insults your father's memory and even accused your father of being a murderer, you still worship him, even he said your father killed jfk and he attacks your wife. you say that it's -- the

democrats are like country club types that -- no. your guy lives not only at a country club, at his own country club. >> in a town that doesn't want him there. >> yeah. i've heard -- and i only know this because university of alabama, roll tide, and university of florida, go gators, but i've heard that ivy league people can really be elitists and work down their noses at working class people. i don't know because i didn't go there. though i will say that from a young age ivy league people, they've worked for me. they're pretty good workers. roll tide. but they spent the weekend attacking country club types. hello, donald trump. and attacking ivy league people. and this one guy comes out and

says, we don't want to talk to ivy league people. somebody told me he went to princeton and harvard. >> you mean one of the moderators. >> yeah, one of the speakers. so they're all ivy league boys. they're all these ivy league types, and they're such elitists. take that down. that's enough. they get it. they're such elitists that they think their supporters are really, really stupid. i understand ivy league. you get into ivy league, i guess. i don't understand it, i guess, because i went to university of alabama, roll tide. you start thinking everybody is dumb. i know that's what you think, donald. >> yeah. >> and you think everybody is stupid. and, so, you spend all weekend attacking country club types and ivy league.

you're all ivy league elitists. you all passed tax cuts for the richest people on the planet. you attack big tech, but you pass tax cuts that actually allow amazon to pay zero in taxes while working class americans and middle class americans that you are supposed to be protecting actually pay more in taxes than amazon when it comes to income taxes. it is such -- i mean, you lie so shamelessly. you're all ivy league brats, and you lie so shamelessly about being a man of the people, ted cruz. really? man of the people. you're against country clubs. are you? donald trump lives in country clubs.

how many days out of his presidency was he staying at his own country club? josh hawley, man of the people from missouri who went to yale and stanford is now talking about, oh, poor me. i'm just -- i'm an outsider. they won't let me talk. they won't let me -- please. this anti-elitist stuff is so shameful. and you really do. i guess, miikka, that's my takeaway from this weekend. they really do. they really are ivy league elitists who think that their followers are too stupid to actually read up about them on wikipedia or are too stupid to realize the tax cuts they paid under donald trump made every one of those big tech monopolist

oligarchs richer. my god. bezos because of the tax cuts, because of everything else. that guy has made $6 billion in one day last year. and his company paid zero dollars in income taxes last year because of donald trump, ivy league boy, ted cruz ivy league boy, josh hawley ivy league boy and who am i missing? all of them. and of course kennedy, john kennedy who -- that dog won't hunt. and then you look at tape from 2004, and he's like of course i went to oxford. i went to oxford university. you know, i'm a democrat, and i will be voting for john kerry.

we have wind sailed together around nantucket. i must say, it is a bit better as far as the wind coming in east ward. i mean, come on, guys. at least take a couple of acting classes if you are going -- at this point you are just so shameless. your anti-intellectual b.s. is so shameless. aren't you glad you didn't have to watch this weekend. >> yes. very sweaty and -- >> they're clowns. >> we have jonathan lemire, founder of the conservative website the bull work and author of how the right lost its mind, charlie psychs. >> charlie, i'm going to cut you out.

charlie, i hope -- i mean, maybe you -- i don't know. maybe you went to an ivy league school too. i went to alabama and i love it. i like ivy league school because like i said before, i've had people from ivy league schools working for me before. they're pretty good workers. we have these anti-elitists attacking ivy league schools and they went to princeton and harvard. they went to yale and stanford. it is really again ted cruz and cruz mocking leaving his state while people are freezing to death. that's the punch line at cpac. i don't know how we were ever members of that party. i just don't know.

>> yeah. >> i don't recognize it at all. >> okay. and you left out one thing. remember, ted cruz when he went to cancun was staying at the ritz-carlton. so man of the people who is talking about we're not the country club party. how many points can you point this out? donald trump living in his own country club. but they're all playing. they're going through the role. look, this is -- what really struck me about cpac this is all rul chur war all the time. it's all demagoguery all the time. there are no ideas. there is no policy. they are unrependant. here you have this cpac event and here we are a couple of months out from the attack on the capitol. we have 500,000 dead americans, and you would not know any of that happened. so it's all like i am the man of the people. here are the people you should resent.

here are the people you should blame. so you really got the mask of what conservatism has become ripped off. by the way, joe, your point. over the weekend i kept saying to myself, how was i ever in the room with these people? how was i ever aligned with them? why did i ever think that i shared values with these people? because you see them up on the stage just strutting around and playing, and there is no principal. there is no consistency. there is no policy. and they're living in an alternative universe. you would think there would be a moment where we say, hey, maybe we ought to rethink about the sedition, about the white supremacy, about the fact that we failed to protect half a million americans from dying. none of that. no reset. no looking in the mirror except that, yes, ted cruz, man of the people, freaking ritz-carlton. we are not, you know, the

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we also have with us a member of the new york times editorial board, mara gay and national political correspondent for "the washington post," dave wygle joins us. >> dave actually did go to cpac. i saw your reporting, some interesting theories about who is president right now. something about the hope. and how big was the qanon

presence this weekend? >> that was probably limited, right. but the degrees we're talking about is that qanon conspiracy theorists were kept out of there. i saw people not allowed in the next day. they were good at policing real fringe stuff. there was a big rally outside. i'm not sure how much coverage it got. there was a rally of about 100 or so people. the proud boys was there. i saw qanon signs and conspiracy theories. there is more sanitization in the clips. the election was probably stolen and whatever happened on january 6th it wasn't our fault. these are two themes and there was maybe two people who challenged that premise. it was either not discussed or

it was shared on stage, despite the fact this is a theme of the weekend. there were conservative streaming services that had to cut away at various points because in the real world where lawyers are watching for people who spread misinformation about election companies or say the election was stolen, there are consequences for lying about this. if you are the president -- former president, i should say, repeatedly saying you won the election and you will win a third time in 2024, i guess the consequences were meeted out on him. but the premise and you heard this e flekted in the audience was that, well, something happened. donald trump is not president anymore, but he truly did not lose the election. >> well, here we go. it was really hard to believe this is what we had for four years. he's some of president trump's

hour speech plus yesterday complete with an enemy's list. >> instead of attacking me and more importantly the voters of our movement, top establishment republicans in washington should be spending their energy and opposing biden, pelosi, schumer and the democrats. the democrats don't have grand standers like mitt romney, little ben sasse, richard burr, bill cassidy, susan collins, lisa murkowski, poot toomey. the warmonger, a person that loves seeing our troops fighting, liz cheney. the good news is in her state she's been censured and in her state her poll numbers have developed faster than i have ever seen. so hopefully they will get rid of her with the next election. get rid of them all.

for the next four years, the brave republicans in this room will be at the heart of the effort to oppose the radical democrats, the fake news media and their toxic cancel culture. i want you to know i am going to continue to fight right by your side. we will do what we have done right from the beginning, which is to win. they kept saying, he's going to start a brand-new party. we have the republican party. it's going to unite and be stronger than ever before. i am not starting another party. that was fake news. we all knew that the biden administration was going to be bad, but none of us even imagined just how bad they could be and how far left they would go. joe biden has had the most disastrous first month of any president in history. that's true. in just one short month, we have

gone from -- >> turn him off. i can't. i mean, seriously? blah, blah, blah. i can't -- i can't listen to it. >> it really is hard. >> that was painful. that was a long four years. but you know what's interesting, mara, is he's taking about, oh, we have the republican party. well, this was like the most hard core of the most hard core wing of the republican party. self-selected trumpers who knew he was going to speak. and they still only get 55% of the straw vote. somebody called and said, how is it? barack obama ran another term and they had a straw poll at a pac, he would get about 80%, 90%. for donald trump to be sitting at 55%, i'm not so sure -- in

fact i know those numbers are lower than he and everybody else there was expecting. >> that's true. but at the same time, it is hard to miss the fact that trumpism has won. and, you know, it's amazing as a woman watching that footage because it really is a festival of toxic masculinity. you're watching this. and after everything donald trump gets up there and starts talking about gleefully talking about, bragging about how he owns the republican party. so all of those men that got up there before him, i assume, i assume he was one of their keynote speakers were essentially bragging about how they got owned by donald trump. on top of everything, you have to wonder. these people call themselves leaders? it is really the most cowardly form of political leadership we have ever seen. they can't stand up to him. they can't stand up to his movement and they can't even bother to tell his supporters

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first, cpac is not the entirety of the republican party. that's number one. political organizations and campaigns are about winning. over the last four years, we lost the house of representatives, the senate and the presidency. no -- that has not happened in a single four years under a president since herbert hoover. now, if we plan to win in 2022 and 2024, we have to listen to the voters. we had economic policies that were working. so if that's the case and we can speak to those policies and those families, then we'll win. but if we idolize one person, then we'll lose. >> bill cassidy of louisiana voted to convict former president trump. joining us now is one of the ten house republicans who vote to

impeach him to set up that trial. congressman adam of illinois. >> calling out his enemy's list. i said i'm reminded what my mother said. my mother is very tough. the clark women were tough. she said, joey, judge yourself by the people who hate you. i said i don't know if i could do that, mom. but i was thinking about you and donald trump putting you on his enemy's list. i think for a lot of people that should be a badge of honor. >> well, it is. i would rather be on the enemy's list of a losing choke artist that failed to win an election that frankly had he managed halfway decently anything since he was an incumbent he probably could have won. but he didn't and now he has to

blame everybody else. i think what you could see at that speech yesterday was recycling old talking points. you know, just stream of consciousness. and i think it's obvious there is no vision from donald trump. there is no desire to paint a vision. all he desires is to stand in front of a crowd. i don't think that shows any -- that he's really going to be any serious at least growing force going forward. >> so, congressman, we were -- i spent a lot of my day yesterday on the phone, republicans i served with in congress back in the '90s and the early 2000s, people that i worked with in my office. and i just kept asking, was this our party? have we been -- has the republican party been this bad for this long? and we got a lot of different

answers. your thoughts yesterday looking at your party and looking at -- looking at what happened at cpac over the weekend, where is the republican party right now? what is its future in america? >> i mean, you look at the civilism is so incredible. i have seen pictures of people looking at the golden trump statue thinking they're being funny. i expect nothing but fear through this speech. if you think about in history all these great american leaders we have talked about and rallying people to strength, this president has done nothing but reflect people's darkness back to them, reflect their fears back to them. and i was -- you know, it's sad, but i'll tell you. i put out a video called no

fear. and the point of this is to say, look, we have to disinfect fear from not just our political leader, but we have to disinfect it from ourselves. it is the greatest enemy of the united states. the biggest enemy is fear in our hearts. it is sad, but i'm still hopeful that 45% of people at this trump rally didn't want donald trump again. i think there is a growing number of people out there that see he's a has been. >> very tapped into. the emotion of fear is anger. i think they were tapping that as well. let's bring into the conversation susan. did you hear anything at cpac that condemned the violence on jan 6th or tried to stop future violence? by the way, you can take the next question to the congressman. >> no, i certainly did not, miikka. what i heard was people praising

what happened on january the 6th, showing a party that is just unrecognizable to myself and i'm sure to the congressman as well. congressman, you mentioned the issue of fear. i was thinking back in 2017, mitch mcconnell and paul ryan really didn't understand donald trump and they almost acted from fear in pushing back against him because they didn't know what he was going to do next to him. so not standing up to donald trump proved to be disastrous for the party and frankly for the legislative agenda. but i'm curious now with your new video that you have out there and putting country first, how do you stand up to donald trump and show no fear? is it through things like supporting your other republican congress members who stood up to donald trump and voted to impeach him? can you just elaborate a little bit on standing up to fear? >> yeah. i think standing up to fear is

just truth telling, right? it is explaining how you are being manipulated. so the fact that you look at that speech and if you had seen my video prior and had seen the speech, you would see that donald trump is using fear. that's what we're talking about. the way to show no fear is just to tell the truth. donald trump is a con artist using your fears and darkness to feed his ego. that's what he wants to do. the republican party has lost its way. this is not the republican party i joined and you joined. this is a republican party that can get back to it. by the way, just telling the truth and standing alone in a crowd can show no fear. the bottom line is, i'm going to win a third time, the election, so continued lies. by the way, most of the people in that room probably know the election wasn't stolen. part of the fear is just

admitting it wasn't stolen. >> you know, i'm slightly going to disagree with you ongoing back to the republican party that we joined. i don't want that republican party. i want a more inclusive republican party. i want a republican party that stands up for women, for people of color. and most of all, that stands up for democracy, ending voter suppression efforts. i know you have a nonprofit that you're working with to build a grass roots army. i wonder if you are focussed on that. unless we get back to the fundamental of having a strong democracy, everything else is just not worth a hill of beans. >> yeah. the bottom line is, you know, as the times adjust, of course the republican party has to change. there is no doubt. there will be issues the republican party will go through. same with the democrats. everything will have to change with the 21st century. but when i say returning to what the party was, it was more -- i

can remember the days when presidents would stand up and say words of inspiration. and after difficult times they would stand up and say unifying things. so, yeah, a 21st century approach. but understanding that a republican party -- look, by the way, i have been a republican far longer than donald trump has and i'll be a republican far longer than him. that's why it is incumbent for him to say, you're not going to take over my party and at least be a competing member of a government that needs two party and needs two healthy parties. >> so how is the battle going inside the republican caucus? obviously liz cheney and kevin mccarthy are at odds there. very interesting. kevin mccarthy still -- still in donald trump's good steads, despite on the house floor mccarthy said that trump bore a responsibility for what happened on january the 6th.

how is that battle going inside your own republican caucus? >> i mean, look, i think it's still exactly where we have been. first off, nobody survives being a friend of donald trump, by the way. so you may as well get it over with now and keep your integrity intact. but i think it's -- everybody wants to talk about unity in the republican party. there isn't, right? and we're going to pretend like there is unity. and there is some unity opposing certain tinges, but that's not a unified party just because you are opposed to something. that's why there needs to be this discussion. this is a time for choosing. are you a country first republican or are you a donald trump first republican? and somebody like liz cheney with real courage can stand in front, know she's going to take some hits from the freedom club and the people that go out and act like they're defending the constitution and are doing the opposite with cancel culture.

but she has shown her ability to stand up and be strong in this. maybe i'm too much of an optimist, but every day that goes by, donald trump will become less and less relevant. that's why we have to have this competing vision because in the absence of donald trump's relevance, something has to fill that and i certainly hope it's what i'm thinking about with country first. >> thank you very much. susan, thank you for your insight as well. and up next, russian opposition leader aleksi navalny has now been moved to a notorious prison camp where he may endure harsh manual labor. bill joins us with his latest reporting. keep it right here on "morning joe."

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of corruption and influence peddling after trying to illegally obtain information from a senior official about a legal action in which he was involved. the two codefendants were also found guilty and given the same sentence. sarkozy will face a trial later this month along with 13 other people on charges of illegal financing of his 2012 presidential campaign. wow. now to what we're learning about the fate of russian opposition leader aleksi navalny. he has been moved from a moscow jail to one of russia's most notorious prison camps to serve out his two and a half year sentence. the facility is classified as a red zone prison for the harsh, manual labor prisoners must endure. joining us now from london, chief global correspondent bill.

>> bill, it is great to have you with us. we want you to respond really briefly to the news out of france. the ex-president getting a three-year sentence. two of those years suspended. but he still remains a popular figure with conservatives in france, and he's not the first former sentenced to be sentence. back in 2011. what insights can you give us on that? >> yeah, joe. a popular figure and one who, i think, is generally accepted. wanted a political comeback. he was still being spoken of as a possible candidate in the next presidential election. i'm not sure whether this jail sentence will spell the very end of his political career, but it is a huge message. i would suggest that it's a message that will go all the way to washington and mar-a-lago. i know the two judicial systems

are very different. but here is france, a major western country, which, as you say, not for the first time is charging and sentencing a former president to a year in jail. so, i mean, no doubt there will be shockwaves across france as a result of this. and who knows what it will do to his political career. >> and now the latest on aleksi navalny and where he has been sent, bill. >> yeah. so if you remember, on thursday his lawyer turned up at the detention facility and he was not there. in a situation under the soviet system, he has simply disappeared for the last few days. it would appear, although there is no confirmation from the russian prison service, that he is not in a penal colony east

well known for being one of the toughest penal colonies of the 700 or so in that country. it is designed for prisoners who the authorities want to isolate and cutoff. so, for example, it is not even part of the russian prison mail system. so aleksi navalny will spent at least two years, two and a half years there. i have been speaking to a high profile person who used to be russia's richest man, former oil tycoon. spent ten years in a siberian prison. he said, for example, navalny could be there for much longer than his official sentence as he was because vladimir putin controls the courts and can keep him there as long as he wants. he has some harsh words to say about putin, calling him a mafia

boss. secondly, calling for russians to overthrow putin in a revolution. listen to what he says, first of all, about vladimir putin. >> you could say that he is a authoritarian. he is not identifying his interests with this country. his interests are the interest of the group who he represents and who support him. he's a godfather. in fact, as i said, his interests are not russia's interests. if people use force, they cannot hope for the change of the regime. again, if they want to change the regime, they should be prepared to go the whole way. they should be prepared to use force. >> prepared to use force. very dangerous words there. and advice to joe biden not to treat putin like an ordinary

leader. and also if he's going to put sanctions through against russia, which of course he wants, to target putin's inner circle, not just scatter gun sanctions against the russian government. another interesting thing was his comments about donald trump because he feels the last four years of trump have done two things. first of all the damage to america. let's take a listen. >> there is no doubt about it. absolutely. everything that happened, both during trump's presidency and as a result of his four years and the storming of the capitol hill, all these things dealt a blow to the reputation of america as the more leader in the world, particularly in the eyes of the russian public. >> but he also says that, you know, the end result of all this was that american institutions,

its political system, the judiciary, the media, all of them were resilient to donald trump. that is a good because it's shown the length of the american system to the russian people. whereas under putin, albeit under two decades of putin's rule, putin has destroyed russia's institution. so an interesting perspective there on actually the strength of the american system. miikka? >> nbc's bill nealy, thank you so much. live in london. thank you. up next, as part of his coronavirus relief package, president biden is pushing to have small businesses across the country and he's not alone in that effort. we'll talk about that next on "morning joe."

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. we have no time to waste, if we act now decisively, quickly and boldly we can finally get ahead of this virus, get our economy moving again and the people of this country have suffered far too much for too long. we need to relieve that suffering. >> president biden speaking on saturday after the house voted to pass his $1.9 trillion covid-19 relief package over the weekend, largely along partisan lines at 219 to 212. the bill includes money for coronavirus vaccinations and testing, $1,400 direct payments and a $400 federal unemployment

bonus. the relief package also includes tens of billions in emergency financial aid for small businesses and not for profits. help that president biden has stressed is critical during the pandemic. since the beginning of this pandemic 400,000 small businesses have closed, 400,000. and millions more are hanging by a thread. these small businesses, not the ones with 500 employees, but these small businesses that with a handful of folks, they are 90% of the businesses in america. getting our economy back means bringing our small businesses back. >> in a moment we're going to introduce you to some of the women who are spearheading small business relief, including many who are over the age of 50. but first the significance of being over 50. for one, there are more women over 50 in this country today than at any other point in history.

it's a wealthy powerful demographic. and so know your value has teamed up with forbes for a special 50 over 50 list. to celebrate the women who have achieved significant success after that age. and showcased the women who are shattering misconceptions about gender and age. and by the way the list of missions for the list, it closes today. let's bring in chief content officer for forbes media and editor of forbes, randall lane. also with us for this conversation we have know your values daniella pierre bravo, a contributor to this forbes list ongoing segment. daniella, i've noticed what's happening as we're doing this weekly is that we're focusing in on women over 50 but they are well over 50, not just over 50. topping our list today, number one on the women who are spearheading small business relief is 71 years old.

>> that's right, covita -- head of the small business administration up until january and was the highest ranking latina in trump's cabinet. during that time in her role she provided over 700 billion in relief to small businesses, she's also worked at the department of the treasury and was the highest ranking latina at ups in the history of the company where she worked for 30 years. she started there as a part-time night shift box handler working her way ultimately up to president of latin america and caribbean operations. just existing in these spaces like covita has done in leadership, where many times in her career she must have been the only woman, the only latina and all the difficulties that means in going up the ladder. it brings a tunnel vision and strong sense of purpose to the roles in work she's already done and how she's led during this time where women of color have been the most affected. >> again, she's the american

dream and as people recognize her name it's because she was the treasurer of the united states before she took over the sba head. her signature has been on the all the money for the last several years. that's a great -- that was a great moment as well. i mean, she was the one as you mentioned who was implementing the ppp loans and while ppp loans were controversial, 70% of them went to businesses with fewer than ten people. so she was a real -- in terms of hundreds of billions of dollars she was the one funneling it into the small business pipeline. >> and second on our list at age 59 combining finance and tech, lisa mens, daniella, tell us about her. >> mika, lisa is the president of the opportunity finance network, the nation's leading network of community developed finance institutions. she brings a long career to economic justice and really driving dollars to places and people that have been historically left behind by

mainstream economics institutions, black, latino, minority and rural communities, these people have been systematically affected by the racial wealth gap, poverty and racism, lisa was -- her first job was picking strawberries in different farms, during the pandemic she's been at the forefront of bringing inclusive leading, lending opportunities to marginalized communities. her company announced $100 million investment with twitter aimed at addressing racial injustice and poverty in the u.s. and early in the pandemic she partnered with google to launch $125 million fund for small businesses. >> so randall, third on our list we're going to be looking in the forbes list and a lot of firsts, this is the first ceo of the u.s. kpamber of commerce, susan clark, tell us about her.

>> next week she takes office, the chamber of commerce, 109 years old and now for the first time a woman at the top. people think of the chamber of commerce as big business, but they actually represent 3 million businesses. mika, as you said the vast, vast majority of business in america are small businesses so she all the sudden becomes arguably, you know, definitely one of two or three most important women in terms of spurring small business growth. >> and we have also andrea jung, 62 years old, the president and ceo of gramine america and then there's the unsung hero who is 53 years old, melissa bradley, daniella, tell us about her. >> melissa is a founder and managing partner at 1863 ventures, a business development platform she calls the new majority entrepreneurs, women and people of color.

melissa's resume is extensive but as a woman of color she knows the barriers and lack of access to funding and investment opportunities. she's been really at the forefront of creating solutions. just in the pandemic she's a founder of eureka, a tech company that helps small businesses with coaching and capital and she's partnered with facebook and salesforce to distribute $100 million in grants to small businesses that need it, just really incredible. >> and randall, as we close today we should mention to our viewers that submissions -- this is your last day to get in submissions. and i can't imagine, we've been finding so many -- so many women at so many different ages over 50, such a long runway, what have you learned bringing in all these names that are coming to you? >> again, as you said mika, as the unsung heroes and these stories we're getting that we haven't heard, we have until midnight, you can go to know your value or forbes.com. i just checked before we came on

here, we're at 9,838 submissions. we are going to surpass 10,000 today. and so thousands and thousands of amazing stories. >> what a list. it's going to be amazing. go to know your value.com or forbes.com and click on 50 over 50 to learn more, the nomination deadline, once again, is today. get those nominations in. nominate yourself. that does it for us this morning. stephanie ruhle picks up the coverage right now. hi there, i'm stephanie ruhle live at msnbc headquarters here in new york city. it is monday, march 1st. it has now been one year since the first covid deaths were recorded in this country. but today we start a brand new month and a brand new chapter in the fight against this virus. for the very first time we are going to have three vaccines in the public at the same time. johnson & johnson adding its one shot vaccine to theix