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and two of cuomo's accusers speak out. grappling with the most recent fallout from the governor's conduct. welcome to thursday, it is "meet the press daily" and i'm chuck todd. there is an uncomfortable sense of uncertainty in washington right now. so far all has been quiet and calm at the capitol. police have beefed up security and the house has cancelled its session after the fbi and dhs warned of a potential second attack on the capitol for march 4th, which is today. it's a day which far right extremists delusionally believe will mark some kind of overthrow of the government revealing itself as the true inauguration day of donald trump as president. so the precautions being taken today may be overkill but they may not be. the warnings were serious enough to cancel activity on the house floor. speaker pelosi attempted to

downplay the significance of the move today saying they were also hurrying things up to let house republicans get to their retreat today but the senate is proceeding as normal. but the intelligence certainly was serious enough for republican congressman michael mccaul who was recently the top republican on the homeland security committee to publicly call for donald trump to tell the supporters to stand down in light of this new threat. chris wray recently testified that the dangers of extremist are metastasizing and there there are 2,000 investigations under way. moments ago we learned the capitol police has decided to request a continuance of the support from the department of defense and have national guard troops in and around the capitol for at least another 60 days. and yesterday top officials at the fbi, dhs, do, od and the national guard testified about the possible rim effects of the successful attack on january

6th. >> we do assess that the breach on the capitol could inspire others to act. >> i agree. anytime an adversary is successful others pay attention and so we're worried that this would be an inspiration. >> i agree with that. >> i agree as well. >> my colleague jacob soboroff spoke exclusively earlier today in a remote interview with the dhs secretary about the decision to warn authorities that the capitol might be targeted today. >> one of the greatest threats we face in the homeland is the rise of domestic violent extremism. one of our responsibilities in the department is to ensure that we're disseminating intelligence and information to our state and local law enforcement partners and to the communities so that we can equip the communities to guard against this growing threat. we are watching the threat

stream, the information, social media, other sources with respect to this particular day, march 4th. but quite frankly we are vigilant every day when we must be when the threat is as acute as it is in the violent extremism context. >> i'm going to talk to jacob for more on his exclusive interview, including what the dhs secretary told him about the sprawling challenges facing the biden administration, the issue of border security, immigration and obviously the race to reunify some of these children with their parents. that's coming up. but first i'm going to get more on the domestic violent extremist threat. so joining me now is pete williams. and certainly the social media aspect of it. and mary mccord, a former acting assistant attorney general for national security and an expert in domestic extremism. pete, let me start with you

today, it was interesting to hear the speaker of the house suddenly downplay the decision today to not have a house session. it was implied that it had everything to do with the threat. obviously, maybe she's more worried about optics on that front. but have we learned more about any specifics of this threat, or are you starting to think this is under the umbrella of maybe we're being a little more precaution since we underreacted on january 6th? >> definitely the latter, chuck, no question about it. the intelligence that was gathered by law enforcement, i'm told, was of a specific group talking about the idea of doing an attack on the capitol today on march 4th. talking about an idea. in other words, aspirational. wouldn't it be nice if this happened? but nothing that went to anything concrete as a result. in other words, no sign that anybody was getting on the bus, fueling up the car, buying plane

tickets, renting hotel rooms, getting ready to come here. and if you think about january the 6th, in a sense the rally was the ideal cover for groups that were coming here because they wanted to storm the capitol. it was a place for them to rally. if anything like that happened today, if they were gathering on freedom plaza or on the ellipse or somewhere else then obviously that would be a sign that they were intending to do something and there's been none of that and i think for all those reasons i don't think anybody expected anything to happen today but nonetheless, you know, abundance of caution seems to be the watch phrase here. i would say one other thing, though, in the context of the introduction you gave. i mean, one of the things that's difficult about this threat is that one group over here talking with each other about wouldn't it be nice if could be overheard by another group over here and taken as, hey, that's a great idea, let's go do it. because there is no leader to

this movement, so widespread and so many different ideological roots to it i think that's one of the reasons why it's so difficult to get a handle on and why you see these perhaps overcautious responses. >> i want to follow up a little bit on what we learned or didn't learn yesterday, and that is essentially whether it's three hours, as the general said, or even 90 minutes that the pentagon is claiming, there seems to be a massive communication breakdown somewhere when it came to the decision of how to communicate the decision that, yes, the national guard could help. are we getting any more clarity today based on general walker's testimony yesterday. >> no, because that gap you're talking about is when the defense department says the secretary of defense, the acting secretary chris miller finally said, okay, send up the guard. it's more than half an hour until the commander of the guard gets the word. he says he already had people on buses waiting to go and he was

just waiting for them to leave with the police escort so they could rush up to the capitol. so there's no good answer to what was going on. why did it take half an hour for him to get that green light? and the senators want to have the former dod officials, the former army officials who were all involved in that discussion come up and testify and so far they haven't and until they do i'm not sure that we're going to get the answer to that question. >> hey, one more thing, pete, a member of congress said the other day that they feel safer at congress than they do at their house. and i wonder what is being discussed about individual safety for members of congress. >> well, that is a very tricky point and it's come up a little bit in some of these hearings. you can understand why they feel safe now in the capitol with 5,000 guard troops on duty, and maybe through the end of may, too, if they're going to be extended, all that razor wire, all those check points. i mean, there's no public admission to the capitol right

now. so you can understand why they feel at ease there, and there's no such security at home or when they travel and this is a challenge. you've got 535 members of congress, many of whom travel around and they want to be seen. they want to be visible when they go home. that's part of the endless campaigning that they engage in. and how do you protect them from that? that is a huge challenge that even just the federal judiciary has gone through, which is a much smaller community of people, trying to figure out how do you protect all those federal judges? >> yeah, and we've got to find the money somewhere, maybe it's local law enforcement that is paid to do this, you know when they're in. i mean, they're going to have to figure something out. sadly. because of the current period we're in. pete, thank you. randy, you and your colleague ben collins in some ways were america's raw intelligence feed before january 6th. you know, it is a bit -- i'll be honest, i'm sure you feel this way, watching the testimony of these experts talking about, you

know, we didn't know this, we didn't know that, it was like jeez, if you just opened up your ipad and read nbc news.com you would have learned a lot. compare the chatter that you were reporting on on the 6th versus everything up to today. >> yeah, i don't know if you want me on that job. we were literally yelling on the 5th about the violence headed to the capitol. that's an incredibly rare example of people announcing their crimes before they go do anything. no one is announcing anything like that now. the online spaces look a lot like the capitol today, it's pretty empty. we're just not seeing the same mass online mobilization that we saw on the 6th and leading up to the 6th. now, we have seen a vocal group of qanon supporters who claim that today is indeed the day of the storm. i think this is the 20th time they've moved the goal post but today is the day, it's the judgment day for democratic

lawmakers and others but, you know, qanon is mostly a passive crowd. the motto is trust the plan. so they want to watch this thing happen from their computers. the only reason we saw so many of them in d.c. on the 6th was because they were summoned by the president. and a lot of influencers are saying don't do anything in real life. they have a new conspiracy that it's a government plot to round up all the trump supporters. you know, even far right media is claiming it's some type of fed honey pot. it seems like they've learned some lessons like peet was saying about an abundance of caution but now what we're looking for is this smaller space, the offline communicating, how have they reacted since social media has taken away their megaphones, that they have no real leader, what are they doing now and it's harder to find those spaces but it's not impossible.

extremist researchers are all watching those spaces. >> i am curious, after january 6th, we saw -- at least there seemed to be some evidence of it broke the spell of "q" for some people. and i know after each one of these sort of high profile whiffs of these prophecies that it does break the spell for a number of people. is that a -- is it persistent? is it a -- is this a -- are we seeing sort of in the same way the virus was going down and the actual covid, are we seeing fewer people cling to the "q," to qanon right now, or is it sort of static? >> qanon is no longer -- "q" hasn't posted in months. qanon isn't really the thing that it initially was. now it really is more of a very conspiratorial maga crowd, a lot of people in qanon are actually

moving the goal post back to 2024 after the cpac speech. so yeah, you are definitely seeing the group winnow down in terms of the extremists and its myths but those people, the ones who are the true believers, as it gets -- as the groups get smaller those groups also get more radical. we're still watching it. >> brandy, thank you. let me bring in mary mccord. let's go big picture here. on one hand both the reports from brandy and pete certainly indicate that this is a bit disorganized. that certainly some of these folks have crawled -- maybe some of them have crawled back under their rocks for now. how would you label the level of threat we're dealing with right now when it comes to these domestic violent extremists? >> you know, i think we're in this period that reminds me of the first few weeks after the unite the right rally in

virginia, another event, much smaller than january 6th but that was another event where immediately the extremists who had partaken in that felt euphoric, that they had been so successful, they achieved something, stepped off the virtual space into the physical space and obviously we saw that january 6th. but in the days that followed, then as now, as universal condemnation rained down upon them, as criminal charges started to be brought, as people started to be arrested, we started seeing back then and we're seeing now finger pointing, blame. you know as the reporters just indicated it's a honey pot or antifa has spotted everything. it's a lull as brandy just indicated because these groups are sort of reorganizing, figuring out what is going to be their next cause of the day and there will be another cause of the day because there always is. and, you know, one of the dangerous things about january

6th is you brought conspiracy theorists together with unlawful private militias together with violent extremists, accelerationists adamant on starting a civil war and ordinary citizens who actually firmly believe there had been election fraud. and you had all of those people participating in that event allowing the most extreme among them to really almost radicalize in the moment so many others to engage in the violent attack on the capitol. and so i think it's going to be a while before we see something like that again, hopefully we'll never see anything like that again but those were -- right now we're in a period of all the various participants reassessing. >> when you hear christopher wray say there are 2,000 active cases on domestic violent extremists, i guess i have a chicken and egg question for

you. is there a rise in domestic violent extremism or are we just looking for it harder? >> well, you know, i think there's both honestly. definitely they are looking harder but as you start to look more you come up with leads that lead you to more investigations. so just as in post-9/11 as there was a concerted whole of government effort on improving our intelligence collection and our intelligence sharing and the -- using the tools available to try to prevent acts of terrorism as opposed to prosecute after the fact now you're seeing that same sort of use of broadening and use of all the tools of government, intelligence collection sharing and i'm not talking about new surveillance authorities on americans that threaten first amendment rights. i'm just talking about sharing of information about potential violent threats, potential terrorist activities that you're seeing, again, as you start investigations, one thing leads to another, you pick up a few other people you might be

interested in. so i think that's partly also why you see the explosive growth in the number of open investigations. >> the fact that there might be elected officials who have sympathies with some of these groups, how much does that just complicate things even more? you know, it's like when it came to international extremists plotting on our soil, you know, you felt like the government was kind of unified. we're in a situation now where there may be some who are so sympathetic they could undermine what we're doing. >> i think that's been a huge problem. i mean, particularly over the last several years with former president trump, you know, literally being at the very top of the government and openly giving some license and some credibility to conspiracy theories, propagating them himself, particularly with the stop the steal and, you know,

the lies that he had won in a landslide. these were things that allowed his followers to feel. and you're seeing this come out in some of the criminal cases that they actually had his -- not only his blessing to do the attack on the capitol, but actually had been called by him to do it. so, you know, this past period has been, i think, very difficult and very unlike anything we ever saw with respect to international terrorism. of course, as you indicated, the government, at least the u.s. government and the coalition governments around the world were pretty universally, you know, speaking with one voice. and so obviously trump is no longer in office. he still does have a megaphone and he has this veneer of credibility, power and privilege that allows him to continue to attract adherence, including those who would use extreme measures, including violence, you know, to support a reemergence of him as the president whether it's, you know, today on this historic inauguration day, or in 2024 or

some other time. i think, you know, any time we're talking about elected officials who are propounding false statements, that's a problem because people will feel like they can believe that. >> all the more reason we need to get to the bottom of the missing 90 minutes to three hours of communications between the pentagon and the national guard. mary mccord, brandy -- and pete williams, thank you all. jacob soboroff's exclusive interview with the secretary of homeland security. the coronavirus dilemma, the good news, the numbers show the u.s. is administering more than 2 million coronavirus vaccines a day. hallelujah. the bad news, every other number shows we could be headed for yet another surge. we'll be right back. downy is softer,

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welcome back, we've got a lot more now from jacob soboroff and his exclusive sitdown, or remote sitdown, i should say, with newly confirmed homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas. jacob spoke to the secretary about the situation at the border. growing backlog of unaccompanied migrant children. >> nbc news has obtained data that shows as of tuesday cbp had 1,763 unaccompanied kids in its custody, 625 of them were there longer than the legal 72-hour limit to be transferred out to hhs. that same day my understanding is you briefed the president of the united states at the white house about the fact dhs projects 117,000 unaccompanied children, 117,000 could cross the border this year. that would be a record.

is that number accurate, first of all? and how do you plan on processing and treating those children who come to the united states humanely? >> what we are doing is building the capacity to address the needs of those children and we are guided by some core principles. number one, we act in the best interest of the children, and we act in the best interest of the american people and thirdly we adhere to our values and principles as a country. and so, in fact, the numbers are significant. the challenge is significant. and our plans are well under way as we build the capacity to address the needs of the children. and we are rebuilding from scratch. >> and jacob soboroff joins me now. jacob, it's an excellent interview. i read the whole transcript and, you know, you just -- obviously you're so -- you know this issue so well.

what i found intriguing about his answers to your many questions, one was that nobody wanted to talk about sort of the root problem. i thought it was interesting he said, yeah, there's a backlog of people that it's gotten even more violent and more impoferrished, so it's more desperate than ever. and no discussion on the long-term issue. he talked about how his hands were tied, the deportations in haiti and the other with the cdc advisory here. it looks to me, it's going to take a while for big changes to happen. is that your takeaway? >> i think that's certainly, chuck, what they want the american public to know and understand. there are some very concrete things they can do and i did think, you know, hearing from him they were going to say they were building capacity, the translation for everybody watching is there will be, in

all likelihood, more tent facilities, cbp, or influx facilities from hhs because there is not the capacity here at the border to treat those children coming across according to projections humanely. one of the things i thought he said that was particularly important, and new, is that he doesn't believe that children and their parents together as families should be held in immigration detention. that would be a significant departure not just from the trump administration but also from the obama administration which opened those family detention centers, very much controversially. so i do think they see and are looking to have a departure from past policies, but they are definitely not taking it at a rapid clip, including with the title 42, the public health expulsions from the border. they used the trump administration's justification of coronavirus and public health professionals, activists all say there is no public health justification for doing that at this point. >> yeah, it just comes -- it

does just feel, and you tell me if this is just sort of the nature of, you know and perhaps our current politics make it impossible to do any big policy changes but it feels like what dhs is under new management so they're going to deal with the same problems, just more humanely? >> that's what they -- that is the messaging, right, but there hasn't been necessarily the -- i mean, let's give them credit where credit is due. they have stopped the remain in mexico program. they are starting to process very slowly 25 people in the beginning per day, back into the united states. you know, they have said that they're going to stop expelling and they have stopped expelling children but families are still being expelled. i was on the other side of the border in tijuana on monday and there was mass confusion from the haitian population and from central american migrants waiting for quite some time. there is a lot of work to do that hasn't yet been done. it has been a slow start. the messaging continues to be

safe, fair, humane. but even on the family separation reunification task force he didn't say concretely they would allow families who had been reunited this their home country to come back but he did say all options are on the table. sounds like they're trying to leave everything open. not closed off. >> you interpreted it the same way i did. it felt like they were trying to make sure they have plenty of wiggle room is the bottom line as they try to figure out how bad this year's going to be. jacob soboroff, sir, great work. thanks for coming on and sharing with us. >> thanks, chuck. up next, dr. michael osterholm on why he believes that we're headed for another surge in coronavirus cases. i want that. eliquis. eliquis reduces stroke risk better than warfarin. and has less major bleeding than warfarin. eliquis has both. don't stop taking eliquis without talking to your doctor

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latest coronavirus facts you need to know. the u.s. is now administering an average of 2 million vaccines a day. public health experts are warning after several weeks in decline in new case numbers we may be headed towards another surge. the cdc predicted the more contagious uk strain of the virus, the 1.1.7 variant could be the most prominent strain in the united states by the end of this month and according to a pre-print study, which means it has not been vetted by a medical journal or peer reviewed, the new cases of that strain are new doubling every seven to ten days. if you want to understand the math, we'll talk to our next guest, dr. michael osterholm, he was on the covid advisory committee for president bide --t that we're plateauing but we're about to experience another surge, what will that surge look like in your opinion? >> thank you, chuck, for having me. we're talking about the tale of two cities, everybody has to acknowledge that case numbers have come down dramatically from january, the number of deaths reduced, hospitalizations reduced. everybody can say, wow, we're over it. it's unfortunate people don't

remember we've been in these surges before only to see them go back up again. this time we have something very different happening. since november this virus has been mutating in a way that causes what we say are variants of concern, mutations of concern. and the viruses fall into basically three categories, the much more infectious, meaning they transmit more, or they cause more severe illness or check in some cases defeat the antibody protection of the vaccine as a natural infection. there's one now that's circulating in the united states and growing very quickly in numbers bald b.1.1.7 as you noticed, it originated in the uk, a virus anywhere from 40% to 60% more infectious and it causes more serious illness. the european countries have been dramatically hit by this. many are still in lockdown and have been for up to two months and what happened in each of those countries was when the percentage of the b.1.1.7 went

past 50% of the all the viruses being found, there was major surges in cases. we're about at that point in this country where we expect in the next two to three weeks to see b.1.1.7 become the dominant strain. we have every reason to believe that's what happened in europe will happen here. >> what does that surge look like? is it as bad as we experienced six weeks ago when we were over 200,000 cases? >> the good news is we have more people getting vaccinated as you pointed out. the problem with that is it's only about 15% of our population and only about half of those over age 65, the group that's at highest risk for serious illness. we've got a lot of people yet to basically get infected. if you add in those already infected and have some immunity, meaning about 30%, we're still talking probably upwards of almost 55% to 60% of the population is still vulnerable,

even a year later, after this pandemic began. so in that sense there's a lot of human wood for this coronavirus forest fire to burn in the next few weeks but the good news also is our vaccines do work. is everyone who's getting vaccine right now, we know that it will be effective against this strain. but in the short term we have to understand that the next six to 12 weeks could be very, very dark with much more transmission of this virus causing more severe illness. >> so if the governor of texas or mississippi called you up and said did i make a mistake getting rid of my mask mandates, you would say? >> it's never too late to do the right thing, go back. you know, i think the whole country, though, is right here, chuck. we all want to get over with this pandemic. i understand that. i want to get over it. the problem is right now we're opening up in a way that is just an invitation for this virus to spread. we have early evidence that the spring break in florida in college students is going to be a big one this year.

that's one of the hot spots right now for this virus, and just a couple of weeks all these students are going to be where all this virus is and then they're going to be coming home. we have air flights right now at all-time high, people are going back to bars and restaurants. just know that in europe when this first began to be a problem they were already in a lockdown phase because of the previous surge that they had of non-b.1.1.7. they still had a hard time. yesterday boris johnson announced in england they're finally relaxing their lockdown that they've been in since december. schools are just coming back for the first time. they're not going to be all the way out of lockdown right now until june when finally public entities can open up. we don't even imagine that right now but it very well could be that -- what it's going to take to deal with this. >> michael, i have to say in reading about what's going on in brazil, and without getting too

much into details of brazil and their government decisions and all of that, but basically they -- they're in as bad a shape as any big country in the world but what does that mean for the rest of our attempts at getting global control under this thing, even if we're under control by the summer, brazil's lack of control means what for basically our future with covid? >> well, there's two points to this issue. number one is the fact that what we're concerned about right now is b.1.1.7. that's what's here. that's the main variant we're concerned about but there's also a variant in brazil that is called p1 and p2. it has the ability to basically evade that immune protection from our vaccines or natural infection. in northwestern brazil 2.5 million at the head waters of the amazon have been through

two disastrous episodes of covid over the course of the last year. the most recent one caused by p1 which people who had previously been infected got reinfected again. we're worried about that strain spreading around the world. if it is it's not going to happen likely until after b.1.1.7 hits us. the second thing you made a point on, though, which is huge, is that if the rest of the world's viruses are contained, the middle and low income countries and they keep having infection occurring day after day, week after week, month after month, that's where these new variants will come from, if we worry about the integrity or security of our vaccine if we're not taking care of the lower and middle income countries we're at risk of seeing new variants emerge that could challenge the very vaccine we're counting on to get us back to some new normal. >> dr. michael osterholm, appreciate your blunt perspective, something i think more people need to hear. >> thank you. up ahead, new statistics

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a 56-year-old asian-american man was attacked and knocked unconscious in new york city tuesday night as he entered the subway near chinatown. police are investigating as a hate crime. it's spurred on by xenophobic resentment and misplaced blame for covid-19. over 2,800 reports of ains-asian incidents. reporting racist verbal harassment and being spat and coughed on. joining me is democratic congresswoman california democrat judy chu, chair of the congressional asian pacific

caucus. this feels like one of those stories we're now covering more but that doesn't mean it hasn't -- this prejudice hasn't been there and hasn't been experienced. i guess i want to start there. it's clear we've got to raise more awareness of this issue. do you feel like at least in the last few months more awareness has been raised? >> there definitely has been more awareness, but we have a long way to go and what worries us is that there have been increased attacks against the elderly and more vulnerable aapis including in the last month, an 84-year-old man in san francisco who was assaulted and murdered, a 91-year-old man in oakland chinatown who was just assaulted and pushed to the floor. and in new york, in another subway incident there was an

asian-american man who was slashed in the face with a box cutter from ear to ear. and even in my district in rosemead, california, there was a man sitting at a bus stop when he was attacked and he lost part of is finger. so we know that there is a surge of these incidents happening, and we just have to work together to stop this. >> two types of rhetoric that seems to cause this. one is something we talked about in our lead-in, the growing xenophobia over covid itself simply because, you know, the virus came from china. but there is a lot of china bashing as a country. and i'm curious, congresswoman, if that kind of rhetoric you think is also contributing to this. >> oh, definitely. first of all, we do have a history in this country of discrimination against aapis but it's at times been under the

surface. what i'm saying now is that it's above the surface because we have had a president over the past year who used the term china virus, wuhan virus and kungflu continuously to describe the virus causing his followers to do the same and as a result people are conflating the virus with asian-americans. >> so what is a -- awareness is one thing. getting sort of, i think, more prominent elected officials clearly with the president's party to denounce what he's doing. what we don't hear a lot of those denouncements. you'll hear it when there's prejudice against other groups but we're not hearing it as much. why do you think it's been such a hard time to get people in the president's party to temper -- to get them to temper this. >> oh, my goodness, i think the opposite is true. within one week of taking office

president biden issued an executive order which said that this kind of anti-asian covid hate crimes needs to be condemned and also having the justice department work with the aapi community to stem these anti-asian hate crimes. and, in fact, when we heard that we immediately asked for a meeting with the u.s. justice department, and that meeting will take place next week. so there actually has been a lot of effort. we, in fact, had a press conference in which speaker pelosi came and our democratic caucus chair hakeem jeffries as well as the tri-caucus, the congressional black caucus and hispanic caucus all came out to support us in this effort. >> no, i don't -- i have no doubt support on the democratic side of the aisle. what i was asking is, i've just been surprised at how few republicans have come out and

denounced this. >> yes. >> the way that you have seen them denounce some of the hateful rhetoric against african-americans, against latinos. i've not seen the same level of this. and i'm -- frankly, it's more than a head scratcher. it's a bit -- and i'm just curious what you think drives that? >> well, i think on the local level there are republicans who are outraged by this. but certainly on the national level we see republicans that are putting their heads in the sand and, in fact, joining president trump in using the same terminology. in fact, we have a resolution on the floor in anti-asian hate crimes resolution on the floor in this last congress and there were 164 republicans that voted against it. i could not believe it. i would think this is one of those no brainers that you would

vote for, but they said it was unnecessary. >> yeah, that's what i was getting at, it's like that is something to see. that many sort of not view this as a problem perhaps when there's more law enforcement action maybe they will see it. congresswoman judy chu, democrat congresswoman from california, appreciate you coming on and sharing your perspective. >> thank you. up next, you heard it on the show yesterday, governor cuomo, not resigning. can he really ride out this storm? that's next.

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. welcome back, andrew cuomo's apology latly has done little to quiet the criticism he has been facing lately. so brendan it's clear the governor's attempt at contrition with an apology but also no responsibility, not going over well. where are we today? i mean it feels as if we're one more piano from falling off a city block and there is nothing but piano's that they're fearing. >> it could be, chuck, and yesterday's apology really fell short for many people.

you know he couched his words carefully. he said i apologize if i offended anyone. at one point he indicated that he never touched anyone inappropriately. i don't know that in today's workplace or last year's workplace that it would have been appropriate to ever make the sad advances that he made. and the laws make clear that unearthquake conduct is prohitted. it's hard for the advocates and others to see this as anything but that. >> have we learned more about the training that the governor went through? we went through the short part of that question and i thought i would like the long answer, please. >> we all would, sure. we have been asking since monday when did he take that training? did e had take it? how many times? you get a certification.

that answer fell short for many people yesterday. in addition the focus now is burning to his office's handling of this matter because they were requiring that he report this to the governor's office of employee relaces. to report last year's allegations by mrs. bennet. they did not do that. according to his chief counsel they handled it internally and transferred the alleged victim to a new job which is not how it is supposed to work in state government. >> what are we hearing from the new governor. she suddenly is either the heir apparent? the governor in waiting? does she hold the governor's fate in her hands? what's the sense of what she is thinking right now? >> she has put out a statement a

few days ago saying it is serious and it merits an investigation. i think she had to do that. but it is also worth noting there is an option short of resignation. a provision in the constitution that allows the governor to step aside temporarily. having an investigation like this hanging over you makes you unable to fulfill your duties and he could do that and let the lieutenant governor step in. that's not his way. as you saw yesterday he is not going anywhere until this investigation is complete. >> what is his relationship with albany democrats? >> strained and growing more strained by the day. people that would normally never cross the governor -- it is getting strained. and they're coming on board to

say nothing short of ez ig nation which is what he called for with eric schneiderman three or four years ago for that similar situation. >> a lot of old quotes are surfacing these days for the governor. thank you, i appreciate you coming on and sharing your expertise with us. we'll be back with more "meet the press daily" tomorrow but our time has ended for today. we will continue after this break. we will continue after this break. this is wealth. ♪ ♪ this is worth. that takes wealth. but this is worth. and that - that's actually worth more than you think.

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good afternoon, i'm katy tur. as we come on the air the capitol is a fortress, law enforcement is on high alert, and people are leaing town as there is theea