hi, everyone. it is 4:00 in the east. i'm alicia menendez in on for nicolle wallace. as the country, with new guidance imminently on what life should look like for vaccinated americans. and the economic relief bill, complete with $1400 checks for many americans. the developments coming at a cry wall point in the fight for limit at the infections, as we've seen weeks of decline, a stall at high level has experts warning pandemic fatigue and relax ace could jeopardizes the recent progress. this issues was issued today.

>> years of washington football on tv has shown me it's better to spike the football one safely in the end zone november after a couple completions. nationally are all clear -- wear a mask, not forever, but for now. it's today intersecting with a shaky picture of economic relief. , the white house chaff of staff warning, it will take until that rate to get back to where it was, that's where we stand on both fights, on razor's edge, americans have been hoping for for more than a year.

>> that nearly two thirds of the country in recent polls support. and last night, senator ron johnson, same one who has about usee peddling misinformation about the insurrection, trying to take the heat off trump supporters, forced a delay of the bill strictly for delay's sake, demanding that senate clerks read aloud all 628 pages of the bill from the floor, which took 10 hours, 43 minutes and 9 seconds of the senate's time, during a national emergency with lives at stake. for what it's worth, philip bunk from "the washington post" reports that 900 americans

likely died of coronavirus during the time it took to carry out that stunt. the republican obstruction of the economic relief, the vast majority of americans want comes as gop governors fight against the public health guidelines that top experts say are needed to prevent further drets. south dakota, florida, and mississippi, governors boasting about their relaxed conditions. dr. anthony fauci is becoming exasperated. >> pulling back on all the public health guidelines we know work, and if you look at the curve, we know it works, it just is inexplicable why you would want to pull back now. i understand the need to want to get back to normality, but you're only going to set yourself back if you just completely push aside the public health guidelines. >> progress against coronavirus, despite the efrts of certainly

republican leaders, that is where we start today. joining us dr. jha here, and pbs news hour whoa correspondent, and tim miller, former rnc spokesman, now contributor at "the bulwark." doctor, you have said the beginning of the end is upon us. i wonder how much of that is threatened by the defiance we are seeing from state leaders over mask and distancing mandates. >> fitz are first of all, it is not helpful. it's going to set us back. i'm pretty confident we'll continue to continue vaccinating people. we'll get to may where things will be meaningfully better, the question is how many more deaths and sicknesses do we want to suffer? of course my answer is we should people get

inphetted and die. let's keep measures in for another six weeks or so. >> it's hard to 00 how that will be and draft fauci urges us to take at other places. >> if you look at the very far right of the slide, as dr. walensky has said, is starting to plateau. i have blown that up in the middle of the section that's sitting in the middle of the slide. that plateau is about 60,000 to 70,000 cases a day. when you have that much viral activity in a plateau, it almost invariably means are at risk for another spike. next slide. in fact, as "the washington post" reported yesterday, many countries in europe have seen

just that. they had a decrease in cases over a six-week period, they plateaued, and now over the past week, they saw an increase in cases by 9%. something we desperately want to avoid. dr. jha, when we talk about those spikes, what do those spikes mean for our back-to-normal timeline. how much would it set us back? >> first of all, each of those spikes is additional americans infected, and anyone who gets infected die and dies in three, four weeks, is somebody who would have been vaccinated in the next month or two. we're so close to the finish line. i think we're looking towards a pretty close to normal summer, a very, very good summer, but if we do things like what texas is doing now, it will make it harder and more people will be

infected and sick. >> rather than engage with the white house and the medical community on the facts about mask wearing and social distancing, some reps are quibbling over president biden's use of neanderthal thinking. you said marsha blackburn defending neanderthal thinnings a "new york times" reader had more apt, writing that they're in the business of inventing too many for survival. tim miller, this is the debate that republicans want to have in the middle of a national crisis? >> yeah. remember a couple weeksal when the republicans were saying we can't spend the time on this impeachment, and we can't spend time liking do this domestic terrorist attack, because we need to get down to the business of the country and worry about

coronavirus. and now that we have ron johnson playing that stunned on the senate floor and most of the republican entertainment complex focusing on neanderthals and the gender of mr. potato head and all of that. this is a very un-serious party, coalition, but i think the democrats need to recognize that and play against the opponent on the field. i like the doctor's messaging about how we can have a close-to-normal summer, we just need to do this for six weeks. i would love the democrats focused on that. let's get this bill passed, do this for six weeks, ten weeks and let's get back to normal. i worry about a contrast between a chicken little message on the democratic side and this irresponsible neanderthal message from greg abbott's side. the republicans have been

completely irresponsible and unconsciousable, and the democrats have an opportunity to take advantage, and to be the party of opening up this economy and getting us back to normal. >> yamiche, so much of this is about the stakes, and i think americans understand president biden's frustration. ezra klein writes, if he gets a little sharp when politicians undermine something as simple as wearing a mask to save the lives of other people's parents, spouses and children, well -- yamiche, i don't think you need to reach too hard to understand why there is little as real to him as the possibility and pain of loss, especially when, as dr. jha said, it might be in close proximity to the beginning of the end. >> that's right. when we see from president biden in particular, a president trying to really signal to the

american people right now is not the time to let down your guard. right now is not a time to be political about this. you hear from the white house saying this covid-19 package is critical, urgent. they know once they get this money more and more people will be able to be vaccinated. but we're coming up on a year of not just the anniversary of this vaccine, rather of this virus upending our lives, we're also coming up on the time around when former president trump decided to make it a political football. this isn't just something that happened. republicans didn't just end up on one side of the virus. president trump was the main person talking about this virus disappearing, who then got out and was against masks. you now see republicans in some ways still following suit with that same things a. and you have doctors urging people not to look at this thus a political lens. that's what they're doing. we're even also seeing apart

from the politics of this, a white house having to push back and contend with educational issues. you think of the detroit mayor today, talking about possibly pushing back and declining the j&j vaccines, and the white house quickly pushed back on that in the briefing today. i asked specifically about that. they said they had a talk with the detroit mayor, that he was misunderstood. you saw the detroit mayor saying in fact he was going to be able to still be happy with the j&j vaccine, and still take it for his city. it's thought things they're still contending with, people not understanding what the vaccine is. it's people not understanding how important it is to continue to stay vigilant against this virus. you see a white house contenting with two things. it's not only the politics of this, but a big educational push. americans are tired of being inside. they're weary of staying at

home, but you also see president biden in particular trying to underscore to americans they still need to listen to scientists and hold on for a bit longer, but it's really, really tough. >> this comes back to a center question, americans will look at the efficacy rates, and i understand the desire to want to compare them apples to apples, but they were conducted at different times, different variants in the environment. if anyone sees that headline and they have reservations themselves, how should they be assessing these vaccines? >> yeah, absolutely. this has been something that's come up over and over again. the simplest way i can describe it is i have told my family and friends if you can get the j&j vaccine, get it. in my mind it's a terrific vaccine. this is an apples to oranges

comparison moderna and pfizer were not tested against the south african and brazilian variant. j&j was. no one who was infected with the virus died. i don't know what else to say beyond it's a good vaccine, i think people should take it. >> tim, there is the health piece of this crisis. there's also the economic fallout. i think there's a foil in those two stories. polls shows a strong majority of americans support the covid relief package. my question is, what is the advantage, tim, of republicans stonewalling a bill that even many republican voters clearly support. >> i think that what republicans are doing here, from a strategic

standpoint is looking back at what they think worked for them from 2008 through 2010. mitch mcconnell famously said after president obama got elected, we would let him have a successful election. he hasn't been that explicit about it this time around, but they think they get political advantage by saying no, no, no, everything they're doing is socialism, it's too woke, and that will accrue to republicans' benefit in the midterm in 2022. i think it's a risky gamble. i think the reality is it might be a practical decisionings baas the republican caucus has gotten so extreme they couldn't find ten people to vote for this anyway. what is the point of having three, four, five to vote for something whether they could get to that threshold anyway. the democrats have to know who

their opponent is on the field, and make that painful for these. these are the $1400 checks, this is the unemployment insurance going through september. we're doing this in digestible ways. i think biden will find himself in a much better position, and because of the rebound of the economy. >> yamiche, from the beginning of this, the number one thing we kept hearing is there was a high likelihood of this being an uneven recovery. the unemployment rate for black americans went up to 9.9% from 9.2%. the rate for latinos nudged lower. yamiche, even that analysis is more profound when you talk about women of color. what are you hearing from the white house about the relief

that's going to be necessary to begin addressing what we have been warned about for months would be an uneven recovery. >> the standards you just raised are important. over and over again what we see is the real issues of inequality being exposed. when you look at who is losing their job, look at who is struggling the most, when i talked to white house officials, think say that's why you hear president biden using equity when he talks about the pandemic, this covid -- las money to try to deal with this issue of black and brown people, in particular being the hardest hit from this virus did has to

be top of mind at the top of this recovery. it will be a tragedy, but up and up, black and latino people are not seeing the same gains. we know the wealth gap has been growing and growing. the people who are dying of the virus, the people losing bread winners, losing their loved ones, they are also the same people who need even more economic health. >> doctor, before i let you go, we were expecting these new cdc guidelines to come out. i wonder what you are anticipating? >> i'm anticipating some really good news, pretty clear guidance, if you've been vaccinated, you can spend time with other vaccinated people without wearing a mask. you with enjoy meals together, spend time together. there's more uncertainty getting together with unvaccinated people, but it's a guidance that

says vaccinations are our way out of this pandemic and we should start being able to feel that now. >> thank you all for getting us started. when we come back, the first arrest of a trump administration official in connection with the deadly january 6th insurrection. our next guess set the capitol will remain at risk until his republican colleagues can say the election was not stolen. can governor cuomo survive the growing scandal? the very latest on both stories hitting him today, rewriting the way he handled the pandemic, and new details from one of his sexual accusers. and activists? georgia are optimistic they can defeat the gop push to restrict voting in that state. they have the weekend to mobilize and do it. a live report for what is planned on the weekend for the state that's become the test

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the first member of the trump administration ha now been arrested in connection with the deadly riots on january 6th. according to a new complaint, frederica guillermo cline faces multiple federal charges for his involvement. klein was still employed at the state department, with top security clearance, when he rallied alongside the mob and

then assaulted officers holding a line at the capitol entrance, according to a complaint. joining us is congressman ted lieu. congressman, good tees you. klein worked in the state department until the day before biden's inauguration. what does that tell you about how widespread and undetected extremism was erg the trump administration? >> thank you, alisha, for that question. this is another data point that shows the mob were trump supporters, not people faking to be trump supporters. they were actual trump supporters who were enraged that donald trump had lost the election, and it's this ra edge that continues to fuel the political violence we're trying to guard against. i simply urge republican leaders to say one truthful sent, that the election was not stolen. >> it's absurd you have to

affirm that in the first place. what does it tell you this was a person working inside the u.s. state department? >> what's interesting, if you look at this mob, it wasn't just a particular set of people. it was people from all walks of life. people from the state department. you had people who were lawyers, who were doctors, accountants, farmers, all sorts of people. they came because the president told them to. they attacked the capitol, because the president told them to. they continue to still believe that donald trump unfairly lost the election, and we need to get people to say that was just a big lie and stop repeating it. >> your colleague, congresswoman zoe lofgren, posted a documents -- the fact that a lawmakers felt compelled to document these posts speak to the -- how safe do you feel?

this is the place where you do your work. how safe do you feel in and around the capitol? >> that's a great question. i have two responses. first, it's very clear that the former president was the ringleader who incited insurrection, but you also had a lot of people who continued to repeat the big lie. those included republican members of congress. if you look at the social media feeds, some continue to repeat the big lie even today. some of them also want to carry guns, for example, onto the house floor. for some of us, it is quite disturbing. i do trust or capitol police to make sure these rep house members don't act aggressively, but it is disturbing to have to work in a place where people want to carry guns into the workplace and have issued threatening statements in the past. >> we're looking at a 60-day extension of the national guard at the capitol. is seeing the capitol protected

like a fortress just the new normal? >> it shouldn't be. i previously served on active duty, because i believe we are an exceptional country. i never thought i would see our commander in chief incite a insurrection, and now we're spending tax player dollars to deploy -- you just have to have the republican officials tell the base the truth. >> contingentman, i want to pull up new reporting from the a.p. where a patchwork of law enforcement tried to stop the siege. two firefighters loaned to washington for the day were the only medics on the capitol steps trying to triage injured officers as they watched the angry mob swell and attack police working too -- that

should have been january 6th. i apologize. is it your sense that the threats are ongoing? >> it is. we know from chatter on sort of the dark web and public reporting that you continue to have people that, again, believe the big lie. they're angry, and they want to attack the capitol or want to attack government officials. at the same time, prior to january 6th, i think too many people in the trump administration either intentionally or unintentional did not take white supremacy seriously, did not take the white national groups seriously, and now we have to take them very seriously. >> congressman, thank you for your time. when we come back new york states lawmakers a short time ago voting to strip andrew cuomo of his executive pandemic powers. what this means for the already embattled governor. that's next. ady embattled governor that's next. em have teeth sensitivity as well as gum issues. does it worry me? absolutely.

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matters like lockdowns for local authorities. one accuser speaking out last night in a new interview, calling cuomo a, quote, took bob abuser. three women came forward with acindications. let's bring in "new york times" albany bureau chief jessica -- jessie. "new york times" writes that top aides were alarmed. a state report had come in with an account of how many nursing home residents had died in the pandemic. the number 9,000 was not public, and the governor's most senior aides wanted to keep it that way. they rewrote the report to take it out.

jessie, what more do we know at this point? >> at this hour the governor's office is pushing back in some of the assertion. the governor's office is saying basically that that data was removed because they thought it was inaccurate and it did not -- undercut the conclusion of that report, so that's been the official response from beth garvey, who is the governor's counsel. so we will see whether or not that carries water going forward. certainly the governor cannot be happy with this sort of reporting. it kind of undercuts his, you know, political message that nursing homes were actually doing better than most of the rest of the parts of the country, and it goes to a point of whether or not he is credible. >> before we talk about what it means for him. ese, federal prosecutors and the fbi are looking into the handling of that nursing home data. what are they looking for? >> well, initially those probes were launched -- at least one

was launched last year, one of which was launched after the state attorney general basically called attention to the fact of this under-reporting of nursing home deaths. it seems to be about the data and whether or not the state purposely misled either federal investigators or federal authorities as to the extend of deaths in nursing homes. that seems to be the focus of it. >> mara, about ten months ago governor cuomo was held as an example for democratic leadership, even calls for him to join the presidential race. talk to me about the juxtaposition of that moment and what we're watching unfold right now. >> well, you know, just to give a bit of context, governor cuomo has neither done everything perfect or everything terribly either. there's a lot he's gotten right, and his messaging of the

importance of wearing masks and of trusting the science and public health officials at a time when the president of the united states was opposite, it was important and valuable at the time. the problem is the governor behind the scenes, it seems, was masse missteps in some cases, and in other cases was withholding vital information from the public. i think it's important that viewers understand, it's not uncommon unfortunately for public servants and public officials to try and slow-walk the release of reports that may look bad for them or to try and play with data, but this is really something that i think goes further, in part because of the seriousness of the subject matter, which is we were talking about the number of people who had died in nursing homes, and the accusation is that, you know, the governor meddled, and

essentially had senior aides rewrite parts of a health report that public health officials were prepared to release to the public. that's something different, and i think given the seriousness of the subject matter, which is, you know, people dying in nursing homes, this really deserves an important hearing. the other thing to watch for here is what the state's legislature does. they have so far allowed the governor to kind of run the show, as he has for the past decade in new york politics. that may change, but that's something to watch for. >> jesse, talk about the governor as future, a quinnipiac poll finds that a majority of new yorkers say he shouldn't run again, but also a majority say he shouldn't resigned. mara, thank you for laying it out as clearly as you did. jesse, does the governor see a path to political recovery?

>> i've been covering the governor for eight years, and this is probably the most perilous moment he's had. he has issued an apology, he said he was sorry, embarrassed by his actions, but he stressed he didn't touch anyone inappropriately. i think he is hoping that the attorney general's report, if and when that comes, giving him a little bit of, you know, a legal leg to stand on in terms of not having broken any laws either in his own actions or the administration's response. i think he would hope that report takes a while and allows the furor to die down. there are some questions as to whether other allegations could arise. the leader of the state senate said yesterday if another credible report comes forward, she would back calling for a resignation, so that would be a serious development in this story. >> let's listen to what charlotte bennett said on cbs.

>> he is a textbook abuser. he lets his temper and his anger rule the office, but he was very sweet to me for a year in the hopes that maybe one day when he came on to me, i would think we were friends or that it was appropriate or that it was okay. >> mara, we could hear as early this afternoon who would be appointed to investigate cuomo on these claims. could cuomo change his mind on whether to resign based on those findings, do you think? >> oh, i absolutely think the governor could still change his mind, but this is a governor who, i think, will remain in office as long as he is able to be effective. so, you know, if he was to be impeached by the state legislature, that would make him -- it would make it very

hard for him to be an effective governor, but as long as he is able to remain in office, i believe he will. i think facing criminal charges -- i'm not saying he will or is, but if that were to come to pass, i think the calculation for democrats in new york would likely change. the governor has hired a criminal defense attorney, but it's too early to make anything of that. that's not unheard of in this situation. so i think we just need to wait and see. >> jesse, mara, thank you both. still to come, georgia is set to drastically change its voting laws on monday, a move that could severely impact on you easy it is to have your voice heard. we are live with what is happening. our voice heard. we are live with what is happening.

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sharpton, host of "politics nation" and president of the national action network and david plouffe, former obama campaign manager, but first we're going to blayne alexander. what can we expect on monday with this legislation? how likely are these bills to make it through to the governor's desk? and what are the latest criticisms against these efforts? >> well, alicia, there's certainly a lot of strong criticism. right now there's a number of different pieces of legislation, but they would all have a profound impact on how georgia administration its elections going forward if they were to become law. essentially critics are pointing to the timing of all of this. it was 2020, what happened here in georgia, georgia flipped blue, not once, but twice, turning over senate seats to democrats. in the wake of that what we saw was a lot of rhetoric around that time from republicans,

attacking the validity of georgia's election, and now has turned into a flurry of bills from state republican lawmakers being introduced that would impact the election. republicans say this would essentially shore up confidence, shore up security in elections, but democrats and critics are very strong, saying it would have a profound impact on black voters, the same voters who helped to flip the state through. fair fight, a group founded by stayey -- stacey abrams, i spoke to the ceo. >> we're going to promote election integrity, but what it's doing is trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist. there is no voter fraud in this country. >> reporter: it certainly is worth pointing out the bills, as they stand now, it's very unlikely what we see now is what will make its way to governor

kemp's desk, so the bills that passed house still has to go over to the other chamber. it would likely undergo revisions and changes and be some different version, but again, critics very concerned about this. this is why we're seeing a lot of protests around this and a lot of people speaking out. >> blayne alexander, thank you so much. rev, it's very clear what they are trying to do here. the think about the big lie is that it was predicated on a lot of smaller lies all along the way. if they were serious republicans about rooting out trumpism, they would grapple with those lies. instead we're seeing them doubling down. >> doubling down and trying to execute a plan, even if in the long term they don't get all of what they proposed, they get some of it t they're targeting black voters, but it's really

undermining democracy as we know it. the thing that's so troubling, and i was there last friday, and it's very troubling on on the ground, is that they're not even being in any way shy about it. they're coming straight at voting sites, polls sites, drop boxes, sunday go to the polls, so this is as clear as the old lester maddox days in georgia, and we have just got to get up and fight. this is why hr-1 and the john lewis voter protection bill, now going through the senate, having passed the house, becoming even more important. if we learned anything out of the '60s when i was a kid, you need federal law to say supersede the state laws that are embedments on our right to vote and our having access to that vote. >> david, it strikes some he that for all of the talk about republicans being in disarray,

they are very much aligned and organized when it comes to these state-level efforts to suppress the vote. what is the real threat here? not just the threat here in georgia, but it's the threat happening across the country. >> alicia, they're very aligned on this, if nothing else. even to me with covid, this is the biggest story in america right now. if these efforts at the state are successful, and we don't pass federal voting rights in washington, our democracy may be gone. so the filibuster was established to defend slavery. we need to end end it to defend our country and voting rights. it's all on the line right now. let's say we don't get rid of the filibuster and pass the voting rights act. let's say the republicans win back the senate, they'll not only get rid of the filibuster next time, they'll establish rep

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they saw what we're capable of. and they fear it. so this isn't the time to put your feet up. or to think posting hashtags and black squares is enough. because for us, this was never about one election. as always been more than a vote. it's a fight that's just getting started. >> we're back with the reverend al sharpton and david plouffe. rev, what's the impact of someone like lebron james saying, this is too important to stay on the sidelines and more broadly, i thought the messaging there was really smart tying it not just to voting but to protests we've seen all across this country. >> i think it was a brilliantly done and he's the right messenger. when i was just a kid, barely a teenager, and started getting involved in the movement, when muhammad ali and other sports figures of that time stood up, all of my contemporaries that thought i was weird getting involved in civil rights because i was from the north, they saw

it as a trendy thing to do. so, lebron brings that kind of branding to it. and the connected to the protests is in a very subtle but definitive way, letting people know why you voted. if you're upset about policing, if you're upset about the economic disparities or the health disparities, that's why we're voting. it's not about an election. it brings it to this is about you and voting solves that, so i think it was done in a very brilliant and powerful way, done by the right messenger for these times. >> david plouffe, let's talk about who we are not hearing from, the atlanta journal constitution writing, the corporate titans aren't standing in fierce opposition to the restrictive voting proposals moving through the legislature, much like they did in 2016 when they rallied against a religious liberty measure that critics blasted as discriminatory. but they aren't exactly staying silent either, which was the stance most corporate leaders took during the 2019 debate over

abortion legislation that divided georgia lawmakers. instead, the state's leading corporate interests are somewhere in between. david, where are the corporations? is it important they don't stay on the sidelines as these bills advance? >> yeah, they need to step up, so first of all, i think you're going to see more employee activism within those companies, and listen, most companies in this country responded, i think, appropriately to january 6th, outraged by it, saying they wouldn't support financially those that voted to overturn the election results. this threat is just as significant. you know, they're not being -- there may not be physical people storming the capitol but in state capitols all across the country, they're trying to topple our democracy. p.s., i think we need to see corporations and i hope to see more employee activism to help further that and accelerate that because that's what's needed. i agree with reverend sharpton, lebron james, the amazing leadership by the wnba players of the atlanta dream.

we've seen celebrities use their voice in election time and the weeks ahead of the election but to see people like this stay with it, understand that the fights continue even when it's just a legislative vote, or even when it's a vote in congress is so incredibly important, and i think that's how we get the year-round activism, which quite frankly we need because this threat that's overhanging our democracy, are we going to be a democracy or an autocracy is going to be a years if not decades-long fight and it's going to require winning every election we can but fighting 365 days a year. >> we will all have our eyes on georgia on monday. reverend al sharpton, david plouffe, thank you so much for spending time with us today. that does it for me this hour. i will be back this weekend, tomorrow, for american voices, saturday and sunday, 6:00 p.m. eastern, right after reverend app. the next "deadline white house" continues with jason johnson right after this quick break. inn right after this quick break ma. [ traffic passing by ]

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it's a little hard to listen to my republican colleagues claim that this bill is too expensive when they were willing to spend the exact same amount of money in 2017 on tax cuts for their wealthy corporate and millionaire friends. now, all of a sudden, when democrats are in charge of the white house, when a democratic majority leader sits here in the united states senate, $1.9 trillion is too much money to spend on a crisis that is taking on a daily basis three to four times as many lives as it did when we spent this money a year ago.

>> hi, everyone, i'm jason johnson, in for nicole wallace. obstruction in the face of crisis or, to quote the vision, what is obstruction but republicans persevering? that's what we're witnessing from republicans as a debate over president biden's $1.9 trillion covid-19 relief bill is currently under way in the senate. "the washington post" about yesterday's vote to just open debate on the bill, gop unity suggested no republican will vote in favor of the legislation on final passage, which will come after hours of debate and an amendment free for all that could drag into the weekend, unquote. republicans standing firm against the bill that outside of washington enjoys support from a majority of americans. according to new polling on the bill's popularity, 62% of the country supports its passage. yet we saw no republicans vote for the covid relief package in the house. and yesterday, senator ron johnson enacted a stall tactic, forcing senate clerks, mind you, not him, senate clerks to read

the 628-page bill out loud. and when you're in the middle of a deadly pandemic, time means human lives. phil bump analyzed how many were lost during johnson's little stunt. on average, nearly 2,000 people a day are dying from covid-19, the disease caused by the virus. that's a death about once every 44 seconds. the reading of the bill, completed after 10 hours 44 minutes, that means that about 880 americans likely succumbed to disease during that period. unquote. it's not just legislatively where republicans are hampering progress in the fight against covid. it's on the ground too where they defied warnings from public health officials who were cautioned against relaxing restrictions too quickly as decreases in the number of new cases have stalled. five states over the past month and a half, all with republican governors, have ended or will soon end their state's mask mandates. the two most recent to do so,

texas and mississippi, are both seeing cases decrease, but their numbers still remain high with cases and hospitalizations above the national average. when president biden called the move, quote, neanderthal thinking, texas's governor snapped back, blaming illegal immigration for the spread of the virus in his state. republicans fighting back against covid relief on two fronts is where we start this hour. david jolly, the best-dressed former republican congressman in america and an msnbc contributor is here. also with democratic strategist juanita toliver and my old classmate, professor of lbj school of public affairs at the university of texas and an msnbc contributor, so excited to talk to you all today. david jolly, i'm going to start with you now as a former member of congress. you should know a little something about polls. every single indicator that we have is that the covid relief bill is popular. 62% of americans are in favor of it. 70% of americans are in favor of it. republicans, 44% of republicans

are in favor of it, 97% of democrats are in favor of it. why are your former colleagues voting against this bill? >> reflexive partisanship. that's it. look, this will be the defining legislation of joe biden's first 100 days in office, passage and signature of a major covid relief measure, and it's not just the checks going to americans who have been displaced from the workplace or have seen diminished income. it's also significant aid to states and localities run by democrats and republicans, jason. i mean, these senators, these members of congress will go home and listen to republican county commissioners and city council members and mayors say, we need this aid because of reduced tax revenue locally to support first responders, to support firefighters, to support the infrastructure within our communities as a result of the covid economic downturn. i truly believe this is reflexive partisanship. this is more of what we now will see for four years of a joe

biden administration but the odd thing about this, jason, is to your point, it is such a popular piece of legislation. it's kind of odd that republicans have decided this is the contrast they want to draw politically with democrats. there are far more other issues that would sell better among republicans and honestly some independents if they chose to contrast republican ideology with democrats, but they're choosing a remarkably popular piece of legislation. i don't think there's anything that explains it except reflexive partisanship to the democrats. >> yeah, i don't know who stands against puppies and ice cream and a covid bill but it seems like bad political strategy. speaking of strategy, so, you know, juanita, as i sort of read in the beginning, every single second, every single minute of the day that we haven't handled covid, hundreds of people are dying, 888 people passed away during the reading of ron johnson's bill last night. what do you think is going to be the impact? just strategically, of these

kinds of numbers in this false elections and the futures. do you think this is a number that's too morbid for people to think about, or do you think it's got to become a part of our political discourse going forward, that every minute that we're not out there vaccinating people and helping people, more americans are dying? >> yeah, i think that's exactly right, jason, and the fact that biden has been empathetic in naming those deaths, naming those losses, reminding people that each of these individuals had a family, had a life that was valued, and now they've gone through a virus that spread, did not need to be this bad. that is a frame that biden has put out front that i think has gotten a lot of reaction and awareness from the public and that's why we see this ground swell of support and i think that's something that democrats are going to continuously play a drum beat on because as we have hit and exceeded 520,000 deaths and people who have lost their lives due to is this virus, we're going to see democrats beat republicans over the head with that, knowing, let's be real, that wasn't enough to get republicans to take action and

provide relief since last may when they still had control of the chamber. so, i appreciate the points of reflexive partisanship here, but i think it's absolutely going to be a detriment to republicans as we near midterms and people know that they are obstructing this. they're the ones keeping checks out of people's bank accounts right now. >> and speaking of checks, you know, i'm an equal opportunity critic, as most people know, so we cannot have this discussion without talking about kyrsten sinema, somebody who consistently throughout her career has tweeted about being a supporter of minimum wage and increasing the amount of money that workers are making and yet she was one of eight democrats that voted against including minimum wage in this covid relief bill. what on earth is this about? is this just a matter of once people get into office, they're changing their opinions? or is there some sort of philosophical or ideological reason behind this that's just three dimensional that we haven't figured out about some of these democrats? >> jason, it's about political

survival, pure and simple. and you know, as i -- someone from arizona, born and raised, i know this state painfully well and the fact that we see two democratic senators in the grand canyon state is really remarkable. sometimes i look and go, really? is this happening? just ten years ago, arizona was a state that kicked off the tea party revolution with sb1070 and, you know, governor -- i'm forgetting her name -- who was very aggressively anti-immigrant, governor jan brewer. we saw a very stronghold of conservative republicanism in arizona, and the fact that we have been able to move into the democratic column is quite a feat and it is a very tenuous position. i am not defending kyrsten sinema. i am not defending her positions but i am just providing a little bit of a zoom out of what the

political context is and how tenuous it is for democrats in that state and she's looking over her shoulder and she's not worried about necessarily someone primarying her. she is worried about the independents and the moderate republicans who she was able to get win over in the last election when she got elected against martha mcsally, so i think that is the context that we need to understand it with. i wish i could say that there is some deeper philosophical reason. it's survival. >> well, i mean, you know, survival actually is an explanation that some of us can tolerate, but it really doesn't put food on the table or allow people to pay bills, which is part of the problem. speaking of resistance against common sense, what we've seen is a strange phenomenon. i think a lot of republicans and certainly republican governors in the face of covid. if any of you have gone through the challenges of trying to lose weight, the moment you look at the scale and you've lost five

pounds, does not mean it's time to go to dunkin donuts, and yet some republican governors have decided, now that we've flatlined with covid, now we can open everything up. when we're seeing this in texas and mississippi, is this indicative of these governors saying, look e, we got to reopen the economy or is it just a manifestation of them always doubting science and not knowing how to properly lose weight? >> i literally think they're thinking, what would trump do in this scenario? because i know a lot of the republicans in my state trust him, follow him, believe him, and they're playing into that hand and let's be real. that's a very stupid question when you are responsible for protecting people who live in your state. they're absolutely acting in a criminal way, frankly, that does not see their constituents' humanity, does not see or value their lives, and it's dangerous. while it might have some political response to the republicans in their state, ultimately, it's causing harm. especially in a state where texas, where they're just getting over a storm, where thousands probably still have

boil water orders because they don't have access to clean water and now this? now this just so the governor can say at cpac, hey, my state's an oasis of freedom just like florida? like, is that it? literally, that's what he's exchanging in return for people's safety and their lives and it's very dangerous. it's reckless and honestly criminal. >> we're going to stay in texas for a minute. dr. defrancesco soto, in order to avoid discussing the power outages, in order to avoid apparently the mismanagement of covid, you now have governor abbott saying, look the reason covid is spreading so much in this state is because of immigrants. all of these diseased immigrants coming across the border. my question to you, first, is, does anyone believe this? and then second, how dangerous is this kind of rhetoric from the governor of a state to basically condemn large swaths of people as being diseased? >> well, let me put this in historical context, jason,

because i do think it is important that this is a tried and true trope to scapegoat immigrants. going back to when the irish came over and then the chinese and then the southern and eastern europeans, you always see this story about immigrants bringing disease, immigrants not being clean, the eugenics movement really flourished when we saw the waves of immigration coming, so that was not a novel line of attack that governor abbott used. however, it is very dangerous when we're seeing the attacks on immigrant communities. we're also seeing attacks on asian-american communities related to covid. there is a hate that is being festered towards these folks that are scapegoated, which, in fact, they do not have higher rates of covid than the general population. the mayor of brownsville was discussing how those folks that they're testing that are coming out of the facilities are at about 6%, which is about what the state average is here in

texas. but this is very, very dangerous. i mean, look, if you want to be an immigration restrictionist, fine, do that. knock yourself out. but don't start making these false claims, because these false claims can very easily spiral into folks getting hurt, folks getting killed, and folks who are some of our most vulnerable populations. many of these folks are asylees that have been waiting for months and months and months on the mexican side of the border because of the remain in mexico policy, so texas right now, it's at a juncture where we have seen the state battered with a power outages, we've seen our economy really faltering because of the storm, because of covid, and now these immigration attacks, it's really something that has me incredibly worried, jason. >> so, we'll switch from texas to looking at florida. david, ron desantis, somehow, miraculously, has remained nominally popular despite the

fact that he really hasn't necessarily managed covid particularly well in the state, that there have still been economic difficulties, he's pretty much treated the science the way tom brady treated the lombardi trophy and yet people down there still support him. at cpac, he was one of the top three people to be the nominee in 2024. how has ron desantis stayed so popular, at least amongst his base in florida, despite the difficulties that state is facing? >> yeah, jason, ron desantis is a clear front runner for re-election to governor of florida in '22 and i think he is the front runner for the republican nomination for the white house in 2024. in florida, if you look at it in analytical terms, you can take out the passionate concerns about some of his decisions. in this equation between balancing public health and balancing the economy, he kind of went all in on the economy. consider this is a cover who declared professional wrestling to be an essential business in the state of florida. when local school communities tried to shut down and go virtual, he prohibited them from doing that.

when municipalities, local municipalities, wanted mask mandates and wanted the ability to fine people who violated it, he prohibited that through the executive action of the governor. so he went all in on the economic side. here's where i think any politician that did that is going to have a bit of a hand up, and it will come as the nation recovers from this pandemic and breathes new life, be it post-pandemic and into the new economy, he will be able to say, look, i helped deliver this new economy. what he missed in the moment, though, is if it was proper to lean more on the economy than on public health, which i think it was improper. he never sympathized and empathized with the public health advocates, and he belittled people in florida who were concerned about the pandemic, who were worried about their family members. he said fauci's wrong, don't listen to these people, i know best as a politician. those feelings are going to carry into '22 and '24.

voters remember, whether governor abbott or desantis or others, when they were concerned about their public health, they were being belittled by the republican movement and republican leaders. that includes the governor of the state of florida. but look, elections are won around the 50% margin. ron desantis right now is a favorite for re-election, and i believe a favorite for the white house. >> so, juanita, as a strategist, i'm thinking about this for the spring, summer of 2022. new candidates are being recruited. we had people come out of the gulf war saying, i'm a gulf war veteran, that's why you should vote for me. people saying, i suffered, i lost my house, that's why you should vote for me for congress. do you think we're going to get a wave of post-pandemic candidates, people saying, hey, look, i lost three family members in the pandemic, that's why our member of congress needs to go. he or she didn't care. or do you think by next summer when we're all outside again and able to go back into movie theaters that this will fade into the background and we'll be

back to the same cleavages as before. >> there's going to be natural transition as people start to return to some degree of normal in this post-covid idea that we have yet to experience. but the fact remains, if you lost a family member, a candidate invoking that in that energy, that memory, that emotion is going to be highly effective. i think that we're going to see that across the country as people challenge vulnerable republicans who did not deliver where infection rates were ridiculously high, especially among communities of color, where death rates were ridiculously high, especially among communities of color, highlight this personal connection, highlight this deeply tragic loss, and remind people of the impact of this moment that we're living in. so, even if people are moving on, it's going to absolutely be important that candidates continue to come back to the reality and the cost of this pandemic. >> cannot have short-term memories next summer when it comes to these issues. juanita tolliver and

dr. victoria soto, thank you. when we return, investigations into the insurrection at the capitol and a courtroom tantrum from the suspected rioter who took over speaker pelosi's office who's complaining that he's not being treated fairly. that's next. plus, as congress tries to help a pandemic-stricken nation, why is the right wing hung up on dr. seuss? and in a race to vaccinate americans, why we're still falling short on the issues of access and racial inequity. "deadline white house" continues after a quick break, so don't go anywhere. r a quick break, so doo anywhere plaque psoriasis, the burning, itching. the pain. with tremfya®, adults with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis can uncover clearer skin and improve symptoms at 16 weeks. serious allergic reactions may occur. tremfya® may increase your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight them. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms or if you had a vaccine or plan to.

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the latest developments into the investigation into the capitol insurrection or january 6th are further illustrating the entitlement felt by rioters and terrorists and new links between some of the worst violence that day and former president donald trump. an fbi spokesperson tells nbc news a then state department aide appointed by trump was arrested yesterday in connection to the riots. court documents allege he's seen on video resisting and violently assaulting police officers. also yesterday, the man who allegedly broke into speaker pelosi's office and put his feet on her desk had an outburst in federal court over his continued detainment for his role in a riot aimed at overthrowing the government. according to court documents, barnett said, quote, i've been here a long time. i've been here a month, and they're going to set it for another month, and everybody else is getting out. and i don't agree with this date. it's not fair. apparently, doing a rick james

on nancy pelosi's desk is going to get you in trouble. joining us now, brittany packnett cunningham and david jolly is back. david jolly, i got to start with this. this is a quote. i've got to read this in entirety from the qanon shaman. my actions were not an attack on this country. that is incorrect. that is inaccurate entirely, chansley said. well, i sang a song and that's a part of shamanism. it's about creating positive vibrations in a sacred chamber. i also stopped people from stealing and vandalizing that sacred space in the senate, okay? i actually stopped somebody from stealing muffins out of the break room. now, david, i know about the alamo, the battle of agua in ethiopia, thermopoli with 300. i don't know about the battle of protecting muffins from the break room. but when you hear these kinds of excuses from people, does it give us any insight as to -- does this mean that these people

are more dangerous because they're this ridiculous and privileged or less dangerous because they're this incompetent? >> yeah, jason, couple things. first, props to you for the rick james invocation. second, those muffins are always a day old and a little stale. nobody was rushing to grab them, i promise you. >> exactly. >> but this scene paints a perfect analogy for us in which the domestic terrorists, those who behaved like domestic terrorists on january 6th, may have found safe harbor within trump's gop, but they're not finding it in the court of law. and within our criminal justice system, nor should they. and i think what we are seeing, you know, it's funny to laugh at the defense of some of these defendants, but let's look at what's actually happening. law enforcement is prosecuting these people in a court of law and that's where the attention should be drawn. and frankly, where republicans have failed to lead in the narrative is they should be leading if they truly say that this does not represent their party, well, then, lead in

providing law enforcement and confirm an attorney general and give them the resources to continue to root out these domestic terror cells that behave in the name of a political movement. >> along the same lines, brittany, republicans are fond of saying, oh, we had protests last summer, and that was just as violent as what happened last year and now in the state of kentucky, we've got the senate just passed new laws saying that they will arrest and can imprison protesters for just taunting police. can you tell us a little bit about the difference between what we saw on january 6th, which was a terrorist action, and what we saw last summer which was protests against the killing of unarmed black people by state sponsored agents? >> well, you know, jason, i have to start off by saying that white privilege is a hell of a drug, and when you have gotten to the place where you believe that you are entitled to life going only as you want it to and never being held accountable for your actions, this is the kind of entitlement that you get.

so, i'm not at all surprised by any of the reactions to accountability and consequences that folks are facing, but you are absolutely right. words mean things, and we shouldn't toss around words like activist and protesters to describe people who are insurrectionists and domestic terrorists. we also probably shouldn't be using the word "shaman" given that that is culturally significant for some people and this was just a rioter in a hat. but to your question, jason, there is real worry from communities of protesters and activists, racial justice advocates across the country who want to make sure that new laws like the ones that you describe, attempts to create new domestic terrorism laws and attempts to silence protests do not continue to proliferate because all that will happen is that consequences will be redirected and misdirected mostly at black, brown, and indigenous protesters. we know that what we were doing this summer was largely nonviolent and it was not at all what happened on january 6th.

the comparison, frankly, is offensive, and while it continues to be made, we are continuing to make sure that our communities are secure and are not continuing to be surveilled and harassed by law enforcement. >> i know what you did last summer, and it wasn't an insurrection and that's, i think, a distinction that needs to be understood when we're having these kinds of discussions. speaking of which, so, we have a report now, federico klein, somebody who was part of the trump administration, who has now been connected to the insurrection. now, prior to now, we've seen josh hawley and ted cruz. we've seen individuals. but this is the first time that we have seen someone that was directly appointed by donald trump who was involved in this insurrection. i ask you, david jolly, do you think this is just the first thread that we're pulling out of a wool sweater right now, or do you think that he might just be a lone bad apple and we're not going to find out this is a whole nest of trump supporters behind this attack? >> yeah, look, what we know from four years of donald trump is

there's this shadowy network of quasi-political people, the roger stones of the world and the others, who have been involved in money changing hands and organizations coming together and selling products that weren't really products and some of them got caught doing it so it wouldn't surprise me that a number of people in the trump universe were behind the organization of the january 6th event, but i'd go one step further and this is -- this is a stain on the entire gop, including elected officials, because i know we've said it time and time again, but the events that occurred on january 6th were not a surprise to anybody who was paying attention, and people warned that trump administration and republicans, you are enabling violence by continuing to support this man, and republican senators, when you failed to convict them on the first impeachment, you are enabling him to begin to act again in this way, and republican local leaders, when you look the other way and think, oh, this is funny, when republican and trump supporters think it's funny to

confront people and to engage in acts of violence, when you condone that, you create the events of january 6th. so, yes, i think there are people in trump's universe who helped organize january 6th but more importantly i think the responsibility for january 6th starts with mitch mcconnell, kevin mccarthy, go down the list of republican leaders and republican electeds, all the way to mr. trump's family as well. >> and very quickly, brittany, along those same lines, we've seen at the local level, a local prosecutor's attempt to sue black lives matter protesters and organizers blaming them for things that happened all over the city that they are not in any way connected to. now we have eric swalwell filing a lawsuit against giuliani and other trump associates saying, look, you guys should be held accountable for the violence that happened. do you think this is a slippery slope, or do you think that what eric swalwell is doing right now is a good precedent to stop these kind of violent incitements in the future? >> i think that we should pay attention to who is being held accountable here, who's actually sitting in those courtrooms and in those holding cells.

it is folks who swarmed the capitol that day. it is low-level aides and staffers. it's not actually elected officials and people who have been sitting at the height of power, who incited this violence. now, should those folks who are being held accountable be held accountable? absolutely, but they should be sitting right next to the folks who seemed perfectly content to throw them away and this is what we have to understand about the culture and system of white supremacy. it has no problem disposing of anyone and anything that becomes inconvenient to its ability to persist. the gop would much rather we argue over children's toys than focus on the blood that is actually on their hands. >> couldn't have said it better myself, david jolly, thank you so much. brittany packnett cunningham is staying with us. when we return, the right wing's misguided hang-up over dr. seuss. that's next. dr. seuss. that's next. discover the replenishing power of new pronamel mineral boost. teeth need natural minerals to keep enamel healthy, strong, and white. but every day, acidic food and drink

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while democrats in congress this week are trying to pass a relief bill to help americans who are very much in need of aid, republicans were focused on other issues. no, not the attack on our capitol or getting aid to people who need it. dr. seuss. that's right. after the estate of dr. seuss announced they would stop publishing six of his books due to racist and insensitive imagery, republicans used their words to attack the left and condemn cancel culture. republicans like congressman kevin mccarthy feigned outrage on the house floor while senator

marco rubio took to twitter and congressman jim jordan demanded a hearing to address the, quote, dangerous trend of silencing and censoring certain political speech. reminder, the decision was a decision the estate made. no one was canceled auto all but that's not stopping the right from manufacturing a crisis while the rest of the country is dealing with several real ones. joining us is the former spokesman for the house oversight committee and brittany packnett cunningham. i want to start with you. when i think of cancel culture, people who have been canceled, it seems to primarily be conservatives doing it to people on the left. i think of colin kaepernick. i think of the united states versus billie holliday. even when you hear bill maher, who really isn't a liberal, he's a libertarian, complaining about cancel culture, the last time he got canceled was 20 years ago because conservatives didn't like what he had to say. am i missing something here or

is there a history of the woke left pushing conservatives out of their jobs for political speech? >> i'm going to say something really controversial. i'm going to admit it live on air, that i, a progressive, believe in cancel culture. because i want to cancel student loan debt. it's wild to believe. i want to cancel wealth inequality, this offensively low minimum wage. i want to cancel police violence. i want to cancel all of the injustice that the republican party continues to benefit from. and it's because they benefit from it that they want to distract us with this, like you said, manufactured war on culture. they want to create that out of thin air so that we're not focused on how they are robbing us hand over fist. so, yes, i admit it, i fully believe in cancel culture, because i want to cancel the things that actually harm us. >> you heard it here, twitter. now we have to go after her. kurt, i got to ask you this because you know, look, you worked with house oversight

committee. much of this -- much of cancel culture, i also think, is bad faith, right? it's republicans trying to weaponize democratic values against them. they go after al franken then support the guy who says i'm going to grab women by their private parts in public. when they say, let's talk about cancel culture, let's talk about barbi and mr. potato head instead of talking about policy, is this just to feed their own conservative echo chamber or is this sustenance for their supporters out there in the land of voters? >> it's a little bit of both, but really, anything that republicans want to talk about, what it really illustrates is all the things that they are bending over backwards to avoid actually addressing and confronting, whether it's the 500,000-plus dead americans from covid, whether it's the insurrection of january 6th that resulted in the murder of law enforcement, whether it's social injustice and unrest and police brutality against minorities in this country, whether it's hate crimes against people who look

like me that is on the rise right now, and becoming a national crisis, these are the things that warrant national conversations, but republicans time and again have shown us that rather than address those issues, rather than become partners in the effort to try to solve these very real societal problems, they would rather talk about mr. potato head. they would rather talk about things like whether it's monuments, whether it's so-called invasions at the border, whether it's benghazi dressed up as congressional oversight, we have seen this pattern going back from when barack obama was president to where we are right now of republicans throwing anything they can out there to try to distract their constituency, their base from realizing that they have been conned by following the republican party. this party that doesn't want to give those people, the working class white americans we always hear about, they don't want to give them a $15 minimum wage. they don't want to give them common sense solutions to avoid getting a deadly virus that

would kill them. they would rather get you outraged about nonsensical things that aren't real controversies and they aren't cancel culture. they're decisions that were made by voluntary means, not by being compelled through big government or being shamed into it. the estate of dr. seuss made this decision freely, voluntarily. that's something republicans used to celebrate. we don't need big government. we can make our own choices, we believe in personal responsibility, individual freedom and liberty. and when we see that now being exercised, republicans are the ones who want to cancel that. >> a lot of people have their power canceled in texas, but you know, the republican party wants to talk about something else. you know, brittany, something else that i think is key here is for public narrative sake it's important that we make a distinction between people being held accountable and people being canceled. being held accountable is you got busted for something, you broke the law, and therefore you should go to jail. being canceled is something else entirely.

what's an example that you can think of, of where these two things are sort of being conflated? because look, when i see a republican possibly going to jail, when i see people who were protesters possibly going to jail, that's not cancel culture. that's consequences, right? >> consequences is exactly what this is. and you know, i think the most important example here is actually democracy. we are holding people accountable because we elected them to do a job. we elected them to actually serve the people and the constituents that voted for them and the ones that didn't vote for them because that's what you sign up for when you decide to be a public servant. you derive your power from the people and you are supposed to be in service of the people and their power every single day that you are in office, so being held accountable to that shouldn't make you uncomfortable. that's the job you signed up for and we should talk about what is actually cancel culture. what's gross here is that the people who are perpetuating cancel culture are republicans. there are 253 bills that have been introduced in 43 states

where members of the gop across this country are attempting to cancel our votes. that is the bedrock of democracy, the very thing they pledge allegiance to, the thing that they say we should believe in when they try to force us to stand up for their national anthem. so, let's get real about what's actually being canceled here versus what should be being canceled here. >> talking about cancel culture on my new slate podcast, kurt, we were talking about this earlier. the other thing that i think is missed in these cultural arguments is that it's being used to fund raise, that republicans, when they are not providing people with a is a dollar minimum wage, are then going to them and saying, send me $25, send me a hundred dollars to battle cancel culture. so really is this just boiling down to another way to raise money off of people in the middle of a pandemic after republicans have perhaps lost other forms of financial support? >> listen, all that we have seen from the republican party during this time of trump being the leader and the face of the party is them milking their core

constituency for tens of millions of dollars and delivering them nothing but basically a death sentence. and again, i call it the ultimate con. the very people that they pander to, the so-called working class, you know, hardworking family values, white voters, these are the people that they could never get in to the trump hotel. they could never get in to all of these great, luxurious properties that they hold all these confabs at. they make fun of these people. they are using them, and they are using them to raise money and enrich themselves. it is the ultimate grift, the republican party right now. how they message to them, get them to send them $5, $10, $15, and then go on and vote against policies that would actually help these people, you know, and they are calculating that they'll never wake up and they'll never get it and they'll keep using them like a human atm machine in perpetuity. >> look, any of these dr. seuss books you want to get, you can

go to your local library once they open up after covid. brittany packnett cunningham and kurt bardella, thank you very much for coming on with us this afternoon. when we return, the massive challenge of getting the coronavirus vaccines into people's arms, especially the most vulnerable among us. that's next. ecially the most vulnerable among us that's next. [ traffic passing by ] [ birds chirping ] mondays, right? what? i said mondays, right?

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stalling out after a few weeks of decline. the u.s. now stands at over 28 million covid-19 cases and over 523,000 deaths. with only 8.4% of the population vaccinated, the biden administration hopes that johnson & johnson's single dose vaccine will lessen vaccine inequity for vulnerable communities of color across the country already facing multiple barriers to get the vaccine. joining us now is dr. ann, professor of epidemiology at ucla fielding school of public health and director of the center for global and immigrant health. doctor, thank you so much for being with us here today. so, my first question is this. what do you think is behind the massive inequity in the race and demographics of people who have received just one dose of the vaccine, the numbers generally show that, like, 60% of the first doses have gone to white people, less than 8% have gone to latinos and african-americans. what do you think is the reason behind this? >> well, you know, i think that

this is a reflection of the structural inequity that we already have here in the united states. we know that these very same populations that are affected the most with this virus are also the populations that don't necessarily have the same access to vaccines. they don't necessarily have the ability to even take time off from work should a vaccine be available in this population, if you're an essential worker, it can be very difficult. if you don't have good access to the internet, if you don't have the kind of social support to be able to get to a vaccine clinic. this is a problem. but it's also about healthcare and access to care. i think we're seeing this across the board and this is a red flag that we've known is an issue for a very long time, but i think that this pandemic has brought us to a place where we now have to act. >> doctor, this is something that has struck me as a concern with the two-dose vaccine, before we even get to johnson & johnson. what do you think is the likelihood that large numbers of people may get that first dose

and don't come back for the second? they had to shift homes, they were unstable, their transportation had changed, they simply forgot, they couldn't reschedule. what happens if we have large swaths of people take one dose of the vaccine and they don't get around to the second? >> well, you know, that's a really good question. and what we know at this point is that one dose of vaccine with the moderna and the pfizer vaccine is not going to provide the optimal amount of protection, so we really need to do everything we can, you know, i do a lot of work in the democrat republic of congo where we worry about people being able to come back for vaccines when we have a vaccine series, and so this is something that is a problem globally. this is also why the j&j vaccine, the johnson & johnson vaccine is such a terrific option, which is a one-dose vaccine that's going to keep you out of the hospital and keep you from dying. >> one of the biggest concerns that a lot of people have and one of the things that i have observed in my experience with getting my own first vaccination and the amount of leftovers. we know with johnson & johnson,

it can be refrigerated and held longer but in other instances, how much work is being done right now in clinics and hospitals across the country to have a protocol for what to do with extras? because what i hear terrible stories of two, three, sometimes 500 moderna and pfizer moderna d pfizer vaccines basically being left by the wayside because people don't get them. is there an effort being made to come up with a system to do something with leftovers? >> well, there should be a national system for this. we should be -- we should be really thinking about how do we get these vaccines out immediately to populations that need them. there are many vulnerable populations, but there needs to be a fair way to do this. and i think this goes back to another one of these issues that we hear about people, the vaccine chaser, people that are going to go and stand in line for these extra vaccines. there's got to be a better way, a fair, equitable way that really gets these extra vaccines out to populations that need them, that are at the greatest risk. and i don't think that's been something that's been addressed

nationally or even locally. it's been a hodgepodge. we hear about people calling up and saying to students hey, we have vaccines or to cronies or to local populations that are just really easy to get to. we need to be thinking about this. we need to have a plan for this going forward. because there is no reason to be wasting vaccine, and there are a lot of people that want it. right now we have a demand that is far outstripping supply. so there is no reason any vaccine should be going to waste. >> you're exactly right. the fact that you can go county to county, state to state is a completely different process. anne rimoin, thank you so much for your time. when we return, we'll remember lives well lived. s well lived nly for what i need. 'cause i do things a bit differently. wet teddy bears! wet teddy bears here! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ we need to reduce plastic waste in the environment. that's why at america's beverage companies, our bottles are made to be re-made. not all plastic is the same.

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