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can always reach us there, @arimelber. thank you for watching, as always. joy reid is up next. ♪♪ good evening, everyone. we begin "the reidout" tonight that elections have consequences. the house is about to send the covid relief package to millions of americans and make good on their promise. if democrats hadn't won those two senate seats in georgia in
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january, this might not be happening at all. after a lot of democratic internal wrangling, the bill passed the senate over the weekend with exactly zero votes from the house. president biden said he would sign it as soon as he gets it, and the legislation could not be more urgently needed, as he indicated over the weekend. >> we took office 45 days ago. i promised the american people help was on the way. today i can say we've taken one more giant step forward in delivering on that promise, that help was on the way. >> today the white house said the $1400 checks included in the plan could start going out by the end of the month. make no mistake, this bill is massive. it stands to help millions and millions of americans who have been economically crippled by a near year-long pandemic.
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the bill spends most of the money on the american people, describing it as the most generous form of aid ever going out. more than 93% of children, 69 million, would receive benefits under the plan. the version of the bill approved by the senate isn't perfect. it changes at the income threshold. those changes were pushed in part by democratic senator joe manchin of west virginia. that could make it a tough pill to swallow by progressives in the house. even with those changes, bernie sanders called it the most significant piece of legislation to benefit working families in the modern history of this country. meanwhile, republican senators of the party that claims that it's a party of the working people but who did nothing to support the bill, or really their own constituents, said they can't address the fact that
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they didn't support it, are now just lying about the bill. >> this was a liberal wish list of liberal spending, just basically filled with -- >> they had a chance sunday morning to stop checks going to prisoners, and on that vote they declined. >> there are reparations for minority farmers that don't have to demonstrate any financial stress or any adverse effect from covid, but they'll get 120% of whatever indebtedness they have just paid for by the taxpayer. but not if you're a white farmer. >> yegads. reparations. clutch your pearls. so the senate is doing this cutthroat version for their former boss. but here's the thing. they're not donald trump. so the discount donalds in the insurrection process is really
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easy to slap down. here's dick durbin, not usually a fighting guy, giving old ted cruz the business. >> the question to answer is should taxpayer money be spent, $1400, to every illegal alien in america? this amendment provides that it should not. >> the statement from the senator of texas is just plain false. false. let me be clear. undocumented immigrants do not have social security numbers, and they do not qualify for stimulus relief checks, period! >> oops. for more i'm joined by angelo rye and charlie sykes. these people are throwing out statements that you can fast check on twitter. they both voted for the previous version, the cares act, which also allows people in prison to get checks.
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these are all just extensions of the same stuff, they're just adding more money. i wonder if the benefit they get by saying those words and having that repeated on social media and on conservative media, is that enough to justify being able to be so easily fact-checked, including maybe in ads? >> you know, joy, i would love to understand what makes these people get on the senate floor, for some of the how else floor, too, go on the house floor and just blatantly lie to the american people for a few pats on the back by randoms who don't have any allegiance to facts whatsoever. i think what's so interesting is, in ted cruz's remarks, he talks about undocumented folks getting stimulus checks but he must not know the process, and perhaps, joy, it goes back to the very idea of cancun. you know, he's so out of touch that he doesn't realize you actually have to have a social security number to get a stimulus check. let's just start there. and i think to your point, it
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can be easily fact-checked on twitter, but most importantly, what i would love to see is someone with a moral fiber, some type of conscience representing the american people in those bogus claims for the right. >> they're also not going to get a pat on the back from the boss. the person they want to cuddle them in florida is not going to cuddle them, because he does not care about the republican party. the people in the party who you would think want to stand and fight for it are like, i would rather quit. i'd rather get out of the senate and retire than stay and try to fight for the integrity of my party. the party is being left for the ted cruzes and the tom cottons. toomey is like, i got my tax cut, i'm rich, i'm out. richard burr, i'm out, rob portman, roy blunt. they're not fighting for the republican party. they're just like, let the trumpies have it.
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are we basically going to have john birch society 2.0? >> you'll get more republican senate if the democrats don't pick up those seats. the old school senators came there to legislate, to debate, to legislate, to compromise. what you're seeing now is basically the senate republicans have dominated people who want the sound bite. why does ted cruz say the things that he says, because he knows that's going to be played on fox news. that is the -- that's the mean, that's the narrative that's going to play in conservative media and the fact check won't catch up with the fact that he's waving that bloody shirt. it is trump 2.0. you have that $1.9 trillion piece of legislation and they're focusing on the bogus the aliens will get it. one big question, how is this going to be different than 2009? republicans just think that by voting no that they're going to be able to run against this big
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spending package and have big wins in the midterm election. i think the big difference is, number one, joe biden knows he's got to sell it, he's got to be out there aggressively explaining what's in the package. and number two, unlike, say, obamacare, the benefits are going to be showing up in people's bank accounts within the next few weeks. they're not going to have to wait until after the election to see what's in this bill. so i think that this is a very different political situation, and yet the ted cruzes of the world keep pretending it's 2009 all over again. >> well, you know, and angela, people like marcia gessin have been talking about the republican party is developing into this cryptofascist entity that everything the ruling party is doing is bad, bad, bad, we're going to rule against it, and the idea is to degrade people's trust in government at all and their faith in government at all. i wonder, for the democrats, if
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they're looking at a midterm where republicans are just going to be screaming about undocumented people and trying to do the brown scare and the black scare again, that criminals are getting in, and you know what i mean by criminals, right? they're going to pretend the bill doesn't exist as the check in your hand. i wonder if you feel like democrats are ready for that. not even all the democrats could agree on $15 an hour. they couldn't even get their own people to pass perhaps the most powerful thing that would reduce poverty, which would be $15 an hour. they couldn't even get that to happen. so i sense if democrats are ready for what they're about to face. >> joy, it's such a profound point, and we talk about this often, both privately and publicly, about the idea of a big tent and what it means, the types of compromises that you have to reach. there are some things that should just be based on a moral compass. and you would think, right, that republicans would be in lockstep with trying to really provide the american people relief. but as you just said, you know,
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when we started the show, you have pat toomey on, you list him as a republican who is ready to retire, but this is somebody who just was talking about black farmers receiving reparations as if he's never heard of the pickford settlement, right? there are things that make sense to make sure that people are finally made whole, and who cares if it's as a result of a pandemic or as a result of another black man or woman being killed by the police, or if it's because economically people are suffering. we just need to do the right thing. to the point, if democrats can't find the courage, and if republicans can't find the courage to reach across the aisle and do the right thing because people are suffering, i think it's more than bipartisanship that is in harm's way. it is literally the very livelihood of so many americans that don't care who was the reason that got things across the finish line. but i will tell you, thank god
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for warnock and jon ossoff who knew this particular measure around black farmers needed to go, cory booker, because when joe manchin is in the way of another joe biden, at least those two are there. thank god for special elections. >> amen. the funny thing about it, though, charlie, i don't think that these republicans think they understand trump the way they think they do, right? they were saying, trump has some bad parts but they run the party. he was the checks guy. he wasn't the tell me how i can justify you checks guy, he sent farmers checks sight unseen. you're a farmer? you want some money. here's some money, vote for me. you want money in the stimulus? take all the money. he understood that checks are good politics.
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donald trump wasn't about fiscal responsibility, he was like spend all the money. send it to the airlines, send it to people who have cruise ships, send everybody the money, to buy their votes. they think they're doing trumpism, but they're not. >> they don't quite get that. remember when donald trump was trying to push for the $2,000 check right before the election and didn't get anywhere with that. i always think it's interesting, you've got republicans in the room saying, you keep talking about socialism. define socialism and when donald trump was sending all the checks to the farmers, does that qualify as socialism? i would like a definition. you mentioned that interview with lindsey graham where he's talking about the magic of donald trump, and he says he's a combination of jesse helms, ronald reagan and p.t. barnum, which was a weird thing to say because jesse helms had actually tried to filibuster the martin
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luther king jr. holiday, p.k. -- p.t. barnum was a bah, humbug. you're comparing trump to a bigot of politics, a circus ringleader and ronald reagan. and yet somehow what lindsey graham thinks, there is some magic in all of that? no, i don't think he quite gets it. >> or he does get it. and he was being accurate. >> maybe he was. i was actually surprised he didn't mention george wallace at a certain point. >> if he probably at the last second said, let me leave out wallace so donald trump doesn't figure out what i'm saying because he's blinking through the tv. he knows exactly what he's saying. he's a southern senator. >> but why does he think it's magic? >> i'm telling you, i think he knew exactly what he was saying.
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i think angela agrees with me. angela rye, charlie sykes, thank you so much. the george floyd murder trial. george floyd's brother joins me on the fight for justice. plus, ted cruz is now an outcast at his own alma mater. he was stripped of his public service award because of his failure to overturn the election. there is an uproar over documented immigrants getting covid relief checks. believe it or not, we found someone worse! i have a lot to say about meghan and harry's interview with oprah. "the reidout" after this. oprah "the reidout" after this will help her explore some different scenarios, like saving more every month.
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george floyd, started in minneapolis today. chauvin who infamously was seen kneeling on floyd's neck for 8 minutes 20 seconds was charged with murder. jury selection was supposed to start today but got pushed back. prosecutors are also trying to charge him with third-degree murder. george floyd protesters marched across america against police brutality. the questionnaire given to possible jurors includes questions on whether they've ever watched or discussed george floyd's death or if they participated in any marches against police brutality. it goes so far as to ask, did you carry a sign? what did it say? joining me now is george floyd's brother, and ben crump, attorney for the floyd family. thank you both for being here. mr. floyd, i want to ask you about that, the way this jury selection is going to proceed.
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what do you make of the fact they are trying to identify, or at least weed out, people who protested the death of your brother? >> basically, i really just think it's ridiculous because i think that everybody should have the opportunity to speak up on what they believe in, but i understand the process of elimination, so it's their job to do what they need to do, and it's my job to do what i have to do and also my team. >> and, ben, we've been through this. i don't even want to count them at this point. we've been doing this since 2006 when i first met you on these kinds of cases. i am very cynical at this point as to whether the criminal justice system is even prepared to deal with these kinds of situations, but i want to get your take. you now have this third-degree murder charge taken off because generally third-degree murder has been about you spray bullets
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everywhere in the crowd and someone gets hurt or you do something that basically could result in death but endangers lots of people and one person died. so that was taken off. do you think that's a good thing, or do you think that taking any charges off the table makes it such a narrow lane to go down for conviction that it makes conviction less likely? >> you know, joy, i am of the opinion, like you, it is very difficult to have a police convicted for killing an unarmed black person in america. we saw any number of cases where they did not hold them accountable. that's why i agree with attorney general keith ellison, the first african-american attorney general in the state of minnesota. no, we want to make sure we have every charge possible presented to the jury to make sure that derek chauvin is held criminally liable for killing george floyd. just like they do in our community, joy. you know, they threw the whole book at us.
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they have every charge included there so if the jury thinks it's something else, we get convicted on that. we don't want anything different than if the roles had been reversed and george floyd had done this to derek chauvin. how many charges do you think they would have had on george? >> having been on a grand jury, they would charge him with about ten things to make sure you get him on something. philonise, is the family prepared for a black man who killed a man or child and then just walked away? it's like if they walked up to a child and shot him. that couldn't end up in a conviction. the odds are so low that he will be convicted.
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is the family emotionally prepared for that outcome, or do you believe a conviction is possible? >> i believe that a conviction is possible. we want justice just like everybody else who was marching out in the streets, because just look at the video. if you look at the video, you can see that was wrong. it was a modern day lynching in broad daylight. he had his knee on my brother's back for 8 minutes and 46 seconds. nobody tried to render aid. an emt worker tried and they pushed him back, like, no. it's like he intended to do that. and my brother lay there with his face down in a prone position, blood dripping out of his nose and he was saying that he couldn't breathe. and the officer didn't care. nobody cared. it was a tragedy that we shouldn't have had, and that's the reason that this is a global movement and people are marching all around the world, because we
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don't want this to happen anymore. we're tired of seeing the same thing. >> i want to ask you both, because there is a law that's named after your brother, mr. floyd. it's called the george floyd justice and policing act. only one republican voted for it in the house by mistake and then took it back and said, oops, i accidentally pushed yes when i meant no, so no republican supports it. it has a tough road to go in the senate. do you support it? because there is another version of this bill that would cut police funding way down, if not totally. this bill does ban the chokehold. it overhauls qualified immunity and it does other things i've seen you say in interviews. do you support the bill as it is, the george floyd act? >> yes, i support the george floyd act. it's something that we needed in this nation. it has been a civil rights
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movement all the way back. you can see in the 1950s and 1960s, everybody was trying to prevent what happened to my brother, because dr. king said it a long time ago. he had a dream that all men and women, boys and girls, could join hands together around this world. when my brother was killed, it started happening. you see people walking in the streets, holding hands, no matter what race, caucasian, african-american, chinese, asian, everybody was all during the covid pandemic and people were risking their life for what was right. that touched me. and the protesters that did that, hey, they ought to be having their faces on mt. rushmore and things like that, because they did what they had to do. they got out and they participated in something that we should have ignored a long
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time ago. change is now. >> indeed. i don't think anybody can argue about that. ben, it's already starting. we've seen this act before. the reports they're putting out that, well, there were drugs found in the car, trying to sort of bring up other reasons, other sort of excuses for what happened to george floyd. and what looks like an attempt to attack his character. what can be done about that? is that something that can be kept out of this trial? >> unfortunately, joy, they are given some latitude to talk about anything that may have contributed to the death of george floyd. but we have to remember two things, joy. george floyd was walking, talking, breathing just fine until derek chauvin put his knee on his neck for 8 minutes and 46 seconds. i learned in law school that literally if you got the facts
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on your side, you argue the facts. when you don't have the facts on your side, you attack the character of your opponent in the hopes that it will be a distraction to keep people not focused on the facts where we are focused on that video and that video tells us everything we need to get a conviction on these officers liable and try to change this excessive use of force of black people. i mean, over and over again, joy reid. we've done it since 2006. martin lee anderson. on and on and on. tamir rice, michael brown. how many? >> yeah. it is a question that has no answer, my friend. and there will be video in the courtroom and everyone will be able to see it. if they do try to attack george
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floyd's character, they'll have to do it on camera, we'll all get to see it, and hopefully there will be accountability. philonise floyd, thank you for appearing. ben crump, appreciate you. failures during the capitol insurrection calls for more police, more fencing and better integrated intelligence. will addressing these concerns keep members of congress safe? we'll be right back. f congr? we'll be right back. ♪♪ ♪♪ comfort in the extreme. the lincoln family of luxury suvs.
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else known for helping after hurricane katrina. it was where fema had failed. now he says that the capitol police were not pastured to track, assess, plan against or respond to the plethora of threats, including domestic threats. among other things, he requests a quick reaction force, improved decision making process, increased staffing and intelligence, authority to call the national guard, mobile fencing and mounted police units. of course, as nbc reports, enacting the recommendations would mean boosting the capitol police budget, which is an already sizeable $460 million a
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year. i'm sure they're wondering why should they get more money if they did such a poor job responding the first time around. what do you think of that? >> thank you for having me on. the money is coupled with changes in training, changes of operational command and intelligence gathering. it's not just the money, it's what's behind the money. that dollar amount was actually a range of different options. they presented to us a range of different options. clearly we were not ready to respond to a january 6 style attack and there were many deficiencies that were identified by the task force. i actually feel better coming out of that briefing than i felt going into it, because they did look at the strategic level deficiencies, the tactical deficiencies. the question is are we going to do that to protect our
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democracy? >> they weren't running toward the attack, they were running away from it with y'all. what did you make of this attack on general honore? you yourself are a former army ranger. i think you were 82nd airborne. you know what generals sound like. they're not dainty in the way he talked. they're trying to criticize josh hawley saying this piece of blank with his law degree should be disbarred asap. what he was talking about is the president had sent out a tweet calling for hawley to be expelled because josh hawley supported the insurrection. he gave the fist up to the insurrectionists. he voted to overturn the election. he actually was on the wrong side. honore wasn't attacking him politically, he was attacking
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him because of that. and yet majority leader kevin mccarthy went after him yesterday, saying, his partisan bias calls into question the rationality of appointing him to lead such an important security review. it also raises the unacceptable possibility that the speaker desired a certain result, turning the capitol into a fortress. >> he doesn't even want to acknowledge that january 6 occurred. he's trying to move past it, trying to sweep it under the rug. he doesn't want anything brought out about this, and then the changes would mean something terrible happened, because it did. at the end of the day, i'm not going to accept recommendations by general honore or any general just because they're a general. i served four terms in iraq, and
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i know a few things about the way missions have been led. i hold generals accountable all the time as a member of the armed services committee, so being a general doesn't mean you're right, but being right means you're right. this report actually had the elements i was looking for. i looked at things in detail. there was actually a much more detailed classified report that's many times this length that i'm going to look at this week. i think we're on the right track, and the bottom line is nobody wants a january 6 attack or any attack to happen again. and to prevent that from happening again, changes have to be made. >> and do you worry at all that, you know, this sounds like a further militarization of the process of this particular police department that answers only to congress, and generally the militarization of police has been bad. it's been bad for peace protesters, it's been bad for black lives matter, it's been bad for non-white protesters. it's generally been used against people on the side of asking for more rights and more protection
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of their rights, not really for -- this was the first time we saw the far right really being discussed when it comes to protect their ability to gather. do you worry that if the capitol police get more power and more militaristic type power, that when the other side gets involved, it will be used for killing people? >> i supported amendments that prevented that happening to local law enforcements around the country. if this is done right, it actually means less militarization. it actually means less power, and it means we're not doing things in an ad hoc system-by-system basis. we have a very clear command structure, there are rules and guidelines that govern that, and there are things put in place, barriers, electronic fences,
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censors, automatic locks that prevent these things from happening in the first instance. if it's done right, it actually means you're safer, you're less militarized and we prevent force from ever being used. >> jason crow from my neck of the woods out in colorado, thank you for your time. >> cheers, joy. my thoughts on oprah's bomb interview with prince harry and meghan markle. but first it's time for the absolute worst. you are not going to want to miss it. stay with us. you are not going to want to miss it. stay with us ♪ hey now, you're a rock star, get the show on, get paid ♪ ♪ and all that glitters is gold ♪ get 5 boneless wings for $1 with any handcrafted burger. only at applebee's. to support a strong immune system, your body needs routine. with any handcrafted burger. centrum helps your immune defenses every day, with vitamin c, d and zinc.
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if you see wires down, treat them all as if they're hot and energized. stay away from any downed wire, call 911, and call pg&e right after so we can both respond out and keep the public safe. well, the light at the end of the proverbial pandemic tunnel just got a little bit brighter with the cdc administering 5.3 million vaccines over the weekend, meaning there are now 60 million
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people who have received one or both doses of a vaccine in the united states. of course, none of this means we are out of the pandemic. the u.s. now faces a fourth surge as the variants spread. and the mask movement has something to do with that. here are protesters attending a mask burning in boise, idaho. that state doesn't even have a mask mandate. and children who will grow up to be adults are encouraged to build brand new, unused ppe. adorable. it's a movement emboldened by public officials responding to public interests. yet in doing so, they are putting small businesses solely in charge of their city. texas governor dick abbott
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-- greg abbott lifted the mask mandate, by the way. they asked or plead people just to abide by their company mask policies. >> it's a hoax. i'm not going to wear a mask. this is america and you don't have to do what they say. >> count your days! count your days! bully! this is giving you the right to be a bully? because you're brainwashed? i'm a scientist. there is no corona! are you trying to kill me? >> when a mexican restaurant in houston announced it would continue to require masks, people sent them hateful messages, threatening to send
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complaints to i.c.e. suddenly it's about personal freedom. personal freedom for who? are these same protesters blazing the capitol for women and their right to choose? does the phrase "i can't breathe with a mask under my chin" the same as george floyd who couldn't breathe? i think we know the answer to that. they will fight for that right even if it kills you. and when you're in, we know all too well it could absolutely kill you. that's why anti-mask bullies are the absolute worst. more "reidout" after the break. t more "reidout" after the break how much you'll need, and build a straightforward plan to generate income, even when you're not working. a plan that gives you the chance to grow your savings
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all of america is talking about. oprah winfrey's blockbuster interview with meghan and harry. they heard them detail their nearly four-year struggle with exclusion, racism and the royal family's rejidty. >> in those months when i was pregnant, all around this same time, so we have in tandem the conversation of he won't be given security, not going to be given a title, and also, concerns and conversations about how dark his skin might be when he's born. >> what? meghan shared with us that there was a conversation with you about archie's skin tone. what was that conversation? >> that conversation i am never going to share. but at the time, at the time it
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was awkward. i was a bit shocked. >> can you tell us what the question was? >> no. i'm not comfortable with sharing that. >> it was a deeply perm and shocking interview that though frankly not at all surprising to people of color who watched it and triggered a massive royal scandal not seen since the mid-'90s with harry's mother princess die yeah in. >> what i was seeing is history repeating itself or far more dangerous because then you add race in and social media and i'm talking about my mother. >> in a right on cue, the very tabloids torturing meghan markle since the wedding trying to undermine the claims and presenting the queen as the real victim in all of this. i'm loyally by commentator and political commentator. lola, as i watched that
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interview, again i was not surprised by the racism because she is attacked 'and attacked in the tabloids and every black woman knows what it is to be thrown down as the angry woman, the bully. william's wife is the poor victim of this vicious black woman bullying her and hurting her. it was easy to see how this was coming and you can see where they were coming from. i was not surprised by it. it is sad to see that diana's youngest and clearly took on his mother's e thos in terms of openness on issues of race, he was open already and then he just really realized and got a lesson in racism from dating her but i wonder what you make of the fact that it really took them to leave the country, to get physically away from the commonwealth, had to leave
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everything and then set themselves up in the united states in order to be even speak that truth and then when the truth came out it was literally what every black woman feems like they would face in that situation. >> i mean, i knew that she would be a modernizing force but change is sometimes welcomed in the beginning but not welcomed when it starts to create change. right? so meghan's presence as a woman of color in a royal family, let's really think about this. it is on an outdated model, the model of people who are basically superior by virtue of birth, blood, linage and been in existence for hundreds of years. will they want to change their ways because one person has come in and shown a new face?
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she was a new face. you know? interesting for a while until that started to create ripples within the family and yes, she is a black woman and not just a token black woman. a woman with a voice and they had to move away. even the idea of the commonwealth, the commonwealth is countries subjects colonial subjects of the uk, of england. by itself that tells you a lot. there's no way that this -- i anticipated that they would have ended up moving. there's no way this kind of change to happen within the royal family without there being something dramatic and explosive that happened afterwards. >> right. martin, it is a commonwealth and to talk about lineage queen charlotte is in the lineage and whether or not the fact that she also was of a mixed race with black heritage, whether that was sort of tried to be subordinated and the german side.
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they made it windsor to degermanize themselves and separate themselves from the germanic royal families including in russia where the people took out the royal family, took out the czar which was king george's like first cousin so they have all of these sort of anxieties and speak specifically to the ones that lo ka talked about. the fact that the -- that they are this sort of colonial empire that took over all of the black and brown countries and first you have diana to bonds with those people. they hate her. then you have meghan who even more can in some ways bond with those people and has the same magic with those people and they hate her. >> that's exactly right. the thing is one likes to think of merry old england and sweet people and think of the lovely philosophy of the beatles, all you need is love, but you
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scratch the surface in britain and you find something write ugly. in june 2016, that's the month of harry met meghan and of brexit, the referendum when the british people chose in the infinite stupidity to leigh europe that had been a force for peace and economic stability. and that was the canary in the coal mine that told us that trump was coming and typical of the british because in the same way the people that despised immigrants and talk of fehr noes, the white english have this attitude of foreigners, johnny foreigner they say. i don't want that johnny foreigner her. what is meghan? american. strike one. two, an actress. then she's divorced married to a jew. progressive views. her mother is black. that is it.
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it's no way going to last. she is the e equivalent lentd of yoko ono on steroids. john lennon left the english rose wife for an asian woman. this is betrayal to the white supremacists who love to think themselves so superior. so meghan was on a downward slope from the moment that she entered into that family. >> yeah, well, you know, lola, the future queen is also a divorcee and about to putt a crown on her and don't want to give a title to archie because he's a one black kid but to come back to you for a moment, lola, they don't like johnny foreigner but they got janey foreigners and put on american people that basically troll meghan on twitter and willing to putt them on and use that for the tabloids to attack her again and so they didn't have a problem going outside of the quite to people that don't cover the royal family to say if you will attack
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her we'll put you on and then use it back in the tabloids and attack her again. >> meghan seems to me to be the scapegoat so there's something that harry alluded to in the interview where oprah asked him about the relationship between the royal family and the tabloids and he was saying to the royal family call them off like get the dogs off the back and the royal family didn't want to do that because the relationship is that the royal family depends on the perception of the public to keep themselves alive. the reality is that the royal family doesn't need to exist in its current form and only exists in the current form because people believe in it and when people stop believing in it, there could be no royal family and why i think meghan is so threatening because, one, she is a threat to the idea of supremacist, racial supremacy, you know? country supremacy. she could destroy the whole idea of what a royal family stand for
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and i think that's what they see and so afraid of. >> even if she is over here, i'm sorry, y'all, she will be a superstar. they are stars. loyola, martin, that's tonight's "reidout." tonight. >> i promised help was on the way. >> biden went big and the democrats delivered. >> it's going to make a big difference in so many lives in this country. >> tonight, the transformational relief plan now on a glide path to passage. and on the state of a republican party that didn't lift a finger for an american rescue. that and big news on a covid treatment, new cdc guidance for people vaccinated. "all in" starts right now. good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. it
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