a very good day to all of you here from msnbc world headquarters in new york. we've rounded the top of the hour, 1:00 p.m. out east and 10:00 a.m. out west. we're glad you're with us and we begin this hour with breaking news. this is from louisville where family and activists are marking one year since the tragic death of that woman right there, breonna taylor. there's a march set to begin at any moment. a year ago today taylor was shot and killed during a botched police raid at her apartment. no officers were charged. certainly that sparked nationwide protests. taylor's mom, tamika palmer,

opened up in an emotional interview on msnbc this morning about a settlement with the city. >> the money means absolutely nothing. it doesn't help me get over the fact of what happened. breonna doesn't benefit from that. it does nothing for us. >> just today the louisville fbi said they made significant process in the investigation and their team is actively investigating all aspects of her death. let's go to my colleague msnbc's antonia hylton. a big welcome to you. sounds like they're getting ready there. what's going on? >> hi, alex, that's right, it is a somber and also at times angry mood here. people very been streaming in, getting ready to pay respects to breonna taylor's family and honor her memory. her mother, tamika palmer, actually just arrived here a few moments ago. we're hearing from people who plan to speak, recite potentials

and ultimately march around. you will hear calls for accountability and transparency. her mother is calling on the attorney general here in louisville to pick up the mantel and try to charge the officers involved that night with her killing. she also recently wrote a letter to president biden, asking him for additional assistance and attention on to this case. we consistently hear from residents and the family here that while there have been some positive reforms passed in the year since she died, ultimately they feel like not enough has been done. i want you to hear from hannah drake. she's a poet and activist who is going to speak here later today. we talk about this question of accountability and whether the reforms made really address the problems in this city. take a listen to this. >> i don't know how that feels but i know for me, it's been hard just being here in the city and i don't know if any of the reforms -- how do you reform

shooting a 26-year-old black woman? p how do you reform putting your knee on the neck of a black man for almost ten minutes. how do you reform that? that's not a legislation issue, that's a heart issue we're dealing with. >> you can hear the hurt there in hannah's voice. actually hannah drake's daughter is also named breonna and she's just one year younger than breonna taylor was when she died. so this case is so personal to her. as you talk to folks here in the crowd, it's frankly personal to everyone. this case continues to resonate and cause immediate visceral and emotion right here on the ground. people have at times danced and cried just a moment later, alex, and that's the movement we expect to see throughout the rest of the day. >> it's a long year for those family and, frankly, all of the residents in louisville. i know once the march is under way, we will come back and

cover it with your help. appreciate that and more help coming as president biden's rescue plan is being put into action. $1,400 relief checks are starting to appear in everyone's banking thes. the house ways and means committee said 85% of the people could receive payments as soon as this weekend. president biden and vice president harris are geefring up gearing up to hit the road and ayanna pressley telling msnbc earlier, while the bill is a major lifeline for those hit hardest, the work can't stop there. >> if we really want to rescue america, we have much more work to do which is why i'm going to continue to fight for $15 minimum wage. i'm also going to continue to fight for paid leave, $2,000 recurring survival checks during the duration of this crisis. so our work is not done but this is a mass instep forward to safely open schools, businesses

and support our families who have been hurting. meanwhile, we're getting new insight into the scope of the capitol investigation. the doj saying it can be the largest probe in u.s. history. 900 search warrants have been executed, almost all 50 states and washington, d.c., 320 people facing charges and charges expected still against about 100 more people. the doj telling a federal judge it needs more time before putting anyone on trial because there's so much evidence. as the national guard deployment is extended in d.c., congressman seth moulton a bit earlier stressing to me how necessary it is. >> i can't discuss intelligence on the air but i can tell you that there's certainly an ongoing threat and all of us, certainly all of us on the hoss armed services committee want to see the truth only used when it is absolutely necessary. sadly right now, it's still necessary. but i certainly hope we can reduce the number and do so soon. >> from there now to capitol

hill, democrats are taking victory lap as americans are beginning to receive those payments. nbc's amanda goldman is joining me now with the very latest. just how fast is congress going to be able to get these checks out to people? when they say this weekend, it's saturday. are folks going to be getting those checks today? >> alex, there's some people that have already seen that direct deposit come into their bank accounts. the irs has said the fist wave of these direct payments of the $1,400 stimulus checks will likely be coming in as the direct deposit for those who opted into it. other rounds in the coming weeks will be likely physical checks and debit card payments we've seen come out with other stimulus checks in the past. as you note, what this $1.9 trillion package being passed and signed into law by president biden on thursday, that quick turnaround is exactly what we are seeing with the house, ways and means committee really saying they were expecting potentially up to 85% of households to begin receiving that payment. just to breakdown again what you see here, it's $1,400 direct

stimulus payments to individuals making up to $75,000 and then for those filing jointly, that $2,800 for those couples making up to $150,000, is with $1,400 as a child tax credit. looking to see when the checks hit bank accounts. i know friends have been waiting and texting to see when this will happen and posting on social media immediately when it does. but this is coming as relief for millions of americans who need this money right now. >> definitely. let me ask you about the fencing that surround capitol hill now and reaction to that. a lot of members of congress are pushing back to some degree. specifically let's reference senator mitch mcconnell, who's calling all of these security measures an overreaction. what's been the reaction to that? >> alex, it's so interesting because there have been an increasingly bipartisan pressure to address the capitol hill complex and amount of security and national guards personnel we see here now as well as razor wire fencing that continues to surround the entire complex. we are starting to see from

people within the house, ways -- excuse me, house arms services committee, ranking democrats, say they think it's gone too far and they're slowly looking to scale that back and top senate republicans on various committees sending a letter to the acting capitol police chief say they want it to be drawn back. as you hear even in your conversation the last hour with seth moulton pushing back on what snort minority leader mitch mcconnell saying he feels it's overdone and senator moulton saying he feels it's still necessary. his words were so strong. let's take a listen. >> what a joke, he's saying we are overestimating the threat. this is a guy who underestimated donald trump who coward before him, unwilling to stand up to him for years and that's why this happened. that's why there are militias that are threatening the capitol because of donald trump is calling them to do it and mitch mcconnell and his republican cronies are too afraid to stop

that threat. >> so strong words there from moulton but we are seeing that increase bipartisan support for wanting to scale things down by way of the national guard personnel here. but keep in mind it comes as defense secretary lloyd austin extended the troops around washington, d.c. for an additional two months. just to note, there's a small protest going outside beyond the barriers of the capitol hill complex, where so far we've seen congresswoman eleanor holmes norton coming up to speak in favor of removing the barbed wire fencing we've seen, saying it doesn't set the right tone for our community here in washington, d.c. >> it's something with bipartisan agreement. a lot of lawmakers want to see that brought down. amanda goldman, thank you so much. joining us now is democratic senator tina smith. senator smith, thank you very much for joining me. i appreciate your time, ma'am. let's first talk about the good news, coronavirus relief checks, american rescue plan, $1,400

coming into the bank accounts of so many people, to include your constituents as well. tell me what the reaction has been in your community and where you think the money will be put, where it's needed the most? >> thank you very much, alex. i have been talking with people, all at the end of this week and there's such a sense of palpable relief help is on the way. and washington and congress and the biden/harris administration are listening to people and understanding what they are coping with. so those checks coming in the mail as soon as today is just a really big relief and another thing i'm hearing from people, there are a lot of benefits in this big bill that are not as widely known. yesterday i was in touch with a member, retiree from the -- retiree who has just found out that his pension through a multi payer retention plan, will be made whole and saved. that was part of our bill and huge relief. he was literally choking back tears as he was thanking us for

getting it done. there's great help for people in this bill. >> i know that's a sentiment shared across the country. let me ask you about the fact that not one republican voted for the american rescue plan. but you have one of your colleagues, republican senator from mississippi, we have roger wicker, voting, of course, against the bill but now touting all of its benefits, doing that on twitter and elsewhere. that seems to be the height of hypocrisy. what do you make of that? >> i joked about this. i said this bill is so bipartisan that even people who voted against it are supporting it. it is i think just sort of laughable. it is a bipartisan bill. the only thing that didn't happen is republicans inside the united states senate didn't vote for it. but i'm here to tell you around minnesota and red counties and blue counties and in between, people like this bill, they know it was needed and glad they got it done and feel like finally washington is listening to them

and is on their side. it is a little laughable, isn't it? >> yeah. let's talk about covid relief, passed through reconciliation but there's other legislation that stands to be passed ahead. it will be passed by the house, which then faces a much bigger uphill battle in the senate. i know that you, ma'am, recently called for eliminating the filibuster saying it's what we need to move this country forward. but what do you make of the argument that filibuster protects the minority parties' rights against the majority? i mean, at some point you can guarantee in the future that the republicans will be back in power in the senate. that's the way the pendulum swings. so by getting rid of the filibuster now, does that hamstring democrats potentially in the future? is that what this debate about? >> i think this debate is who decides, whether you believe a majority should decide or whether you believe a minority should dictate what happens. when i first came to the senate, i thought, yes, we should protect the filibuster. i have images of "mr. smith goes

to washington" fighting for justice on the floor of the united states senate. then i realized, that not what's happening here. what's happening is the minority are stopping progress on so many pieces of legislation that americans, a majority of americans, really want. >> let's turn to the attack on the capitol. i want to play something that your colleague senator ron johnson said and he's facing big-time backlash for saying this. there are cries of racism about what he said. let's take a listen together. >> i'm also criticized because i made the comment that on january 6th, i never felt threatened, because i didn't. mainly because i knew even though those thousands of people, they were marching the capitol were trying to pressure people like me to vote the way they wanted me to vote, i knew those were people that love this country, that truly respect law enforcement, would never do anything to break the law, and

so i wasn't concerned. joe, this could get me in trouble, had the tables been turned and president trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of black lives matter and antifa protesters, i might have been a little concerned. >> i don't know, i think he might need to be concerned about pretty much the entire content of that soundbite right there. do you think any republicans will call him out? >> that's the way it should be. what he has just said there is incredible. he was also parroting these ridiculous conspiracy theories in other places where somehow what was behind what happened on january 6th was sort of people masquerading as trump supporters. that crowd was a violent crowd that was attempting to overturn our election. police officers died because of what happened on that day. it's inconceivable to me a member of congress would say these are peace-loving american patriots when they were actually trying to overturn a free and

fair election. what we should see here is his colleagues calling him out but i'm afraid that's just not going to happen. >> it is extraordinary. in fact, i just have to read it again. "i knew those people were people that loved this country that truly respect law enforcement, would never do anything to break a law." it's almost like he didn't even see what happened on january 6th. >> did he not see? did he not see those protesters like beating on the capitol police? did he not see the damage that was done? i mean, it's like an alternate reality. this is the problem now with what's happening in the republican party because a democracy needs two strong parties that know how to win and know how to lose. when you hear things like that, you just wonder what's next for this? >> yeah. let's talk about that which is going on, you're well familiar with the jury selection under way for the former minneapolis police officer derek chauvin's trial, of course, in the death of george floyd. what do you make of the jurors selected so far? do you have faith the jury in such a high-profile case will

indeed be able to be fair and impartial? >> i think here in my hometown we're really reliving the trauma of the murder of george floyd right now. i'm hopeful -- and i think i hear in the conversations that i'm having with people here, kind of a question of will this be different? will we see justice delivered in this trial? and also a real fear this won't be the first time, we will not actually get justice. i am also hearing from people in this community a lot of faith and confidence in attorney general keith ellison, who is leading the prosecution. i think that gives people the sense maybe we'll be able to see a different outcome than we have seen before in minneapolis or around the country when we have never seen here a white police officer convicts for the killing of a black person in the line of

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knowledge of the woman's story, and said he groped a young woman's staffer at the mansion when he asked for help when thinks cell phone. more allegations levied yesterday in "new york" magazine, a journalist saying cuomo's hands were on her arms, shoulders, small of her back and waist. cuomo is vehemently denying these allegations. there was a press call he was on yesterday before senators schumer and gillibrand released their joint statement and he was defiant. he said he wasn't going to bow down to cancel culture, and he said people have different motivations for coming forward with allegations. to that point one of his accusers, lindsey boylan, said cuomo not only made inappropriate comments to her but kissed her on the lips, tweeted this. he's calling up hate and speculation to be directed to his accusers. all harm and hate directed at the women fits squarely on new york governor cuomo. nbc news heard from various sources the reason why we saw so many lawmakers yesterday for

resignation because he had been reaching a tipping point or taking the temperature the last few weeks and ultimately feel governor cuomo has the gravity to lead the state. but i asked jill banks about not only the political but legal implications for the governor. let's listen. >> in all cases as a prosecutor, i always say you have to wait and get all of the facts. i think it's fine he's calling for a full investigation. letitia james, the attorney general of new york is doing one, and that's a good thing. i would say politically, there's a very different consideration and not just to do with the accumulation of assault and harassment and hostile workplace complaints and nursing home issue, but it sounds to me like a lot of people just don't like him and found him to be a bully in general and that's maybe the

bicker problem politically for him. >> so, alex, this is what we are hearing. we have the investigation led by letitia james. we have now the impeachment investigation from state lawmakers or federal investigation into those allegations of undercounting deaths at nursing homes related to covid. not to mention state duties like distributing the vaccine and state budget all on the governor's plate now, alex. >> that's a lot, okay. lindsey, thank you very much for that. joining us to further the discussion the washington bureau chief of "the texas tribune" abby livingston. you have 14 congressional lawmakers, both new york senators schumer and gillibrand, calling on governor cuomo to step down. add to that the 59 state lawmakers calling for governor cuomo's resignation. but governor cuomo remains

defiant, refusing to leave office. here's the question, for how long? >> that's a really good question. it seems increasingly unlikely he will step down of his own accord. it seems probable the only path to remove him from office will be through impeachment. that might be difficult to accomplish given that both chambers of new york's government are so overwhelmingly controlled by democrats. democrats hold 106 out of the 150 states in the new york state assembly and they need 76 votes to impeach him. as you just mentioned, nearly 60 state lawmakers called him to resign so the question will they go forward with impeaching him? do they have the votes to impeach him in the general assembly? beyond that, do they have the votes to actually remove him following a potential trial in the senate? two-thirds of the new york state senate would have to vote to convict him and that does not seem likely given the fact democrats control 43 out of the

63 seats in the senate. >> abby, as for the white house, largely silent on this issue at this point. do they expect to say anything on background? >> not to my knowledge but that should not overshadow what we saw yesterday with the congressional delegation. what mine by that is new york politics is a very small are world and the cuomos dominated politics longer than i've been alive. when i was sitting in the chamber on swearing-in day in 2015, there was a noticeable absence of health directors and the reason why, it was mario cuomo's father's funeral. for instance, senator gillibrand got her political start working for andrew cuomo at the u.s. hoing and urban development department in the '90s. also, there is a risk taking on cuomo in that there's a

redistricting cycle. so the blows delivered yesterday may not have been fatal but this is going to be a very difficult governorship for andrew cuomo going forward even if he hangs on. >> absolutely, the question again is how long? there was a business article you co-wrote for "business insider" saying the manhattan prosecutors could be in the final stages of their wide-ranging investigation into trump's finances. what would those final stages look like? do you think it's really going to lead to charges? do they have to come before vance lee's office, who came forward saying he would not run for re-election. >> yes, a few things will wrap up. first, as you mentioned, vance announced yesterday he will not run for re-election. the second is the seismic supreme court ruling we saw last month in which the nine justices clear the way for manhattan prosecutors to obtain trump's very closely held tax returns.

the third is the fact that vance's office recently hired veteran former prosecutors with experienced on white crime cases who was later a criminal defense attorney. so if we see charges against the former president, they will very likely come before vance leaves office, given the fact this investigation started under him. his last day is going to be in december, so if we do see charges, doj veterans we spoke to said they would very likely come in the next several months. >> so something that happened this week, merrick garland sworn in as attorney general and received quite a warm welcome when he arrived at the doj for his first day. take a listen, everyone. look at that. heartwarming for him certainly. your reaction to this, abby, is what? why do you think he was received in this way? literally applause started

before he even got out of the car. >> well, what i think became clear in his confirmation, he was overwhelmingly confirmed in the senate. many republicans lined up for him. his name had kind of gotten lost in the whole 2016 -- merrick garland was not even given a meeting with senators and that shows that was the politics of the situation than about him. it was a very interesting appointment of biden. he seems to be a very calming force and he's got a lot of work to do to restore faith in the justice department after basically four years of chaos. it will be a fascinating thing for us to watch. >> certainly well. abby livingston, we will do it with your help, thank you after the jury has been seated in the george floyd murder trial. up next, why the makeup of the jury is already raising concern. are waking up to what's possible with rybelsus®. ♪ you are my sunshine ♪

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jury selection is going to resume on monday in the trial for a former police officer accused of murder in the killing of george floyd. the court took its weekend break just as the city of minneapolis reached a record $27 million settlement with floyd's family. >> this historic agreement, the largest pretrial settlement in a police civil rights wrongful death case in u.s. history makes a statement that george floyd deserved better than what we witnessed on may 25th, 2020. >> well, nbc shaquille brewster is joining me from minneapolis. shaq, with a welcome. let's talk about how people are reacting, first of all, to this settlement and then answer what you expect to see when jury selection resumes on monday. >> yeah, alex, it was around this time yesterday when we learned about that record settlement, the $27 million

allocated to the family of george floyd. as i was reporting on msnbc, there's been this group of protesters here throughout the trial. i pulled one of them over and he said, yes, the settlement is a did step but he pointed back at the courtroom behind me and said, what really matters is what happens there, he wants a conviction in that courtroom. that was a sentiment i heard not only one time just yesterday, i heard it from other people throughout the day they want to see and they're focused on what happens in that courtroom. part of that settlement we also know is $500,000 allocated to the exact area where george floyd was killed, that 38th and chicago intersection, that is still closed off to this day. we saw the family after the settlement announcement walk over to that area and have a somber moment, taking time at that space. and then listen to what the brother of george floyd, mr. philonise, told gabe.

>> they're taking responsibility for the actions for the family is like his kids and stuff like that, but as being my brother, i want to see a conviction in the future. to me, murder isn't murder until somebody's charged for it and then they're convicted for it. i'm just hoping that they get jurors who understand what's going on. i know they probably don't want them to have to see the video. everybody who's seen the video know what's going on but i hope they pick the right jurors to make the right decision. >> now, speaking of those jurors, week two of jury selection will begin on monday. court is out of session over the course of the weekend. so far we're about halfway there. seven jurors have been seated. the court is looking to get a panel of 12 jurors and 2 alternates. so far what we know about those jurors, the majority of them, are men but there are two women

on that jury panel. the majority are white but three of the jurors are people of color. we know the ages of them, 20s, 30s and last jury to be seated friday was in her 50s. we're learning a little bit more about this jury. the jury pool will remain anonymous throughout the duration of the trial but through the questioning when they're asked what do they feel about law enforcement? how do they feel about black lives matter, we get an opinion of their feeling coming into this but the key is they say they can set aside those opinions and be impartial members on the jury. alex? >> we're watching this closely with your help, shaq, thank you very much. let's bring in georgetown will you professor and msnbc analyst paul butler, welcome. from what benjamin crump has said about this, is this an admission of guilt on the part of the city? how does this affect the outcome of the chauvin trial? >> so it's not an admission of

guilt. there's a different standard, lower standard of proof in civil cases than criminal cases. chauvin's defense attorney will still be worried this civil settlement will make perspective jurors think chauvin is guilty. respective jurors are told not to look at any news pertaining to george floyd so the judge hopes that none of the jurors will know about the settlement. that's difficult to enforce, so one concern that prosecutors have is if they convict derek chauvin, he will appeal saying the jury was tainted by hearing about this civil settlement. >> tell me also what's challenging for prosecutors. they work with police officers, right, so often in cases. so what kind of conflict does this present for prosecutors when the people with whom they typically work are the people they're trying to find guilty in something like this? >> that's a great question, alex. police work is like any other

kind of work,ing a few people do most of the work. and so prosecutors get to know officers who make arrests really well. the concern is that they are able to objectively evaluate those officers when they're accused of misconduct. so one response here is that the attorney general, keith ellison, is in charge of this prosecution. the district attorney's office is supporting mr. ellison and they're probably going to do most of the work at trial but keith ellison is calling the shots. >> hey, my director steve, can you put back up the makeup of the jury right now so we can remind our viewers what the jury looks like at this point, with seven having been chosen of the 12. so give me your thoughts on the makeup. three white men, a black man, latino man, two women. one being multiracial and one being a white woman. what are your thoughts? >> so, alex, chauvin's lawyers

get 15 strikes they can use to get rid of jurors for any reason other than race. the concern is that chauvin's lawyers are using these strikes to get rid of minority jurors, which is against the law, but they've already used three of their strikes to exclude hispanic jurors. and this matters because jurors are told to use their life experience when they evaluate evidence. minorities have different experiences with police that can make them more skeptical. but those experiences are just as valid as the life experiences that other juries, including white ones have with the police. >> paul, if you're saying that you suspect that which the defense attorneys are doing right now, they have broken the law, if they're trying to get rid of jurors based on race, can that come back to haunt them down the road? is that something provable? >> the prosecutors have suggested that two times and

they've gone to the judge and said that they think that the defense attorney was breaking the law by exuding jurors based on their race. both of those challenges, the judge has found in favor of the defense. >> extraordinary, paul butler, there's a lot to come in this trial, which means we will be speaking with you again, my friend. thank you so much. the last time i spoke with my next guest, the interview went viral around the world. we'll tell you what he said then about mar-a-lago and what's happened to him since. nce. nsurae for members like martin. an air force veteran made of doing what's right, not what's easy. so when a hailstorm hit, usaa reached out before he could even inspect the damage. that's how you do it right. usaa insurance is made just the way martin's family needs it with hassle-free claims, he got paid before his neighbor even got started. because doing right by our members, that's what's right. usaa. what you're made of, we're made for. ♪ usaa ♪

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new today a report of a surprise appearance at mar-a-lago by donald trump. this happened at a fund-raiser for a charity rescuing dogs from china. and realtor.com reports trump's mansion across the street from mar-a-lago is the most popular listing this week, with an asking price of $49 million. joining me now, lawrence lemur, historian, palm beach resident and author of "inside the gates of power: donald trump's presidential palace." his new book will be coming out in the fall. larry, welcome back. you know you made big news the last time. before we get to the headlines of today, it happened in january, you were on the show after the inauguration and you told me that trump was more or less isolated and people were avoiding mar-a-lago. first of all, tell me what happened after that interview. >> it was absolutely crazy.

since then these television reporters have come from all over the world, korea, ukraine, russia, you name it, england, germany, france. it just took off. and you realize what it means is that nobody hyped it, it just takes off, people want to hear the stuff about this guy. >> but why do you think it went viral like that? it was an unflattering portrait that you painted. >> right. i don't know, listen, all of these reporters come for me to talk to them basically all across the world, people don't like donald trump. and they'll travel thousands of miles to tell a store why i that is revealing about what this guy really is. that's what i thought it was. >> okay, things have changed though. we have "the palm beach post" reporting this, amid republican civil war trump is holding court and his grip on the gop at mar-a-lago. does this, larry, mean that people are still paying good money to just be in his orbit?

and if they're paying money, what kind of money are we talking about? >> well, they are. in fact today i just talked to somebody there right now, the place is jammed, it way it was in january. a few people enjoy paying $200,000 to join. within his world, within his tiny world -- and it is a tiny world that he rarely leaves. he leaves only to go across the river, across the lake to play golf, he's the king. he said i'm the king and he is. >> it's extraordinary. i will admit that i have somebody that i know who goes to mar-a-lago fairly regularly and i was sent a video of people, trump supporters, blaring their horns and honking and the parade of cavalcade of cars and flags and stuff, to the point of it being actually disturbing to people who are members of mar-a-lago, i'm sure. what is it that you think was

different about what happened in january, what you reported people were fleeing? has the passage of time just made people say, you know, let's just get back to mar-a-lago? >> one thing, that story affected people. they said people aren't going because they don't like it and people don't want to be on trump's bad side and thought we better get back there. plus the pandemic is not as bad here and more people wanted to come down for that, the weather is better, all of these things. it's just calmed down. trump is the central figure there, no question about it. >> do you think, larry, donald trump's personal fortunes are literally tied to maintaining this tough dog role in the republican party? >> well, of course, of course. but he's got legal problems on him. enormous legal problems are facing him he can't avoid. >> so i mentioned the house across the way that is up for sale. i believe it's a $49 million price tag across the street

there. is that the home that was owned by his sister, and that he bought at a wildly reduced price? or is that a different home we're talking about? >> i think that's the house -- >> is that the going rate for real estate on that block? >> that's the craziness that's happening in palm beach, you cannot believe people pay these prices. and you think that's $49 million? we can hardly believe it but that's the reality. he has several houses there. nobody's going to kick him off the island, that's the point. >> so i'm curious if he's selling these homes, a, because he needs the money, or, b, is he going to be allowed to live at mar-a-lago with no restrictions now because that was an issue initially, the fact he came to an agreement with the city of palm beach when he turned that private home into a private club, it was i think, what, three-week maximum amount of time he could spend in any

calendar year, has that issue gone away? is that why he's selling these homes? does he need the money or -- >> look, the rule is if he's an employee of mar-a-lago, he can live there, okay. i grew up in the state of new york and we'd go to a chinese restaurant, chinese buffet and he would stand there when you come in and come to your table and see how you liked the chopped soy. donald trump was a lousy president, a failed businessman but he's a fantastic host. and that's what he does in mar-a-lago. he's a legitimate employee, host of mar-a-lago and for that reason alone, they condition the kick him out. >> can i ask you in general, larry, how people reacted having donald trump and melania trump as neighbors? are they out in the neighborhood osh hole up in mar-a-lago? >> no, they never, ever have gone to anybody's house for dinner, gone to a restaurant. does he ever come out and talk to quote/unquote real americans? no.

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million people they lost 2,500 people, over 100,000 cases. if you compare that to states across the country, bigger states like california and new york, it seems like a smaller amount, but with a population of a million people they were hit hard throughout the last year. as i said, i've been reporting extensively, i spoke to dr. laura forman who is going to be joining me here later today, she was head of the field hospital that opened up in the fall, i took a tour of the hospital, there were 300 beds available. dr. forman felt as if we were in the middle of a war. dr. eugene levy, head of the icu at rhode island hospital, dr. christian, i'm sure people remember he was the first in the state to get a vaccine. he's going to be joining me as well. i spoke to a pastor yesterday,

alex, and i had a fascinating conversation with him, he was one of the first individuals to test positive for covid, he was in bed for two months he and his month. after that he developed a high amount of anxiety, he didn't want to leave the house. but he realized he needed to make sure the black and brown community were educated and when the vaccine came out to educate about the vaccine. so he's dedicated himself to make sure the black and brown community specifically in this state with getting vaccinated. over 60% of those vaccinated are white. just 7%, alex, are black. so we're going to talk about that as well. i'm speaking with a restaurant owner who said he was losing $35,000 a month due to this pandemic. he opened up his restaurant two weeks before the shutdown. this was a dream for him to have this restaurant, i visited it

yesterday, he has incredible food by the way. so we have a very big show ahead. this state hit very hard. but the sun is out, the sun is shining and there is light at the end of the tunnel with vaccines rolling out, we'll show you rhode islanders getting the vaccine as well. i hope everyone joins us 3:00 to 5:00 p.m. >> i can tell the sun is out but it also looks chilly. >> it is. >> you're ready for that. let me ask you about the disturbing number that i think rhode island is reflecting that which we've seen around the country, about the lack of minority vaccination because the vaccines themselves are not getting to those areas. do you find that that's what's at stake in rhode island or is it because of hesitancy on the part of getting the vaccine from the minority communities? >> i think it's both, actually. in speaking to the pastor yesterday, he said when he opened up the vaccine supply to

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>> all right, everyone. we're keeping a close eye on all of this. we know that in addition to benjamin crump, of course, the family attorney, breonna taylor's mother is at that event. there's several hundred gathered, several media, it is indicating the level of suffering throughout louisville, kentucky in the wake of this tragic year trying to come to grips with the fact that breonna taylor was killed by police and no officers involved have been charged in direct connection with her death. we're going to take a short break. we'll be right back here with we could weekends with alex witt. d. woman: i have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. now, there's skyrizi. 3 out of 4 people achieved 90% clearer skin at 4 months

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