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trump's line is offensive tomas cow and mar-a-lago in frequent measure. this g.o.p. fox towards turn russia -- speaking of which, look at the time. that is our broadcast for this friday evening. and for this week with our thanks for being here with us. have a good weekend unless you have other plans. on behalf of all of our colleaguesa at the networks of nbc news, good night. >> rachel has the night off and she will be back on monday. there is a lot of news to get to on a friday night and a lot of it is out of the state of georgia. we are still in a state of national mourning for the victims of tuesdays shootings in the atlanta area. president biden and vice
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president harris took their first joint trip since taking office to atlanta. the trip was planned as part of their tour promoting the america rescue plan but postponed that and instead the president and the vice president shifted their plans deciding instead to meet with leaders of the city's asian american and pacific islander community to discuss tuesday's attack and the rise of anti-asian hate crimes across the country. the meeting was held in private. we will be speaking with one of the community leaders who was in the room a little later this hour. we have encouraging news about the fight to protect voting rights in the state of georgia we will get to tonight and we will be speaking with one of the activists leading the fight. the president and the vice president in atlanta to the headquarter of the cdc announcing they have met their goal of administering 100 million vaccine shots 40 days ahead of schedule.
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it is an amazing milestone but if you are a parent you might be more excited about the news the cdc broke itself later today. the cdc updateds it guidance on physical distancing in schools. going from requiring six feet between each student to three. meaning a lot more kids will be able to head back to the classroom soon. as i said we have got a lot to get to on this busy friday night. i want to start with something that happened in georgia a couple of months ago. an audit of the november election. president trump and allies were shouting that the election was fraud, fake, stolen. georgia's republican secretary of state said we will do another audit to check the results again. suddenly the president's chief
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of staff shows up where they are counting and carrying out the audit. the visit was totally unannounced and out of the blue. the only reason we know it happened is that a local reporter with the atlanta journal constitution saw trump's chief of staff mark meadows and secret service agents swoop into the building and snapped a picture of him being intercepted in the hallway by state election officials who didn't allow him into the room where the audit was happening. but now we know what mark meadows did get that day were very useful phone numbers. he gave her number to the president of the united states. he promptly called the investigator to tell her that she would definitely find issues with georgia's election that the whole country is counting on her
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and that she will be praised when she discovers the evidence that he actually won the georgia election. also that day in cobb county, mark meadows met georgia's dep secretary of state and it was through her meadows set up a call between president trump and georgia's secretary of state. just to recall congratulate the votes so that trump would win. that is the focal point of the criminal investigation opened last month. today we are learning a bit more about the widening scope of the investigation. reuters reports that mark meadows himself could be in hot water for his role in all of this. reuters pointing out it was meadows trip that set in motion a series of meetings and conversations in a pressure campaign by trump.
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meadows was on that infamous call where trump pressured georgia officials to find the votes and meadows pressed georgia officials on the call for access to legally private voter information, a request they denied. georgia's secretary of state had a duty under state law to protect confidential voter information. a person with direct knowledge told reuters that the sofs likely to issue subpoenas for evidence for most or all of the call participants meaning the former white house chief of staff can expect a subpoena for georgia state prosecutors. that is not just important for mark meadows and his potential legal exposures but important because the fulton county
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district attorney hired a racketeering expert to help. proving racketeering in georgia means proving a pattern of behavior. it generally involves multiple people. if mark meadows is repeatedly setting up calls with and pressuring georgia officials with the purpose of interfering in georgia elections and doing it all with donald trump, you can see why the d.a. and prosecutor might be taking a hard look at meadows. trump's taxes in hand. here is the lead. with trump's tax returns in hand, a team of new york prosecutors led by a mob buster is sending out fresh subpoenas
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and meeting face to face with key witnesses, scrutinizing trump's business practices in granular detail. the manhattan district attorney is investigating any number of crimes by trump, business and children, including tax and bank fraud, much tied to trump or his businesses, allegedly lying about the value of real estate assets for loan and tax purposes. vance hired this prosecutor mark pomeranz to lead the team sifting through the massive volume of financial records they finally got from trump's acting firm last night. it all started with a guy named michael cohen the started with investigations into payments
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designed to keep two women from talking about alleged affairs with candidate trump. they were felonies and the president's lawyer went to prison for them. the payments cohen made were reimbursed as if they were payments to cohen for legal services. depending how that was done that could be a crime. if they were deducted on the firm's taxes, it could be tax fraud. cohen provided documentation attesting to what he described as a long-running scheme by the former president to defraud insurance companies, banks and tax authorities by radically changing the valuation of the various properties to get better loans or better tax deals and ever since the manhattan d.a. opened an investigation into all of this michael cohen has been cooperating and meeting with
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investigators from prison. now he has the hard hitting mob prosecutor going through the records and figuring out what incriminating evidence there might be. new york prosecutors brought michael cohen in for his eighth interview. no more zoom this time. they asked him to come in person. signs point to the long time chief financial officer. the "new york times" and then the "washington post" report prosecutors have been scrutinizing his children. one son who worksa at the trump organization and another working for a company that loaned money to trump's company. if the trump organization is in
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trouble they could be caught up in it. so far they are not cooperating with prosecutors but the ex-wife of one of his sons is. tom winter sat down with her for an exclusive interview asking her about her former father-in-law. >> what do you think he could tell investigators? >> everything they would ask. >> do you think he could be the ultimate tour guy into the trump orbit? >> yes. >> her ex-husband managing trump's ice rinks in new york central park and believed in 2004 trump and melania gave them a big wedding gift. their own apartment overlooking the park. you thought it was a gift. >> i wrote them a thank you note. >> all along a trump corporate
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apartment. >> i didn't understand these things. >> trump let them live there rent-free paying only for utilities. it caught the attention of the manhattan district attorney's office. >> multiple times. >> okay. >> the former daughter-in-law is cooperating with new york prosecutors. michael cohen worked with him at the trump organization for years. the new yorker reports cohen believes if prosecutors thetten
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weisslberg he will cooperate and not let his boys go to prison cohen told me and i don't think he wants to spend his golden years in a correctional institute either. cohen was with the manhattan d.a. for his eighth interview. wouldn't you like to have been a fly on the wall for that. joining me now michael cohen, the author of disloyal. a memoir, the true story of the former personal attorney to president donald j. trump. thank you for joining us tonight. >> welcome. >> i wasn't a fly on the wall. if i were, i know you have arrangements with the manhattan d.a. what part can you tell me about what went down today?
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i do not have any arrangement with anybody. i asked for nothing and they offered nothing. whatever information they seek, if i am capable of providing that to them i do. i also believe that the right thing to do is not to provide that information. i don't want to see the trump organization or mr. weisslberg obtain a benefit you heard that he could be the ultimate tour guide through the system. a lot of people thought you
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would be the tour guide. tell me about what he may have known that you already know. >> right. he is the chief financial officer of the trump organization. he is by far the longest serving and acting executive at the trump organization. basically fred trump told donald to take allen weisslberg because fred didn't trust him with the money he was loaning. and he became the coo and the longest serving executive at the organization. i don't know if i would say he is the roadmap to the investigation. truthfully whatever they have, they have. would it be better to have the accountant, always? there was not a single dollar in
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or out of the company that did not cross through his desk. the financial crimes being discussed in the investigation, it would certainly be helpful for his testimony but it is not fatal to their investigation. remember, they obtained more than 1 million pages of documents. eight years of mr. trump and the trump organization's tax returns. that is the roadmap there and many people, including the companies they brought in are able to decipher it and myself included. you don't need to charge him on 20 issues. all you need is one. believe me they have more than one. my recommendation for allen, as i stated to jane, unless you want to spend some time in a camp like i did and you want to put your boys at risk, i am
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pretty sure he will be providing information to the district attorney. when you have someone like mark pomeranz, a seasoned veteran when it comes to this type of litigation. he has been a tough-nosed prosecutor and a hard-nosed defender. he knows the game better than anybody. >> pomeranz knows the game better. you know what was going on in the trump organization. do you have confidence that pomeranz has the information he needs? it does sound like they have more than a million pages of documents and have what they have. do you think they have what they need and that pomeranz knows what to do with it? >> i am certain about that. you know, as i always said paper
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does not lie. individuals do. so, no matter what donald trump is going to try to claim, the pages don't lie. you have the accounting firm that was doing it. you brought up the stormy daniels payment. as i made crystal clear in my statement prior to incarceration. i did it at the direction of and for the benefit of donald trump and that alan was a party to my conversation with donald trump.
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alan weisslberg was a party to that. if you get everybody that was involved it is important but not the end all be all. a lot of people on social media reach out to me saying if you have the goods, you know drop it. give it. spill it. i know there are a lot of people out there that watch the show and that watch you that are interested in me sitting here and spilling all of the information. please understand when i say i can't do that or i choose not to simply because it does not help the district attorney or the investigation in order to hold the people responsible for their own dirty deeds. that is one of the reasons why i spent eight different sessions going back over a year and a half or closer to two years when
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the district attorney first came to interview me. you can rest assure they are not asking me to come in for a ninth time simply because they find me funny. they are drilling down more and more and more. you are going to see indictments start flying. there are over a million documents. rest assured. they are well organized, disciplined in their questioning. there was more paper there. all tabulated in three-ring
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books. questions they wanted to pose by me and more than you would possibly imagine. there is a lot of documentation. right now i am on home confinement and have a lot of free time to head downtown to sit with them. like i said one of the reasons i am doing this is that i will not be the villain of donald trump's story. they all need to be held responsible for their own dirty deeds. i don't want to be responsible for their actions. >> you said you had no arrangement with anybody. >> i haven't been asked at this point in time but one would imagine by the time i finish meeting with them we would be in to the double digits. do i anticipate being called as a witness? the answer is probably yes.
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if i am asked then i will do it simply because of my respect for mr. vance as well as for mr. pomeranz and for the investigation they are now conducting, so the answer is if i am asked i will do it. no different than when i was asked to appear before the congress, whether it was the house or the senate select committees. all of them. the house judiciary. if they ask me to come in, i am coming in. i don't need to be forced in with a subpoena. all they need to do is ask. >> michael, thank you for taking time to join us today. president trump's former personal lawyer in cy vance's investigation into president trump. disloyal, want troy -- all right. much more to get to here tonight. president biden and vice president harris made their first joint trip in office today, a trip that turned out to
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reeling from the violence on tuesday when a gunman allegedly killed eight people at three spas staffed by people of asian descent. the last women were identified, three of them shot in the head and the fourth gunshot wounds to the chest. one was a single mother of two, elementary school teacher in korea before immigrating to the united states. donations have poured in for her sons, more than $1 million of donations in 24 hours. tens of thousands raised for the victims of the other families as well. the president and vice president's visit to atlanta was long scheduled and an opportunity to out to the accomplishments of their covid relief bill.
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the vice president and president spoke after meeting with the asian american and pacific islander delegation. they were an hour late to their scheduled remarks because you can get a sense the meeting went long. >> thank you and good afternoon. sorry, a little late but we had an opportunity to meet with the leaders of the aapi community downstairs. and it was heart wrenching to listen to. too many asian americans have been walking up and down the streets and worried. waking up each morning the past year feeling the safety of their loved ones are at stake. attacked. blamed. scapegoated and harassed. a year of living in fear for
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their lives. just to walk down the street. the conversation we had today with the aapi leaders is that hate and violence often hide in plain sight. it is often met with silence but that has to change because our silence is complicity. we cannot be complicit. >> joining us now is a state representative in the georgia state legislature and is part of the asian american pacific island delegation that met with president biden and vice president harris this afternoon. representative, thank you for being with us today and our condolences to the community in atlanta that is reeling from the shootings earlier this week. what do we know now about the shootings and what connection they may have the anti-asian violence we have been seeing in
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the country in recent days? >> we know the names of all victims. of the eight that were killed, six were asian women. we know that he denies that there are any racial implications. but we also know he targeted these three places and drove from the first location 40 minutes to the second location and on the way he passed other adult entertainment businesses that are not asian-owned. today for the first time we heard a statement from the victims families that were read directly for the president and the vice president to hear.
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we heard from the son of one of the victims. her son, randy, had this to say. let's listen together. >> you can't say that this is not racially motivated. you don't kill eight people on a bad day let alone one. >> how often did she tell you she loved you? >> every night before she goes to bed she calls me or my brother. >> it is heartbreaking to see these two boys who have lost their mother. there is a sense of callusness in the case of one of the police departments that were handling this is aing the shooter had a bad day. that has resulted in a very, very strong reaction from everybody to say how do people get away being told they were having a bad day killing this many people. >> in addition to him having a bad day, the idea that somebody
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is suffering from mental health crisis can't also be racist his act of violence, as you stated before, he shot three of the women in the head at close range. to hear it characterized like that, it is a repetition of what we have seen in the past. we see that in police brutality when he shouldn't have reasons to direct. we hear that a lot. it is a painful reminder that our country is unwilling, unable
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to admit that there is deep racism, systemic racism and to hear the president and the vice president acknowledge that, it is a stark contrast to the last administration. >> yeah. doesn't feel like much but it is a big deal when you are used to not hearing these encouragements or words of condolences from the president. thank you very much. i appreciate you taking time to be with us. despite the sad news out of georgia there is news for robbery efforts to roll back voting rights. y efforts to rollk voting rights. ♪ pepto bismol coats and soothes your stomach for fast relief and get the same fast relief in a delightful chew with pepto bismol chews. [ heavy breathing ] allergies with nasal congestion overwhelming you?
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election integrity bills, voter suppression bills before the end of the session at the end of the month. many of the bills will make it harder to vote by limiting early and absentee voting. others would add more voter i.d. requirements and cut back on voting on sundays which is important. last week rachel spoke with natasha brown. asking them to stand up and support georgia voters. late last night republicans in the state signalled they will back down from some of those
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proposals. today activists in the state received a boost when the metro chamber of commerce laid out their concerns with voters. our interests in the issues began long ago reflecting our bellerive every eligible georgia voter should engage in the voting process. changes to the process could come by the way as early as monday when they are expected to meet and vote on the bills. as republicans appear to be
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retreating from their opposition to absentee voting many of the other proposed restrictions remain. joining us is latasha brown, the group that has been campaigning to come out against the legislation. this is remarkable. you were able to go out there and you were able to say. i saw it on social media. it spread quickly to say you have employees. you have customers that live in the state of georgia. i think that is what happens when a community comes together. organizations, nonprofit groups and activists come together. groups like naacp. georgia stand up.
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labor unions and salesforce that came out with a strong and a direct statement. it is disappointing to see companies like delta. this is a democracy issue. we believe we have to push and put pressure. what is it that looks like success to you? what do you want delta to do that will influence republicans in the state legislature to pull back on more of the things they are trying to do to cut off people's ability to vote? >> delta has a tremendous amount
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of capital and influence. a company we own and love. it is based here in the state of georgia. we expect we won't have these lukewarm statements. and that they will come out strong saying we are against this. this is not what we are going to stand for. when i think about the bills that happened while the pressure worked. many ways it is like a jedi mind trick. now you are saying you came up with bad legislation that we know is rooted in racism maybe we will just offer this much voter suppression. one they are completely against the bills those that stand and
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biden promised 100 million shots in his first 100 days of office. that is a bfd as someone once said. with the current average of 2.5 million shots administered each day now, biden might be able to reach the 150 million shot milestone he articulated back in january that he hoped to achieve with the grace of god. so, here we are a year into the pandemic. we can see that the science is working. and now our government is working too. science and government together resulted in another major update. the cdc released revised guidance for social distancing in schools. kids are allowed to sit three feet apart in classrooms rather than six feet. but when it comes to reopening businesses and restaurants, the biden administration is in a
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race against the clock as vaccines and new variants proliferate around the country. connecticut reopened their restaurants to full capacity. new jersey and new york opened to 50% capacity. on monday new york city is set to resume indoor fitness classes at 33% so people can work out the stress of the past year while breathing all over each other as a teacher shouts instructions at them over a catchy beat. new york state and new jersey have more recent cases per capita than any other state. b1526 based on samples collected
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in november. now that accounts for 40% of all of the cases sequenced in local labs recently. they think it could indicate that the new york variant could be more contagious and better able to work around antibodies. joining us is a scientific director. he is a legend in the fight against hiv. he has been working on a treatment for covid-19 and now is out with a new study of the new york city covid variant and that the unique set of spike mutations may pose a challenge for current interventions. doctor, thank you for being here to help us understand the new challenges we are facing. i do not understand it.
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so, i am going to read you another piece from your study and i would love for you to explain what it means. you say phylogenetic analyses sequences in the database further reveal that the variant is scattered in the northeast of the u.s. what does it all mean in language i can understand? >> thank you for having me on the program, ali. we have been doing studies to look for the variants from the uk, south africa, brazil and here in new york city. we identified home grown variants now referred to as
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b1526. if you look at the spike protein that sits on the outside of the virus particle and is responsible for the virus binding to the cell. there is one major mutation there. we know the mutation would hinder the action. would lower the -- >> and of course people like me think wow, you know, more fatal is the worst thing that can happen with a virus. but in fact potentially more contagious or able to neutralize
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could be more dangerous. this is a matter that you think people have to take very, very seriously? >> yes. uncovering the new variant, we are quite concerned. we see it rising in prevalence over the last few months from november to a few cases in november and then gradually increases from a few percentage now up to 40%. so, the dominance suggests it could be more transmissible. we looked at b1526 versus the one from the united kingdom. and in new york city, we see that the new york variant is outcompeting the uk variant and in places like florida, the uk variant is now dominant.
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so it suggests that here in new york we have evidence that this new variant is more transmissable, simply by comparison with the uk variant. >> are we dealing with it the right way? is the idea that we are still trying to get everybody vaccinated and everybody should stay with their masks and maintain social distancing? is that the best way to deal with the new variant or are we going to need to come up with variations on the vaccines? >> i think we need to double down on what we have been doing, continue to carry out mitigation measures with masking and social distancing, and i think it is vital that we roll out the vaccine quickly as possible as the new administration is doing. because if we can block the spread of the virus, we will block mutations from accumulating in the virus. that is now the new variants
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appear. doubling down on the measures is what we need. >> doctor, are you alarmed by the changes you are seeing in the northeast in terms of restrictions being lifted in connecticut, new jersey and new york? >> you know, i cannot speak about places outside of new york city because that is our focus. we do know that this new variant is rising expotentially and telling us it is more transmissable and yet the mitigation measures are being relaxed. so, i am a bit concerned about that. >> thank you for the work you are doing on this and the work you have done on aids in the past. we appreciate your time tonight. we will be right back. time ton. we will be right back.
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out run covid-19 with an all-out focus on vaccine distribution, the previous president is coping with a coronavirus outbreak at his florida home, mar-a-lago. it is in partial shutdown after at least one person there tested positive. members got a phone call earlier today to let them know and some employees are under quarantine. the ap was the first to report the story and the palm beach post reports the partial closure affects the resort's beach club and dining room. no word on the whereabouts of the former first family. that does it for tonight. rachel will be back on monday morning. i will be joined by congresswoman judy chu, congressman andy kim. the last capitol riot arrests and the warning from u.s. intelligence of more danger to come from right wing extremists. those stories and more.
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now it is time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. good evening my friend. >> good evening, ali. i will be watching at 8:00 a.m. tomorrow. and i am actually going to go to work at >> there's a special that you've got on tomorrow afternoon. >> no, i'm just going to join alex as a guest tomorrow afternoon because that's a more reasonable hour for me on a saturday than the 8:00 a.m. to 10:00 a.m. duty. >> i was going to say, you're a good friend, lawrence, but i agree with you. i'm with you. you're welcome to sleep in through my show. i know our friendship remains strong regardless. have a good evening, sir. >> thank you. well, congressman grace min will join us tonight. many of you heard her frustration and pain as she fought back tears yesterday in a
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