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msnbc world headquarters here in nk. we begin with breaking news, update on law enforcement at eight people at atlanta area spas. atlanta officials are telling nbc news they have yet to find concrete evidence that would be enough to build a hate crime case against the accused shooter. investigators say they have done interviews, they have looked into electronic devices and have not turned up evidence needed to support a hate crimes charge yet. also new this hour, crowds are mobilizing around this country to take part in
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anti-hate marches and rallies. this crowd is part of protest, in anti-hate rallies. a new "usa today"/ipsis poll more than half of americans see asians blamed from the coronavirus. lindsey, what are you seeing and where exactly are you? >> reporter: senator schumer is speaking right now. let's listen. >> but he is gone. he's never coming back. and now it is up to all of us to speak out every time we see an active hatred against asian-americans or against any american because hate against one is hate against all.
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the asian-american community is a beautiful community, a hard-working community, a family-oriented community, a community that is the best of america. and we are united, we are united in saying that there are many ways to go after hate, to speak out against it, and i am urging, along with my colleagues, that our justice department prosecute fully and completely anybody who commits a hate crime against asians or anybody else. >> reporter: it is about empowering the community. we already have at least 2,000 people here. we'll keep bringing you live updates throughout the hour. >> i know it's kind of loud there as you're trying to listen to the senate majority leader,
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but can you just have your camera operator pull back a little bit. i'm trying to get a sense for how large the crowd is, or you can at least tell us that. there we go. oh, yeah. >> reporter: yeah, so right now we're seeing a lot of people here. again, i told you at least 2,000 people. people with signs like "stop asian hate," quite the turnout here, alex. they had just a few moments ago a martial arts lesson. today is about empowerment, not to be fearful, and be proud of their heritage and everything they bring here. we hear now the event organizers on stage as senator schumer finishes his remarks on stage. >> thank you. a couple thousand people, we know. i understand the rally is supposed to go for the next couple hours. we'll definitely come back and dip in as people make to the stage and make their comments and appeals to the crowd. we'll go to more developing news. the biden administration
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addressing a surge and crossings at the southern border. dhs secretary is defending the administration's approach as it grapples with housing a number of unaccompanied children, officials say, they don't want to turn away. >> why the challenge at the border is as difficult as it is now, even though we are tackling it and will tackle it successfully, is because the entire system was dismantled by the trump administration and we are in the midst of a pandemic. so, it makes the challenge more difficult, but we know how to meet that challenge. the personnel of the department of homeland security will and are meeting that challenge and we will execute this successfully. >> meanwhile, at this hour, the u.s. capitol is a step closer to looking a bit like it used to. crews are taking down that outer fence surrounding the capitol. it's been up since the january 6th attack. this comes as the prospects for a 9/11-style commission into that attack grow dim due to partisan disputes.
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republican and democratic leaders can't agree on who will be on the commission and what exactly it would study. today republican senator roy blunt suggested there may not even be a need for one. >> in terms of the security of the capitol, whether the police board is functioning or not, not the capitol police, but the board that, in my opinion, got in the way of decisions that need to be made that day, we know those facts, and i think the congress itself could move forward and make the changes that need to be made. >> and defense secretary lloyd austin making an unannounced visit to afternoon. it comes as the biden administration faces a decision to make a may 1st deadline in an agreement with the taliban. adam smith gave me his reaction to it in the last hour. >> i think this visit tells us how important that may 1st deadline is.
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i support the idea it is time to bring our troops home. may 1st is a very difficult deadline. the more important question is, what is the long-term policy president biden is going to put in place in afghanistan? does he think we have to stay there? if so, how long and why? >> monica alba joining us from outside the white house. how is the white house respond to the critics who say these new border policies are encouraging migrants to cross the southern border? >> reporter: they're on defense, because while they can say the border is closed in terms of their policy, that is clearly not what's being seen by our own reporters on the ground. unaccompanied minors are being allowed to enter the country. this is all of the action of the biden administration trying to undo what the prior white house had done under former president trump. you have this conflict of messaging. while they can try to make the
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claim, please don't come here right now, these policies are being cited by some people who are making the treacherous journey as a reason why they're undertaking all of this in the first place. you have dhs secretary on defense here, but he is trying to claim they are working to the best of their ability. take a listen to what he told our colleague, chuck todd, on "meet the press" this morning. >> our message has been straightforward and simple. it is true, the border is closed. we are expelling families, we are expelling single family adults and we have made the decision we will not expel young, vulnerable children. i think we are executing on our plans. quite frankly, when we are finished doing so, the american public will look back on this and say we secured our border and we upheld our values and our principles as a nation. >> reporter: the biden white house is under increasing political pressure to show video
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from inside these overcrowded facilities. that hasn't happened and they haven't let journalists in. a bipartisan delegation was allowed in el paso over the couple of days. another interesting data point here, alex, we're on day 60 of the biden administration and the president promised in that time frame there would be a review of any ongoing border wall construction projects and that at the end of that, they would decide whether to suspend, terminate or extend any of them. we expect an update from the white house and other federal agencies on that in the coming days. >> something very much donald trump was well under way to doing. thank you for that. joining me now, california congressman ted lue. dhs secretary says the message is clear that our border is closed, but, congressman, is that message being heard? even if it is, to what effect?
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>> thank you, alex, for your question. secretary mayorkas is correct, our border is closed and that's why president biden said, don't come. if you look at what the department of homeland security has been saying, it's been very consistent. i also i want to remind people that the biden administration has been in office less than 60 days. immigration has been a problem. it was a problem under donald trump. it is a problem now. that's why i support comprehensive immigration reform. every single day the department of homeland security is apprehending folks at the border and returning them. do not come to the united states unless you have papers. >> congressman, let me ask you, logistically, the biden administration can say, don't come, our border is closed but when people are already on the move, when you've got migrants that are making their way and it takes weeks if not months to potentially literally walk from central america up to the
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border, it's hard to imagine they're able to hear any new policy or get that kind of communication, right? so, those that we're seeing, they started making this journey quite some time ago. >> that's exactly correct. that's the same thing that happened under the trump administration. remember all those caravans? that happened under the trump administration. people made this treacherous journey under the trump administration. they also did it under the obama administration and they also did it under the bush administration. they're going to do this because of their problems they are also experiencing at home in their countries. that's why we need a multi-prong solution where we try to make sure the situations in their countries are better so we don't have migrants making this treacherous journey. this is not a single solution. it will be a multifactor solution. that's why we need comprehensive immigration reform. >> we've heard what the dhs secretary mayorkas is saying about this. let's take a listen to what
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texas congressman michael mccaul is predicting. >> it's going to get worse. it's going to get a lot worse. springtime, summer, more and more come over. the message is coming back that, hey, we got a new president, come on in, we're open for business to the traffickers. guess what. they're right here. and i predict a million people trying to get into this country by the summertime. >> a million people by summertime? is this partisan hyperbole? >> it is correct that immigration goes up and down at the southern border depending on the time of year. so, yes, as spring and summer comes, often you do see additional numbers of migrants -- >> congressman, you have frozen, sir. >> expelling them as secretary mayorkas said. that's going to continue. the message again is, don't come. >> okay, good, glad we got you
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turned back up. let me ask you about the american rescue plan, which has passed and the stimulus checks have been sent to tens of millions of americans. what's the reaction among your constituents? are you getting a sense of how it's helping them? >> it is one of relief. american families and small businesses are getting their resources they need to make it through this pandemic. this is also going to get us on the road to economic recovery, much sooner and much quicker. a recent report from various firms expected increasing gdp because of the american rescue plan. and we're going to make sure we get shots into people's arms, kids back in school and people getting jobs. >> switching gears this week, we saw the horrific attacks in atlanta on asian-americans. we heard chip roy's comments that equated to lynching. that happened during a house
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judiciary committee. what i would like to play for viewers is what you said, your response to that hearing. let's take a look and listen, everyone. >> i certainly -- you can say what you want under the first amendment. you can say racist, stupid stuff, if you want. but i'm asking you to, please, stop using racist terms like kung flu, wuhan virus or other ethnic things. i am not a virus. when you say things like that, it hurts the asian-american community. >> well said. do you think what you said is resonating in the country? >> people who are not racist understand what i said. i just want this message out to the american people. there is a surge in violence against the asian-american community. and rhetoric does matter. the expert witnesses at the hearing testified that rhetoric can cause an increase in hate crimes and hate incidents.
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so, please, call coronavirus by its name, coronavirus or covid-19. stop using ethnic identifiers. i am not a virus. my family is not a virus. we don't transmit the virus more than any other family. so, please, just call it by its scientific name. and be a part of the solution. >> i've got to ask something -- a lot of times people listen to personal stories and it really hits home. we've heard multiple accounts of asian-americans, the racism and the violence they've endured. have you, sir, ever faced the same kind of attacks? is there a personal account you can share with us? you don't have to if you don't want to, i just thought i'd ask. >> so, growing up it was very clear i was viewed as a foreigner. sometimes people looked at me, their first thought was i'm not american, i'm a second-class citizen. i would be called chink, people would throw eggs at our home, sometimes tires on our car were
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slashed. if you look at my social media feed on any given day, you see a number of racist comments directed at me. so, this is something that i do experience. some people have experienced it far worse. some people have been assaulted physically because of their race. if you look at the history of america, we see an attack on ethnic minorities, including asian-americans, whenever our country feels threatened. we had the whole yellow hysteria, followed by the chinese exclusion act and the internment of over 120,000 americans who happened to be of japanese descent and now this pandemic which has increased violence against asian-americans. >> given the level of respect i have for you, i hate hearing what you've had to endure and i hope it stops. congressman, my friend, thank you so much. >> thank you. it's a word you don't want to hear but it's being said a lot overseas and dr. anthony fauci is concerned about it, and it's next. ny fauci is concerned about it, and
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let's get new details in the coronavirus pandemic. health officials are warning of a potential fourth surge of cases in the u.s. as many states are moving to ease restrictions. many doctors worry the uk variant, which has been reported in all 50 states, will become dominant here. chaos in miami beach overnight as police try to enforce the new 8:00 p.m. curfew put in place to control spring break crowds just hours after the state reached 2 million covid cases. the city's mayor has declared a state of emergency and closed some major roads for at least 72 hours. colorado is the latest state to roll back its covid restrictions. starting wednesday, most bars will be allowed to reopen and limit on personal gatherings will end. the state's mask mandate will ease in about two weeks. positive news. one in six american adults has been fully vaccinated. almost 80 million americans have gotten at least one dose of a
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covid vaccine and 156 million doses have been distributed across this country. that is good news. joining me, dr. natalie azar. let's get to what dr. fauci said. he said it yesterday, that the u.s. typically follows europe as far as covid trends and what they're seeing currently is a new surge in cases. you have many countries that are now reinstating lockdowns. i know france has gone down for four weeks now. do you think it's inevitable we'll see a surge in the coming weeks is the fact that we are ahead in vaccinations going to help reduce the chances of that happening? >> well, you know, alex, i think our vaccination rate is a little better than in europe and i think that will offset some of that. look, historically, the dynamics of the outbreak for us has really followed europe by about a month. we've seen that their cases have increased, they implement restrictions, cases plateau and
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restrictions. go away and they surm. >> all this great news about vaccinations, we shouldn't sort of use that as a smoke screen to go out and behave any way we want to, is what you're saying. >> right. look, it's great that one in six americans have been fully vaccinated. that's only about 13% of the entire population, which is well far away from the level of herd immunity. there are only two things we can do to mitigate these variants, that is vaccine and that is behavior. i should point out that when you get vaccinated, it's not only protecting you against the variants circulating but also preventing the mutants that are forming. >> we have the uk variant, that's now in every state, the south african and brazil strains are quickly spreading and the tsa talking about the record air travel last week. we have spring break in full
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swing. you see the video from miami. so, how tight is the race between the variant spread and getting people vaccinated? how worried are you about the number of people traveling right now? >> it's really tight, alex. i think it's anyone real guess, if we had a lens to look at the finish line to see who's going to get there first, boy, i wish we all had that. the travel is definitely concerning. we are seeing, you know, cases increasing, popping up a lot in the mid-atlantic, in areas of new york and the midwest. even some places that are reporting sort of a plateau or decrease in cases. i know there was a little bit written about that in the new york area and governor cuomo loosening restrictions. there's a concern we may not even be measuring all of the cases because we're not doing as much testing. those lowering rates that are giving us a false sense of comfort could be artificially low. you know, i hate to always sound like the grim reaper here, but, you know, really the behavior is going to make such a difference
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until we get more and more and more shots in arms, alex. >> as we see potentially another surge here in the u.s., doctor, does that mean all these loosened restrictions definitely have to go back the other way? i mean, will we see them put in place? >> you know what, i think from the very beginning, we have talked about this not being an on/off switch. and what we were so concerned about a few weeks ago was suddenly everything's opened so 0% and mask mandates are gone. why are those two things happening at the same time? why not slowly open the valve, as it's been described, but keep the masks on? it doesn't need to be this all or nothing phenomenon. there's no way that anybody could expect that we're not going to see an increase in cases if masks are abandoned and restrictions are loosened at the same time. it's just inevitable. >> all i've got to say is i think it's very -- i think it's hard to envision anyone who's
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breaking news out of atlanta. law and federal law enforcement with new word on the spau investigation killing. what new information did we learn, deepa? >> reporter: that's right. federal authorities have said they have not taken the steps to move forward to investigate this crime as a hate crime and prosecute it as a hate crime. i do want to be clear, though, state and local authorities here still have the lead on this investigation. they have not ruled out any kind of motive, which means they have not ruled it out as a hate crime
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as well. typically what would happen for federal authorities to take this on, the doj would direct the atlanta fbi to start looking into this as a hate crime and take that on. they have not gone in that direction is what nbc news is learning. again, state and local authorities do have the lead still. what we know is historically the bar to prosecute something as a hate crime on the federal level has been very high. so, we're not sure at this point if that will really be set in stone, but at this point it looks like federal authorities are not going in that directions. >> it looks like it at this point that there's no tangible evidence that something has turned up in terms of a hate crime. i know they're going to pursue it. appreciate that. a new poll shows a majority of americans approve of the work president biden has done so far. in a reuters survey, president biden's approval sits at 59%.
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joining me now, msnbc political analyst and reporter for the white house associated press, jonathan lemire. let's see what is driving those numbers. is this a honeymoon? do most presidents get those high marks this early along? >> a number of presidents do start with pretty good numbers. certainly, this is a terrific rating for joe biden and his staff believe it's a combination of factors that have led to this point. first, the relief he has not shown donald trump who for much of the country was an exhausting, polarizing figure. one is, he's not trump. more than that, president biden by most measures has had a strong first two months in office. in particular, he has shepherded this massive $1.9 trillion covid relief bill into law. it was a campaign promise and he delivered on it. and americans are already seeing tangible results. a number of americans have
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already received their stimulus check. and the president is currently has plans for a tour to tout these numbers to the public, to show them what they're getting from this bill and he was returning from camp david later today. i'm at the white house waiting for that. but he'll be off to ohio on tuesday. so, this covid relief bill, which received zero republican support in both the house and the senate, is wildly popular among americans, jonathan. it's even supported by republican governors and mayors. why is there such discrepancy between the federal and local members of the gop? >> it's a terrific question and one republicans are grappling with right now. you'll note, they didn't put up much of an opposition to this bill. did they vote for it? no, they did not. their focus was on the cultural issues, the hot-button issues
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like dr. suess or mr. potato head outside of attacking this bill other than saying it was too big. the white house is trying to capitalize on that. president biden is making a point when he goes to these -- on his help is here tour, meeting with republican mayors and governors who endorsed the program because it's delivering aid to their communities. and the white house believes this can be a real political ku -- they can use it to paint republicans out of washington, out of step with the needs of their constituents. >> do you think gop lawmakers will regret not backing this bill? you have people getting their checks, you have people getting their shots, all of which was provided for in this bill. are they going to regret it? >> it's very possible they may. i was with the president friday in atlanta and that trip sort of transformed into more of a tribute to those lost in those shootings in the atlanta area just a few days prior and a
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strong message of support for the asian-american community. while there, the president still did tout this bill and show americans what they would be receiving from it. georgia is the definition of a battleground. biden want it narrowly. both democrat senators, those were close races in the runoff. it gave democrats control of the senate and i think the president is going to ohio on tuesday. ohio is a state that's gone republican the last couple of times in the presidential election, really taking it to the people that live there and showing them what's there. those that i talked to, republicans think it's a loss, and biden claiming it a victory, but they think they can make a stronger opposition to the next several items on his agenda, whether that be immigration or gun control or a sweeping infrastructure and jobs package. >> last hour i was talking with washington congressman adam smith and he was using the word
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humanity relative to the biden administration approach to the border. why do you think the majority of americans are not warming up to that humanity-centered approach? >> well, this is certainly the first test of the biden white house. the first thing that seems to have caught them a little flat-footed, despite career officials warning them that the exit of the trump administration and his draconian immigration policies would be sort of seen as a signal that, hey, to those migrants in central america, many fleeing terrible conditions at home, that it was a signal that now is the time to try to make the journey to the united states. the biden administration has been clear, they're saying, the border is closed, don't come right now. we've certainly had real emphasis on that in recent days and that included the secretary of department of homeland security who made the rounds on the sunday talk shows delivering that message. you're right, so far the american republic hasn't bought what the biden administration
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has done at the border. the biden team says, give us time, we're ramping up, trying to undo what was done by the trump administration, we're building facilities to house these migrants, particularly migrant children who have come to the border. they say this is a situation they'll be able to get their hands on, they just need time to do it. but the situation at the border seems to grow more dire by the day. >> can i ask you about the president who is expected to hold his first press briefing on march 25th. do you know what made him decide to do this and make that announcement? was it because of criticism that he was far behind his predecessors in the timing? >> there are a few factors at play. the white house has said all along they wanted to get the covid relief bill done first before he had both a news conference or address to the joint session of congress. it's not state of the union in the president's first year in office, but he does still usually usually in february speak to both the house and the senate.
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that's not going to happen until april. yes, that news conference, and he's much slower to hold a formal news conference than most of his predecessors. that will be on thursday. they're sticking to the plan, they say, but no question they saw in the last couple of weeks the pressure really mount to hold a news conference. from reporters asking, we want to have access to the president, we want to ask him questions, and also from republicans and others -- and others on the political spectrum who are saying, look, it's time for president biden to do this. his predecessors did. they want to sort of put this issue to rest. they don't want it to be seen like they're trying to keep biden from the press. >> no pressure, but can you come back next weekend? just saying. thank you. good to see you, jonathan. >> i will see what i can do. >> okay. coming up next, i'll talk with mehdi hasan about why at least a dozen journalists are making a trip mar-a-lago. mar-a-lago. ahh, thank you!
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on tonight's show, combating hate and the attacks on america's asian communities. we'll talk with actress and activist olivia munn when "american voices request the "gets under way at 6:00 p.m. eastern. a new conflict is emerging about who's coming across the u.s. southern border. >> it's not just people from mexico or honduras or el salvador. they're now finding people from yemen, iran, turkey. people on the terrorist watch list they are catching. and they're rushing it all at once be. >> i can't go into it specifically because it is classified but he is distorting image, construing a lot of what's happening at the border to the point where it's more misinformation that is decided -- decidedly done to incite people and scare people. >> and joining me now is msnbc political analyst mehdi hasan, host of "the mehdi hasan show" on msnbc and streaming service
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peacock. let's get into this. and is this the same old gop angle using fear as a tactic? >> short answer, yes, it's a tactic that's been used before. donald trump talked about terrorists being inside of caravans, which there weren't. he talked about prayer rugs at the border, which is islamaphobe, and this is just the latest iteration in the post-trump era. kevin mccarthy going down to the border complaining about all this stuff. first of all, just a basic fact check. they haven't caught people on the terrorist watch list. they caught four people apparently, reportedly, with the same names as people on the terrorist watch list. alex, for your viewers, there are more than 1.1 million people on the fbi watch list. just having someone as the same name on that list -- u.s. customs have said southern border is not a major place of
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encounters with suspected terrorists. do you know how many americans have been injured or killed in the united states in a terrorist attack by someone who crossed at the southern border? zero, zilch, nada, none. it's complete fear mongering. the chances of being killed by a referee terrorists according to the cato institute is 1.3 billion. we covered it on our show. the terrorist threat in this country, according to the fbi, is a far-right domestic terrorist. that's what they don't want to talk about. >> is this all about political gain? are they overemphasizing all of this for that reason or is there to some degree a very real problem with the migrant surge? not necessarily a terrorism angle but the migrant surge? >>. >> for me there is a real problem in the sense there's a humanitarian problem, in the sense we have thousands of children there and we don't quite know how to handle them,
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we don't have the resources, the beds, we don't have a streamlined system to get these children to relatives. many come with relatives, but it's hard to get them to their relatives, hard to get them into foster care or chart charitable groups or churches. that needs to be streamlined and that's hopefully what the biden administration is going to do or trying to do. one good thing the biden administration has done is to allow family members to come and pick up children without having their own status being checked. what trump did is he arrested undocumented who arrived. they stopped that. there are huge problems in how children rbing treated, there's talk of not getting a shower for five days, not access to soap or not access to sunlight. we should condemn that, whether the president is donald trump or joseph r. biden. the real problem is the way the republicans are spinning this into a crisis as if there wasn't a crisis before january 20th. the crisis is not, there's lots of people coming because lots of people are applying for asylum.
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that's not a bad thing. the crisis is we have not had an honests conversation about immigration. there are far too many myths and lies told about the issue at the border. >> the issue is immigration reform, that's what needs to be done, comprehensive immigration reform. is this the administration to get it done? how many administrations have tried to do it in the past? >> many administrations, including george bush and republicans back in the day failed because of the filibuster, which i know you and i have talked about a great deal on this show and elsewhere. you can't get it done without filibuster reform, but this administration does want to get it done. look, important point here. when it comes to critics of the border and border control and surges and whatnot, you know, you're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't. on the one hand, many say, give people a chance to apply for asylum and have due process. they got rid of that, too. if they come in legally, we're told, we're tracking down on he'll migrants.
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come in illegally, well, you can't have people crossing the border without permission. the reality is last administration made it impossible to claim asylum. that's a real issue. that goes against our legal obligations. >> we've been referring to donald trump's administration. let's turn to him specifically. there are a number of new headlines. trump is expected to sit down for a number of interviews with authors. what do you make of this onslaught of upcoming books? what is the affect of books on trump other than keeping his name in the political conversation? >> well, of course, that's his interest. we know his whole strategy for the next four years, now that the senate refused to convict him and ban him from holding office, is he can play, pretending he's going to run in 2024 and make a lot of money in the meantime for himself and these businesses. yeah, these books will help him. how well they sell, who knows.
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what i find ironic, the people who are going to see him, these reporters are those he claims to have clashed with, and have been viciously attacked by him. jonathan karl, trump called him a third-rate reporter. michael wolf, who wrote that classic tell-all book at the beginning of the trump presidency, trump called him a fraud at the time. his people called a garbage book. all seems to have been resolved. maybe they kissed and made up because all three are going back to see trump. i wonder how both sides feel about it. i would feel distasteful about sitting down with someone who called me a liar and a third-rate reporter. also, what are they going to talk about? trump put out a statement yesterday again denying the election, again lying about the election result, again citing insurrection. that seems to me, that has to be at the center of any conversation with donald trump that you're going to have, if you're going to have one to begin with. >> can i make a suggestion for you, if you hate that kind of turning the other cheek,
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distasteful thing, don't go into politics. what you see is just remarkable. you said that and now i'm going to shake your hand? let me ask you about the upcoming interviews. there's a former trump aide telling politico, it's important for him to control his own narrative and utilize these mediums to share his thoughts and correct the record. when you take a look back at what happened, trump famously did 18 interviews with bob woodward for his book "rage." do you think he's likely to control his narrative, have a blunder or create a scandal? >> one of the advantages that critics of trump and opponents have always had, he's his worst enemy. for his political skills in getting ee elected, this maga force, he's always been his own enemy. these three authors, their books hurt him. it's his own narcissism that says, i can spin this in my own
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favor. the reason he didn't do many tv camera interviews, outside of fox is because he tripped up. he lies in every statement. he also says -- it was his interview with nbc news in 2016 that kicked off the mueller inquiry when he said, yeah, i was thinking about russia when i fired bob mueller which went against the administration. we'll see many blunders but we're beyond blunders with trump. mitch mcconnell even says he incited an attack on the capitol. i'm sorry, that has to be at the top of any list of questions, any list of issues, any writing done about this twice impeached, disgraced former president. >> here's something i cannot wait for tonight. 8:00. before you go, this back and forth you've had on twitter over immigration. you have republican texas congressman dan crenshaw who has accepted the invitation. he's coming on your show tonight. give us a bit of a preview of what that discussion is going to look like, mehdi. >> to be honest, i don't know. what i hope it will look like,
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because it's not all in my hands t takes two hands to clap, my plan, my hope is to have a substantive discussion, conversation, interview on the situation at the border because my view is that republicans are acting in bad faith in talking about this is a biden border crisis. they are trying to exempt donald trump and trump's horrific immigration legacy from critical examination. and i want to have that back and forth and really get the facts out there because my view and people can watch tonight, a lot of what we are being told about immigration, both sadly to say in the media and especially from the republican body, is just not true. i'm hoping it's a factual, good-faith, substantive conversation. whether it is or not, i guess we'll have to see at 8:00 tonight. >> i have to say, my money is on you. i really hope congressman crenshaw has done his homework because he's going to face you. we're going to watch, for sure. >> hope so, too. all of you can watch this go down tonight on "the mehdi hasan show" on msnbc tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern.
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