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hi, mehdi. >> thank you, alicia. tonight on "the mehdi hasan show," right now thousands are seeking asylum at the worder. what's the gop's plan? tonight, congressman dan crenshaw will take our debate on the show. donald trump is facing dozens of investigations. but will any of it put a former president behind bars? i'll talk to one of the country's top legal experts. let's call it like it is. america has a long anti-asian history. good evening. i'm mehdi hasan. today biden's defense secretary was in afghanistan trying to end
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a 23-year-old war. 3.1 million americans got vaccinations amid an ongoing pandemic. on friday, the president was in georgia trying to tackle anti-asian violence and mass shootings. here's biden's homeland security responding today. >> the border is closed. we are expelling families, we are expelling single adults and we made a decision not to expel young, vulnerable children. >> biden border crisis what the republican party is calling it. they point to the increase of migrants at the border. they look at the biden administration's detention of record 5,000 unaccompanied minors and asked whatever happened to all your concern over kids in cages? as i'll explain in a moment that's a self-serving interpretation of the numbers. it's incomplete and inaccurate at best, cynical and dishonest at worst. to be clear, joe biden hasn't gotten everything right on immigration. far from it. yes, he canceled the muslim ban
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and sent an immigration bill to congress on day one. as "the washington post" reports he was undoubtedly ill prepared for all of this. i don't think you should turn a blind eye simply because biden isn't trump. you saw me push ron klain on this very show on this very show last sunday. the children are being held in packed conditions with some sleeping on the floor. some have to wait five days or more to shower. they say your administration is blocking lawyers from accessing those facilities. look, this isn't family separation. i know that. but it's still an outrage and unacceptable, is it not? >> of course it's an outrage and it's unacceptable. we inherited a government that had allowed the number of beds to safely, humanely house these children, administered by the department of health and human services, office of refugee resettlement, allowed it to shrink to a record low number. now we have children arriving at these border patrol stations and no facilities. >> look, there are going to be,
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quote, unquote, surges whether the president's name is joe biden or donald trump, or barack obama. remember, two out of three unaccompanied kids come from the northern triangle, countries in central america, guatemala, honduras, el salvador, fleeing war, gangs, violence. i don't think we the media have done a good enough job of giving that context. so there are three crucial underreported points i want you to be aware of tonight. number one, something called title 42, a 19th century public health rule that trump used to instantly expel asylum seekers, trying to use the pandemic as justification. that has just led them to return quicker. the big, scary numbers you hear aren't real numbers. more than one in three of them are repeat crossers who get thrown out straight away. there's no open border. biden has kept trump's title 42 policy. you would think the right would be cheering him on for doing that. number two, good news. unlike trump, biden has refused to use title 42 against unaccompanied children.
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they're not being expelled as secretary mayorkas explained. that's the main reason why so many kids are in ae dense right now. number three, trump policies being hailed by republicans didn't actually work if your definition of work is cutting the asylum numbers willy-nilly. when i criticized congressman ben crenshaw on twitter, he responded by claiming the solution was remain in mexico and asylum cooperation agreements with the northern triangle countries. but the reality is remain in mexico affected only one in 20 migrants and the asylum cooperation agreements affected even fewer people. i can assure you that the back-to-back hurricanes, ada and iota, which battered central america and left 600,000 people homeless had a much bigger impact on our southern border than either of those two cruel and overrated policies that biden thankfully has canceled. my first guest disagrees.
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after our twitter exchange on friday, dan crenshaw graciously accepted my invitation to come on the show to debate this issue. and i know, you don't often see trump supporting republicans on here, partly because they don't want to come on. and we don't want to give platform to republicans who just want to call us fake news. and who want to own the libs. someone who has been described as, quote, the breakout star of the republican party's class of 2018. let's see. representative dan crenshaw from texas' second congressional district joins me now. good evening, congressman. thank you for joining me on the show after our online exchange. i appreciate it. i want to talk immigration with you. it's one of joe biden's biggest challenges since assuming office. before we go any further i need to check. you didn't vote to block certifying the election result, did you? you accept that joe biden is legitimately dealing with the border issue as president, that
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he won the presidential election? >> that's correct. >> okay, great. let's talk about what you and the republican party call the biden border crisis, this idea that he created it since coming to office. let me put up the numbers on the screen. you can see clearly from those numbers that since the pandemic and title 42 was brought in to expel asylum seekers, border apprehensions have gone up month after month. joe biden did not inherit falling numbers. he inherited nine consecutive months of increase at the border. it's right there on screen for single adults and families and kids. >> i'm not sure where you're getting your data from. in february there were 100,000 crossings. in november, there were about 800 people in custody, now there's about 10,000. migrants will tell you, as reporters are interviewing them, that joe biden invited them, the drug cartels are passing this information along.
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there were very specific policies that were reversed as soon as biden took office. as you mentioned, as i said in my twitter exchange, remain in mexico policy and importantly the asylum cooperation with northern triangle countries. this basically reinstates a process of catch and release. when people think they're going to come across the border as long as they have a child with them and they're going to be released, it's a huge incentive to come across, especially if they get a bus ticket wherever they want and a hotel room. because that's what's being funded. the incentives are pretty obvious. is this a sustainable policy and is it fair to millions and millions of people around the world that have valid asylum claim that are getting clogged in the system and can't get their claims heard? >> a lot of claims made there, which we'll try to unpack in the brief time we have. i don't know where you're getting the numbers from. let's pull up the graph again. that is from the american immigration council, based on cvp figures. if we pull up the graph i want you to have a look at that graph we just had.
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that's nine straight months, you can see there, title 42. >> i can't see the graph, but i can tell you, i just got off the phone with the chief of cvp. >> nine straight months of increases in immigrants apprehended at the border. >> just to be clear, you're just denying that this massive increase happened in the last couple of months? we're just denying that? >> no, i didn't deny there was a massive increase. i can agree there's a massive increase. can you agree there were nine months of increases prior to biden coming into office? >> i just got off the phone with a former cvp chiefs. there was about 1,000 people released into the u.s. -- >> okay. but there were nine months -- >> we agree there's a crisis now, right? we have that premise in common, right? there's a crisis now that needs to be reversed. can we agree on that premise? >> i'll come back to the crisis
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word in a moment. i just want to check something else you said. you made these claims on fox news last week. have a listen. >> this happened overnight, okay, when president biden rescinded the remain in mexico policy, when they rescinded the asylum cooperation agreements with the northern triangle countries. when they said we're not going to deport you when you come. so biden has the nerve to say quietly don't come, wink, don't come. don't come here. if you come here, we're going to give you a bus ticket wherever you want and not going to deport you. >> i'll come back to your asylum cooperations in a moment. but the rest of that is not true. how can you say the biden administration is not deporting people -- >> i didn't say that. i didn't say that. >> were expelled straight away. 72% of the people encountered at the border last month were apprehended were instantly expelled. how is what you said on fox true? >> over the course of 2020, 1,000 people came into the u.s.
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and were released into the interior of the u.s. in 2021, it's 20,000. this came straight out of border patrol. i was just down there a couple of weeks ago. there are very specific instances of policy reversals that have caused a massive spike in illegal immigration and people incentivized to come across our border. i'm not sure why we're debating that point i think we should debate what to do about it. >> i wonder why you went on fox and said people are not being deported. >> i didn't say that. >> -- when 72% of people apprehended at the border were deported. >> i never said nobody was getting deported. so our system works fairly well. you just played what i said and i didn't say that. >> i mean, you said -- hold on. hold on. you can't -- hold on. hold on. you said biden has the nerve to say don't come, wink. don't come here. we're going to give you a bus ticket wherever you want. we're not going to deport you.
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>> that's effectively -- thank you for proving me right in saying i didn't say he's not deporting anybody. this is complicated. let's unpack this. for single adults crossing the border, our system is still in tact, still works okay. single adults illegally crossing the border generally do get deported. family units are much more difficult to deal with. this has been the case since 2014. a court case called the there are -- called the flores settlement basically caused an incentive. this is why obama has dealt with it, trump has dealt with it. if you bring a child with you, you're going to be released into the interior, then they're going to have a bigger incentive to come. in the trump administration they said we're going to tell you to remain in mexico and adjudicate your claim there or even better, go to your home country or neighboring country and adjudicate your claim there so you don't have to go through these smuggling routes which are unsafe and run into the arms of the drug cartels.
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>> i promise we will come back to remain in mexico. i've got a question i want to get into. i need to deal with this first. you accept that 72% of people apprehended at the border are expelled? do you agree with that? >> sounds right but there's also 27,000 families that are released. >> hold on. hold on. then it's a lie to say there's an open border as republican leaders keep saying. that's false. if 72% of people are being deported how is that an open border? that's just a lie. >> the vast majority of people are in these family units that do not get reported. there's at least 1,000 a day -- >> that's not true. >> just got off the phone of border patrol. listen to what i'm about to say. 1,000 a day run away, people get away. you have to understand this, too. when border patrol is dealing with hundreds and hundreds of family units at a time, the drug car sell says, you pay $300 a
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person, you walk across there, turn yourself into border patrol and they're going to just let you go. that's exactly what happens. here is what happens. border patrol becomes babysitters, bus drivers, nurses. you know what doesn't happen? they're not patrolling the border. drug cartels love this. they're not talking points. they're facts. you need to go down there and see this for yourself. >> a cvp officer is not a babysitter. let me ask you this. >> they're being told to be. >> cannot be an open border if 72% of people are removed. that's nonsensical to claim that. you know that. i know that. >> but again, you're arguing with people -- if you want to accuse somebody else of -- i would say there's an effective open border. that's what i would say. if you want to accuse somebody else of saying things -- you haven't been able to fact check me on it, because i haven't said it. >> even though three quarters of migrants -- i'm fact checking you now. it's not an open border if the vast number of people get expelled. >> you should go down there and see for yourself. when hundreds of people -- this is at a single crossing point in
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stark county in texas. single crossing point, hundreds of people at night come across. >> let's talk about that. >> that's an effective open border. >> let's talk about the children. only the children who are not being turned away under title 42. biden changed the position. trump was expelling unaccompanied children under title 42, pandemic ruling and biden is saying children can stay. that's why there's a record number of children in detention. i think that's a good thing. you don't. you would rather expel unaccompanied children. you would rather tell the 4-year-old honduran boy back on his own. that's what you would do. >> we would never send him back on his own. the administration is lying about the process of title 42. they would have you believe -- mayorkas said we're not going to put orphans in the desert. nobody should. that's a good policy. don't do that. >> that's exactly what the --
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>> you just told a lie. that's not exactly what they were doing. you need to research this. you need to talk to border patrol and see what the actual process was. listen. when unaccompanied minors come across, they get processed, health care, housing, they get fed, they get on a charter plane. we ensure that they are met by government officials who then reunite them with family there. this process is extremely meticulous. nobody, no unaccompanied minor is just sent back. that has never been the process. you have to tell the truth about this! >> you are in favor of throwing them out? are you in favor of expelling unaccompanied minors, yes or no? >> would you like to change the law under title 42? let's argue about that. >> i'm happy that joe biden is not expelling children. are you happy about that? >> i don't think young -- i think young children who are truly orphaned at our border, we can take care of them and put them through health and human services. i want to give you another
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statistic, though. 75% of the supposed unaccompanied supposed minors are over 15 years old and vast majority are males. this is military age in a lot of countries south of the border. >> i mean, you're telling me -- >> let me ask you something -- a 4-year-old child, we should take care of. there's a difference between a 4-year-old crying child and a 17-year-old male. do you agree with that? >> how about 12-year-old child gustavo sent back to guatemala, where his family are not. unaccompanied child with learning difficulties. donald trump sent him back. that's a good thing we're not doing that. >> you don't think it's a good idea to reunite that person through government services in their home country with their family?
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>> he wasn't reunited with his family. >> how do you know? >> he wasn't reunited with his family unfortunately. >> how do you know? how did he end up at the border? >> maybe you should do some research to use your phrase. look up gustavo. let me ask you what we were talking about on twitter. on friday you said the solution to all the border issues are the trump policies, remain in mexico and asylum cooperation agreements with the northern triangular countries. remain in mexico policy out of 1.5 million people encountered at the border, less than 5%. that's hardly a solution. do you know how many migrants were sent to the u.s. by el salvador under these very importantly asylum cooperations, do you know the number? >> they're not sent. the point of an asylum cooperation agreement is you don't have to go through the human smuggling routes and claim asylum. you can do it at your home country. it's more humane to do that than saying pay off these drug cartels -- you know drug cartels are making $30 million a month off of these policies. now, to reference the mpp program you just talked about, yeah, they don't send everybody
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back through the mpp program. it's a portion of them. that's why it's such a small portion. that's also what got this situation -- it's an incentive structure. when people believe i might get sent back to mexico. i was going to claim asylum even though, you know, i don't really have a valid claim to it. there's less of an incentive to come across. >> says you. >> says the data. 10%, 20% end up being granted asylum. >> congressman, politifact checked you on that and said your claims are false. >> let's address that. let's address that. that's not a fact check. >> i need you to answer my question. how many people were sent to el salvador and honduras under the asylum cooperation agreement. >> it's not a send back kind of agreement. >> but how many were? how many were sent? >> i don't have data on me.
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>> roughly? >> again that policy -- >> zero. >> that's because it's not -- i just explained to you what the policy is. you're not listening. >> you're telling me that was the solution, that brought down the numbers. how could it bring down the numbers? >> you apply for asylum there. are you confused? >> nobody was ever sent -- congressman -- >> you're not understanding. you are not understanding. >> 194 people were sent to guatemala. >> it's not about sending people. it's about being able to apply there. it's not about sending people there. it's about applying while you're there. you are making this rough. you're confused about what that policy is. >> i've got to ask you this last question. >> the mpp program is about
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sending people back. >> you talk -- mpp, talk about it being a good way to stop smugglers, human rights groups have found 1500 people reports of abuse, kidnapping, murder, torture in mexico thanks to this program. people on that program. three out of four in the remain in mexico program were kidnapped. you're okay with the human cost of that program? the human cost? >> that's not caused by that program. that's caused by human smuggling issues. dhs investigated those claims and found -- by the way, those claims refer to about 1.5% of the total mpp population if we take them at face value. dhs investigated those claims and found that, yes, there's a possibility you're going to get assaulted. you might be back in human smuggling if you leave the state-run facilities in mexico. that's the truth. that's what the government investigation found. if you stay within the
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parameters of this facility, it was safe. and we should never want people to be unsafe. but also, you know -- and i've got to fact check your fact check there on the politico fact check. the fact remains 10% of northern tribal countries are adjudicated for granting asylum. that fact check was the other 90%. they claimed it's not because they're denied. that wasn't a fact check. >> i did look at the fact check and many people would argue the trump administration made it impossible to apply for asylum which is why we have this crisis. >> can i ask you a question? >> we're out of time. you made your point. my thanks to congressman dan crenshaw for coming on the show tonight. thank you for taking the time out. >> any time. >> thank you for your time. >> any time. thanks for having me. coming up, we're warming up my one-minute timer. the american health care system
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breaking news coming in on the january 6th attack. in a new interview with "60 minutes," investigator say sas they have enough evidence to charge suspects with sedition. the prosecutor commented on the case against former president trump, claiming his office is still examining the former president's role in inciting the attack. 29 pending lawsuits against him already. some cases include -- seeking damages from trump's ties to the capitol insurrection on january 6th. although, no charges have been filed against him in any of these investigations yet.
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prosecutors appear to be closing in on their case in manhattan. on friday, the former daughter-in-law of the trump organization's chief financial officer told nbc news she's spoken with investigators multiple times. outside of the trump family, alan weiselberg is one with the most understanding of the organization's inner financial workers. >> what do you think he could tell investigators? >> everything they would ask. >> do you think he could be the ultimate tour guide into the trump orbit? >> yes! >> joining me to discuss all this is one of the country's finest legal minds. thanks for coming on the show. which of the 29 cases against trump has the best shot at holding him accountable, in your view? are there some lawsuits you see as more important than others, say the fulton county d.a.'s election case? >> well, you would have to put them in different buckets.
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the financial cases are very strong. but they won't hold him accountable for his abuses as president. the ones that are really serious in that respect are the fulton county prosecution, which is a prosecution for basically trying to steal the georgia election, and the prosecutions that might occur under federal law. there are two key provisions of title 18 of u.s. code. one which you referenced earlier, u.s. codes 2384, that is conspiracy to commit sedition, a fancy way of talking about trying to prevent the government from functioning. that is punishable by 20 years in prison. the more serious one, interestingly, is punishable by only 10 years, but permanent disqualification from ever holding any state or federal office.
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that's title 18, u.s. code 2383. that's the one where it seems to point to the president's guilt. that applies to anyone who gives aid or comfort to insurrection or rebellion. the facts as they are emerging, and i would count on an inquiry supervised by merrick garland as attorney general to see if the evidence really points there. it looks like the evidence supports a conclusion that the president and people immediately around him directly gave aid and comfort to an insurrection against the united states to prevent the government from functioning and to prevent the installation of a new president through the counting of the electoral votes january 6th. those are incredibly serious, far more serious than the financial crimes which really have nothing to do with the president's office.
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>> no. i totally agree with you on that. tonight's reporting out of "60 minutes," talking about trump's potential role in all of this is fascinating. there's the election case, you mentioned the georgia election case. the trump team have tried to muddy the water in georgia, pointing out misreporting of trump's talking with the georgia investigator. but he's still on tape with the secretary of state raffensperger. we all heard it. it seemed that he was trying to interfere in the election process. >> it's very hard to understand that conversation any other way when he says you and your lawyer are going to be in basically criminal trouble if you don't somehow, quote, find, unquote one more vote than the number by which i lost to biden, according to your count. so, finding one extra vote, that's just code for give me a victory that i didn't win, or
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else you're in trouble. that's really strong arming, that's extortion, violation of the election laws. we saw it happen in real time and we heard wit our own ears. so it's really hard -- >> you're an expert not just on the law, but on legal history. answer me this. do we have any precedent? not in u.s. history, we certainly don't. to see a u.s. president put behind bars, i look around the world. we see it happen in israel, france, anywhere else. can the american public really be up to seeing a former president be put in prison? >> i'm not advocating any particular outcome yet. it seems to me that's alice in wonderland. let's have the investigation first. conduct a trial if the evidence warrants, then discuss the question of what sentence is appropriate.
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people say it's terrible to imagine donald trump in an orange jumpsuit really are not exploring the question, what's the meaning of letting donald trump just go free? any other citizen, especially one with enormous power, who tried to do what he did, who tried to stop the installation of the next president, the transition of power that is the hall marc of democracy should not go off scot-free. the idea to turn the page and move on and say that there's no accountability for anything except his crooked finances would be a terrible mistake. we have to follow the evidence where it leads. >> yeah. >> and fellow the law where it points. it seems to me then we can decide which is worse, seeing a former president in jail or let
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him go free and return and try to steal the next election and maybe the last election in american history. it's a danger to democracy to simply turn the page. >> accountability, as you say, is what matters more than anything else. lawrence tribe, thank you for your insights tonight. appreciate it. >> thank you. up next, if the wave of hate hitting the asian-american community took you by surprise, well, you haven't been paying attention. it's personal for "cobra chi" star tamlyn tomita. she joins me next. first, richard is here with the headlines. hey, richard. some of the stories, the city of miami aech is extending emergency restrictions due to spring break crowds. a curfew is in effect from 8:00 p.m. to 6:00 a.m. there's an exception for restaurant delivery services. the rules stay in place until at least the end of march. a 3,000-foot wide asteroid is passing by earth today, the
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largest space rock to fly by so far this year, only traveling at 77,000 miles per hour at more than 1 million miles away, don't worry, says nasa, there's no threat of a collision with earth. major league baseball game will be broadcast from the site of field of dreams. new york yankees will play the chicago white sox. they'll take the temporary ballpark at the iowa location with the capacity of 8,000 hungry fans. more of the mehdi hasan show after this break.
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asian descent. seven were women. the shootings took place in businesses owned by asian-americans. the shootings took place as violent hate crimes and discrimination against asian-americans has risen dramatically over the last year and more. >> the vice president said the facts are clear. over the last year, more than 3,700 anti-asian hate incidents were reported. asian women made up a far larger share of those reports. 68%. joining me now is -- tamlcn tomita. she's a japanese-american actress. we saw her on-screen in "cobra chi" most recently. thank you for coming on the show. i want to get your reaction to what happened in georgia this past week. how did you feel when you heard that horrific news? >> my man, mehdi, thank you so much for having me. as with so many other persons across this country that we're
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going through waves of grief, rage, sadness, the confirmation that our paranoia is real, that people are out there targeting us as asian-american women and our elders who are easy targets for persons who are going through a traumatic period of coronavirus and the previous administration labeling us as such. and we've been activated, energized, exhausted but still galvanized as a community, as with other people of color. >> asian-women make up 60% of the hate incidents from the past year. have you been affected personally or in your professional life with this kind of anti-asian racism that's been given a pass for far too long? >> mehdi, you are bringing up a lot of things that i have not been able to talk about outside my own family.
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the fact that i was grabbed -- [ muted ] and touched because people wanted to check out if it was true by asian womens. the sexualization, hyper sexualization of asian women are true, with the love, honor and surprise of receiving the re-enactment of "cobra chi," i have a memory of a message on the answering on from the '80s saying i'm going to f you and then i'm going to f you over. because who do you think you are, komiko? so this is the kind of baggage that not only me, but so many other asian-american women
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carry. >> and i'm so sorry that you've had to carry. and it's horrifying and so sad to hear what people like yourself had to go through. you mentioned baggage as well. this is not some 19800st, '90s, 2000s. this is part of this country's history. you talked about after learning about the internment of japanese-americans during world war ii. and your father said he was a victim of that. what was that like for you to discover that as a kid? >> it was shocking. you're reading u.s. history and a small paragraph that 120,000 japanese americans were interned on the west coast and you think, oh, my god, dad, did that happen to you? yes. the shock of it all. what happened and why? this is our own u.s. government interning, imprisoning, incarcerating americans of japanese descent merely because of how they look. as we go back into our asian-american histories, there
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are histories that are not told. history is not about the past. it's about the stories we tell about the past, according to grace lee boggs. we're trying to uncover them and find that these acts of discrimination have occurred not only with asian-americans but black americans, latino americans, lgbtq, with indigenous americans and we're all finding out together. we're trying to link together in solidarity to tell all the layers of stories, the lasagna timeline of our history. >> i'm so glad you're doing that and briefly we could give you a platform to talk about that. are we going to see you in season four of "cobra kai"? >> wish me luck, mehdi because i'm with you as well. >> we're all with you. tamlyn tomito, thank you for joining us tonight. >> thank you, mehdi hasan. thank you. >> coming up, i had a lot on my mind about health care in america. makes no sense to me.
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at northwestern mutual, our version of financial planning helps you live your dreams today. as hr one moves to the senate, republicans are amplifying their attack on expanding voter access. last week during an invitation only call obtained by the press, ted cruz said democrats are trying to expand voting rights to quote, illegal aliens, and i kid you not, child molesters. when asked if there was room to compromise cruz answered with a resounding no. according to the brennan center of justice, more than 2340 bills have been introduced to restrict voting rights. it has galvanized republicans. in unifying the party, voter suppression has eclipsed their traditional issues like abortion, gun rights and tax cuts. joining me from georgia, ground zero in the attack on setting
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rights is the chromatoof the new georgia project. i want to begin by getting your reaction to those absurd comments by ted cruz that democrats are trying to get illegal aliens and child molesters to vote in elections. >> i think that's it. it's absurd. those are the desperate cries of a desperate man on behalf of a desperate party that is searching for relevance and doing everything within their power to hand onto power while more and more americans are rejecting their politics of white nationalism. >> so you are on the ground in georgia, custom is ground zero, as i said, for the voter suppression effort in this country for obvious reasons. what is your strategy and your fellow activist' strategy to prevent these bills this the georgia state legislature from becoming law? >> it is a full-on campaign to protect democracy. one, while georgia is recognized as ground zero i think it is
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absolutely important that we recognize it is happening in 43 states, that it is coordinated. >> yes. >> that it is organized, that it is well funded. we recently learned at heritage action, the advocacy arm of heritage foundation they are spending money on adds to support these bills in georgia alone. what we need to understand is that you know we are going after obviously trying make the argument to republican legislators saying this is not dwad for our democracy. yaya is home to 18 fortune 500 companies. we have identified six or seven of them who have given over $7 million to the republican vote suppressives. the message is don't give your profits to fund the republican vote suppression. and hr-1, hr-4, that we need a
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federal standard for elections because fighting in 43 legislators -- >> so -- >> sorry. >> you are making the point about hr-1. i have to ask, what are the stakes if they don't pass the senate because of the filibuster? >> right. i think that we are going to be in for more violent, angry politics of white nationalism. i think that the -- people think that we have gotten rid of the politics of the former president because he got kicked off of twitter or because particler got kibd out of the app stores. but there is still organizing happening amongst these proponents of the big lie. so we are in the going to be able to get anything done in terms of the proorts of the american people, restarting the economy, getting vaccined distributesed, et cetera, if we do not fix this. if we do not protect our democracy. if we do not pass hr-1, now s-1.
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>> and we have had attacks on voting rights before. just remind our viewers how different, how unprecedented this current wave is. >> well, i mean, i would like to say that it is unprecedented, but it's really important to point out today quite frankly is the first day -- the anniversary of the first day of the march in selma, the selma march for voting rights n 1965. that was not a long time ago. that was 56 years ago. so there is precedent for this. but there is also precedent for the federal government stepping in and protecting human rights, protecting civil rights when the states couldn't or wouldn't. >> yeah. i'm glad you corrected me. i meant unprecedented in the modern era because clearly it is precedented in this country. but in the modern asia, as you mentioned, 250 bills in 43 states -- are you going to win this fight? >> we have to win this fight,
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collectively. it is far too important to the sort of hopes and dreams, the ability to govern. we have to win this fight. again, whiia while georgia is considered ground zero and national republicans are continuing to spend money to perpetuate the big lie that the former president lost because of voter fraud -- 43 states -- that's the majority of the states in our country, we are seeing anti-voting bills. we are also beginning to see anti-protesting bills. so with this attack on sort the sacred fundamental right to vote, this attack on the first amendment, i shudder to think the kind of country we will be. >> yeah. same here. thank you so much for coming on the show tonight. it is a big issue for the country. for you and me, and for this show, as i said before. appreciate your time. >> thank you, medhi. >> to the rest of you watching at home, we'll be right back
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here next sunday at 8:00 p.m. eastern. you can catch me mouns through thursdays at w7 p.m. eastern on the choice, nbc's streaming channel, peacock. now it is time to turn it every to joshua johnson, good evening. >> i have got to know what's on your mind about that conversation with congressman crenshaw? that was pretty hot. did he answer your questions? did you ge out of that what you wanted. >> i don't think i did. but we tried. i think he tried. there was a lot of factually inaccurate answers we try the do our best to hold these people to account. it is hard in any medium, but we try. >> i appreciate you talking to someone who you disagree with giving him a chance to engage. something we will discuss later in the. practice. have a good night. interesting conversation. america is slowly getting ahead of covid-19, but michigan is facing an alarming rise in
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cases. governor gretchen with itmer is here to sman how her state will deal with the surge. plus federal officials say they have not yet found proof that the attacks in land lab fit the federal definition of a hate crime. why is that? tonight protests continue across america condemning attacks against asian-americans including last week's fatal shootings in the atlanta area. we will have an update. march madness was one of covid's first casualties. now it is back, with some dramatic changes. one team advanced to the next round without even having to play. from no. news world headquarters in new york. i'm joshua johnson. welcome to the weekend.
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