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hi, everyone. it is 4:00 in the east. i'm alex wagner in for nicolle wallace. the today an unscripted president biden drew a line in the sand for what he called decency verse cruelty, on a crisis that's brought some of the most wrenching images in the last few years. unpolicy jet lick declaring compassion as a centerpiece of his policy on migration. an outcry over conditions at the southern border consuming president biden's longawaited press conference. biden announced today, before
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taking questions, he has doubled his vaccination goal to 200 million shots in his first 100 days in office, but not one question related to covid was asked today by the reporters in the room. as a cascade of unforeseen tragedies riled this moment -- gun violence, racial injugs and especially the border, which the white house insists is not a crisis at all. biden addressing concerns of his critics that his more compassionate stance on unaccompanied minors and rollbacks of what his administration called the cruellest from the trump administration is prompts more migrants. and he called it a seasonal problem, he also reattitudesed to apologize for factors humanity into his approach on children at the border.
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>> the idea that i'm going to say -- which i would never do -- an un'companied child ends up at the border, we're going to let them starve to death and stay on the other side. no previous administration did that either, except trump. i'm not going to do it. i'm not going to do it. a 9-year-old, i'm going to send him on a 1,000-mile journey across the desert up to the united states, because i know joe biden is a nice guy, and he'll take care of him. what a desperate act to have to take. the circumstances must be horrible. rolling back the policies of separating children from their mothers, i make no apology for that. rolling back the policies of remaining in mexico sitting on the edge of the rio grande in a muddy circumstance with not enough to eat, i make no apologies for that. i make no apologies for ending programs that did not exist
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before trump became president that have an incredibly negative impact on the law, international law, as well as on human dignity. so i make no apology foss that. not only did president biden make a direct moral distinction between himself and the former guy, biden also explicitly blamed him for implementing policies that worsened the border issue and intensified the problem later dumped in biden's lap. >> by the way, does anybody suggest that there was a 31% increase under trump because he's a nice guy? he dismantled all the limits that exist to deal with what had been a problem and has continued to be a problem for a long time. he in fact shut down the number of beds available. he did not fund hhs to get people to get the children out of those border patrol facilities.
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they're not supposed to be there more than a few days, a little while. he dismantled all of that. what we're doing now is attempting to rebuild, rebuild the system that can accommodate what is happening today. it's happened every year. we're building back up the capacity that should have been maintained and build upon that trump dismantled. it's going to take time. joe biden's defiance against politics of cruelty at the border is where we start today "new york times" white house reporters and msnbc contributor annie karney is here. also with us political strategist and founder of country over party, matthew daoud, and jason johnson is here, a professor at morgan state university. annie, let me start with you. there was a fair amount of anticipation, probably no small
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amount of trepidation a some white house staff about this first presidential press conference. they was unapologetic and he spoke from the heart. how did you assess his performance? >> he did. i think overall, he did little to fuel the narrative on the right that there is something wrong with his mental acuity he shod that he can speak unscripted. i don't think this white house intended to spent so much time on immigration, to spend no time on no questions about the coronavirus, and i saw, you know, in the aftermath of the press conference white house chief of staff ron klain retweeting criticism of the press for not focusing on the
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issue that's most important to most american people. i talked to white house advisers who think the border issue obviously is a huge problem, it's one they need to address, but they don't think this is what is keeping most americans up at night. i think overall biden's performance is probably pleasing his advisers. the subject that dominated was not necessarily what they hoped would be the focus of this first news conference. >> matthew, it's hard to be defiantly compassionate, but that's kind of the way it felt today when you listen to biden at the podium. >> absolutely. everybody knows he's a completely empathetic person. he knows he has great care and compassion, but i thought he did that in a very good way. he's trying to clean up a mess that was created before him. the first thing you do is see what the mess is. when you see what the mess is and try to deal with it, then people sort of quickly want to
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go -- why aren't you dealing with the mess in a much faster fashion. i think he spoke about it. i think the people coming here know that there's much more of an idea that there's going to be a receptive government that's more compassionate than the last four years, so in that way, i think he exuded it, but i want to emphasis a point made sooner. i don't think a lot of the questions were questions if the american public would have asked if they were seated in the room. i think there would have been at least one question if not multiwall questions about covid, questions about the economy, and i don't think anybody would have asked the question if he was going to run for reelection. the yes it was dominated by immigration, but i don't think it was dominated by the questions the american public has. >> you can't sense a level of frustration. the president clearly frustrated at the basic nature of the question. let's play that exchange. >> the customs and border
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protection facility in tex, i was there, 1556% capacity. is what's happening inside acceptable to you? and when is this going to be fixed? >> that's a serious question, right? is it acceptable to me? come on. that's why we're going to be moving a thousand of those kids out quickly. that's why i got fort bliss opened up. that's why i started to find additional access for children to be safely be housed while we follow through on the rest of what's happening. it's totally unacceptable. >> jason, i feel like it's a very effective response. of course this isn't acceptable to me. not only does it give you insight into joe biden's understanding of the situation, it's also a very sharp contrast with the words of his
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predecessor, we'll play those in a second. >> he could have thrown in ma larky, very joe biden-like, why are we having they questions? but i want to go along with what other people said. i watched this press conference with my students. i had to explain to them why talking about immigration was such a big deal. they're not think being that. a bunch of 19, 20, 21-year-olds, some of whom will be graduating this year, are wonder if school will be open this fall, they want to know about stimulus checks. they want to know about covid. i think joe biden did well with what he was given. he got a somewhat mediocre script and knocked it out of the park. but it's based on the current news cycle, and now what he was doing right now.
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why weren't there more questions about the filibuster? biden sort of wiggled on that. we could have gotten much more out of the press conference if those questions were asked. >> annie, if the biden administration was listening to what jason is saying, they would be delighted. i don't think they want to particular talk about the border situation. they would much rathero rather by talking about covid, a plan for opening schools and mass vaccinations. >> i think they would also be happy that the controversy being discussed in the immediate aftermath of the press conference is what questions were asked, not some gaffe that he made. i understand -- i would defend some questions about whether he'll seek reelection. you know, he's the oldest president to sit in office. it is an over-arching question.
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it determines how he governs, how long he has to push through major ambitious policies. does he have two years? four years? eight years? so i think i would defend that question as relevant, even if it doesn't seem like it's about shots and checks, which i agree is the main concern of the american people right now. i think it's important and relevant to how he can govern. >> well, i mean, i think if we talk about -- without being too naval-gazing, if we talk about one -- it must be said, previously presidential press conferences this a lot of controversy in them. this is the first one of a new era. i think you're seeing a learning curve. this administration has not been as dramatic as the last one. i think there's a hangover on that front as far as the press's ability to navigate that.
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>> they're not used to substance. the press has spent four years in playing a game where they were either getting called names or figuring out what names donald trump was going to call something, and having to deal with the substantive part of the issue. i'll just push back on this, having been involved in politics and also on the media side, i think it's a valid question after a midterm, i don't think it's a question in the first 100 days with the controversies and everything going around. people can ask whatever question they want and the president has to deal with it, but there's no other answer the president would give. he wasn't going to announce 3 1/2 years left in his term or more that he was not going to run for reelection. that was not going to happen. it's my view -- i thought him asking the first question of the associated press reporter was so important, because it was like, oh, we're back to normal. the first question goes to the
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a.p. reporter, just like in previous press conferences. so i think they'll get used to that in the course of this. i do think that the press, who mainly occupy washington, d.c. and mainly occupy the debate that goes on on capitol hill, has to get out more of that bubble, because the debate and the conversation that's going on on capitol hill is not the conversation that a lot of times that's going on a households around america. >> jason, i do think it's important, to the issue that was central in this press conference, to contrast the styles and the responses, the morality that was on display in the last season of presidential politics and this season. this is president trump in 2018 talks about migrant children at the border. >> we have the worst immigration laws of any country anywhere in the world, but they exploited the loopholes in our laws to enter the country as
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unaccompanied alien minors. they look so innocent. they're not innocent. >> you know, they look so innocent, they're not innocent. that just brings to the forewhat was the governing thesis of the trump administration. a brilliant article written by andrew serwer was the point. if you listen to the alternate version for the biden administration is compassion is the point. right. alex, it's also common sense. i thought joe biden's answer, look, part of why people come up here is things are screwed up in their home country. how about rather than sending millions of dollars, we put up straight lights in difficult cities. we provide resources for transportation. i thought he had a very practical answer. immigration is a very, very complex issue that usually is only discussed in american politics in sort of racial
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rhetoric or questions about -- when it's really an economics issue. i thought he did a good job of answering an economic question and also being moral. but i also want to say this in the context. i don't know if it's seasonal. i don't know that. i'm not an expert on demography. but it is reasonable to assume when you have a president who bases his entire campaign on morality and decency, while i don't necessarily think there was, at the report asked, i don't think moernts are sillen around saying joe biden is a nice guy, go up there, i do think that because he's running a competent administration that's not based on cruelty or white nationalism would allow people to risk it until him in a way he wouldn't before. that's not something he should be criticized for, but praised for. >> there is the sort of desire on the part of this
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administration to be compassionate, to be common sense, to be healing, and then there is the reality of politics. there is the fact of the matter that this desire to be in the middle, to be a consensus builder, to be a healer, to not increase the temperature of a very, very hot political landscape, the reality is we're barreling towards a reckoning because of where the republican party is at. >> exactly. joe biden has dropped into a situation where what the republicans are representing in washington, d.c. is completely out of step with where the majority of america are. a perfect example is 75% of the company supports raising the minimum wage. 75% is for making voting easier, and 75% want something done on
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gun reform, none of which -- none of which the republicans are allowing to do. joe biden has built a consensus abroad in america, he just didn't have the consensus in washington because of the obstructionism of the republicans. the filibuster is the center of that problem. he has walked into a dysfunctional system because the republican party no longer wants to appeal to a majority of america. >> you know, annie, the president made an allusion to polling numbers in this press conference, and they clearly believe they have the goodwill and the support of the american people, the american voter, regarding of party, the numbers are high enough they can continue on this tack. i get i wonder how long they think that can happen, how long we think the numbers can stay where they are, that he can stoke the goodwill of the people. it has widespread support, not
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necessarily a controversial topic, in terms of its price tag in the coming weeks. what do you make of that strategy? >> well, i think this is the big question. bipartisan exists, just not in congress where republican lawmakers seem out of step with their own constituents. that being said, these proposals require votes in congress. it remains to be seen how he can get everything he needs to get done through reconciliation. we also saw today a reality at play. days after another mass shooting, what is he going to do on gun legislation? his answer was probably depressing to gun safety advocates, but it was honest. basically it was, this is not at all a priority right now,
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because we can't get anything done. i mean, his answer to a question about what are you doing on guns was a long-winded answer that we're doing infrastructure. it was clear he knows what congress he's working with, and he's realistic about what is possible, but yeah, i mean, the big over-arching political question is when -- what bipartisan means across the country will catch up with republican lawmakers who get elected to represent the country. >> that is the $3 trillion question. thank you all for starting us off. when we come back, president biden calling republican attempts to undermine democracy despicable and sick, and one of our next guests says the senate doesn't act, it is officially racist, too. and with the president's pledge to double his vaccine goal by may, will that be enough to beat out the rising number of
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waiting to vote? deciding you're going to end voting at 5:00 when working people are just getting off work? deciding that there's no absentee ballots until the most ridge i had circumstances? the republican voters i know find this despicable. >> that was president biden in his first the president did say he believes in the art of the possible, hoping to work with the senate on the for the people act, which would be the most significant voting rights billing since the civil rights era. but what path forward exists for legislation that democrats say is critical to preserving american democracy?
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joining me is kirsten gillibrand and reverend al sharpton. senator, let me begin with you. are there republicans that can be convinced to work with democrats on this at this point? i know i've been working on a bill that was authored originally with john lewis. so i think this is the kind of thing that's urgened and necessary, and if we have to revise and reform the filibuster, we should do that. >> do you think that's the inevitable conclusion here? >> i do. and guarantees voting rights for everyone, but i haven't seen
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mitch mcconnell care and i think he opposes most of the things we are for. i think we should try, it's important to do so, but if we fail we should probably voting rights. it's the most sacred part of our democracy. it's worth fighting for and taking the massive risks, when we do reform the filibuster. >> the president didn't seem to want to say he wanted to get rid of the filibuster. he wouldn't explicitly say it. were you satisfied with the way he answered the questions today? >> i would certainly hope he would say -- he didn't say he was going to fight to sustain it. what i am saying, though, is that many of us in the civil rights community need to put pressure on some of those blocking any kind of filibuster
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reform, including some of those like senator manchin and others that have been less than forthright on this issue. we're talking about a technique that has been used since the 1800s in mostly civil rights, racial or voting rights issue. this is a tool of segregationists. we should not act like this is just something that is any way divorced or separate from those that have alleges wanted to use it as a way to block the senate and belong the congress from given fair and equal rights to black people and other people of color. here we are, in a day of reflection in this country from george floyd to what has happened to asian-americans, debating about whether or not we are going to get rid of the senate tool that's always preserved segregation? i think it's something we have
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to take head-on and not be apologetic about it. >> reverend, you have been putting pressure on democrats like joe manchin who have expressed reluctance in terms of getting rid of the filibuster. do you think with enough pressure he could see the light, if you will? >> we're going to be reaching out to several people, saying that from the ground up, they need to understand the significance and importance. we're not attacking them. we're stopping them from attacking us. you are looking at the possibilities that states, as the president said, are talking about given people misdemeanors for passing out water on lines of voters and people bringing food, for them stopping sunday souls to the polls. we're stopping them from attacking us from using the right to vote that are dipped in
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the blood of civil rights bodies. how can you mourn john lewis and sit there and keep a filibuster when states are telling you we're going to strip them of their rights? this is not some paranoia. this is not some possibility. these pieces of legislation are in state legislators' houses now, right now. we need to deal with this. the only way to deal with it to get rid of the filibuster. >> there's a lot of racism on both sides of this, right? the racist voting restrictions floating all over the country and then there is the filibuster used to prevent amelioration of those. ten times, there's a litany of the ways in this the filibuster is used to promote racial -- starting in 1874 all the way to 1976. senator, the president was asked
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today, did he concur with president obama's assessment that the filibuster was -- >> regarding the filibuster, at john lewis' funeral, president obama believe the filibuster was a relic of the jim crow area? >> yes. >> reporter: if not, why -- >> successful politics is the art of possible. let's figure out how to get this done and move in the direction of significantly changing the abuse of the filibuster rule, first. it's been abused from the time it came into being by an extreme way in the last 20 years. let's deal with the abuse first. >> reporter: it sounds like you're moving closer to eliminating the filibuster. is that correct?
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>> i answered your question. senator, there was a long pause, right? before he gets to the meat of his answer. you almost sense he's calculating where joe manchin and kristin sinema are a this. how do i say something to put pressure, but not imperil them? what is the appetite for a more limited restriction, the talking filibuster, or using it in only certain situations. >> i think the caucus will wrestle with this, but there are great risks with eliminating the filibuster. when we are in the minority, which inevitably does happen, the issues we care most about will be harmed. you just watch what president trump did with his first 100 days and the amount of regulations he poured out of his administration that were so
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hateful and so destructive and so harmful. so that is why there is pause. i think there's many people, like president biden, who wants to think it through, who want to understand the risks, understand what it will take and then make a decision. i think that's appropriate. i agree with reverend sharpton, the filibuster has been used in racist ways, has been used toe harm minorities all across this country and has a terrible legacy. i agree 100%. i support eliminating the filibuster, because i have done the analysis. i have weighed the risks. i know the things i care deeply about are at risk, but i know we have urgent crises in this country that we are obligated to address now. i cannot overstate how important voting rights are in this moment we are in. we have one chance to secure voting rights for this country,
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and we should take it. it's urgent. we have a gun violence crisis all across this country. we've been trying to work with republicans on a bipartisan basis on common-sense gun reform for the ten years i've been in the senate. i watched after sandy hook, unable to pass background checks, on anti-trafficking laws. i've seen families who have suffered so deep by because of gun violence in our communities in new york city. these are just two examples of the kind of urgent issues that frankly deserve a vote and deserve an up or down vote at 51. if the only way we get votes on these issues, is by abolishing an arcane procedure, we should do that, but it may take time to work through all the risks, concerns, and talk through it with our colleagues. i want to be respectful of that
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process. that is an important deliberative process, and i support it, but it is the moment to govern, make a difference and help people. that's what i'm focused on doing. >> i can hear the anguish in senator gillibrand's point, which is a filibuster-less senate. do you share any of that trepidation? >> we are mindful of what the senator is saying, there may be danger down the road, but what i am saying, alex, and to the senator, there's danger right now. we're talking about what is happening right now. right now they are undermining our voting rights with legislatures all across the country. we've seen 18 people killed with no gun legislation. we can all be concerned about what might happen, but it shouldn't be at the expense of
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what is happening on right now. on monday we're starting the trial around george floyd. i think we need to be clear on what we're dealing with and need to be clear with the immediate times call for immediate action and eradicating the filibuster would deal with the immediate problems. >> i do respect that view, and i do agree that we are in an urgent crisis. those two issues paired both voting rights and gun violence, require a response now. no one knows this better than reverend sharpton. he's been fighting for this for his entire life. what we are seeing in these republican legislatures around the country is abhorrent. it will undermine people's rights to vote for generations if we don't stop it now. >> i agree. that's where i come down on where reverend sharpton does, it has to be done and it is urgent. we know where new york is on this issue.
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that is, we will by my 100th day in office have ar marched 200 million shots in arms. 200 million shots in 100 days. i know it's ambitious, twice our original goal, no other country has come even close to what we are doing. today the biden administration is announcing ramped-up covid vaccination efforts and goals, targeting a new target for the first 100 days. double the administration's prior goal, which he accomplished in less than 60 days in office. biden is also allocating billions more to make that happen, $100 million to the 200,000-strong volunteer medical team which has a pillar of the strategy, and another 10 million to explain vaccine access. it comes as experts warn we have a long way to go, cautioning about spring-breakers and rates
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of new infections on the rise this 26 states. joining us is dr. could vi kavi. first, let me get your shots from the announcements from the white house today. >> yeah, good to be with you, alex. i think it's incredible. we're all looking for the light at the end of the tunnel. i'll be honest. when president biden said 100 million shots in 100 days, i thought e.o. don't promise that. we might not be able to do it. notice the states scramble to try to beat the president's goal. they don't want to look like they're falling behind, so i think this is great. it's going to hopefully motivate almost every single state to epps up eligibility and match the supply we know we'll have. remember, the shots themselves don't save lives, getting them
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into people's arms do, and that's not necessarily an easy task. >> that's where, you know, the money for these medical teams in hard-hit areas, low-income communities, that seems to be a meaningful difference. what's your opinion on that? >> i work at a center in maryland kind of rooted in the latinx community, and we're got -- getting more and more supply, but allowing us to get to scale, it would involve us to go into community-based settings, apartment complexes, parking lots where people come and go on weekends. that gets us to where people are. we see people desperate to get vaccines, but remember there's a lot of americans out there, hard to navigate the internet, hard to navigate these portals, and
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frankly working two, three jobs. i think the 10 million combined with what was in previous stimulus plans will go a long way to get that goal accomplished. >> tell me how you think wore doing, an expectation we can meet it. on the other hand we have information that cases are risings in 26 states and we may be in the fourth wave of covid-19. do we score an "f"? where are we in battling this pandemic? >> i think it's possible, alex to be both doing a great job on our vaccination targets and also be fighting this pandemic literally tooth and nail with almost half the country, as you stated, seeing rises in cases. in terms of giving our country a grate, i think we're on a "b"
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and rising. we're now achieves vaccination rates, especially in some populations that were at risks. we're getting over the age of 65, people with chronic conditions, that population is getting vaccinated. that's make an impact. because of variants originating outside the united states, we are definitely in a race against these variants, which is why i give it a "b." but in terms of other countries, we are leading the pace. this will be incredible, but in terms of where we are in the world, until the global supply of vaccines and vaccination rates globally reaches a certain pace, which we're not anywhere close to, we are probably going to always have these fits and spurts. so this rise in cases is not going to be a fourth surge,
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where they're talking about lockdowns, but we are going to have rising cases, which means, unfortunately, more hospitalizations and more people dying. >> i'm going to choose to be optimistic about this and say what i said to my parents in high school which is -- a "b" sounds good to me. tech companies, are they headed for a shake-up? that was the focus on the hill today. we will fill you in, next. focul today. we will fill you in, next.
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i want to start by asking all three of you if your platform bears some responsibility for disseminating disinformation related to the election and the stop the steal movement that led to the attack on the capitol? just a yes or no answer. mr. zuckerberg? >> chairman, i think our responsibility is to build systems that can -- >> is that a yes or a no? >> congressman, it's a complex question. >> okay. we'll move on. mr. dorsey? >> yes, but you also have to take into considering the broader ecosystem. it's not just the platforms that are used. >> the ceos are once again in the hot seat in congress addressing their roles their companies played. twitter chief jack dorsey admitting his company played a role in the deadly capitol
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insurrection. among the lawmakers, the republicans who played no small part that led to the january 6th attack. as "the washington post" notes, more than half of the representatives on the two subcommittees organizing the hearings voted against certifying the 2020 election citing baseless claims. several tweeted the phrase #stopthesteal. joining us is nick confessore. and also with us cara swisher, host of podcasts. karen, let me first start with you, the abominable irony on display here, the idea you would go out of the way to ask the
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wolves to guard the henhouse, to ask the people who spread misinformation to police people who perhaps prevented the spread of misinformation. >> i consider all of this kabuki theater, what's happening here. they doubled down on some people. i think bob lata was spewing conspiracy theories again, which continues to go on. more it was something of a nothing burger where nothing is going to happen until they get laws in place such as the reform of 230, privacy legislation, and data legislation, and more finding to the ftc and justice department. so a lot of this is just sort of, you know, whack-a-tech mogul, which really doesn't get us anywhere. >> nick, do you get any sense of
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contrition in silicon valley over what happened on january 6th, around misinformation around vaccinations? >> i think there's contrition, fear and deflection. what i think is striking here is when these, you know, when these people come before congress and talk, the answers they want to give are so much more complex than the answers that congress wants to hear. the answer is, of course these platforms played some role in spreading the information, and the users played some role. what is not clear to me, or them, i think, would january 6th have happened any way in some form if facebook wasn't there? it's hard to answer that. there was information on cable news, on newspapers, in magazines. it's not just the platforms. the question that everyone is wrestling with, are the platforms unookly responsible
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for viral baloney, for stuff that spreads at light speed and takes on a new kind of power? >> cara, on that point, we talk about the various platforms. there are tons of platforms that crop up, ensome may -- i'm talking about whack-a-mole in terms of platforms. technology is always developing. i think that becomes the catch-22 here. >> i think it's how big the companies are and how much power they have, which is ubiquitous. i would say the only thing, what nick was saying is these sites have amplified and weaponized a lot of stuff. it's very different than a capable show. they don't have the same power that these do to amplify content or advertising, whatever malevolent player wants to use. it's been shown time and again
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to radicalize people. that's where the problem is. i don't know if contrition is the word you want to use. they do understand about the power to convince people to do things. obviously most of the blame lies on the people who attacked the capitol, but the platforms had a role to play and that's a question that has to be answered and to fix is it in some fashion. >> nick, i wonder if there's any hope for washington taking any sizable substantive role here, when you bring it up, it inevitably leads to a conversation about cancel culture and the censorship of conservative voices. that then becomes the line of defense and the argument shifts to largely irrelevant territory. right. i think disinformation is a political hot potato on capitol
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hill. the democrats would rather the plat firms exercise some responsibility and build a better mousetrap and take control of the problem themselves. most of the republicans are basically opposed to content rules altogether, because they have benefited more than democrats from a free-flowing, unregulated social media system. that's why it's there's not consensus. everyone is mad at the companies, using the cudgels, but -- >> i think it's important to point out the asymmetry here. "the atlantic" has a great analysis -- it was sdijtly one-sided. it followed a familiar pattern throughout the 2020 campaign.
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influencers or hype or partisan outlets would pick up a real-world event, and shouldhorn it in to fit a far broader narrative. the issue now is that information is largely accepted in those circles as fact. >> absolutely. that's one of the big issues. the question is how do you deal with it when everybody is online. the pandemic has shown we're going to be living online much more significantly than before. there will not be another normal, and politics will be done this way. government is the one that has to move here. i then janikowski said self-regulation is at the end of the road here. there's got to be some regulation by government here, because there hasn't been any. and away from all this noise of these hearings. real legislation. >> someone do something, please.
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you'll be running against donald trump? joe biden not shying away from a partisan fight in his first news conference as president of the united states. with his administration, biden made clear nothing, club obstruction will stand in the way of his agenda. he pointed biden lays out starkly that, for him, it's all about getting this nation back on solid ground. >> i set a goal for the people i care most about, which are hard-working, decent american people who are having it stuck to them. i want to change the paradigm. i meant what i said when i ran. a lot of you still think i'm wrong, and i respect that.
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i'm running for three reasons -- to restore the soul honor, transparency to the american political system. two, to rebuild the backbone of this country, the middle class, hard-working people, people struggling to get to the middle class. they build america and unions build them. the third reason i said i was running was to unite the country. generically speaking, all of you said no, you can't do that. i've not been able to unite the congress, but i've been uniting the country, based on the polling data. we have to come together. we have to from my perspective, you know, to me it's about just, you know getting out there, putting one foot in front of the other and trying to make things better for people. >> he may not have united congress, but he says he's uniting the country, an
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important distinction he brought up more than once today. >> this is a matter i making sure i would like elected republican support, but what i know i have now is i have electoral support tro republican voters, republican voters. they agreed with what i'm doing. unless mitch says the last piece of legislation is so far left, well, then he ought to take a look at his party. over 50% of them must be over that edge as well, because they support what i did. >> and the polls seem to back him up. despite overwhelming support from the american public, and biden maintains strong overall support across the country. biden's brand of unity on the issues he says matters to real americans is where we start.
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joining us now, ben rhodes. also with us david jolley of florida, now the executive chairman of the serve america movement, and "the washington post" white house correspondent anne geren. ben, let me start with you. tactically, what do you make of the strategy we're seeing from the biden white house, which suggests this president believes he can throw elbows at the republican party in washington and at the state level, and still preserve goodwill among the majority of the country? >> well, alex i think what you see is they have learned from history, from the last decade. we had eight years in the obama administration where we saw the republican party becoming extremist, having no desire to work on anything with the
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democrats. a republican party that can't even distance itself from donald trump, there's no reason to believe that they're going to be engaging in good faith. joe biden opened the door to working with them on a rescue package. they refused to walk through the door, so he says, okay, i'm moving forward. what i saw in the press conference again and again, he made clearly, i think they're the right thing to do. i think it's right to extend voting rights, and invest in infrastructure and create jobs. i'm not going to sit here and give mitch mcconnell a veto through a filibuster or allow him to weigh me out through disingenuous talk. i think it's the right approach, where he's saying to the voters, judge me on my actions and my priorities. thus far, when you see almost $2 trillion in relief and historic gains in terms of combatting poverty in this country, expanding access to health care,
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clearly it's working. and some of these ideas are bound to be more popular with a wider swath of the american public than others, right? $1400 stimulus checks, pretty popular with everybody. getting rid of the filibuster, even the voting rights issue may be more contentious that this president expects, given the fact there's a lot of legislator and state officials who believe they have the support in their states. can this be the playbook for the coming year? >> well, i think so. look, there aren't going to be more challenging issues. the scale of the ambition that he has for climate plan, clearly is something that's more contentious than given people $1400. i think what he's betting on the is american people have
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basically taken the size of the republican party, and enough americans -- not all americans, but enough americans understand, look, joe biden has no partner to work with. he's got to do what he's got to do. here's the key choice -- would you rather make progress and be judged on the agenda, or be drawn into aendless negotiation, be drawn into everything you care about, including voting rights be held up by filibuster? would you rather head into election by having done less, or would you rather make your case to the american people? i think that's the joe biden we said today. he's going to make his case, he's going to try to act as pragmatically as he can, and clearly after four years of trump? that seems to be resonating with people. >> and do things -- doing things
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is a good thing for this administration, right? the idea is, okay, we have a large support of the american -- support of the large portion of the american public with us, let's keep doing things, and sometimes we may not have the support of as many people, but we'll still keep doing things? >> alex, the administration continues to pursue an outside-in strategy, which the president referenced quite specifically today, that he republicans generally support a lot of the things he's doing, so it's a way to put pressure on mitch mcconnell and congressional republicans, as was the original flourish, i may not be uniting congress, but i'm uniting the country. he's saying he's doing what he was elected to do, following through on key priorities, which he made sure to lift very specifically today. the white house is also very mindful they do not have
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forever. this is sort of a magic moment when they have -- when democrats have control of the white house in both houses of congress and nothing is running for office right after. so they were looking at a horizon that's approaches pretty quickly when there will not be the political capital to get things done. so the urgency in the president's words today. we basically got to get things done this year. >> david, how are congressional republicans hearing the press conference today? what do you think they focus on in the series of comments he made? >> republicans want to focus on the things that joe biden said he doesn't want to focus on. we saw a very calculated strategy by joe biden and his team, his political and his white house team. what i mean by that is we saw a
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fairly disciplined president biden stay on message, speak directly to the american people, triangulating republican electives from their own voters is a brilliant tactic, but he wants to move to infrastructure, right? when he was pushed on guns, he pivoted and said, no, we're doing infrastructure now. he even gave the lessons of history that good presidents understand timing. you're thinking of lbj, the way he approached civil rights and voting rights. when he was pushed on immigration, have you sat down with bipartisan talks? i said, not yet. i want them to get the opposition out of their system. i think it's to keep republican support and keep the poll numbers high is somewhere like infrastructure, but the problem, alex, is this -- gun violence and immigration is leading the news, not crumbling roads. so biden is being very smart,
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trying to stay in a lane where he can get consensus support, but people do want to know answers on gun violence and immigration. it's a balances test that every president faces. this is not unique to joe biden, nor is his solution, but he's going to balance what he can get away with, with strong pushes on guns and immigration. >> there's already pushback on progressive twitter, on the progressive internet about just how much joe biden will be held accountable on the issues he doesn't tackle, precisely because of what you point out. everybody saw what happened in the last for you years, what did and didn't get done. a lot of progressives is saying this guy will not solve every crisis within his first year. analysts think it's potentially even baked in the cake an acceptance there may not be
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anything on immigration or gun safety, this year or any year of the biden administration. >> yeah, alex, i think they've been pretty clear from the get-go that climate change is in there as well, and there's a lot of issues i care about. i'm waiting for the return to the iran nuclear agreement. you didn't hear him talk about it today. but they're going to judge themselves first and forbes most on those priorities. there was a question of what choice would joe biden make between the more ambition legislative package and getting some rep votes, because i think there was an wareness that your ambitions, on things like infrastructure, on things like combatting poverty, on housing, if you're trying to get them one or two republican votes. what joe biden signaled, and i know this team well, ron klain and all the colleagues from the
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obama administration, they benchized the lesson. we're not going to trade away core priorities just to get one or two senators on a big. on the rescue plan and how ambitious that was, that's going to matter on the infrastructure bill. if they have the most ambitious version of that bill, that will be transformative, not just in creating american jobs, but in combatting climate change. so i think from a progressive standpoint, you can get a lot done even within a biden administration that might shy away from some of those more hot button fights. >> i was surprised by the level of transparency on a question that's premature. let's play the exchange. >> reporter: on a related note, have you decided whether you are going to run for reelection in 2024? you haven't set up a reelection
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campaign as your predecessor. >> my predecessor needed too. oh, god, i miss him. the transparency is not about the fact that biden may actually miss trump, which i think was a jock mohr than anything else, but this idea that it's a window into maybe how the white house is thinking about all of this ambition, right? that the reelection campaign hasn't been set up, that this is very much still about the moment. this is about the hour they have, the majorities they have, and going for broke with all of that, and not really thinking about 2024. >> how about that? the president answered the question. he didn't really answer the question behind the question, which is, you know, will he be the nominee or might the nominee at the top of the ticket be vice president harris? which is, you know, it's a
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theory that's out there. we currently have the oldest president, and obviously will be older in three years. might she be the nominee? he said, i expect to be the nominee. that was news, but he also, you know, very clearly said he wants her with him, and so those are things that we didn't know really very specifically before. and as to whether or not he set up a reelection committee, remember that when trump did it, it was news because presidents don't usually do so so early in their term. so biden has plenty of time to do that and still be within the regular bounds of expectations of what a president seeking reelection would be doing with his time. >> though it's clear, dave, they are well aware of 2022 and the potential change in the balance of power that may happen or just the margins they're playing with
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in congress. it really seems in this hour they have a strategy to try to bait republicans and law-making republicans in congress out on issues that should hurt them with a midterm electorate. there's a ton of discipline, a ton of unity from democrats, even on things that are contentious like the filibuster, i've got to say the democratic party is acting a look like the republican party of yore in terms of its unity. >> yeah, look, i'm the independent here, no longer a republican, not a democrat, so i like some of the -- the forcing function of a filibuster to kind of drive consensus. i will say this, if i was a democrat right now, go big, eliminate the filibuster. democrats face this decision now. you know you have two years to pass a bold agenda. if you truly believe that's where the heartbeat of the
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country is, on gun care and, because if you don't eliminate the fill bruser, you will be selling incrementalism. republicans will draw democrats just as much as democrats will draw republicans out, including on the issues of guns and immigration. republicans want that fight. if you're a democrat today,deba. own it, right? i think one of the big takeaways was joe biden's insistence we're going to infrastructure next. i promise you, every parent is scared to send their kids do school because of gun violence. they want an answer. people want a solution to the graphics they're seeing. the heartbreak is just as bad today as it was during the trump
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administration. i know the biden administration has plans on that. if they're going to lean into infrastructure and saying yes we'll get to these other issues, they're playing a risky game. i say go big and sell your answers to the american people right now. >> david jolly says get rid of the filibuster, and also, it's infrastructure week. where you heard that before? thank you all for starting us off this hour. when we return, president biden's bold agenda will run headfirst into a vestige of our racist past. prosecutors are widening their net in the case of the domestic terrorism. and later in the hour, andrew yang will join us. he's running as mayor of new york city. we'll ask it about the troubling rise of asian violence in this
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we're ready to get a lot done. if we have to, if there's complete lockdown, we'll have to go beyond what i'm talking about. >> indicating he's ready to get whatever it takes to enact his ambitious agenda. from axios -- he loves the growing narrative that he's bolder and bigger-thinking than president
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obama. >> joining us eddie glaud. there's a lot that he has done and he is prepared to do. is the sky the limit, in your mind? >> well, it has to be. the crisis that the nation faces, alex, demands a response at scale. you know, sometimes history chooses us. the question is whether or not you're going to respond to the call. so he has been elected in a moment of profound crisis. the nation is broken, though amanda gore would say it's unfinished, but the nation is really in a moment of crisis. we have the evidence of a particular strategy, particular ideology, that is the evidence of what the age of reagan has wrought. we're at the end of that era. so the question is what will joe biden usher in? he has to answer the call of
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history, or shall we say, alex, continue to try to govern to that lost reagan democrat? if they does the latter, then he will fail in terms of responding to what the country needs, it seems to me. >> it does feel like this administration is thinking of its time. certainly they have their eye toward political reality, election cycles and so forth, but in terms irtheir ambitions it looks like a 50 or 100-year cycle, now a four-year cycle. >> yeah, absolutely. you can think about it in this way. when ronald reagan was elected in 1980, he shifted the gravity of america politics. up to that, some would argue we were working on the field of fdr. what did reagan do? he changed the basic
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fundamentals. we've been working with those assumptions since 1980. what happened with the global pandemic, what has happened with increasing wealth and economy, what has happened with dedivisions in the country, is that politics and those policies have revealed themselves to be bankrupt. so what do we need? we need a, in my view, a new visioning, a new way of thinking about how we go about doing our business, how we imagine ourselves together. i have an opportunity with some other folks, you have to a chance to talk with president biden. it was a conversation off the record, bud in the generality, there was a sense this moment is calling us. we can't allow folks to grab our ankles and hold us to the ground, because they want to stay comfortable with what was. >> well, that particular point, we discuss it a bit in the last hour, as regards the filibuster, which is like admittedly not a
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thing that inflamed people's passions in previous news cycles, but at this moment seems to be the line in the sand. getting rid of it could truly be an adbc moment in terms of american democracy, right? i wonder how you think of it in kind of a civilization, historical, like future of democrat sick perspective. on the one hand, yes, it could cure many of the ills we talk about, the structural racisms, the injustices that have plagued the country. on the other hand it could usher in a tidal wave, a series of whiplash moments and the changing of the guard, and i wonder how you process the ups and downs, pros and cons of something as nuclear as getting rid of the filibuster.
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>> we have to think about whether we want to curtail it. america has to finally choose to be a multigenerational democracy. think about this, alex. in 1866, andrew johnson is the president of the united states in the aftermath of the disaster that was the civil war and the assassination of abraham lincoln. there are moderates in the congress who think they can work with him. as they think they can work, andrew johnson is reasserting -- you get the riots where black people who wore the uniform, who defended the union were being murdered. the massacre in new orleans. we get a reassertion of the ugliness that threatened to choke the life out american democracy. we cannot have moderates in this moment holding us back from
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making the choice. that's what we face. who are we going to be? finally, the filibusters stands in the way, in take already with voting rights. >> it feels almost like a biblical choice, the more it becomes apparent we're heading towards a reckoning for justice, which is the doing away of the filibuster. >> and the politics of it all, alex, is this. you mentioned in the last segment with david and others, progressives understand what we have to do in electing joe biden. we understand our expectations have been shaped by who he is, who he was and the like, but if the democratic party plays fast and loose with that gamble, they're going to pay in the mid terms. and there's going to be a
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judgment -- not only a judgment made of the republican party, there will be a judgment made of the democratic party as well. we need to be different. we need to be otherwise. >> eddie glaude, thank you are for your time, as always. when we return, biden administration stepping up its fight against extremists. that is next. t against extremiss that is next [ chuckles ] don't get me wrong, i love my rv, but insuring it is such a hassle. same with my boat. the insurance bills are through the roof. -[ sighs ] -be cool. i wish i could group my insurance stuff. -[ coughs ] bundle. -the house, the car, the rv. like a cluster. an insurance cluster. -woosah. -[ chuckles ] -i doubt that exists. -it's a bundle! it's a bundle, and it saves you money! hi. i'm flo from progressive, and i couldn't help but overhear... super fun beach day, everybody. when you buy this plant at walmart, they can buy more plants from metrolina greenhouses so abe and art can grow more plants.
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now been charged in the massive investigation into the deadly capitol insurrection. while most of the suspects face charges related to trespassing, at least 65 are suspected of assaulting the police, and at least 22 people are accused of conspiracy. the most serious charge so far in the investigation. an analysis by npr found, as of last week 34 suspects had connections to groups such as the proud boys. sources tell -- and federal agencies are also looking into using tools developed decades ago during the war on terror in today ease fight against violent domestic extremism. from politico -- and expanding its use of the no-fly list. the department could begin analyzing the travel patterns of suspected domestic extremists,
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monitors flights and search their luggage for weapons. joining me is andrew weissman, and matt miller. andrew, let me turn to you first, the fact that the no-fly list is something we're talking about again. how would that practically work? there are serious civil liberty certains here. how do we know if someone is not going to a protest, but planning to do something illegal after the protest or as part of it? >> great question. the no-fly list definitely has serious civil liberties implications. traditionally it's used in connection with foreign terrorists suspected of being part of al qaeda and other foreign groups. in theory there is nothing to
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prevent the government from trying to have that list encompass domestic terrorist. that could including the oath keepers and the proud boys. the problem is though, under the fourth amendment, if you're going to restrict someone's liberty and movement, you really need to give them an opportunity to be heard and to challenge that kind of restriction. the courts have wrestled with this, the right to travel versus the government's interest in preventing terrorism, and it's a very complicated issue. courts have come out differently on this. it's surprisingly taken years and years, and it's never gotten to the supreme court. but this is one where, i think that having merrick garland and soon lisa month acould at the justice department will be extremely helpful. they're steeped in the balancing that needs to be done here to
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make sure there's not an abuse of that no-fly list. >> matt, to be on the no-fly list, one does not necessarily need to be notified, right? it's impossible to know when you get off of it as well. is that right? >> yeah, that's right. you don't necessarily have to be notified. it's difficult to get yourself off the list once you've been put on it. you don't have to be convicted of a crime to be put on it. there are serious civil liberty questions. the biden administration will have to think about any time it expanses authorities, not just making sure that they are striking the right balance between fighting terrorism and upholding civil liberties, but that there's robust oversight built into the program. let's remember, joe biden won't be the president forever. we won't always have -- an attorney general who respects civil liberties as much as i believe merrick garland does.
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you could easily see if the no-fly list is, you know, expanded to encompass domestic terrorism, a future attorney general who says black lives matter protesters could be put on it. >> matt, also, the politics of this is really tricky as well, giving where the republican party is in terms of playing footsie with this. there's a lot of cross-pollination and thirdly where the rep party is generally speaking on the notion of being canceled or otherwise subject to unconstitutional scrutiny or scrutiny that infringes on their own freedoms. once you add the no-fly list into that, once you add
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government surveillance, it seems like it would become a political powderkeg. it's difficult. when you look at the fbi or department of homeland security or other law enforcement agencies, there has to be a nexus to violence. that's the kei thing to separate it from, you know, constitutionally protected speech, or constitutionally protected right to organize. the fbi has a long history of doing this type of thing. it was the fbi that essentially broke up the ku klux klan in the last century, not just by monitoring, but in some cases the infiltrating them. the fbi at times overreached when it came looking at what they called domestic terrorists, which were in fact examples -- what should have been protected constitutional speech. so i think the key thing, both in looking at expanding the
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no-fly list are all of these different types of programs you have to fight domestic terrorism. it always has to be linked to violence, not speech. >> i know you have divergent views in how this investigation will be determined in terms of leaks, and former prosecutors giving interviews to the media leaks to "new york times" about sedition charges. what is your level of confidence this can be handled in the appropriate manner given the high stakes? giving the political party war fare of the subject of january 6th? >> before i turn to that, on the no-fly list, one more quick point, which is it would be necessary if, before you add someone to that list, that you have evidence that the people that you're putting on the list are going to target the airplane. it's not just to track their movement. the reason that foreign
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terrorists were put on no-fly lists is because of things like 9/11. i don't think we right now have sufficient evidence with respect to the oath keepers or the proud boys that they're targeting airplanes. i'm not sure we'll see that kind of movement that quickly. then to your point about the justice department and people speaking, most courts, federal courts in this country have standing rules that prohybl prosecutors and defense lawyers from making statements that could hurt the fairness of the trial for one side or the other. what the former u.s. attorney in d.c. did was a clear violation of that rule that we could all see on television repeatedly. it appeared to be flagrant and it appeared to be intentional. that's the kind of thing in the past that prosecutors and fbi agents have gotten into trouble with the department of justice
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office of professional respond, and i think quite rightly, that's something that should not happen. defendants are entitled to a fair trial. andrew and matt, thank you both for spending time with us today. when we return, former presidential candidate andrew yang joins us. he is running for mayor of new york now. we will ask him about the alarming rise in hate crimes against asian-americans. e alarming rise in hate crimes against asian-americans. ♪ ♪ we made usaa insurance for veterans like martin.
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it has been nine days since eight people were murdered in atlanta, six of them asian women. calls have been growing for a stronger response to address the rising number of hate crimes and discrimination against asian-american and pacific islander communities, starting at the top. in congress a bill has been introduced. and at the white house where pressure from lawmakers has forced a promise of commitment to inclusion and some action already. joining us now, andrew yang, who is now running for mayor right here in new york city. andrew, always good to see you. >> alex, so great to see you as well. i hope you've been great. >> i'm great now, because we're doing tv together. i want to talk about this moment. first, let me get yew thoughts on the efforts being made political at the highest levels of government to address a very serious problem. when you heard the biden
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admission was going to appoint a liaison, some were asking for a cabinet-level position, do you find it satisfying? how much more work is left to be done. >> i'll admit to being surprised there has not been an asian-american appointee to the cabinet. the fact is asian-americans helped joe and kamala help win. they certainly helped them win the senate. if you look at the electoral in georgia, asian-americans are 4.7% voters there, and jon ossoff won there, and the asian-american community by right should expect a cabinet-level appointee, particularly because there's been an asian-american in the cabinet over the last several administrations. are you disappointed that the two lawmakers, tammy duckworth
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and mazie hirono backed down at the point they did? >> i think the point has been made. the fact is they are pushing for legislation, and tammy duckworth has awesome much so i think the point has been made. >> i am an asian-american, my mother is burmese, i wrote about it, i feel like a lot of asian-americans are finding their own voice to talk about issues they hadn't talked about before. i wonder what your journey has been like. you wrote about it earlier in the pages of "the washington post" and we're at a different place right now. have you changed in your thinking about how to combat asian racism and asian hate crimes?
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>> the last 13, 14 months have been devastating for so many people in our community, alex. you probably had some of the same experiences i have, when you're out on the streets of new york, there's been a different energy, a different level of hostility really toward asian-americans. i talked to victims of anti-asian violence all the time here in new york, a restaurant worker was punched on the street for no reason. a woman punched on the street for no reason. spitting, stabbing, and of course the terrible tragedies in atlanta. so i do believe this is leading to a political awakening for asian-americans. i'm very proud to have been the first asian-american man to run for president as a democrat. i may be the first asian-american mayor in new york's history, and hopefully i can contribute to the fact that more asian-americans are engaged, in part because i feel like our community is, frankly,
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under different sorts of attack that we've been historically. >> do you think of the way asians need to talk about themselves -- do asians need to talk about themselves differently? i guess i ask you that, because one of the things you do so successfully is talking about bucking stereotypes. on the other hand, you've had fun with those stereotypes, too? i remember the math hats, and asians being going at math fits into that -- does that need to change? >> as you said, alex, i think times are changing for the asian-american community. there was a degree of invisibility that i frankly felt some need to try to overcome appeared combat when i was running for president, but now we're facing xenophobia, racism, even violence, and the -- the phenomenon unfortunately is getting worse, not better, in
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terms of anti-asian sentiment. so we need to come together, build connection with americans from every background, let people know that asian-americans are just as american as everyone else. it's been a really heartbreaking time for people in the community. the goal is to try to build something positive out of this. >> you wonder how much of onus is the work of other people. you talked in your op-ed about asians pronounce themselves as patriots in one form or another. some people said, you know, it's not our job to prove we're the fabric of american society, it's up to other people to recognize we are. that's a lesson that's learned intersectionally from battles that black and brown brethren have had. it's up to the racists to shed that i racist ways. who has the most work to do, i
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guess? >> i think we can ask more of ourselves and ask more of each other. i was uplifted by this rally and event in new york this past weekend where it was organized by both black and asian leaders, trying to bring or communities together, and jumani williams who is here in new york city made an ask that i think speaks to the heart of what we should be doing. we should be greeting someone every day we might not ordinarily say hello to. you might surprise them, about you we can broughton what we think of's our own community. if we do see something amiss, particularly if it's affecting someone, like in a public setting, where unfortunately some of the events here in new york city had bystanders who frankly failed to help the person who was being victimized off assaulted. we can all do better than that.
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certainly reach out to different communities to let people know we're all in this together. >> there have been disturbing reports from what's been happening in new york city, i will telescope out to new york state. i will have to ask you about our embattled governor, andrew cuomo. a lot of democrats have called for him to resign. there's new news today from "new york times" that he basically fast-tracked testing for his families at the outset. do you think he needs to go? >> i believe he should step aside and let the lieutenant governor take the reins while some of these issues are being investigated. the fact is it would be nearly impossible as someone embattled to focus on the business of the state. we are still at a tenuous time. we need someone who is completely focused on our recovery. so i think him stepping aside at this time would be the right move. >> andrew yang, running for
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mayor of new york city, i expect to see you eating pizza in some form with your hands or knife and fork in the comes months. thank you for sending time with us, my friend. >> thanks, alex. great seeing you. we'll be back with breaking news out of the georgia, where lawmakers have just passed new voting restrictions. just passew voting restrictions. claim your seventy five dollar credit, when you post your first job at indeed.com/home. when you buy this plant at walmart, they can buy more plants from metrolina greenhouses so abe and art can grow more plants. so they can hire vilma... and wendy... and me. so, more people can go to work. so, more days can start with kisses. when you buy this plant at walmart. ♪♪
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pass in states across the country. at least 250 bills have been introduced in 43 states. the measure now heads to the desks of the governor kemp, who is expected to sign it tonight. joining us is aaron haines. this will make people very, very concerned about the integrity of our elections. your thoughts about what this portends for voter restriction laws that are in state legislatures across the country. >> georgia is leading the way on these efforts to curtail access to the ballots, particularly for certain groups. it was 15 or so years ago that georgia was the pioneer on voter i.d. laws mimicked in states after georgia passed their law. now that you have the absence of section 5 of the voting rights act, states are able to pass this kind of legislation without pre-clearance from a justice department. so, you know, i wouldn't be
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surprised to see other states -- you know there's model legislation happening in other states, you know, kind of taking from best practices in gop statehouses, so we'll see if other states mirror what georgia has apparently been able to do, because governor kemp is expected to sign this legislation tonight. there's another equally cancerous, pernicious aspect, which is the partisan takeover the state elections boards. in this georgia bill, it's stripping authority from the secretary of state -- now, in georgia that was a man named ben raffensperger, who was one of last men standing against donald trump. he'll make him a nonvoting members and allow lawmakers to initiate takeovers of local election boards. that's significance, errin. >> especially for republicans
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who have long touted states' rights, this is taking local control away from these jurisdictions that have basically been in charge of their own elections. really just overall, this is legislation that is targeting black voters and there are specific strategies to increase voter turnout. things like handing out water and food to voters standing in line, curtailing sunday voting, and that's what you see the gop lawmakers responding to. also, i think why you see democrats trying to move with urgency at the federal level to, you know, pass the for the people act, to really work to deal with this nationally. but you know, the last thing i would add, i think you heard people like stacey abrams and
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others allude to litigation, and i wouldn't be surprise if somebody like mark elias file tonight? >> errin haines, thank you for joining us. thank you so much for joining us today for "deadline: white house." "the beat with ari melber" starts right now. \s right now s \s we have the great james carville and michael steele here to break it all down. good to see both of you. biden's strongest comments getting a lot of attention picks up on what msnbc was covering in the last hour,ed big issue of voting rights, republicans actively trying to restrict votes. >> what i'm worried about is how
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