it will be hard. some people have been pushed away from each other now for so many years to put it back together but tim gives us a good start there. >> absolutely. that does it for us this morning. stephanie ruhle picks up the coverage right now. . hi, there, i'm stephanie ruhle. it's tuesday, march 30th. in 90 minutes from now the trial of derek chauvin, the ex-minneapolis police officer charged in the death of george floyd, is set to resume. donald williams, a trained mixed martial artist who tried to intervene when he saw police holding floyd to the ground will continue his testimony this morning. prosecutors are then expected to call more witnesses throughout the day. it comes after a very tense first day with the prosecution introducing new time-stamped surveillance video of floyd's arrest and calling two other

witnesses besides williams. alicia oiler, working across the street at a convenience store and took multiple videos as the incident played out. and a 911 dispatcher who alerted a supervisor when she saw floyd on the ground for several minutes. >> something wasn't right. i don't know how to explain it. it was a gut instinct to tell me that now we can be concerned. >> as the trial wrapped up, protesters gathered outside the courthouse in minneapolis, but the protest was peaceful. they held a sign simply saying, "the world is watching." i want to go straight to nbc's shaquille brewster in minneapolis this morning. shaq, you have been in that city for weeks. tell us what is it like there and what is the plan today when the trial resumes, what are you watching for? >> stephanie, the trial will

resume at 9:00 a.m. local time. the jush will be brought in 30 minutes later at 10:30 eastern time and then we expect to hear testimony from donald williams, the state's third witness in this case. he is -- when you watch that video, he's one of the more vocal bystanders as george floyd is under the knee of ex-officer derek chauvin for 9:29 period of time. as he was testifying yesterday, he talked about his mixed martial arts experience. in that video you hear him say get off with him, you hear him pleading with officers saying he's not moving or resisting. he talks about the different choke hold he believes derek chauvin was using in that incident. based on the reporters in the room, there are only two reporters allowed in that courtroom, they reported back the jury was listening to him more intensely than the other two witnesses, saying that the jurors were taking notes at the different restraining mechanisms he was mentioning. they were paying attention and he was making eye contact and they were nodding along as he

was testifying. so he definitely seemed to be more connecting more with the jury than some of other witnesses. the state will continue to lay out its case. we will expect them to continue to call out witnesses. we don't know what witnesses they will call out later in the day but if we listen to the opening statements when they gave us somewhat of a roadmap of what to expect, we know at some point we will hear from the police chief, who will testify, according to the state prosecutors, that the force used by derek chauvin was excessive force. we will hear from a sergeant in charge of the situation at the time. we don't know the order of the witnesses but we know as the state continues to lay out their case against that fired minneapolis police department, they will continue to call on witnesses that will back up what we see in that video that they played yesterday, stephanie. >> shaq, thank you for giving us the what. now let's dig into what it all means. joining us now former u.s. attorney and senior fbi official chuck rosenberg. chuck, talk us through day one

witnesses. what stood out to you? >> sure, well, you always will see, stephanie, different sorts of witnesses who have different pieces of a story. some are really important and compelling. some have very, very small pieces. for instance, the first witness, the 911 dispatcher, miss scurry, an important witness because she felt something was wrong, it bothered her. she called a supervisor. she was seeing things that just didn't seem right. the second witness, miss oiler, the woman who worked across the street, was a relatively unimportant witness. she was obviously nervous. that happens. remember, prosecutors don't pick witnesses. witnesses come with the case. why was she called? it was because she took video and in order to authenticate that video and introduce it as evidence, you need the person who took the video. it was that simple. so you're going to see a mix of witnesses today, the next day, the next several weeks.

some really compelling, important. some big pieces of the story and some relatively minor with very small pieces of the story but they have something the prosecutor needs to put into evidence. >> so they needed that second witness, miss oyler for the video, not necessarily for her testimony. and i cannot imagine the stress and pressure of having to be a witness like that. but she did struggle. she struggled to answer basic questions like where she lived. could that end up damaging this case in any way? >> no, not in the end. she was nervous. i think jurors are typically sympathetic when they see somebody that nervous. by the way, prosecutors meet with witnesses ahead of time. so the prosecutors knew she would be nervous. they knew how she would answer questions. it's perfectly permissible to prep a witness. i would give you an example of why this won't matter so much and one of the very last cases i prosecuted, a virginia

convenience store was robbed at gunpoint and we had to prove some of the stuff in the store -- this will seem silly, but some of the stuff in the store moved an interstate commerce, the bottled water sold in virginia came from pennsylvania. i had to call one witness to explain that. he was so nervous, lovely man but he was so nervous. i'm sure the jurors were wondering, why in the world are we doing this? we're only doing it to prove the movement of goods in interstate commerce, federal jurisdiction. so you're going to see in this trial little things that may not make immediate sense. you will see nervous witnesses, others like mr. williams who are very compelling and very confident and very articulate. but in the end the fact you had a balky witness as number two, she was nervous and couldn't answer basic questions, it won't matter. she was there to put in videotape, that's it. >> you know who matters? derek chauvin. talk to us about the defense strategy. should chauvin be taking the

stand? and when does a decision like that get made? >> that's such a good question, stephanie. it's probably the most difficult decision that a defend and defense lawyer have to make. as you noticed, mr. chauvin's lawyer did not promise in his opening statement he would take the stand. they're going to reserve judgment. i could also assure you that they're doing their job, they would have done a mock cross-examination of chauvin numerous times, a dozen times before trial, to understand how their client would hold up under the stress of cross-examination. it's not eadsy, and so they're going to watch as the trial proceeds. they're going to make a determination closer in time to when chauvin would testify, if he does testify, and then they will make a decision. it's important to understand too, chauvin doesn't have to testify. he has an absolute right not to testify at all. that's grounded in the fifth

amendment of the prostitution. the burden is always on the prosecution. it never shifts to the defendant. but jurors want to hear from defendants. and if this case comes down to chauvin's intent, and that's a very important factor here, the best person to talk about that is chauvin. does he take the stapped? the most critical decision will be whether or not chauvin takes the stand. that will be up to him and his counsel. >> as the world is watching, what's the number one thing you're watching out for today? >> well, i'm going to be watching for two things, if i can pick two number one things, stephanie. one is how they prove chauvin's intent. the video is deeply disturbing but they have to go further. what they do with the issue on cause of death. to me those are the two biggest issues in this trial, chauvin's intent and cause of death. while that may seem obvious if you watch the videotape, it's not obvious in the courtroom to

witness -- i'm sorry, to jurors who have agreed to put aside anything they may know and make their determination, make their decision based only on the evidence deduced at trial. so listen for cause of death and listen for evidence about intent. those are the two drivers of this case. >> we'll always listen to you, chuck. chuck rosenberg, thank you for joining us this morning. i want to bring in the mayor of st. paul, minnesota, melvin carter. mayor, there's a lot of tension in minneapolis and really across your entire state. how are you keeping your city safe as this trial continues? >> thank you for having me on this morning. i will tell you, we are seeing already a significant amount of peaceful, powerful, beautiful protest activity, and our first goal is working with our police department, working with law enforcement agencies and community partners to make sure that we, just like we did last year, protect the right of protesters, protect the rights

of people to peacefully protest and demonstrate and exercise those first amendment rights. in this era of extremism and hate and insurrection, we know we also have to be prepared for the possibility people will come to our community with something in mind other than honoring george floyd's legacy and calling for justice for his murder and so our police department is working alongside our state patrol, our national guard and a number of other partners to both protect both protesters and our property and our community. but we also know this trial is bringing us an enormous amount of trauma. watching that video yesterday just revisited so many things for myself and my family and we know community members will need someplace, some vehicle to safely and to process that trauma in some healthy way. that's the work we're doing as well. >> there have been, though, a rise in crime in the exact area where george floyd was killed. the city is struggling with how to police that area. are you navigating challenges

like in your own city? >> i think all cities right now are navigating challenges like this, and at some level, it's no surprise. what we've seen in the last year is that when all of a sudden, we have more people homeless, more people unemployed, more people hungry in our communities than ever before, we are seeing a expanding rise in crime. here's the thing, those have always been the factors that have driven neighborhood crime. so, yes, we've had public safety challenges. yes, our police department is working very closely with our community partners and with me to address those challenges, and, yes, we are seeing this as a very clear lesson learned that securing the safety of our city really starts with ensuring the stability of our neighborhood. >> you mentioned that video and processing the trauma. this is the first trial in your state to be broadcast live in

its entirety. what do you think the impact of that will be? >> you know, i don't know. i hope we get to the other side of this and find out that our legal system is capable of holding someone accountable for a crime as blatant, vicious and bold as what played out on that video. we heard the prosecuting's opening statements where his argument to the jury was simply believe your eyes. you saw something heinous. you saw something horrible. you saw something horrific. no matter how many people try to tell you what you saw was not horrible, heinous and horrific, believe your eyes, that it was. so my hope is that the world gets to see that right here in minnesota, our criminal justice system works. right here in minnesota, we can hold someone accountable. we've asked ourselves over and over and over again, stephanie, over the lack decade, how bad

does this have to be, how blatant does this have to be, how well documented does it have to be for someone to be held accountable? my hope is this marks a turning point in which we as a country choose a different path. >> a lot of people share in that hope, mayor. thank you for joining us and stay safe in your city. we're thinking of you. >> thank you. coming up next -- we've got to talk covid. the cdc director warning of impending doom as president biden said reckless behavior is responsible for a new rise in covid cases. senior white house adviser for the covid response andy slavitt joins us live. plus, president biden set to start rolling out his infrastructure plan this week. why some democrats -- that's right, democrats -- are already raising red flags against this thing.

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now to the latest on the coronavirus pandemic. president biden announcing 90%

of the adult u.s. population will be eligible for vaccinations by april 19th, and will also have a vaccination site within five miles of their home. the cdc says a study of health care workers shows one dose of pfizer or moderna vaccines is 80 -- that's a big number -- 80% effective in preventing covid and 90% effective at preventing infections in real-world conditions as two doses. meantime, across the nation new covid cases are on the rise with about a thousand deaths a day and that has cdc director rochelle walensky warning of impending doom. >> we have so much to look forward to, so much promise and potential of where we are and so much reason for hope, but right now i'm scared. >> president biden also urging governors in states that have lifted mask mandates to reinstate them. i want to go live to lindsey reiser in arizona, where as of

today, there are no coronavirus restrictions whatsoever for businesses. lindsey, what exactly does that mean and what's the reaction? >> hey, steph, the reaction has been both sides here but keep in mind that arizona was really the global hot spot not once, but twice. once last summer and once again in january. stayed reopen rather quickly and there's never been a statewide mask mandate. in fact, local leaders were not able to institute their own until the governor relented. now the governor is lifting all of the restrictions here so it's basically up to businesses to decide if they want to mandate anything. if you want an event with 50 or more people, you no longer need government approval to do that. and local mayors cannot issue anything against this executive order. the governor is citing ten weeks of declining cases and the in fact one in four arizonans have been vaccinated but there's been a lot of pushback here. the mayor of phoenix said this goes against the best scientist in the field. the mayor of tucson said she has

no intention of lifting their local mask mandate. and not only largest hospital system but largest employer said now is not the time to end mitigation measures. yesterday i went to a book store that also has a bar inside, they will also keeping their mandate. i asked how they feel about the way the mandate was going now. let's listen. >> i was actually quite surprised. i imagined the mandate would last for a little while, at least another month and there's a higher rate of vaccination. >> i'm a big believer in personal responsibility and we're all so well educated about the pandemic now and what could keep us safe. and i believe most people are good and smart and can make those decisions for it themselves. >> stephanie, it's important to remember here, coronavirus is

not over in this state. yesterday they registered 604 new cases and the day after this executive order was announced, the state confirmed two positive cases of the south african variant. stephanie? >> lindsey, thank you. joining us now, white house senior adviser for covid response, andy slavitt. andy, always good to have you here. one of the reasons why so many people are getting lax about the mask mandates and restrictions is because they're vaccinated. shouldn't the millions of vaccinated americans be able to do what they want? that's how they're feeling. >> good morning, stephanie, thank you for having me on. we're not out of this pandemic threat. we still have an accelerating threat. if you have been vaccinated, that's wonderful. i'm glad about that. but you also have to remember there's millions and millions of people who have not yet been vaccinated. lifting all of these restrictions, telling people not to wear masks, gathering in large crowds, that's the equivalent of playing with fire. if we were talking about this in

six weeks, it would be a completely different story. but why we're doing it now, it's as if we don't want to have any -- the governors around the country, some of them don't want any role in the rescue of our couple and our citizens and the real question is are we going to participate in that rescue, like the response from the biden administration, or are we going to just wait and hope science rescues us? i think we can all work together, we can beat this much quicker. >> so what's the message? because the cdc director says she does feel this sense of impending doom. but for people watching, they're either vaccinated or getting in line to be vaccinated, so they have this feeling like they did the work, they're vaccinated, they want to go back to their lives. is the answer six more weeks and we will be there? >> look, it's just like last springtime, you look outside, you know, you can't see the virus. you see the vaccinations, and all of that feels good but keeping both optimism and concern in our heads at the same

time is a reality. it's something we have to kind of be able to process together, particularly where hopefully is the last leg. the message from the biden administration is we have an accelerated threat. we're accelerating our response. within three weeks, 90% of americans will be within five miles of a vaccine and 90% of americans will be eligible for the vaccines and by may 1, that will be 100%. we're accelerating this response, bringing it to everybody. that should send a message to people they should hold on for a couple more weeks at least. >> an accelerated threat to whom? it is exciting when you walk us through those numbers and those timelines because we want to get those vaccinations. . but 73% of americans that are 65 and older, great news, they received at least one dose of the vaccine. months ago, the message was, wear a mask to protect your grand parents. but if our grandparents are also

vaccinated, who exactly are we trying to protect, those who are choosing not to be vaccinated? >> if i would have told you two years ago that 50% of seniors, the number of fully vaccinated or even 25%, the number who have not had their first vaccine yet, were at risk, you would tell me that's something we have to pay attention to. 25% of the seniors in our country at risk is too much. we're making great progress but we can't fool ourselves into thinking the progress means we're done yet. if we're younger, we have to remember this virus uses us to find sicker people, to find older people. remember, it's not just older people, we have younger people hospitalized, people with pre-existing conditions. a lot of people, a thousand people are dyeing a day, stephanie, as you know and i think people know. that's a tremendous loss. if we don't keep that in mind,

we risk thinking we made more progress than we've made to this point. we're going to get there. but we need a little more time. >> how do we address these restrictions as it relates to people who are not choosing to get the vaccine? younger people who are saying i don't want to socially distance, i don't want to wear a mask and i don't plan to get a vaccine when i'm eligible? >> look, i think most people who have been on the fence about getting a vaccine are coming off the fence. the majority, vast majority of people of both parties are saying they're supportive of the response president biden is leading the country through. and the majority who had questions about the vaccine but are increasingly want to have it taken. there are 300 million shots given and we dramatically improved results. it's a very safe vaccine,

obviously. it couldn't be in that many arms without knowing if there's a safety concern. people are seeing that and deciding for themselves. and they're communicating with people they trust who are telling them that. so i feel pretty optimistic many folks will want to take a vaccine. not everybody but most. >> the fact we are talking about covid and you're feeling optimistic, that's positive news for the country. andy, always good to see you. thank you very much. >> nice seeing you. thank you. coming up next -- we're going to take you back to minneapolis, minnesota, where peaceful protesters erupted -- peaceful protests erupted after the first day of the chauvin trial. and the floyd family speaks out after one member walked out during opening statements. we'll go back to the courthouse after the break. our softest, smoothest fabric keeping her comfortable, protected, and undeniably sleek. depend. the only thing stronger than us, is you.

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right now we are gearing up for day two of derek chauvin's trial. we saw protesters gather with a message against police blew tallty in minneapolis just hours after day one of the trial wrapped. i want to go straight to nbc's gabe gutierrez outside of the courthouse. gabe, you just spoke to people who are obviously deeply invested in this trial, george floyd's family. what did they tell you? >> hey there, stephanie. for so many americans it was so difficult to watch that full video in its entirety, cell phone video that showed derek chauvin putting his knee on george floyd's neck. actually, is a few weeks ago i

did speak with philonise floyd, who said while it was difficult to watch, he wanted the world to see that video. still doesn't make it easier. yesterday i broke with brandon williams, george floyd's nephew, who was insaid me in the family overflow room, and at one point during opening statements, he said, he just couldn't take it. >> we were warned before it could be graphic and i tried to mentally prepare. i think as they showed him kneeling on his knee and repositioning, i asked for help and i actually got up and walked out. >> again, he just walked out of the family overflow room. stephanie, i also spoke with floyd's now 7-year-old daughter gianna and her mother roxie washington. they're expected here at the courthouse today. obviously a very emotional day.

little gianna, you will remember she was the one that said last year daddy changed the world. i asked her how she was doing, and she said she was doing well. roxie washington, her mother, said she felt she needed to be here and if she could speak top washington, what would she tell him? and she got emotional and said, "i just have no words." >> gabe, thank you. as we think about one former police officer on trial for murder, we're also thinking of another being remembered as a hero in the state of colorado today. officer eric talley's public funeral will begin in just a few hours. the 11-year police veteran and father of seven was killed responding to last week's shooting in boulder, along with nine other people. nbc's erin mclachlan is in lafayette where talle's funeral is being held. i know you spoke to his father. how is he remembering his son?

>> he describes his son as a man of faith, stephanie, devout catholic and loving father to seven children. the oldest being 20, youngest being 7 years old. and he knew the risks of his profession. he was concerned about them, according to his father. he was actually considering leaving the police force, not because he was afraid, but because he knew what this kind of loss would mean to his family. and yet over a week ago at that supermarket, as shots were firing out, officer eric talley was the first inside the store, the first to respond. take a listen to what his father had to say. >> he told me, he said, i'm trained not to -- i'm trained to wait for backup. i'm trained not to go in until someone comes. he said, papa, i don't think i

can do that. i don't think i can stand there and wait for someone else to get there when people -- when people need help. >> and so today the community of boulder, the community in colorado are gathering to remember him in a public service. there was another service yesterday, a catholic service, latin mass, the kind of mass officer talley loved to listen to. they remembered him. that was livestreamed. today's service will be livestreamed as well. also worth noting the police chief said that because of his actions that day and actions of other officers who arrived on the scene, who engaged with the suspect and exchanged gunfire, dozens of lives were saved. stephanie? >> erin, thank you so much. meanwhile, jeffrey epstein's accomplice ghislaine maxwell might be in bigger trouble than she initially thought. she was just charged with sex trafficking for the first time.

with a new eight-count indictment accusing her of grooming and paying a 14-year-old girl to engage in sex acts with epstein. and that is on top of the six counts she was already facing. tom winter has been reporting this story from the beginning. tom, how big of a deal is this? indictments matter. convictions matter even more. >> steph, that's exactly right. i think in this particular instance, the fact she now faces sex trafficking charges, if convicted of those charges and sentenced to the maximum, it effectively becomes a life sentence. according to the indictment, when you talk about the importance of getting a conviction here, it appears the evidence is quite strong. this is a new victim, fourth victim that was introduced in yesterday's filings. as you said she was 14 years old. in 2001 when this allegedly began to occur, they lay out the numerous acts that she was involved with, with jeffrey epstein, sex acts. on top of that, they say she was also paid to recruit other

underage girls for massages that would turn sexual. she was apparently offered gifts and help with getting a passport so she could travel with epstein, a request or offer that she denied, declined to travel with him. so this case, obviously, brings the conduct forward initially. maxwell was only charged with activity up to 1997. this brings it forward to 2004, the eve of when the investigation in florida started in 2005. definitely a significant additional charges that were added yesterday, steph. >> you've got some new reporting about just how big the first investigation got. what did you learn? >> there was a letter that was filed last night. it was docketed in this case. the letter comes from prosecutors basically updating on an earlier filing, which we will skip ahead and say the important information was contained in last night's letter was this investigation involved fbi agents in new york, involved fbi agents in australia, involved fbi agents in colombia

and south america. that's a new thing for us. we haven't heard of a nexus to colombia. additional reporting needs to be done there. i think what's important about this letter is what it doesn't say and questions it raises. if the investigators in florida and u.s. attorney's office in florida was conducting an investigation with the fbi, and we know the fbi was very concerned about the behavior that they came across according to the ig report that came out in this case, steph, why didn't they alert the u.s. attorney's office for the southern district of new york perhaps open a separate case in new york because we know there were at least four people they sought or did interview, according to the letter filed last night. i think it raises more questions about just how seriously alex acosta's office, when he was then u.s. attorney in miami, actually took the charges and the conduct that's been alleged here. we should note that ghislaine maxwell has previously pleaded guilty to none of the charges in this case -- all of the charges in this case, and we should

expect her back in court virtually to enter her plea in these two new charges, steph. >> so many more questions, tom, and i appreciate that you are staying on this story. we are certainly not forgetting about it, not here. coming up next -- infrastructure. it is one issue that has bipartisan support in theory, just not in how it gets paid for. why is president biden having issues getting house democrats on board with his expected plan? how exactly is he going to sell it? e going to sell it ♪look at what's happened to me.♪ ♪i can't believe it myself.♪ ♪suddenly i'm up on top of the world...♪ maybe it is dirtier than it looks. ♪should've been somebody else...♪ it is dirtier than it looks. try new tide hygienic clean.

this morning we're learning more about president biden's next move in the economic recovery. he's going to split things into two plans. the first part, infrastructure, and he will be unveiling that tomorrow in pittsburgh, with economists feeling pretty good about it, some saying the plan can create 2.3 million jobs by 2024. combine that with the existing

covid relief and many are saying we can see the best economy we've seen in years. i want to bring in someone who's been all over this story, nbc news senior political reporter john allen and chief white house correspondent kristen welker. kristen, take us in the white house. splitting the package in two, first part infrastructure. what's the second part? >> the second part will be childcare, health care. the reason for splitting it into two, steph, is because we're talking about $3 trillion overall. and remember how hard it was to pass that $1.9 trillion covid relief plan, that first plan that president biden passed without pay force. that will add to the deficit. this plan, the first tranche of it will come with pay fors that includes taxes, rolling back some of the trump tax cuts, increasing the corporate tax rate from 21% to 28%, increasing

taxes on those who make $400,000. those are among the contours that we believe will be at the forefront when president biden announces this plan. splitting it into two, the white house believes is not only more palatable but potentially strategically more beneficial. the question though, steph, will they be able to pass this with republican support? remember, president biden ran on a campaign promise of trying to usher in a new spirit of bipartisanship. of course, that first plan, first $1.9 trillion plan, passed with reconciliation, so without any republican support. we know infrastructure is something republicans are on board with but the pay fors get a lot more complicated. so will they get any republicans on board with the next relief package? that remains to be seen but there will undoubtedly be a lot of pressure on the president to do so. he will announce the details

tomorrow in pittsburgh, steph. so we will be listening closely. >> mr. allen, forget republicans, how about democrats. it's not a surprise president biden is going to raise the corporate tax rate. it was a campaign promise, people across the board felt good about that. but what is it holding up some democrats in the house, is it the tax hike on people making over 400 grand? >> no, that's not nearly as big of an issue, steph, as two other issues. the one is the plan to raise the corporate tax rate to as much as 28%. you have democrats who don't want to see that go up over 25%. they thought trump went too low at 21%. that's an issue. but also particularly with democratic lawmakers from some of those big, blue states. they want to see the cap on state and local cap deductions removed. that was put in place during the trump years and someone was saying josh scott himer, they

won't vote for a bill if they think it's going to get rid of the deduction cap. >> kristen, this plan is being compared to the new deal and great society. why wouldn't the white house sell it that way? these are two shining points in american history. >> that's right, steph. i think it remains to be seen exactly what the language is going to be. i'm told that the president's speech is still a work in progress. but what they want to do is really focus on the idea that these are building blocks, that, yes, the price tag might be big but it's not going to be too big. you talk about the new deal. that, of course, is a major overhaul, arguably one of the largest deals ever passed in modern u.s. history. i think an attempt to really try to stress the fact he's doing this in a piecemeal fashion, and, again, language, the specifics, that's still being worked out, steph. >> this is obviously mega important to transportation

secretary pete buttigieg. he talked about the package yesterday. i want to share what he said. >> every road we fix, every bridge we build, we can either do it in a way that's better for the climate or worse for the climate. this is a jobs bill that's going to have climate benefits. and i think that's something we should all be able to get behind. >> here's the thing, jonathan, this all sounds great but people don't like to pay for what they can't see. they especially don't like to pay more money to the government and it just go into a black hole. does the administration need to literally say, here's the bridge, here's the road, here's the train tracks? >> yes, and we saw that with regard to the stimulus under president obama. you saw the sign, go into union station a few blocks if me, you would have seen signs there that said, paid for by the american recovery act, aora. so, yes, i think that's the

case. but secretary buttigieg makes a good point, everything they do can be good for the climate or bad for the climate. same thing, everything they do in these two huge packages they're talking about could be good for getting votes or bad for getting votes. there's a lot of complication in the policy to get those votes and in the procedure. people will hear the term reconciliation again. congress will have to pass another budget resolution for this year in order for them to get the reconciliation bill they want, which is the 50-vote standard. otherwise they need 60 for everything. >> kristen, while i have you, one of former president trump's for conservatives biggest wins were all of the judges he put on the bench. i know president biden just announced his first round of judicial nominees. what did you learn? >> well, the white house is touting the fact this is an historically diverse group of picks, real counterpoint to some of the judges picked under the previous administration. let me highlight a few of them for you, steph.

three black women for the appeals court, con tounky brown jackson, tiffany jackson, the first muslim federal judge, sahid, the first asian-pacific islander florence pan and first woman of color for a federal judge, marilyn grigsby. but they still have to get to a confirmation process. so some of the picks will be under scrutiny, particularly if they have a corporate back round. but historically speaking the white house trying to underscore the fact that this is a very diverse group, steph. >> kristen, jonathan, thank you both so much. we're going to leave it there because we're heading to alabama, where ballot counting starts today in one of the most significant union votes in recent history. over 10 years ago, we made a promise

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