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more from you. and that's it for us this morning. stephanie ruhle picks up the coverage right now. ♪♪ hi, there, i'm stephanie ruhle. this morning we have breaking news out of london, where prince philip died at age 99. queen elizabeth announced the death environment her husband saying he passed away peacefully at windsor castle. let's go live to nbc's kelly cobiella on the ground. what do we know so far? >> this is a country still in lockdown because of the pandemic so large crowd gatherings are not really permitted but people are gathering here, lying flowers at the gates of buckingham palace and remembering this man who's been part of this country's life really over seven decades.
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the announcement came from buckingham palace noon today local time, 7:00 a.m. eastern time, and it came in a tweet from buckingham palace. we're showing that to you i believe now, along with a picture of prince philip in his younger years addressed in his military uniform. the statement saying it is with deep sorrow her imagine industry the queen announced the death of her beloved husband, duke of edinburgh, prince philip, has passed away peacefully this morning. we will mourn his loss. this is a man who's been on the front stage for more than 70 years. he retired at 96. he was known for very robust health, carrying out engagements to his retirement in 2017. in fact, driving in the years beyond that. but in the past few weeks, as you probably know, he hasn't been in the best of health. he was admitted to the hospital back in february and stayed for
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a month, only released a couple weeks ago, march 16th. that month-long stay was his longest ever known hospital stay in all of these years. we're told at the time that he was treating successfully for a pre-existing heart condition and was also being treated for an infection. but we saw him in those pictures in the car as he was leaving the hospital march 16th. he was said to be in good spirits by the palace, but, quite, frankly, he didn't look to be in the best of health and now here we stand three weeks later with this announcement from buckingham palace that he has in fact passed peacefully. this now begins eight days of mourning in this country. flags have been lowered to half-staff. and as you can imagine, stephanie, this is a man who met so many world leaders over the course of his lifetime, tributes are pouring in from around the world, european leaders, iceland, india, australia and i'm sure that will continue.
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stephanie? >> given the ongoing restrictions around the pandemic, what sort of funeral services are we going to see? >> yeah, well, typically we would see a very larng procession. crowds would be gathered along the streets to pay their respects to the duke of edinburgh. but that is all in flux now. there is a covid funeral plan being worked on by royal aides. we should know the detail in the next couple days or so. the idea here is to minimize the amount of crowds gathering while at the same time still allowing this country to honor this man and pay their respects to him. we believe the funeral service will be at st. george's chapel at windsor castle. but other details in terms of how people can pay their respects, those are still being worked out. >> to an american audience, he was married for over seven
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decades. what was his role within the royal family? he was also known as the head of the family. the queen was the head of the state. prince philip was the head of the family. the queen believed in this very traditional family role, family experience. really while she was busy running the affairs of state, he was taking care of education. he was really acting as a father figure, not only for his own children, his own four children, but also helping with grandchildren as well. and also an adviser to the queen. these two met when they were still teenagers. they've known each other, had known each other for more than seven decades. he was the one man the queen could talk to not as the queen but just as a wife. very important presence in the queen's life, very important presence as well for the
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children and grandchildren. this will be a big hole for the queen to fill. >> you have been covering the royals for years. what is today like for you, kelly? >> you know, we always knew this moment would come. this is something we plan for. but it is sort of surreal to be standing here now knowing this man who had such an impact in this country has passed away. i mean, this is the end of an era in this country, for royal reporters, i'm sure, who watched this man and gone on official engagements and seen him up close and engaged with him to a certain extent, it really is an end of an era and i guess for me personally, my heart goes out to the family. at the end of the day, this is a grandfather and great grandfather and there's a whole family around him who's very close to him and is in mourning
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today. so that's really sort of where my thoughts are, with the queen, with his children and with the grandchildren. >> we forget that, he is a global figure and also a father, a husband, an uncle and a grandfather. we're thinking of everyone on that side of the pond this morning. now we have to turn to some pretty devastating news here stateside. two communities who are the latest victims of senseless gun violence and people ask why. shootings watching bryan, texas and rock hill, south carolina, leaving family, friends, entire communities in mourning. the headlines, this story becoming all too familiar over the last month. the shooting in bryan, texas, coming just hours after president biden officially announced six new executive actions aimed at curbing gun violence. a shooter opened fire at a manufacturing facility, including one person and injuring five others. a state trooper was one of those people shot, while trying to catch the suspect who's now in
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police custody. but those involved are simply asking one question, why did this happen? >> i was hiding. i was trained to turn my phone down. i told my daughter that i loved her and my husband and i didn't know what was going to happen. >> down in south carolina, police are trying to figure out why on this would occur. a former nfl player shot six people, killing five, before turning the gun on himself. the victims include a prominent local doctor, his wife and two grandchildren, who were just 9 and 5 years old. >> there's nothing about this right now that makes sense to any of us and that's why we're working so hard to try to get more information. >> our team of reporters are on the ground this morning with the latest details, morgan chesky in bryan, texas, sam brock in south carolina. morgan, the suspect was identified overnight. what do we know at this point? >> yes, steph, good morning.
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authorities identified that suspect as 27-year-old larry bowen, who was an employee of kit moore cabinets, that is the business where this shooting took place yesterday. we know authorities say he showed up at that location around 2:30 yesterday afternoon and that's when he opened fire. all told we know he wounded six people, killing one person there. one of those wounded, as you mentioned, was a state trooper. right now he's inside this bryan hospital trying to recover. we're told he's in serious but stable condition. but in the moments following that shooting, we know that boleyn left that scene in a vehicle, pursued by troopers to a nearby town, where one tried to apprehend him and he opened fire yet again, wounding that state trooper. he was taken into custody a short time later. we know as of right now he's in the county jail facing murder charges but at this point in time, there's still no word on any presidential motive. we know atf agents are here on
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the scene continuing to gather evidence today at that business, which remains closed off as they continue to build their case. steph? >> sam, talk to us about where you are. a former nfl player, prominent doctor and his family, are the police saying anything about a motive here? >> steph, good morning. if police know about a concrete motive, they certainly have not disclosed it. what we know at this point is philip phillip adams family home was in very close proximity. if there was a professional or personal relationship there, presumably that is something investigators will be looking at closely now. what is so confounding about all of this, stephanie, and you mentioned this earlier, are the other victims involved, 9 and 5-year-old child killed. two technicians that just happened to be on the property were both shot. one critically injured, one
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killed. it's not clear why phillip adams would have been targeting those folks. this doctor has been in the community as an emergency physician about 40 years. touched so many people's lives. you can see the signs and flowers over my shoulder. i want to read you a statement reacting to the tragedy that say our hearts are bent right now towards forgiveness and peace, love and connectedness, towards celebration and unity. we honor all involved in this story with prayers and compassion specifically the shook family, lewis family and adams family. phillip adams' father spoke to a reporter here from wcnt about his son. here's how he was processing it. >> he was a good kid. i think the football messed him up. you know, i don't think he ever did anybody any harm. all i can tell you, we pray for
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the family. used to be my doctor, a long time ago. i know they were good folks down there. i don't know what happened. we'll keep them in our prayers. >> and, steph, it is worth noting that adam's sister recently told "usa today" that his mental health had been degrading quickly and badly, but she heretofore had not seen any examples of violence until now. stephanie? >> sam, morgan, thank you. think about all of this happening yesterday on the same day president biden unveiling six executive actions to curb gun violence in this country. among the actions, the president wants to make it easier for people to flag family members who should not be allowed to purchase firearms. he's also seeking to limit ghost guns. those are the homemade firearms often created from parts bought
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online without traceable serial numbers. much. >> nothing, nothing i'm about to recommend in any way impinges on the second amendment. they're phony arguments. no amendment, no amendment to the constitution is absolute. >> let's go live to monica alba at the white house. monica, let's make this clear, this is about gun safety, not gun control. what happens next? >> that's the major question, steph, so many people are asking right now because simply to put it quite frankly, after so many of these mass shootings, everyone has wondered what will it take to get something legitimate done? and the president is really saying these are simply initial steps. this is not going to be a problem that is solved overnight. so that was why he's laying out these executive actions that are within his own control and
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executive authority, really in partnership with the department of justice. he's asking his own attorney general to look into this issue of ghost guns and within 30 days to issue a regulation because these weapons are so untraceable and don't have serial numbers. but he said that's just one part of the problem. this is a incredibly complex situation and the president would really like capitol hill to take action on this. though he acknowledges that's not likely something that will happen in the immediate. but he's urging congress to consider an assault weapons ban, to consider perhaps closing some of loopholes. and quite notably, steph, the president is calling to strip gun manufacturers of their liability protection. these are all things that lawmakers at one point or another have said they would consider coming together on but the fact is there just isn't bipartisan support to get something done in the near term. so that's why the president says he's taking these steps, which are very initial and preliminary now, but also he's acknowledging
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that this is likely something where he can say he wants to put his political capital behind it but he's really doing more when it comes to infrastructure or a job plan. he's hoping congress can work on a parallel track to get something done on gun violence prevention, which he called, steph, an international embarrassment, a public health crisis and epidemic in this country. >> and an overwhelming number of americans are looking for more gun safety measures. monica, thank you. coming up next -- after a chilling day in court in the dv -- murder trial, one most important witnesses taking the stand today. what will the medical examiner tell the jurors later this morning? then the floodgates -- that's right, we're corny at 9:00 a.m., the flood gaetz might be opening. the congressman's associate, matt gaetz's associate expected to strike a plea deal. a new reporting on what all of
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in the next hour, the trial of derek chauvin will resume for day ten of testimony. and today the jury could hear from one of the most important witnesses in the case, hennepin county medical examiner dr. baker, the man who performed george floyd's initial autopsy. he's expected to take the stand today. he's someone who can uniquely detail what he saw and specifically how he believes
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george floyd died. that was a question that both sides were focused on yesterday with the state calling on multiple medical experts. the most jarring testimony, from pulmonologist martin tobin, who walked through those nine-plus minutes that chauvin's knee was on george floyd's throat, describing to the jury exactly what was happening to george floyd's body minute by minute. >> you see his knuckle against the tire, and to most people, this doesn't look terribly significant but to a physiologist, this is extraordinarily significant. because this tells you that he has used up his resources and he's now literally trying to breathe with his fingers and knuckles. >> and then revealing the exact moment that he believes george floyd died. >> you can see his eyes, he's
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conscience, and then you see that he isn't. that's the moment the life goes out of his body. >> nbc's shaquille brewster continuing his extraordinary reporting live in minneapolis this morning. shaq, that is tough testimony to listen to. i saw it yesterday. watching it this morning, i still have chills. can you describe how the jury and george floyd's family reacted to hearing those very words? >> stephanie, according to the pool reporters, the two reporters in the room, they say that the jury was engaged throughout the testimony from dr. chauvin, whose key finding there was george floyd died from asphyxia, lack of oxygen basically based on the actions of derek chauvin. the pool reporter said jurors were taking notes throughout. we saw dr. tobin throughout his testimony, he went on and had the jury touch the front of their neck, had them put pressure on the side of their
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neck, really engage with them. you also saw that moment, you played it there, the moment he believes george floyd lost his life, lost consciousness and it was clear on the video. as you mentioned, george floyd's family was in the courtroom, his niece was in the courtroom, and that was the moment the pool reporter said she started crying, she had to leave at a certain point. his family watching from an overflow room. they walked out. they had to spend some time with one another. stephanie, this court, they not only replayed that moment once but they replayed it and slowed it down, put it in slow motion, where you can see his eyes close slowly. incredibly tough testimony but seems to be incredibly powerful testimony as the jury was listening to what dr. tobin had to say. stephanie? >> shaq, i'm sorry to put you on the spot, you may not know, but hearing that we have to ask, do we have any idea what derek chauvin's response was? what was he like sitting during this? >> i don't know during that
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exact moment, stephanie, but based on pool reports -- and there's a camera we can look and see derek chauvin's reactions but throughout he's been taking a lot of notes. staying focused. sometimes he looks up at the screen or makes eye contact or looks towards the witness but there's not much visible reaction you see from derek chauvin. it's also important to note he's wearing a mask so much of that, as most of the people in the courtroom, much of that reaction is disguised. but when you look at the pool reports and what they say about how he walks into the courtroom, he walks in with a briefcase, sets it down. walks with a confidence in him but he's not that expressive based on the pool reports and clips we are seeing of him in the courtroom as he's listening to that testimony, stephanie? >> talk to us about the medical examiner who was going to be testifying today. that's going to be heavy. >> this is some highly anticipated testimony, stephanie. it's andrew baker, dr. andrew baker, hennepin county medical examiner.
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he's the only person to do the official autopsy of george floyd. when he did the autopsy back in may and sent out that release, announced his results in june, he ruled the death a homicide but said it was the result of cardio pulmonary arrest. he mentioned neck compression but did not mention in his report asphyxiation. that gives you an idea why we are hearing from these medical experts, why we heard from dr. tobin and toxicologist and likely a cardiologist he today. they're trying to set up and the prosecution is trying to frame the testimony of dr. baker because that is what the defense has been relying on. dr. baker's testimony and the toxicology report references the fentanyl and the meth in george floyd's system. so this is a way to try to counter that before we hear from dr. baker later today, steph. >> shaq, thank you so much. i hope you get the weekend off. we got to dig into this deeper. joining us now to discuss, glenn kirschner, former federal
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prosecutor and dr. vin gupta, pulmonologist and nbc news medical contributor. we saw the defense attorney eric nelson try to discredit these medical experts, who do not have a dog in this fight. you have been in these cases for years. do you think the defense was good at discrediting them? >> in a word, steph, no. not everyone lends themselves to a good defense. not undermining attorney nelson but there's really nothing he can do to undermine the witness testimony. i have to give a shout out to shaq, who just brilliantly covered and set up what we are covering. dr. tobin set up the one, two, three of george floyd's death and did it brilliantly. it was really important for
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jurors to hear it before they heard today from dr. baker, who actually performed the autopsy. why? when you look through dr. baker's autopsy report, there are some things that are curious and perhaps even beyond curious. for example, dr. baker on page two said, i found no life-threatening injuries to george floyd. dr. baker said, when i looked at george floyd's neck both externally and internally, there were no injuries. that could lead people to conclude then maybe the pressure on george floyd's neck wasn't that significant and wasn't life threatening. but what dr. tobin did by setting up the one, two, three. he said yes, dr. baker found cardio pulmonary arrest was cause of death but why did he suffer cardio pulmonary arrest? it's because of the deprivation of oxygen. three, why was he deprived of life-sustaining oxygen? because of the improper, violation of procedure, unlawful
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conduct of derek chauvin and his cohorts in applying pressure and positionally making it impossible for george floyd to get enough oxygen into his lungs to sustain his life. in a word, dr. tobin was brilliant. >> he was chilling. vin, you are a pulmonologist. what stood out to you in dr. tobin's testimony? >> good morning, stephanie. just to layer on to what glenn just mentioned, actually there's a way to sink in exactly what dr. tobin provided yesterday with the report from dr. baker. as was just pointed out, a common cause of pulmonary arrest is deprivation of oxygen. that is a common cause. we often call it respiratory arrest that can cause a heart attack. that's exactly what happened here. i think what was also really vital was just delineating the ways in which derek chauvin's
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body was actually depriving mr. floyd of oxygen. that was the weight on his chest or on his back, impeding his rib cage from actually elevating. stephanie, that's the only way you can get an effective breath. you need to elevate the rib cage, even if you're not proceeding every time you're taking breath, number one, that's vital. number two, the windpipe was being narrowed just by the force of the knee on the neck. and there's actually a really vital receptor in one of the arteries in the neck. it's called -- it's a vazio receptor and if it gets pressed, massaged or pressed hard, it tells the heart slow down. so there are reasons why what was happening to his body, mr. floyd's body, to cause his heart to suffer and cause him to stop breathing. >> i mean, it was stunning. it's going to be very difficult for the defense to argue this was drug related.
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given that, glenn, i know we only have a few seconds left, what is the most important thing the prosecutors want out of the medical examiner and what does the defense to happen? >> prosecutors want to continue to rule out drugs or underlying heart conditions had anything to do with george floyd's death because they didn't. if i can forecast what you're going to see from the defense expert, the marquee expert, forensic pathologist dr. david fowler, who was my expert in multiple cases in washington, d.c., keep an eye out for one word -- adrenaline. they're going to focus on how adrenaline surges in the body when a restraint is implied and what impact that has on organs and bodily function. so there's still a battle to be fought, though i predict the defense will not win the day. >> dr. vin gupta, glenn kirschner, thank you both for coming. i have the chills now just listening to the two of you. coming up next -- another
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turn unthe volume for this one. stunning new twist into the investigation into congressman matt gaetz. we just learned his associate joel greenberg is likely to plead guilty to the case that led to the sex trafficking investigation. after court, greenberg's lawyer was not shy about how this could impact the congressman himself. >> in matt's case is there anything to worry about? >> matt gaetz -- that is such a -- i'm sure matt gaetz is not feeling very comfortable today. >> officials are looking into whether gaetz engaged with sex trafficking of a 17-year-old girl. as a reminder, he repeatedly denied any wrongdoing and has not been charged with any crime. last night congressman adam kinzinger, republican congressman, became the first republican to call for gaetz's resignation. nbc's tom winter has been all over this story. tom, how likely is it greenberg
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will cooperate in this case? it wasn't an accident his lawyer spoke right outside the courthouse? >> no, it certainly wasn't, stephanie. good morning. his attorney highly respected in the orlando area, has handled a number of high-profile criminal cases. this is not his first rodeo, so to speak. he knows what he's talking about. that comment you played is very important as to matt gaetz. it was something he said later at the press conference i paid close attention to, he wanted the the least accountability for his client. this is going to be very easy, looking at the indictment and evidence that's already been presented in this case, for greenberg. it will be easy for prosecutors to bring a case and conviction against him. i think it's important if you have an attorney who's talking about really kind of bringing down the temperature against his client, he's going to really have to offer something, it's not going to be enough just for greenberg, who you're looking at on screen to come forward and say i did it.
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that's not what he's looking for here. he will have to bring them more and i think that will actually lead to cooperation here, steph. >> then let's go do that cooperation. if he cooperates, what do investigators want to know? >> i think his testimony would be very important to their investigation. first off, was he ever in the room with matt gaetz, who's denied he paid for sex, denied he had sex with underage girls but if he was in the room with matt gaetz as that activity was occurring, that would be very powerful testimony, number one. number two, he could speak to what did matt gaetz tell you, what did he say? what did he want to do? he can provide additional information to the documents as they've already uncovered in this case. on top of that, you know, steph, we talked so many times about how difficult it can be for victims of sex trafficking, underage girls to speak about these experiences and to get them to come forward. they're difficult cases to bring in the courtroom. it's understandable the trauma these victims go through when you have somebody else who can
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walk you through it and underpin their testimony, that's incredibly important. that to me feels like the best avenue for them going forward. >> quickly, regardless of what republicans call for, if gaetz gets indicted, does that force him to step down? >> not at all. as a matter of fact, there have been a number of sitting congressmen, members of the house of representatives as well as senate who have been indicted and continued to serve. it may mean he can be stripped of some of his committee assignments, there could be other ramifications for him. but, no, it's not automatic, not even automatic if you're convicted you have to leave congress, steph, believe it or not, but typically that is the case. >> wow, that selfie photo we just saw there, matt gaetz and greenberg in front of the white house. this story isn't going away. i hope you're working this weekend, tom. coming up next -- the coronavirus pandemic and race to
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for the millions of people on the autism spectrum. go to autismspeaks.org now to the latest on the coronavirus pandemic, with more than 66 million americans now fully vaccinated, the race is on to get more people shots as soon as possible to combat growing concerns over the new variant spreading. let's go live to a remote, high-risk county in new york where nearly 60% of residents are now vaccinated. how did the vaccination rate get so high? that's good news in upstate new york. >> it's great news. good morning, stephanie. a lot of factors that make this county high risk during the pandemic are actually some of the reasons why so many of the
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people here have been able to get vaccinated early on. so when we look at hamilton county, they have the oldest population per capita across the state. they also have the highest rate of folks with disabilities and comorbidities and they have a frontline workers here, a lot of volunteer firefighters and other law enforcement who became eligible to get the vaccine early on. however, to get them the vaccines, the county had to overcome some major obstacles. so we're talking about a place with no cell service, barely any cell service. we found the one spot in the county we could live with you here today, a place with no hospitals and just a single pharmacy. how they pulled this off is the community, small-town networking. the public health department reached out to town and had supervisors put together a list of all of the residents and then the calling and door-knocking began. i spoke to one volunteer in the small town of pa xico, who was
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making calls herself trying to get her neighbors informed and vaccinated to get them protected and she said everyone here knows their neighbor and cares about their neighbors and they're used to working together and working with local law officials and state during tough times. they had their fair share of snowstorms, other crises. so the state knew the public health department would be able to handle this. >> here we have no hospital, we have no pharmacy, we just have the public health department. so instead of sort of siloing the vaccine, they worked with us exclusively, got us the vaccine through the public health department, and then we were able to bring together community organizations, volunteer fire, volunteer ambulance, use our sheriff's office. use the schools as vaccination sites. >> i want to mention the tourism industry here and how that's
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been such a big incentive, driving factor for people to get these vaccines. they've been hit really hard by the pandemic and they're hoping to have a busy summer season. so what a lot of the folks here have been telling me, they want to protect each other and they also want people to feel comfortable here hopefully this summer knowing they almost reached herd immunity. stephanie? >> isa, thank you very much. now to an exclusive nbc story i really hope you pay attention to and i'm begging you to care about. the rising number of people coping with mental health problems this morning, there's new evidence that is true even for young children. the number of kids that are showing up in emergency rooms after contemplating suicide or harming themselves is going up. kate snow joins us with more. kate, what did you find? this is so disturbing. >> it is so disturbing, steph. so suicide among young kids is still not common, to be clear, but many more kids are thinking about it.
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a recent study of 9-year-olds and 10-year-olds found parents and caregivers, were unaware their children had tried to kill themselves in 88% of the cases. half of them didn't even know their children thought about suicide. i went to wisconsin to talk to one mom who wanted to share her story to help other families. >> there's a little swing back over that way that she absolutely loved to play on. >> reporter: last summer brandy was about to take her daughter cody on vacation near their home in wisconsin. >> and about 4:00 that day she called me at work and we facetimed. she said mom, can you facetime me? sure, kid. she lost a tooth. >> reporter: but when brandy went home, the door was open and the only sign of cody was the first note. >> it was the first cry for help and she went all the way. >> reporter: authorities found cody's body in a nearby field. she was 10 years old. >> it was a shock to the system. it was the last thing i was
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thinking was that she was going to take her own life because she wouldn't -- there was no signs. >> none of it made sense to you? >> none of it made sense. >> reporter: death from suicide among children remains rare but the number of children ages 6 to 12 who visited children's hospitals for suicidal thoughts or self-harm has more than doubled since 2016. dr. megan shot, head psychiatric emergency services at children's national hospital. >> when a child asks for help or tells you they're struggling, believe them and help get them mental health treatment. >> reporter: signs parents can look for in young kids, grades dropping, anger and irritability, not wanting to go outside. and while dr. shot said it's good talking about mental health has been normalized, she's concerned younger kids are more exposed now to suicide and self-harm. >> if you see your friend cutting or talking about it, you might start thinking about it. >> happy new year!
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>> happy new year! >> reporter: as a single mom, brandy had been so close with cody. >> do you think maybe she just did something super impulsive? >> absolutely. i think at 10 years old, they can't see past the tip of their nose and they don't understand permanence. >> reporter: she's expecting a baby boy now and decorated his nursery with sloths, cody's favorite animal. she's pleading for families to have conversations with their young kids. >> because if i can be caught off guard and i was so involved with my daughter, it was just me and her, if i can be caught off guard, anybody can. you know, i thought i had beat all of the odds as a single parent and apparently there was one that i missed. >> kate, these are not troubled teens. we're talking about little kids. my own neighborhood in new york city lost a 12-year-old boy this week to suicide. parents, how do we talk to our kids about this? we don't even know how to
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approach it? >> yeah, it's so, so hard. we're talking about 6 to 12-year-olds in the numbers we were looking at. look, steph, here's what the experts have told me, and i'm not an expert but i talk to lots of psychologists. they say, first of all, find the space to have the conversation. it's okay to talk to your kids age appropriately about issues like this. you can ask them in their own language words that they understand like, are you thinking about hurting yourself? are you having thoughts that worry you? are you having thoughts that make you scared? language little kids will understand. it's okay to do that. it's even okay to mention suicide if you think that might be something your child understands. there's evidence, there's research, steph, that that doesn't cause people to then take their own life. talking about it can actually really help. obviously, get professional help. i want to mention we had on "nightly news" on their facebook page a list of resources. i will repost it on my facebook.
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maybe you could do, too. places you can go, there it is from my twitter, places you can go to find more information. >> you know what else helps, kate, you, kate snow, telling these stories. i know they're hard and i'm so grateful that you do it. >> thank you. >> if you or someone you know at home is in crisis, you can call the national suicide prevention line any time day or night at 800-273-talk. that is 800-273-8255. there's always help on the other side of the line.
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subway eat fresh. but not jayson's sub. right now the full-time votes are being counts to sigh if amazon warehouse workers want to unionize. right now it's not looking good for those union organizers. let's go to cal perry on the ground in alabama, is it possible for them to win at this point? do we need steve kornacki at the big board? >> we would be projecting a winner at this point that is against the winner on behalf of amazon. this is going on for weeks. we can put off their statement.
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ly par afraid it for time. there is a lot of legal or egregious behavior. this is about so much more, right? we have the new factory jobs in america. there are hubs of them so the relationship that labor and big tech from here remains to be seen. look for more t to come down th line across the country, steph. >> they are the blue collar jobs of the future. we have to move on only if you hear it. depending on where you live it's getting harder and harder to find. more than 200 million americans don't have a local nooufz at all any more and facebook groups are
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filling the line for better or worse. joining us now with more, brandi, what did you learn? >> hey, steph, so beaver county is still there. so like many communities it's dealing with the gutting of their newspaper. it wasth brought by a huge corporation. and now it just has a few editorial employees. it can't cover the community. a woman started a facebook group called the news alerts of beaver county. that has grown to 45,000 members. it's a00 destination where peop post and comment on local news. and what they hear on the police scanner. now the problem with these groups is that in addition to,
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