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we greatly, greatly appreciate it. and that does it for us this morning. stephanie ruhle picks up the coverage right now. hi, there, i'm stephanie ruhle live at msnbc headquarters here in new york city. it is monday, april 12th, and here's what's happening now. as we speak, america is in a race against time. vaccine distribution hitting record levels. nearly 5 million on saturday alone. but at the same time dozens of states like michigan are still seeing a rise in cases. the governor there demanding more vaccines to handle this surge. the white house thus far says no. speaking of the white house today, president biden is kicking off talks with democrats and republicans over his giant infrastructure package. he's calling it a search for common ground. here's the thing, we have not seen any common ground so far, so what are the chances he finds
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some now? finally, late developments over virginia where a viral video from last december show two local police officers pepper spraying and pointing their guns at a black army medic during a black traffic stop. one of those officers has now been fired. we have reporters spread out from minneapolis to michigan to our nation's capital. but we must this morning start in minnesota, where overnight heated protests broke out after police shot and killed a black man following a traffic stop. the demonstrations were significant enough that the minnesota state patrol and national guard were called in. of course, this is all unfolding as we get ready for the start of week three of testimony in the derek chauvin murder trial. that is set to resume in less than one hour from now. nbc's meagan fitzgerald is covering all of the developments from last night and shaquille brewster watching the trial and civil rights attorney david henderson is with us to discuss all of it. meghan, i want to start with you, what exactly happened
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yesterday? this incident, this man was shot, and protests followed. >> yes, steph, absolutely. i want to set the scene for you. where we are now is the brooklyn police department center, miles away from minneapolis. you can see over my shoulder here, police in riot gear standing by. the civil unrest happened all because of a traffic stop yesterday afternoon at around 2:00 local time. brooklyn center police pull up 20-year-old daunte wright. they say he had an expired warrant, try to take him into custody. according to police, this young man goes back into his vehicle, that's when shots were fired and he ended up dyeing. now, moments later, hours later, as word traveled, hundreds of people flocked to the location, this neighborhood of where this young man was killed, protesting another black life lost at the hands of police. over the course of time, we start to see police arriving there with riot gear on. according to many witnesses on
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the scene, rubber bullets were deployed there. people just really emotional, obviously, given what we've seen over the last year in this area. from there, that's when the crowd of over 100 people, 200 people we're told, start marching to the police department here, meeting police who, again, are in riot gear, flashbangs deployed, tear gas deployed on protesters, many of whom say they threw rocks back at the police, windows at the police station here broken. nearby, not far from where we are here at a shopping center, looters went into stores and, of course, police there on the scene trying to contain the situation in a community on edge. as you mentioned, the national guard has been deployed. state agencies are right now investigating this. the police chief saying there is body camera video, they believe, they will be using to as part of this ongoing investigation. steph, right now we're standing by for a press conference at
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city hall here where we are hoping to get more information in just a matter of hours. >> shaq, let's turn to the trial. prosecutors appear to be close in resting their case. what's left to do? >> stephanie, we could be just hours away from the prosecution officially resting their case against derek chauvin, of course, the ex-officer accused of killing george floyd. the first witness we expect to hear from today is a cardiologist out of chicago who was actually scheduled to testify on friday, but that testimony was pushed to this morning. this is the prosecution trying to hammer home the point that we heard last week, as we heard from the medical experts, they're arguing that george floyd died because of the actions of derek chauvin, not that he died from preenkous heart condition or his use of drugs as the defense is arguing. we also expect to hear before the prosecution rests their case, we expect to hear from a family member of george floyd. reverend sharpton on his show last night said that family member is philonise floyd,
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george floyd's brother. that could set up a possibly emotional moment in the courtroom, of course, hearing from a family member who was impacted by george floyd's death directly. once the prosecution rests its case officially, we expect to hear from defense witnesses. the defense will come up and bring expert testimony to rebut what jurors have been hearing for the past two weeks. once we get to the defense testimony and every potential rebuttal witnesses, this case will then be in the hands of the jury. of course, we don't know when that will happen and the timeline for that, but you are getting the sense, stephanie, we are rounding the corner in this trial. >> david, we know that jurors are supposed to stay away from the news so they don't get influenced. but come on, is that even possible in this case? >> steph, that's difficult to say. i said this from the beginning, this trial needs to be about healing and when riots continue,
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everyone gets ripped right up because of a shooting of what appears to be another unarmed black man. and it's near hennepin county. noes to say jurors have heard about what happened, but it could prevent them from hear evidence in this case. >> do you think the defense will try to use this to hold up the trial? >> i think the most they will do is raise the concern to judge cahill but it's kind of a delicate subject. if they don't know something about it, you don't want to plant that issue in their mind to ask them about it. even if they have strong opinions about this incident, that's not to say they can still be fair jurors in derek chauvin's case. the only concern has to be since it did happen in hennepin county, local agencies tend to do joint trainings so it does reflect a systemic problem. again, right now there's no reason to believe that will prevent this trial from moving forward. >> david, you have said the defense over the last two weeks has missed an opportunity to raise reasonable doubt about
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chauvin's culpability. can you explain that? >> i can. the easiest way it keep this in mind is use a movie analogy, you think about the movie "jaws," you only see the shark two times. way before you see the shark, you hear the ominous music to prepare you for what's coming. in order for the defense to mount a preparedness, they need to mount early on how they're presenting their evidence. you can represent somebody with your head held high or hung low. they've choiced to do it with their head held low, assassinated george floyd's character, bringing up drug use, when really what they should have done is pointed out derek chauvin's actions are part of a systemic product with the minneapolis police department. >> has the prosecution done everything it should do? >> i think it has, steph. it's been overkill but overkill in the best possible way. to the except the community needs assurance, the prosecution has done everything it can, i definitely think they can say they have.
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>> david, shaquille, meghan, thank you all so much. and meghan and shaquille, stay close, we're going to be in touch with you all day long as we continue to cover these developments. now we must turn to the coronavirus, where cases are up nationwide but deaths are down. here's in good news, nearly half of the adult population in the united states has now gotten at least one dose of the vaccine. more than 28% fully vaccinated. but vaccines have not been able to slow the surge of new cases in places like michigan, where the governor is pleading for help from washington. nbc's maura barrett is in lansing. maura, what is going on there? >> stephanie, michigan is beginning it's seventh straight weeks of an increase in hospitalizations. and they're vaccinating several thousand a day here but they said they still haven't seen the peak of testing when it comes to
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the latest surge, and he's predicting it will be eight more weeks until they find their way out of this surge, regardless of any more vaccine allocations the governor is calling for coming from the white house. she spoke yesterday on cbs "face the nation" and why she needs this extra help. take a listen. >> when there is a surge, we think that it's important that we go to -- we rush in to meet where that need is. what's happening in michigan today could be what's happening in other states tomorrow and so it's on all of us to recognize we can squash where we're seeing hot spots. it's in everyone's best interest. >> so the white house said they will not be allocating more vaccines to michigan because they're pushing all available vaccines nationwide and anything they send here, they would have to take away from another state. other deposits suggesting it would be helpful for other monoclonal antibodies like regeneron to be sent here to michigan. i have reached out to doctors to
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see if they requested more of those and have not heard back yet. just before the wk they put in voluntary restrictions people don't eat indoors anymore and high school goes back to remote learning and sports take a pause but those were voluntary because remember the governor was stripped of her emergency powers for any statewide emergency orders to make them mandatory. doctors are very hesitant about these voluntary restrictions being effective because when you look at the date, steph, it's april 2021, but those hospitalizations rates we are seeing is the same as april 2020. there's a lot of concern and frustration from health care providers. >> maura, thank you. we have to dig deeper and find out what this means. let's bring in dr. roger besser, former acting director of the cdc and currently ceo of the robert fordham foundation. i have so many questions but i want to start with the white house telling michigan they will not send more vaccines. i want to share what dr. fauci told our colleague mehdi hasan last night. watch this. >> one of the reasons why we're hesitant to make that kind of
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redistribution is because when you take it away from one state, you never know where you're going to have another surge. so you may inadvertently be essentially facilitating a surge in one place by pulling vaccines away as you try to prevent it or blunt it in another state. >> what do you think? >> well, you know, i think we're seeing a major surge in one state, then we are seeing some states where the supply of vaccine is starting to outstrip the demand, it would make sense to send additional doses to michigan. what they are seeing is really different from the rise that we are seeing in just about any other state around the country. putting additional resources where a hot spot is, is a public health approach that has been used in the past. >> why are we seeing these surges? are people getting infected because they don't have access to the vaccine? or because they're choosing not
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to get it? >> yeah, you know, that's a great question. part of it has to do with the variant that was identified in the uk, the b.1.1.7 that spreads easier be is more deadly than the strain that we've had here, the dominant strain in the past. but it's not clear why michigan is seeing so much more. something has to do, i think, with people's fatigue and people just being tired of following the recommendations of wearing masks, keeping apart, washing our hands and not traveling, but it is different. and what we're seeing in michigan i think we can see in any other state. so dr. fauci's concern while you can pull vaccine away and another state could have a surge, you have to be on the lookout for that because everyone is vulnerable until the level of vaccination is much, much higher, until this pandemic has really burned itself out. >> so when you look at cases across the u.s., even places where they're rising, are they leading to more hospitalizations and deaths?
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the number of seniors who have been vaccinated is very impressive and they're among our most vulnerable. >> yeah, what we are seeing with these surges is very different from surges in the past in that you're seeing a lot of cases but you're not seeing the same number of hospitalizations and you're seeing far fewer deaths. it doesn't mean we're not seeing a lot of deaths, we're seeing hundreds of deaths. there was a day last week it was close to 1,000 deaths in a day. so we have to continue to keep the pressure on to keep this under control. but thankfully the vaccination efforts are paying off, we're not seeing the number of deaths in long-term care facilities and we are seeing high vaccine coverage rates among those who are elderly, who are at the greatest risk. >> i'm in no way disregarding any deaths but if deaths are way down and surges are among people who don't get exceptionally sick, how should we approach lockdowns again? people are fatigued, especially those who are vaccinated, many
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are angered when they're told we have to go back into more strict measures. >> yeah, you know, there's a difference between a lockdown and telling people they can't go out to businesses and can't do things and telling people that they still need to wear masks, at the still need to wash their hands. i don't think that's asking a lot of people. and that can have a major difference. as we're getting out and about, even if we're fully vaccinated, doing those small things can save lives and that's the piece we have to keep people intent on. it's not about keeping all of our businesses shutdown. we can start to get together, especially if we're vaccinated, but doing those little things save lives and that matters. stephanie, if you look at the data on vaccine coverage, it's not equal. there are parts of the country, rural communities that have not been getting their share. we are still seeing a big difference by race and ethnicity and once if we can address those disparities, then talking about
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lightening up some of the restrictions would make a lot more sense. but right now, if we can keep our intensity on this as more and more people get vaccinated, we will save a lot of lives in america. >> vaccine equity must be a top priority. and we have to remember, wear a mask, wash our hands, wash your distance. dr. besser, always good to see you. thank you for joining us this morning. >> thank you very much, stephanie. coming up -- bipartisan maybe. president biden set to meet with lawmakers on both sides of the aisle to sell his infrastructure plan. we will take you live to the white house when the push to get republicans on board begins. plus, we are taking a deep dive into which businesses could benefit from the infrastructure bill. and more than 100 ceos and business leaders met over the weekend to talk about pushing back against the gop-led efforts to restrict voting across the nation. the man who organized that meeting joins us live. you're in the right place. my seminars are a great tool
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this week joe biden is looking to get his big push for his infrastructure bill passed, and we're looking at what industries could benefit from it. so let's start with what is traditionally considered infrastructure, transportation, roads, bridges. biden is asking for a once-in-a-generation spending to fix how we move, with a $621 billion price tag that includes $150 billion to repair roads, bridges, tunnels and, you know, potholes. that is a very big deal because one in five miles of road are in bad shape across the nation and more than 45,000 bridges too. so who's going to take care of this? think about the big companies, one would be caterpillar. it makes construction and mining equipment, which will be needed to do all of that work. same goes for john deere, which makes heavy machinery that can be used for rebuilding. keep in mind industrial stocks have outperformed the s&p over the last three months and the bill hasn't even passed yet.
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what does that tell you? that the market thinks it will get through. the biden team is meeting with a group of bipartisan lawmakers today to talk about the plan, but remember, reconciliation could be an option. the market is telling you, lawmakers are telling you, they don't necessarily need republicans. i want to go straight to carol lee in d.c. let's be honest, biden is doing this bipartisan meeting but is there a snowball's chance in hell any republicans are going to get on board? >> look, steph, it depends on whether this package, how it changes, right? as it is now, more than $2 trillion paying for it with tax increases on corporations, that's a nonstarter for republicans. the senate minority leader mitch mcconnell made that clear. other republicans have made that clear. nonetheless, the president is going to try to get some republicans on board starting with this meeting today with eight lawmakers. there's two republican senators, two democratic senators, two
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democratic house members and two republican house members and they're not some of the folks you might expect the president to try to be wooing but they do serve on relevant committees as relates to infrastructure, particularly senator wicker and senator cantwell are on the commerce, science and transportation committee, for instance. so the white house says this is the beginning of a series of meetings that the president intends to have. he's going to make his pitch. another thing that they've said is he's willing to listen to other people's ideas. and to your point about where there's a snowball's chance of this actually becoming a law, he has to listen to other people's ideas because as the bill stands, it's not something that is going to get republican support, let alone every democrat support. you have senator john manchin of west virginia who said the corporate tax rate increase, for instance, is too high for him. he wants it at a lower rate. the white house has signaled they're willing to compromise on
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that. senator manchin is not part of this meeting today but the white house said this is the beginning of the conversation, first of many to come, steph. >> is that why he chose this particular group of lawmakers? they may not be big-name influencers within their respective parties but they each have a vote and they're real stakeholders in infrastructure. >> yes, that's a great point because the president can't afford to lose any democrats in the senate. he has a very narrow margin, even just among democrats in the house if that's the way this is ultimately going to end, which is just being passed with democratic support. and when it comes to republicans, the president needs any republican, every republican he can possibly get on board. so that's why you see the president starting with lawmakers who might not stand out to those of us who are paying attention to this or people who are watching on your air but they are lawmakers the president is going to ultimately
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need on his side if he's going to get this passed. >> carol, thank you. meanwhile, corporate america trying to figure out how to put their money where their mouth is. more than 100 ceos met on zoom saturday morning to talk about how to deal with the growing pressure of a restricted voting bill across the nation. this comes days after senate minority leader mitch mcconnell says businesses should stay out of politics. before walking those comments back, of course, because he wants their money, he doesn't want their voices. let's dig deeper and bring in the cause organizer, one and only jeffrey sonnenfeld, professor at the school of management. jeffrey, let's start here, ceos, they do not look to weigh in on politics. they follow business and their main priority is make sure their customer is happy and employees are happy. if they're got 1-2 and then number three, their shareholders, will be very, very happy. isn't this about business? >> stephanie, you just nailed it
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so well in framing it. you're right, there's a great pent-up resentment for any political leader to suggest give us your money and shut up. this is taxation without representation. and so this was an act of defiance they were gathering. they're across the political spectrum. the group was probably 65%, 70% republican and they didn't all agree what solution to follow but they were concerned about voter restrictions, which most, if not all, saw as voter repression but they also -- you're exactly right, don't want politicians creating wedge issues. they don't want angry communities and finger-pointing workforces and hostile shareholders that is the fabric of social society being torn apart is bad for business, bad for the many personal values of these ceos and patriotism of a lot of them but many of them, out of, as you pointed,
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self-interest. cerebral harmony should be free of interest of functioning in effect and that means a functioning democracy. >> were you surprised, you anticipated a couple dozen ceos in this. you had scores, some people calling in from augusta. >> you know everything. you have a camera in here? that's exactly what happened. you have seen close up when we've done small forums, and you came to one of our caucuses in oregon several years ago, we give them six months' notice. to give them 48 hours' notice, i thought boy, inviting 120 of these really titanic superstars, these really top business leaders, we would get maybe 10, 12. i thought how do i fill the grid of 25 faces on the gallery of hollywood squares when you have all of these zoom pages? we wound up with 120, 90 the actual ceo business leaders. and they were very candid and very anxious to address these
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issues. and a strong newtal reinforcement of those who boldly stepped out front in the past week and being shot at. the notion of boycotts, when you have the leaders of the american industries from american, delta and united there, giving each other air cover, when somebody says boycott the companies, they better be awfully wealthy and have their own private jets. i don't know how they're going to get around. >> the more people that participated, did they come to listen and learn or do they have something to say? >> it's interesting, a lot of them wanted to unravel some of the muddiness created intentionally about the georgia situation, for example. we had a legal expert, michael waldman from the brandon center of justice and political historian tim snyder and others to go through the details of this. and has been reported others to take a look at how it was 80% better than the original proposal but still 20% quite
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bad, and how the georgia ceos figured that out only after it became public. they didn't know. it was written overnight, ratified by the lower and upper houses that morning and signed midday by the governor, who surely could not have read the 100 pages himself. no ceo and no general public review of it. you look at the spreading of the other 47 states, where it's even more pernicious. a lot of it was educational. what's coming up, and we have a lot of documentation and a lot of discussion, about what is factually in these other states. there are some 330 initiatives in these other 47 states. then there's open discussion about responses. >> was there a clear takeaway? to your point, you've got over 40 more states about to embark on this. >> yeah, actually, reportedly the brandon center is 47, i thought it was 42 myself. i get into the event, and they showed us what's unfurling. some are more pernicious on others, depending on who is the governor who can veto this and veto that's not overridden.
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still, the press were in 47. and the takeaways are some of them are taking a look on things they can do on a state-by-state basis. since we're close friends and i always tell you everything, brad carp, the chairman of paul weiss, one of the nation's premiere law firms, bonded together 60 of the nation's law firms, trying to get 100 of the largest law firms together, but he has s.w.a.t. teams ready to go state by state starting immediately if there are battles where they need election law expertise to for theify this. there are things line people who are major league owners of teams that are talking about what they're learning from mlb, the major league baseball move. by the way, we learned the national survey was far more popular even among avid baseball fans than imagined. we're looking at what options does that give you? some are looking then a look at state-by-state initiatives, cutting off funding for the campaigns of legislators that
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applied for these restrictions, putting a moratorium, on hold on major ramp-ups into states that would put their employees in a position of feeling they're not welcome or denied voice. in other opportunities like looking at paid time off, they're so excited, this past november it's not only the largest and more secure election, but the ceos had a hand in that because this is the first time we not only had millions of workers with paid time off to vote, whatever the hours are, however restricted, but also a million but a little bit more than a million of these -- these employers -- employees had time off to actually work in the polls to help fortify at-risk elderly workers at these polling places. there are some of those kinds of solutions, as well as some who favor hr-1, preemptive guidelines, some favor hr-4, the john lewis, as you know, voting rights act of '65 re-enacted to catch misconduct. some say there are misconduct --
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>> jeffrey, let me jump in, we just got breaking news that will smith and apple have just pulled out of a move yes and this planned to produce in the state of georgia. it was titled "emancipation: a slave thriller," obviously in response to what's happening there. can i get your thoughts on the immediate trickle-down impact, to the georgia economy, all of those local georgia businesses who are dependent on the movie business? remember, it was a couple years ago stacey abrams urged the media, entertainment industry, don't leave georgia. our economy needs you. we heard the same thing from small businesses in georgia over the last week when, just think about it, they lost 9,000 hotel rooms like that when the mlb decided to leave. will smith, apple, mlb, talk about how that impacts in the short term georgia's economy, local economy? >> good for you for clearing the air stacey abrams and others fighting for voter access in
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georgia are not calling for boycotts or these disruptive moves. they're afraid of them happening and this is because, as we heard from team owners, that they're listening to their workforces, the major league players, in this case actors who don't want to go into a hostile state. so what's the takeaway from that? and thank you for sharing that breaking news. the takeaway from that, if you're mad about that, go back to your legislatures! the georgia legislature is technically out of session right now. they can regroup tomorrow and go back for a special session on the fourth of july. right now you have a special session set for august. they have a redistricting session. they can revive it then. and governor kemp, he has until the first of july, months after he already signed it, to rescind his signature, put public pressure on him to rescind his signature and fix the law. but if people are uncomfortable going there, they're paying an economic price. but none of the voting rights advocates in georgia have been
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lobbying in favor of these kinds of things, they're just afraid of such things. as you saw pretty harsh statements coming out of microsoft, which is in the process of sending many employees in there too. this is not isolated to entertainment or to sports across the board, this is a major financial institution putting on hold the movement of people into georgia right now. >> the state lawmakers could regroup tomorrow, or why wait? they can do it today. jeffrey, always good to see you. thank you for joining me this morning. coming up next -- we have frightening new details that are emerging about the capitol riots that took place january 6th, including how then vice president mike pence demanded the acting defense secretary clear the capitol. plus, american extremism going mainstream. morgan radford has a jaw-dropping interview with a former kkk leader who's now trying to rebrand himself as an ordinary politician. there's nothing ordinary about a kkk leader. this is wealth.
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calling the acting defense secretary and ordering him to clear the capitol. at the very same time, senate majority leader chuck schumer and house speaker nancy pelosi were in another part of the building pleading for military leaders to deploy the national guard. more than an hour after the senate chamber had been breached. and that the pentagon, the ap said officials were concerned the violence wasn't just confined to these states and other state capitols were facing similar riots in a national insurrection. morgan radford joins us now to tip off our week-long special look at the roots of extremism in the united states. morgan, you managed to get a jaw -- this interview, people must see it. a jaw-dropping interview with a former kkk leader who is now trying to rebrand himself as a mainstream politician. he says he's no longer a member of the kkk, but he's running for public office and he hasn't clearly denounced the principles. so who is this guy today? >> that's a great question,
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stephanie. and i will let you -- you use the interview for yourself and our viewers can decide, but the reality of it is, my producer erin franco and i have been tracking and following and reporting on extremism for years. just this year the adl tells us the amount of white supremacist propaganda reached an all-time high in 2020 and that was the highest they had ever seen in the nearly 50 years they've been tracking these types of movements. what we are seeing was interesting, stephanie, as you can imagine the repacking of the these supremacists and extremist ideations and they're using them to say we're effectively conserve tv ideals. they're conflating conservatism with extremism. listen to what chester doles told me when i questioned him about his past, and as you asked, who he is today. >> i know you have come out and denounced racism but as i was looking at social media, you put this picture here that joe
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de-val was coming to speak. and this is him, a racist, it's the nazi hand gesture. then he posted here, "get in, we're hunting judon." and he's talking about jest ws at your platform. do you think of him as a whites supremacist? >> i wouldn't call him a white supremacist. i think he has some issues and i didn't know he was quite that extreme. >> that was before you invited him, before you invited him he posted these things? >> i was not aware of his street activism. >> what about on your social media, these are people following you with swastikas and white power signs. why are people attracted to you on your platform? >> i don't know, many they're good people as far as american citizen and stuff. >> can you be a good person and american citizen with swastika and white power? >> i don't look at people's personal, you know, what they're all about. >> as you can see, stephanie,
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this is how these ideologies are beginning to infiltrate our mainstream political system. chester is running there in lumpkin county, georgia, for a county commissioner seat. we share these things so people can really understand how these ideologies are growing, how they're moving and how they're on local ballots. stephanie? >> local ballots, lawmakers. i'm urging you, watch all of morgan's report on "meet the press" reports streaming now on peacock. this is an important story. morgan, thank you. moving forward, former president donald trump lashed out at senate minority leader mitch mcconnell and fellow republicans over the weekend at a big republican fund-raiser. trump calling mcconnell dumb s.o.b. and stone-cold loser. and pointed out that mitch mcconnell never lost a race, he's been in office since 1985 but, however, trump blamed mitch
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constitutional rights, and now one of those officers has been fired. sam brock joins us now with more. sam, anybody who's turned on the news this weekend has seen at least parts of this video. can you explain this all to us. >> as you've suggested, stephanie, this certainly prompted a lot of questions, i will say. the traffic stop itself was flagged by police as high risk. part of what started this whole thing so we've seen from that point onward a federal lawsuit filed by nazario, a lieutenant in the u.s. army, who said in a lawsuit he was facing excessive force from officers. he also said he was being profiled by police. we've learned from this point in time, stephanie, one of the officers involved in the incident has been relieved of his duty. the initial call for a felony traffic stop immediately turned tense, with officers pulling their weapons. >> put your hands out of the window! >> reporter: a windsor police officer says in his report he spotted a vehicle with dark,
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tinted windows and no license plate displayed that was eluding police. a lawsuit says the paper license plate was visible in the rear window of the new car. >> how many occupants are in the vehicle? >> it's only myself. why are your weapons drawn? what's going on? >> reporter: the two officers demanding u.s. army lieutenant karen nazario exit the suv as body cameras and his cell phone were all rolling. >> what's going on? >> reporter: nazario, who is black and latino and wearing his military uniform, asks repeatedly why he's being detained. >> i'm serving my country and this is how i'm being treated? >> reporter: one of the officer as peers to make a reference to the electric chair, according to the lawsuit. and then this exchange. >> i'm honestly afraid to get out. >> you should be! get out! >> reporter: over joe gutierrez then pepper sprays nazario in
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the face. >> this is [ bleep ] up. >> reporter: overnight in a statement, the town acknowledged the unfortunate events. officer gutierrez has since been terminated by the windsor police. now a civil suit alleging a violation of constitutional rights. >> my client wants to prevent those two officers from doing it to anyone else. >> reporter: nazario admits in his complaint he didn't immediately pull over, driving nearly two minutes with his hazard lights on so he could stop at a well-lit gas station. in a report, one of the responding officers writes, the driver was actively resisting when i attempted to unlock and open the driver's door, the driver assaulted myself by striking my hand away. >> the supreme court has held since 1977 that even for a routine traffic stop, officers have the power and the discretion to order a driver out of the car. >> reporter: and we did reach out to officer joe gutierrez overnight. so far we have not heard back on any of those requests.
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as for virginia's governor raffle northam, he called this incident disturbing and directed virginia state police to direct an independent investigation, stephanie, into the matter. back to you. >> and we will be asking more questions as well. thank you. up reaction from prince william and prince harry after the death of their grandfather, prince phillip. grandfather, prince phillip. ylv, his father was a miner, they were immigrants from italy and somewhere along the way that man changed his name and transformed himself into a successful mid-century american man. he had a whole life that i didn't know anything about. he was just my beloved grandpa. bring your family history to life like never before. get started for free at ancestry.com retirement income is complicated. as your broker, i've solved it. that's great, carl. but we need something better. that's easily adjustable has no penalties or advisory fee.
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just minutes ago the royal family speaking out releasing statements on the death of their grandfather, prince phillip. they recognize his service to the country and their family. only 30 people are expected to attend the funeral including prince harry but not meghan markle and not boris johnson because of covid restrictions. kelly, tell us more about the statements and what we expect in the days to come. >> yes, so we heard from both prince william and prince harry in the past hour. they both talked about their grandfather on very personal
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terms. talking about personal memories like prince williams and his son, george, riding on the carriage with prince phillip just a couple years ago. taking them on carriage rides, but also really focusing on the service. prince phillip's service to his country. take a look at part of what he said. he said my grandfather was an extraordinary man and part of an extraordinary generation. katherine and i will continue to do what he would have wanted and support the queen in the years ahead. i miss my grandpa but i know he would want us to get on with the job. prince harry also talking about his service, humor, and his ability to charm a room. on that note, grandpa, thank you for your service, your dedication to granny, and for always being yourself. you will be sorely missed and always remembered by the nation and the world. meghan, archie, and i as well as
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your future great granddaughter will hold a special place in our hearts. he will remember his grandfather like many of us do as the master of the barbecue and cheeky right to the end. i think you will see in the next few days a royal family really coming together. they are sadly well practiced in the art of grieving publicly. they have done it so many times in the past several decades and you will see this family not talking about the rift, not talking about the oprah interview. just a stiff upper lip, surrounding around the queen for support in the days ahead, steph? >> a very sad time for the royal family. but honoring an extraordinary man who lead a long and extraordinary life. kelly, thank you so much for joining us. thank you at home for watching. that wraps up this very busy hour. i'm stephanie ruhle. hallie jackson is picking up with coverage of the derek
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