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been talking about burn pits for years as the agent orange of the post-9/11 generation. >> and we will continue the conversation. >> that does it for us this morning. stephanie ruhle picks up the coverage right now. ♪♪ ♪ hi there. i'm stephanie ruhle live from msnbc headquarters here in new york city. it is wednesday, april 14th and there is a ton of news to get to this morning. in just a few hours from now a cdc advisory committee meets to plan a path forward after recommending states stop giving out the johnson & johnson vaccine because of worries about potential blood clots. the risk is teeny tiny. it is less than one in a million cases, but the fallout from the cdc's decision could be massive. plus this afternoon, president biden will announce official plans to end america's longest war 20 years after it began.
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the process of bringing u.s. troops home from afghanistan could start within weeks from now. in minneapolis, minnesota the trial of derek chauvin resumes later this hour and the defense picks up its case as it tries to plant some seeds of doubt about the death of george floyd, this, as tensions grow following the police shooting of another black man just a few miles away. we have our team of nbc reporters spread across the country covering all angles of these stories and more, and i want to go to the breaking news in minnesota where at least 60 people were arrested after protesters broke curfew and took to the streets for a third straight night following that police shooting of a 20-year-old man just a few days ago. i want to go right to morgan chesky in brooklyn center, minnesota. walk us through how things played out last night. >> steph, they played out right here in front of the police department which is still lined with the high fence, and still
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has national guard humvees and soldiers stationed around that location and that's because for three nights in a row now we have seen hundreds of protesters converge on this block behind me, demanding for change and call for example justice in the death of daunte wright. this was a slightly different scene than what we saw in nights prior in that it was mainly located here in front of the police station. you did mention the 60 arrests and there was significant looting in a strip mall a quarter mile from where i'm standing and that was left alone last night, but police say it again, using tear gas and choosing to use rubber bullets in some cases and smoke to clear out this scene after protesters, hundreds of them violated curfew orders yet again and that still remains in effect at this point in time and with potential charges coming after former officer kim potter today, people could be in for another long
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night and we do expect protesters to continue to gather at this scene who told me they've essentially been out protesting this very thing since the death of george floyd not too far away from where we are right now. this is very much a community that is still trying to heal. >> let's talk about that officer, kim potter who shot daunte wright. she's resigned and the chief of police has, as well. what can you tell us? >> we do know about the police chief submitted his resignation and potter, this is the only time we heard directly from her via the written word here, and she said she felt it was in the best interest of her community and her department and fellow officers that she resign immediately. meanwhile, the investigation into her actions still continue by the minnesota bureau of apprehension and he anticipates to have a decision on whether or not charges will be filed by some time today. the police chief was the one who came out after this video was
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released and said that upon reviewing that encounter, that fatal encounter with daunte wright, he believed this was an accident saying that he saw his officer pull her side arm say taser, taser, taser before firing that single fatal shot killing that 20-year-old. a medical examiner's report saying he died from a single gunshot wound to the chest. we had a chance to hear from the aunt of daunte wright yesterday. i want you to hear just the emotion that she shared in her own voice. take a listen. >> they murdered my nephew! she killed my nephew! my nephew was 20! did you all not see my little great nephew? did you all not see that beautiful baby? he is fatherless! not over a mistake! over murder! >> and we do anticipate hearing from the family of daunte wright
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at some point today. we know that they've been calling for people to mourn his loss, but to, please, not use violence as the answer here. >> morgan, we will stay all over this story, please come back to us with any updates, but for now, let's turn to the other big story of the morning. the johnson & johnson vaccine on hold across the nation. states and cities scrambling to make sure that people slated to get the vaccine don't miss out on getting one entirely. nbc is in virginia where they're running a multi-day clinic. >> heidi, i know they were supposed to be giving out j&j, vaccines where you are. what are they doing? >> it was an epic scramble yesterday, steph, with this clinic supposed to be debuting two hours before officials getting the word no johnson & johnson vaccine today and they had to scramble and they did cobble together enough pfizer vaccine to not have to cancel any of these appointments, steph, but the situation here in
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manassas underscores the critical role that the johnson & johnson vaccine has become to play here in serving underserved communities with vaccine. behind me you will see that a lot of the individuals coming here they are latino minority population members. they are individuals who were concerned about potentially having to show documentation. they were very interested in getting that one-shot dose. they're still coming, the mayor tells me, but she is concerned about when johnson & johnson comes back some of the work that they'll have to do to bring people back. take a listen to what she had to say. >> it's probably going to take my leaders like congresswoman wexton, just get it, get it, get it. just get the vaccine. we'll probably have to put more push behind it once they say it's okay. it's just convincing.
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so the johnson & johnson vaccine was used on populations like this and used in mobile clinics to treat, for instance, homeless individuals so the concern here is that this comeback, not too long from now, that the pause be short and the cdc, of course, is meeting later today at 1:30. hopefully we will get more information and a time line here, steph. >> now we know what is going on. let's find out what it all means to you. let's bring in dr. william schaffner, professor of infectious diseases at vanderbilt university. he is also a cdc adviser and here's why especially i want to talk to him today, he was part of a working group yesterday setting the stage for today's big cdc meeting. doctor, i know that the details of yesterday's meeting are confidential, but what can you tell us, take us behind the scenes and what can we expect to hear today? >> stephanie, first thing we're going to hear is how good this surveillance system is for
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adverse reactions, for vaccine safety. the people in the united states don't realize how comprehensive this system is, so any small signal, as you were saying it was a needle in a hay stack. six women in 7 million people vaccinated. that's very impressive. we couldn't have done that 20 years ago and now we want to look very carefully at these cases and make sure there aren't any others before we go ahead and make more recommendations and the committee today will review all of the data openly, transparently, anybody can tune in in real time and see how this public approximately see decision is made. it's a great strength of our vaccination system. >> to that very point, the anti-vaxxer argument has always been there's not enough review or oversight, but doesn't this situation prove exactly how much
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oversight there really is? six cases out of 7 million people. >> absolutely. you and i are in total agreement here. this is a very comprehensive system that is -- there is a response, further investigations ensue so we can be totally clear to the american population what's going on and we can tailor the use of this vaccine and any other vaccine to the appropriate populations at absolutely minimal risk. >> for people who did get the johnson & johnson vaccine in the last week or two, how worried are you about potential blood clots for them? >> well, the risk is about one in a million so it's very, very rare, but should any of those people develop any symptoms, really severe headache, abdominal pain, difficulty
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breathing, please, go get medical care and tell your doctor that you received the j&j, vaccine. >> so what is your best pitch to people who now say they're uncomfortable and want to take a pause and there are people who are anti-vaccine and the mixed messages have them concerned and now we have more mixed messages. >> well, as the mayor was saying, we're going to have to reach out to people and reassure them, provide them information, but make them comfortable in coming in. remember, the risk from covid is up here. that's -- that's the real risk. that's why we're using the vaccine. the risk from the vaccine is down here. very, very tiny. from my point of view, the equation solves easily in favor of getting the vaccine. please, roll up your sleeve, get vaccinated, get protected for yourself and your family and
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your community. >> doctor, thank you so much for joining me. always great to get your well-informed, sober and serious analysis. >> my pleasure. let's bring in asa hutchinson, republican governor of the state of arkansas. i know you are taking the cdc's advice. do you believe the health risk warrants a pause like this when it comes to the j&j, vaccine? >> to me there's only one real reason for the pause and that is enough time to get the treatment information out to all the physicians so that they know how to treat it in the event a blood clot arises from this that should take a matter of 24 hours. it's, quickly, we can disseminate the information on the treatment and as dr. schaffner pointed out, the risks are so minimal we need to lift this pause as quickly as possible, and i'm talking about in a matter of hours and days in order to get this important
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vaccine out to those populations that otherwise wouldn't have access to it. so it is a concern to me in terms of we have resistance in the rural america already and i don't want this to give greater cause or pause to getting the vaccine. >> let's talk about that resistance because arkansas was already 46th out of 50 states in terms of getting shots in arms. how does this news impact yourh supply of vaccines. the access to the vaccine is there and so it is really a demand issue that we have right now and it is up to every citizen of arkansas and america to get their shot and the resistance, i think, comes from what they read on the internet, the natural resistance to some vaccines. you look at the flu shot in
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rural america and the participation in flu shots is not as high as it is in urban america, perhaps, and so there's a natural resistance that we have to overcome, but we are in a race against the clock. whenever you see cases that are increasing -- and the hospitalizations and the fact that we are winning the battle of what is the perception. they say it's over with, and maybe it deletes the sense of urgency to get the vaccine. we've got to overcome that, and i say we could be like michigan 30 days from now if we don't get this vaccine. it's a rush to get it and that's what we're pushing. >> so what are you doing about it? 30 days from now you could be like michigan. a month ago you were worried that people in arkansas were being too hesitant to take the vaccine. this johnson & johnson news could only make them more hesitant. what are you going to do? >> well, we'll have to overcome
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the resistance. we're using influencers and minority communities. we're actually having efforts to knock on doors as needed and communities to actually encourage people to get the vaccine. so there are a number of parts of the marketing and community efforts to overcome that resistance, but it's also about the information flow that comes out of washington or the cdc and that's one of the reasons they need to clear this up very, very quickly which appears to be doable and where it should give confidence and this is the message we need to have, this illustrates the confidence that you should have in the vaccines because we are able to detect one even out of one million risk factor. and so that should weigh in our favor and they were transparent about it. they were transparent. i applaud them for it, but let's
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get back and let's lift this pause as soon as the doctors know how to treat this. >> before you go, i want to shift gears for a moment and ask you about the state legislation that prohibits gender reassignment surgery. you vetoed it, but it was overwritten. there are families of transgender children already going through treatment. now that it is off the table, what is it like for them? >> well, it's a great concern. i would have a bill that simply prohibited sex reassignment surgery for minors. this went further to restricting hormonal treatment with the parent or the doctor's consent or agreement that that is the right plan. this bill was overbroad. it was extreme and that's the reason i vetoed it and most importantly it didn't have a grandfather clause. so there are some young people that are actually undergoing treatment under the supervision
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of their doctor and the parent and we're enter fearing. >> that's what i'm talking about. >> and they'll wind up going out of state if they can afford it or they'll try to get it elsewhere because it puts them in great jeopardy. i hope the legislature will look at remedying that, but it's a great concern to me. >> have any of those families reached out to you? they're mid-treatment. >> hundreds of them have, not just here in arkansas, but across the country and they're worried about this map taking place in other state, but yes. they're concerned about it. the physician community is concerned about it and i regret that that happened. i hope, again, that there's some movement for putting them into place, a grandfather clause. i hope that that could happen for the sake of these young people and passing laws is about approximately see and it's also about compassion and it's a
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conservative, compassionate view that we let these know that love the children best. >> compassion has to be a part of policy making. thank you for joining me. i appreciate it. >> thank you, stephanie. let's turn to breaking news off the louisiana coast. a desperate search is going on right now after a commercial ship capsized in the gulf of mexico. these images coming in after six people were rescued. searchers are still looking for 13 others who were on that 129-foot boat. a local meteorologist says winds in the area were 70 to 80 miles per hour when the boat capsized making for very rough seas. coming up next, the new reporting surrounding the investigation into florida congressman matt gaetz. has his former ally officially flipped? then the major announcement coming today from the white house to end america's longest war. it's actually on the horizon, but first, a live look at the
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officially withdraw all troops from afghanistan by september 11th, four months later than what the trump administration had agreed to with the taliban. the war has lasted over 20 years and cost us over $2 trillion and most importantly, more than 2300 troops plus untold numbers of afghan citizens who lost their lives. this comes two weeks before the president's joint address to congress after he accepted spooker speaker pelosi. kristin welker at the white house. this troop withdrawal basically ends one of our forever wars. what's the president's strategy here? we know it was the top priority for former president trump. >> that's right, steph. this is not a surprise. candidate biden and even when he was vice president under former president obama had called for a drawdown of troops in afghanistan, but had been very insistent that there needed to be a residual force left there
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in order to keep the peace. so what are we expecting today when we hear from president biden? well, he's going to thank the troops, their families for their service, for their sacrifice over the past two decades. he's also going to defend this strategy, steph. he is going to argue that there is no longer a military solution in afghanistan, and that the threat from al qaeda has just fundamentally changed. now already we are seeing some pushback. republican, the top republican in the senate, mitch mcconnell calling this a grave mistake, saying it could, without a peace plan open up the region in afghanistan to chaos and violence and create a vacuum for terrorists. we're also hearing that type of criticism from some officials privately at the pentagon. the bottom line, though, a number of administration officials pushing back against that criticism. they say, look, there will be a small footprint, an intelligence
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footprint and otherwise to keep the peace while a broader, diplomatic deal is reached which something they hope happens in the months and years ahead, steph. >> let's talk about his joint address to congress. before he speaks he'll be making history because for the first time he'll be standing in front of two women, speaker pelosi, and vice president kamala harris. witness he does actually speak, what's he expected to say. >> steph, let's just pause right there to emphasize what you just said. that is going to be an incredibly historic moment because president biden will be standing in front of two women. there are going to be other characteristics of this speech and of this moment, quite frankly, that are historic. the fact that it is taking place against the backdrop of covid-19. that's one of the reasons why this was so delayed because congress was trying to find a moment and a time when they felt safe to have lawmakers back to gather for this joint address.
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this will be a socially distant event, we are told. in terms of the substance from president biden, this will take place right before he marks 100 days in office so expect him to tout what he sees as one of the key accomplishment, and the covid relief package and what he's pushing for now, the infrastructure belt. steve? . >> let's point out that the latest we've seen from the intelligence community saying that these four countries are topping the list of threats to the u.s., china russia, iran, north korea and watchdog found that they ignored key intelligence before the january 6th riot according to "the new york times." officials will be speaking about all of this at the senate intelligence committee worldwide threats hearing set to start moments from now. nbc's ken delaney has been all over the story. over the last years, the main
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threats we were worried about, isis, al qaeda, attacks. has that changed given the rise in terrorism? >> it has changed and the perception of policymakers have changed because the threats described in the report from rogue powers, china, rush a iran, north korea, they've been with us for a long time and we're worried about international terrorism than has been justified and it's been years since isis has been able to attack the homeland and it's a couple of paragraph. what this assessment focuses on is the danger that china is trying to subplant the united states as the dominant world power. china is trying to double its nuclear weapons capacity over the next few years and it's trying to best the united states in space and is trying to expand its influence around the world all with the effort of undermining the u.s. and the global order from world war ii,
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russia, north korea, iran are trying to undermine america and even kill americans in some cases. so policymakers are focused on these threats as opposed to the diminished threat of international terrorism. >> thank you. >> we also have new developments this morning in the sex trafficking investigation into florida republican congressman matt gaetz. two sources has been cooperating with federal official since last year. last year. that mean it was trump's department of justice that started this, quote, joel greenberg, a one-time county tax collector disclosed to investigators that he and mr. gaetz had encounters with women and were giving cash or gifts in exchange for sex. greenberg began speaking with investigators once he realized the government had overwhelming evidence against him and that his only path to leniency was if he flipped on the congressman.
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gaetz has denied ever paying for sex and the spokesman for the congressman says the story has now turned into a general phishing exercise about vacations and consensual relationships with other adults. nbc news has not yet confirmed the reporting from "the new york times." coming up next, we're taking you back to minneapolis as derek chauvin's defense calls its first witness. when you need to know today. s first witness. when you need to know today. ♪ ♪ nothing and me go hand in hand nothing on my skin, ♪ ♪ that's my new plan. ♪ ♪ nothing is everything. ♪ achieve clearer skin with skyrizi. 3 out of 4 people achieved 90% clearer skin at 4 months. of those, nearly 9 out of 10 sustained it through 1 year. and skyrizi is 4 doses a year, after 2 starter doses. ♪ i see nothing in a different way it's my moment ♪ ♪ so i just gotta say... ♪ ♪ nothing is everything. ♪
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just miles away from the scene of overnight protests in brooklyn center, any minute the trial of derek chauvin is set to resume in minneapolis with a motions hearing. the defense will then call its next witness. it comes after the defense got its first chance to present its case calling six witnesses to the stand including a woman who was in the car with george floyd, and an officer and a medic who were involved in floyd's 2019 arrest. the most significant testimony of the day came from use of force expert barry broad who said he believed chauvin's actions were, quote, justified. >> in many instances where handcuffs were removed from a drug influence suspect and as soon as they were removed or some type of first aid measure started to be applied the person is right back to fighting you and you're in a fight for your life. >> during cross-examination the prosecution fought back hard on this.
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>> what part of this is not compliant? >> i see his arm position in the picture that's posted. a compliant person would have both of their hands in the small of their back and resting comfortably opposed to moving around. >> did you say resting comfortably. >> attempting to breathe is being slightly noncompliant? >> no. >> no. >> joining us now, nbc news correspondent shaquille brewster in minneapolis and kirk burkhalter, professor and retired nypd detective. let's start with the trial today. the motions hearing later this hour. what's it all about? >> stephanie, we expect a motion to come from eric nelson, the defense lawyer. he's expected to file a judgement of acquittal. this is a pro-forma motion filed and once the prosecution rests his case, we were expecting to
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see that yesterday and for timing they moved that to be handled in a motions hearing this morning essentially asking the judge to render a decision because they're arguing the prosecution did not make their case in the prior -- as they laid out their case in the initial part of this trial. it's not expected to go anywhere, but we know that will be the first thing that we hear from today. we also know the judge said there were several other outstanding moags to be discussed. we don't know the contents of those, but he did warn that as they're talking about those, the testimony -- the start of testimony may be pushed back a little bit. overall, stephanie, you're seeing a shift in the testimony that we're hearing so far as the defense begins to make its case. you heard them focus on the behavior of george floyd playing that body camera video from 2019, bringing up an officer and a paramedic that interacted with george floyd in 2019 which, of course, was a year before he was killed in 2020. we saw them bring up the use of force expert to contradict the
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experts that the prosecution team brought up. that expert testified about the use of force, the use of force used by derek chauvin was not only justified, but objectively representable saying the knee on george floyd's neck was not him exerting any force. he had to walk that back a little bit in some of the cross-examination that you just played, but you're getting a sense that the defense is trying to do what they can and do what they are supposed to do which is poke holes in the prosecution's case and create as much doubt as possible. >> kirk, what did you make about this use of force expert saying chauvin's actions were justified? >> it was very interesting. woe saw kind of the tale of two cities between the prosecution's case and the defense's case, and the prosecution jumped on this on cross, right? so this use of force expert says the force was justified and then he went a step further and had floyd just been resting comfortably.
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it is very hard envisioning someone resting comfortably with their hands behind their back and their breathing restricted. we knew this was coming because this was the goal of the defense's case, not looking so much to exonerate derek chauvin because that would be an impossible mountain to climb. however, the goal of the prosecution here is -- i'm sorry, the defense is to sow doubt, reasonable doubt and the defense -- the prosecution must prove its case beyond a reasonable doubt, and if the defense can just so doubt, just put enough people on the stand who will contradict the evidence that the prosecution set forth, there is a possibility that one or two jurors may not be willing to vote for a guilty verdict, and that's the best the defense can hope for now and that's the purpose. the problem is we saw such high-quality testimony from seasoned witnesses in the past couple of weeks in the beginning of this trial.
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it's a very -- it's a high mark bar, rather, for the defense to get over. >> then, kirk, let me ask you about somebody else who took the stand, shawanda hill, a friend of george floyd's. she was in the car with him that day. why would she be testifying for the defense? >> you know, when i see a witness like this and noting that this witness did not testify for the prosecution, my first instinct tells me is that she's a witness for the defense because for whatever reason the prosecution did not feel that she would have been effective and perhaps advance their case. so the defense is taking a chance that whatever it is that doesn't work for the prosecution is likely going to work for the defense. i don't know how well that worked. certainly, there is this specter of this is another person who was in the car with george floyd and perhaps a person who was also someone who has a problem
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with drugs. it is no secret that the defense just wants to keep hammering home away this theory that because of george floyd's prior drug use and possibly his associations at some point. he was the cause of his death. i do believe that's the motivation for putting that particular witness on the stand. >> shaq, take us outside the courtroom. has the mood changed on the ground or even in the courtroom now that there are so many protests so close by? >> well, we saw initially right after the shooting, the shooting did make its way in the courtroom in term of that conversation when the defense attorney asked for the jury to be immediately sequestered and the judge denied that motion, but when you look outside the courtroom at least in the downtown area, things were tense, you saw the fencing and the barbed wire and the military vehicles and the big difference you're seeing now after the shooting in brooklyn center, that has expanded and the acceleration of that show of force has happened a little bit
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more quickly. 2,000 members of the national guard are activated and you are seeing them in downtown and brooklyn center. this was always a planned acceleration and this was slated to happen with the start of closing arguments, but that was pushed up a little bit because of the shooting. >> kirk, shaquille, thank you both so much. we have to leave it there. we have breaking news. bernie madoff has died in federal prison. he was serving time for a ponzi scheme that cost thousands of investors billions of dollars. we'll stay on the story and bring you more details as we get them. coming up next on msnbc we keep hearing about companies making statements about voting rights, but a new initiative plans to go beyond words and take real actions of another very important issue facing our country, and a closer look at the infrastructure bill and what it means for you and how you could be getting around. and hou could be getting around.
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what is in president biden's infrastructure bill and today we are looking at what could be a game changer, electric vehicles. right now they make up just 2% of car sales and only 1% of all vehicles on the road, but biden wants to change that and kick-start a whole new era of driving. so what's in the plan? he wants $174 billion bucks to boofrt the electric vehicle market in the u.s. and while that is a heavy price tag, think about how it could change our lives. it includes rebates to make it cheaper to buy electric cars and it boosts the number of charging stations across the country from 100,000 to 500,000 and that would make it more practical to own one of these cars. there are climate benefits as well. they're all electric and that means it's good for automakers and clearly for tesla, the electric carmaker and gm who says they plan to go
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all-electric in the next 14 years and keep in mind, this is only one part of biden's plan. so while this is interesting and ambitious, it's not stand alone. he wants to get the whole thing passed by this fall. speaking of gm this morning, gm is among hundreds of companies including google, amazon and netflix who have signed on to a statement saying they oppose any legislation that would make it harder for people in america to vote, the biggest show of solidarity yet on this issue. we've seen a lot of companies speak out, sign on to statement, but we've not seen many take it a step further. one new initiative is taking it a step further, coined 90 to zero, the group of businesses, universities and non-profits have pledged to take specific actions that they believe will narrow this urgent gap. joining me to discuss, two of the people behind this initiative wes moore, ceo of the robinhood foundation dedicated to fighting poverty here in new
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york and across the country, and erica james, dean of the wharton school. we've seen companies make big statements when it comes to voting right, but those are just words. how is this initiative different? >> this initiative is different because we are focused not just on boards and apologizing saying we feel so badly that this is happening, but really focusing on what can we do? this is an action-oriented approach and we are finally bringing partnerships and communities of people together who have a unique perspective on how to address this racial wealth gap and bringing our collective insights together for the problem solving. >> so, wes, what are you going to do? this collection of people who are all running large organization, but all uniquely have our hands on the economic levers of this country, whether it's corporations and whether it is non-profits and foundations and universities, to address the fact that black americans have
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been systematically left behind in the u.s. economy for years and it's resulted in this 90% wealth gap where the inequality and structural racism actually is the racial wealth gap. by bringing all of these groups together and have a collective action plan that will be devised with the wharton school of business and dienerica james, if all of us can move in concert that we can have a larger set of impacts and we can all be bold, we can be reflective and we can be transparent in a way that if we move together and the organizations being done there is important, but our collective action will be tantamount to anything else that we could possibly get done. >> wes, let's get real. you and i have had conversations that include the words bold, innovative and collective. we've heard that before. what is this group literally going to do besides coming together. what is going to change things because we've talked about this, you and i many times before.
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>> absolutely, and so what it's going to do is really putting together and identifying what are the best practice mechanisms that corporations and organizations and agencies should actually be doing, and then saying, okay, we are going to now be transparent about the things that we will do that will meaningfully impact their work. for example, putting a real focus on the recruitment and the retainment process of black talent within your organization. putting an improvement on access to capital that your organization is then funneling out. who are your suppliers and your legal firms, your accounting firms and who are your auditors? and thinking about things from not just entry level, but up to the board ask are you putting a racialized lens on this and as you have individual movements and improvements of organizations then we can have a collective voice to start thinking about ideas of policies and structural changes across the board that will make a dent in the racial wealth gap that we
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see. >> i'm down with that. erica, who will hold them accountable for this? >> i'm glad you asked that question. i was thinking the same thing. the wharton school and other universities are contributing to this effort is by leveraging the research on individual managerial behaviors that affect what's happening within companies, looking at the firm policies, procedures and practices, looking at government practices and policies that are all influencing this problem and once we have that information, that research-driven set of ideas and insights, we're going to help translate that content in ways that people in organizations can actually take meaningful action in the areas that we've already demonstrated through the research are likely to have the greatest impact. so i think organizations and efforts like 90 to 0 are some of the units that can help hold people accountable because we are identifying what
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specifically needs to be measured to demonstrate success. >> the government is taking action, too. wes, you wrote an op ed about how crucial biden's infrastructure plan could be for your hometown, the city of baltimore whether it comes to closing the racial wealth gap. can you explain it could be. >> shroudly, if you look at what is included in the package that was the trillion dollar package that was pulled together, it doesn't just mean what will happen for the country at large. it's also the discretionary capitol that will go to individualized jurisdictions. so for example whether or not it is the 1.9 billion that is going to the state of maryland or the 670 million that is going just to, sorry, 3.9 to mar, this is capitol that our leaders to great not just the things right now, but also make real down mamts and long summer
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