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today. we begin tonight with a big development in the investigation into daunte wright's death at the hands of a different minnesota police officer. kim potter, the brooklyn center officer who shot and killed wright has been charged with second degree manslaughter. she caused the death of daunte wright by her negligence where she created an unreasonable risk and took a chance of causing death or great bodily harm to daunte wright. she faces up to ten years in prison and up to a $20,000 fine. the former brooklyn center police chief who has since resigned said he believed that potter meant to grab her taser, claiming it was an accident. washington county prosecutor said certain occupations carry an immense responsibility and none more so than a sworn police

officer. we will prosecute this case and intend to prove that officer potter abrogated her responsibility when she used her firearm rather her taser. >> this morning it was announced they're charging the policewoman that killed mr. wright with second degree manslaughter. manslaughter two is the least she should get. the least. possibly more. when you look at the fact that you're dealing with a 26-year veteran, if she didn't know in 26 years the difference in size and weight of a gun as opposed to a taser, how was she a veteran in policing? >> wright's brother told nbc,

i'm not too happy about it, but i'll take every win i can get at the moment. he said he expects the charges will fuel protests to demonstrate for the fourth night in a row. last night 79 people were arrested for charges including inciting a riot and unlawful assembly. officers used less lethal weapons including tear gas. 3,000 members of the minnesota national guard are deployed. brooklyn center extended its curfew through tonight. and brooklyn center's mayor michael elliot attended a vigil. with me is jelani cobb and paul butler. i want to start with you because you've been there on the ground. what the folks are saying and what you're seeing. we have photos that you took while you were on the ground. >> yeah. as you would imagine, it's a

tense situation and so that photo you're looking at right there is the first night. one of the reasons why i think it's important to look at the first night is that, you know -- you know this as well as i do, with these events, there tends to be an arc or a curve where they start out with a certain degree, kind of small cluster of people who are outraged, they come out to protest, maybe two or three days later, it grows and sometimes it takes a week for people to get fully cognizant of what's going on. that is a few hours after daunte wright was killed. and by my estimation there were 400 people out there that night. those demonstrations have only grown and the news that this was allegedly a mistake only inflamed -- i don't think that they should have released that statement because the idea that she made a mistake and shot him really inflamed the tensions ten times worse than they had been prior to that.

what you're seeing is in defiance of the curfew, people go out every night, there are two sets of demonstrations, one that happens at the site where he was killed, and that tends to be more stayed and somber. and then another set of demonstrations that happened across town at the police station which are antagonistic, intense, and everything that you've seen in the terms of the bottles and bricks being thrown, the tear gas and all thathings intentionally, right? the police officers aren't dumb. police who get to police chief don't get because they're stupid. he's already trying to write it down to she had a bad day. knowing that there's a possibility that she could be charged with a crime. that seems really prejudicele when what she's charged with --

let me read this, person who causes a death of another by the person's culpable intelligence where they create an unreasonable risk and takes chances of causing death or great bodily harm to another may be sentenced to imprisonment or not more than ten years. that is not an accident, right? what do you make of the fact that the police chief rushed out and made a claim to characterize this officer's actions before prosecutors had a chance to weigh in? >> thank goodness that man is no longer the police chief. he was not the model of transparency and accountability that policing in minnesota desperately needs. it's an important question whether it's true that this officer confused her firearm for a taser. in the bay area, a black man named oscar grant was shot by an officer who claimed that he made that mistake, he mistook his gun

for a taser. prosecutors did not believe that cop and they charged him with murder. so just because an officer says it was an accident, doesn't mean it's true. there needs to be a complete investigation, including looking at this officer's training record, her disciplinary record and her record on use of force. >> yeah, i will never stop talking about the walter scott case in which that officer claimed that walter scott fought him for his taser and in fact he executed walter scott. thank god somebody videotaped it. this is the acting city manager. he answered the question that i had yesterday, i think a lot of people had, people who were in that press conference asked whether or not the officer resigning was a -- sort of clever way to hold on to her pension. here's the city manager's answer? >> will the former officer get her pension and any retirement that she accrued?

>> the officer did resign and with that comes the obligation of -- for it to be entitled to all crew and benefit that is is due. >> this is why people want these police officer bill of rights and police unions to be looked at. the officers know she's the union president. she knew how she could hold on to her money. >> yeah, and, again, police unions are agents that stand in the way of change. and the fact that this officer was the president of the police union, she is now reaping those benefits. she has lots of compensations and due process that when other people are charged with crimes, especially homicide, they don't get. >> absolutely. 26 years. that's a lot of pension money that she's built up. we go through these killings by police of black folks, michael brown, the officer was acquitted, eric garner, tamir rice, walter scott, the officer

was convicted but only because the feds came for him. freddie gray, there were charges, but the prosecution was unsuccessful, stephon clark. we could go on and on, breonna taylor, remember that infamous no charge. the track record is so bad that i wonder how much cynicism we can bring to the fact that there were charges. that doesn't seem like it's comforting at least to me. when you talk to people on the ground there, are the charges themselves in any way comforting? >> well, do you know what people are talking about here, they're talking about mohammed noor who shot fatally justine, a blond white woman in minneapolis.

he was charged with third degree homicide and he was convicted. there was the anticipation that if you're making a parallel, there might be a third degree homicide charge here. when that charge came down, i raised an eyebrow. quite frankly i think that this is not going to do much to take the edge off of -- where people are. they've been talking about the only instance of this state -- exists in the state of minnesota, the only person who was convicted was the black cop. and so i don't think that this does much to diminish the tension that is are already building there. >> and just to get to that very point, paul, contrast the case of mohammed noor who was convicted of one of the same minor crimes -- the lower charges that chauvin is charged for. he was convicted of second-degree manslaughter, got 12 years in prison.

third degree murder and second degree manslaughter. the woman he killed was an australian tourist. and contrast that with jeronimo yanez who shot and killed fee -- philandro castille. >> the only murder conviction is for officer noor. the idea that black lives matter is not embedded in the law in the way that it should be. officer noor had the same defense as this officer. he said it was a mistake. the prosecutor didn't buy it in this case. for some reason, they're buying it in the case of this officer. it's just not acceptable. >> officer noor also expressed

remorse. he also expressed remorse, something we've never seen on the blank face of derek chauvin or the resignation letter of this officer. jelani cobb and paul butler thank you. everything except derek chauvin's knee caused george floyd's death, apparently. >> chauvin's lawyer suggest that exhaust from the tail pipe of the police cruiser contributed to his death. matt gaetz wing man is saying. president biden commits to ending america's longest war this year and shocking new information about the advanced warnings leading up to the capitol insurrection. "the reidout" continues after this. tion "theei rdout" continues after this you'll work with an advisor to help you build a flexible wealth plan. you'll have access to tax-smart investing strategies,

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the defense team for former minneapolis police officer derek chauvin continued presenting its case today, putting on the stand a former chief medical examiner for the state of maryland, in stark contrast from the medical witnesses we heard from the prosecution. the doctor testified that the cause of george floyd's death pretty much everything other than derek chauvin, even carbon monoxide poisoning, an exhaust pipe is now on trial. his entire testimony frankly imploded once the prosecutor picked it apart starting with debunking the theory that floyd died in part to vehicle fumes. >> do you know if in fact the car was on or not? you didn't see any information, data from anybody who says i either turned the car on or i'm

the one who turned it off. you didn't see either one, did you? >> correct. >> fouler who had ruled out asphyxia then admitted to blackwell that bruises are rarely even a thing with this type of death. >> do you agree, dr. fouler, that the majority of cases where somebody dies of asphyxia are very subtle and no manifestations are visible at all? >> that is correct, depending on the circumstances. >> the prosecutors nullified the studies fouler had cited showing that restraint in a prone position does not cause difficulty breathing. >> is it true, dr. fouler, that none of the prone restraint studies that you referred to actually studied subjects who

had someone's knee on their neck in the prone position? is that true? >> that is true. >> none of the studies went for as long as 9 minutes and 29 seconds, is that true? >> that is true. >> that, my friends, that is how you tear down a defense witness, by getting him to agree with the prosecution. joining me now is phillip atiba goff and mary moriarty, former chief public defender of hennepin county, minnesota. it was pretty much a clinic that the prosecutor put on in dismantling this witness. what did you make of that exchange today? >> it was a really effective cross-examination, i thought at the beginning, okay, that seems implausible i'm glad that he's taking that position.

he was rendering opinions on cardiology, pulmonology, toxicology and mr. blackwell got him to admit that he doesn't have expertise in any of those areas. if you recall, the state has called a cardiologist, a pulmoologist and toxologist and got him to admit he would defer to the opinions of a pulmonologist a number of times. it was an effective cross-examination. >> i said one of the things that you want to do is know who you're talking about. this gentlemen who -- he embarrassed himself today. he's a former maryland official. he was here in maryland. he cleared -- he is somebody who had cleared police in a previous police killing. he cleared police in the death of a man called anton black. he died after three maryland

police officers were on top of his body for nearly six minutes. they continued pressing down on him for many minutes after he was handcuffed. fouler's autopsy ruled the death an accident and said there were no signs that the police did anything wrong. so he's basically mostly an expert in saying police did nothing wrong. your thoughts on that choice of somebody to testify for the defense, phillip? >> well, what we saw all of last week was everybody and anybody who could line up and get a spot for the minneapolis police department saying, yeah, that was wrong. it's out of policy. there's no best practices that says it's okay. kneeling on somebody's trachea until they die is something we don't like to do. so i'm frankly impress that had the defense was able to get anybody with any kind of degree to come forward and say maybe there was something else. i want to be clear. if they left him up on the stand, he might well have said, there's no evidence that aliens

didn't kill him. >> right. >> so -- yeah. this is a person who no longer has that position, no longer requires -- and that's what you're going to need to contradict everything we saw. so you're going to need a fabulous to come in and provide anything like a shred of a credible story in the other direction. if you're even remotely prepared, as the prosecution was in this case, that's going to fall apart almost instantly. you got to be glad about that and also this case on one trial, right, on one officer, it's so far short of what we're seeing protestors talk about in the streets of minneapolis today. >> that's a very good point. i think that people are thinking about -- they're trying to process all of these cases at once, they're trying to process the fact that this other officer is being charged.

but you are seeing -- in minnesota, we've had three officers charged in deaths of civilians. the only one convicted as was noted in the last block is the black guy who killed the white lady. but it does feel like there is more momentum toward prosecutors at least trying, right? is that what it's going to take? we've seen other prosecutors saying we need to attempt a prosecution. is that in your view progress? >> i mean, i'm less embarrassed by the prosecution in this case. it's been incredibly thorough. that's great. but it's not just the prosecution coming forward and doing their job effectively and professionally. it's the profession saying, please don't pin this on us. part of what's happening, if there's a not guilty, god help us all. and i think everybody in law enforcement understands, there's no way to do the job if this is somehow a part of what's legal.

everybody is coming together and saying, let's make this the one random error that doesn't indict the entire profession. you're seeing some momentum in that way. i don't think that is going to happen in the daunte wright case and i don't think that makes us all safer or makes black people feel like, now it's good with us and the cops. >> right. and mary moriarty, the other group of people who have had a credibility issues are prosecutors. we've seen democratic prosecutors refuse to prosecute in cases like the mike brown case and cases like breonna taylor. prosecutors are under the spotlight too because we have this sense that white citizens are treated as citizens and black citizens are treated as subjects, and they police on them but not protect. coming from the point of view of the partners of the police, what do we need to do to get off of this dime? this is a not a place that is sustainable. >> remember that this case was taken away by the county

prosecutor and given to the attorney general partly because of that very issue. i see potential for tremendous change here. our community -- this didn't start with george floyd, obviously. there's a history with the minneapolis police department, that people particularly in our black community have been trying to bring to the attention of police, policy officials, and it's been ignored for years and years and years. george floyd was like our ferguson moment. that was just kind of the eruption of all of this trauma, this tension, this anguish over what had been happening to people in our black community for many, many years. and i don't think any of us wanted to go -- well, we're not going to let it go back to the way it was. it's not going to go back to normal. there's tremendous pressure and actually willingness on a lot of our policymakers' part to make changes, to see that this -- it obviously did happen again right in the middle of this trial.

but there's tremendous momentum here to try to change this. i'll also say to phillip's point about the mpd getting on the stand and saying this isn't who we are and what we do, people in the community have noticed that and, of course, people in the black community know -- former public defender, i know, i see body cam where police treat people like this all the time. it's what they do. >> that's the problem. they're treating black people as subjects and not as citizens and that is the problem. phillip atiba goff, mary moriarty, thank you very much. we're learning more about the sex crimes investigation involving republican congressman matt gaetz, including how federal agents seized his phone this winter. we'll bring you the latest next. stay with us.

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tell the "new york times" that greenberg has been providing investigators with information since last year about an array of topics, including mr. gaetz' activities. he disclosed that they had encounters with women who were given cash or gifts in exchange for sex. we know that those kinds of payments are a focal point for investigators who are scrutinizing gaetz for alleged sex trafficking, which includes the same underage girl at the center of the greenberg indictment. and matt gaetz's trip is a part of that probe, even though greenberg did not join them. according to three sources, the former minor was also among those on that trip to the bahamas. to be clear, one of the women from the group tells "politico" that everyone on the trip was over the age of 18 at that time. federal agents executed a search warrant and seized gaetz' phone

this past winter, according to three people who were told of the matter by gaetz who changed his phone number in late december. it suggests that gaetz was likely aware that he was under scrutiny when he sought a pardon from the trump white house in the closing weeks of the last administration. gaetz denies any wrongdoing and said he's never paid for context. joining me now, glenn kirschner. let's go to the phone situation. once prosecutors have a phone, are you required to unlock it, what might they be able to get out of this phone in your view? >> pretty much everything, joy. and they -- let me just explain how dramatic it is that we have now learned that a sitting member of congress had his phone seized and searched by the fbi. people may not know, but when the fbi wants a search warrant, what they have to do is sit down, put all of the evidence of the investigation into a sworn affidavit, bring that affidavit to a federal prosecutor, and

i've done this hundreds of times, i have to review it and i have to reach the conclusion that there's probable cause of crime in that phone. and i have to certify my name to it certifying that i agree with the investigator. that fbi agent walks into a federal judge's chambers with an application for a search warrant for a sitting member of congress's cell phone. probable cause is probable cause. it's not supposed to matter who you're investigating, but can i tell you the reality inside the department of justice is an application for a search warrant, for a sitting congressman's cell phone, will have been vetted up and down the chain over and over again. and even though the law regarding probable cause doesn't change, i would bet you they had probable cause plus, plus, plus, plus if they were walking into a federal judge's chambers seeking to seize and search the cell phone of a sitting member of

congress. >> and particularly we're talking about this being last year when it was bill barr at the charge of the justice department where he was in the business of protecting trump's friends and allies. gaetz was the gilligan to trump's skipper. the fact that they got that warrant, to your point, what does it tell you, a, about what gaetz may have known about his criminal exposure when he allegedly asked for that pardon. trump has said he never asked him personally. all he's said is that. what does that say to you? >> look, he knew he was in all kinds of trouble when he reached out to the white house seeking a pardon. you don't ask for a pardon unless you know you've done wrong. and if bill barr isn't on your side, the man who was virtually donald trump's criminal defense attorney and helped donald trump and his allies stay out of all kinds of trouble, i mean, if bill barr said we got to investigate this gaetz guy

because that's a bridge too far, you know there must be some real fire where there's that smoke. >> so the question for gaetz, because, obviously, greenberg has to get somebody bigger than him. at least per the reporting, the people who were on that bahamas trip, five women, you had gaetz, a hand surgeon and gop fund raiser to ron desantis who gaetz wanted to turn into the attorney general of florida. there's a former state legislature and former appointed official in the desantis administration. if you're ron desantis, does this feel like it's creeping closer to you because these are your friends, these are your allies. >> yeah, just as greenberg's lawyer said about matt gaetz when he left the courthouse the other day, he said, you know what, if i were matt gaetz, i don't think i would be all that comfortable right about now.

you have to believe that desantis -- these are his boys, his guys. we've seen the pictures, we've heard the stories. you have to believe that ron desantis, if he has done anything wrong, feels like things are creeping closer and closer to him. >> let's talk about this for a moment. as the investigation intensified, he resigned as the secretary noting he had contracted covid but he confided that he believes he is the subject of the investigation. it seems to me that he doesn't seem big enough for gaetz to help himself out by giving him out. according to the cnn reporting here, the women who were at -- they talked to some of the women who were at these parties. this one apparently in orlando. it says here the first thing that some of the women were asked to do was to put away their cell phones, according to two woman who were in attendance, the men inside, a who's who of local republican

officials that included gaetz, did not want the nights activities documented. they shared drugs like cocaine and ecstasy, some had sex. one of the women said she received money for payment after the parties but she would not say who she slept with. we don't know who political figures. do you think they're getting calls from the fbi at this point? >> yeah, i think -- and what we have to keep in mind, joy, when we have sex trafficking investigations, whether it involves underage girls or young women 18 and older, so often these women or these young girls are both victims and in a sense are perpetrator because they're violating any number of federal laws with respect to the conduct that they're engaging in, drug use, prostitution, among the potential crimes. at their core, they're victims.

they're being victimized by these men, even if they happen to be violating federal statutes in the process. as prosecutors, we approach these young ladies as victims recognizing we may often -- we also have to deal with their criminal exposure by granting them immunity for any laws they may have violated because we need to make sure we get the bigger fish, the more egregious perpetrators and those are the men who are trafficking and using these girls. >> drip, drip, drip. it just gets weirder and weirder every day. up next, president biden is bringing america's longest war to a somber close. what does this mean for our national security? former cia director john brennan and jeh johnson will be here to tell us what they think. stay with us.

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>> look at them. >> nearly 2400 americans have died in afghanistan and more than 20,000 have been wounded in action. nato allies in coordination with the white house announced their own eminent withdrawals from afghanistan. president biden called former presidents bush and obama to inform them of his decision. president obama issued a statement commending the decision saying it was time to turn the page. republican voters under trump jettisoned their belief in foreign intervention for an american first doctrine. that didn't stop some washington republicans from slamming biden's announcement. >> unfortunately this mistake in afghanistan is one of several instances of this new administration's surrendering leverage without making america, our allies or our interests more secure. >> we know that this kind of a pull back is reckless, it's

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♪♪ i'm now the fourth united states president to preside over american troop presence in afghanistan. two afghanistan, two republicans, two democrats. i will not pass this responsibility on to a fifth. >> as he noted, president biden is indeed the fourth commander in chief to preside over the war in afghanistan and third to commit to its end. >> to the american people, i know many of you have grown weary of this conflict. as you're well aware, i do not support idea of endless war. >> we've had tremendous success in afghanistan in killing of terrorists, but it's time after all these years to go and bring our people back home. we want to bring our people back home. and again, it's been -- it's

been a long journey in afghanistan in particular. >> joining me now, former cia director john brennan and former director of homeland security. one of the few nonterrible positions that donald trump had, endless wars have to end, can't leave troops overseas pretending their going to rebuild them into little americas. we don't even have a fully functioning democracy, to make believe we can make them into us. doesn't make sense. your reaction to the 20-year war coming to end? >> well, joy, joe biden has made no secret he believes it's time to bring the troops home. he was advocate of that in obama administration as well. as president with wide array of threats and challenges on his plate, he wants to do that. made the decision after i understand a long and lengthy

debate among the national security agencies to make the decision to bring them home. joe biden understands there are no attractive options in afghanistan, there are risks in terms of full withdrawal of u.s. forces. hopefully we're going to be able to offset diminishment of intelligence and counterterrorism activities with regional resources. at the same time i fear that some of joe biden's toughest decisions on afghanistan are yet to come. what happens when the taliban advances military momentum toward kabul, what happens with psychological impact of the security and military forces of the afghan government? might it collapse? i'm sure they have plans for it. we're going to main embassy with personnel and others.

this is something they're going to keep a close focus on despite they've made the decision to remove the troops. >> you know president biden far better than i do. he did run on the idea of opposition to iraq war made him rise in politics, and idea that afghanistan could go on forever. can't stay anywhere forever especially with home security threats of white nationalism threatening the capital and our own former president inciting people and pushing them like bin laden did, inspiring people to feel this way. do you feel we have to turn our focus internal? >> short answer is yes. i was very pleased to see in the intelligence assessment released by intelligence community that we are focused on

nontraditional, unconventional threats as well as traditional threats from russia, china, north korea and iran. in my judgment, long-term principle threat to national security is climate change. in short-term, covid-19. in midterm, what we saw vividly on january 6th. there's a study out from university of chicago by professor robert peyton does a study of the demographics of those who launched the attack on january 6th, frightening. tend to be college educated from blue states and red, afraid of displacement, baseless fear over increasing diversity of our nation, and what the study points out that was the tip of the iceberg. and that iceberg did not evaporate on january 20th. in my judgment that's principle threat to our very democracy and

represents a national security threat. on afghanistan, i agree with john, no good options after 20 years. in perfect world would have structured a deal to include the afghan government but it was clear a decade ago that taliban attitude was you americans may have the watches but we have the time, we're going to wait you out. >> they did it with the soviet union, a dozen years gone. intractable issue. let you listen to avril haines, director of national intelligence on the domestic threat we're facing. >> domestically, lone actors and small cells pose a greater immediate threat. see the threat manifest in individuals inspired by al qaeda and isis, and those who commit terrorist acts for ideological goals such as racial bias and

antigovernmental sentiment. >> right-wing extremists involved in 257 attacks and far left incidents accounted for 66 incidents. far right menace feels like of a piece what we used to think of terrorism most fearful for us, feels far more prescent or urgent to me. >> it's insidious, in our midst already. white supremacists, neo-nazis and others, this growth is worrisome. that's challenges for law enforcement, intelligence and homeland security professionals. they have to deal with domestic terrorists and those who are prone to conducting acts of violence but also should be concerned about terrorist

threats from abroad, including from south asia. don't disagree with you, but united states has responsibilities at home and abroad, takes appropriate steps to protect citizenry from wherever the threats come from. >> ask you both this, mr. brennan, how long do we have to say overseas policing the world? i think a lot of people have that gut question. the united states cannot police the world, can't make every country perfect. how long are we expected to stay overseas attempting to police other societies? >> i wouldn't say we should be policing any societies but we have 100,000 troops still in south korea, japan and germany for many, many years. as president biden said many times it's power of our example that we have influence on the global stage.

united states has unique responsibilities as global leader of the free and western world and shouldn't abandon those responsibilities, should do it smartly, judiciously and appropriately. >> amen to that. jay johnson, when you look at reports about the 1/6 attack, they're more and more troubling. feel like we're not in moral standing we used to be in terms of telling the world we care about democracy and can protect it abroad when we've got people, capitol police ignoring intelligence and just the deficiencies. how much of a hole does biden have to dig us out of morally around the world? >> a famous american said once god did not appoint you to be policeman of the whole world,

martin luther king in 1957. there's a larger point i know john agrees with. four years the leaders of the intelligence community had to look over their shoulder afraid their boss -- they were going to say something their boss didn't like. it was refreshing to see our leaders there with avril haines leading, telling the truth about the threats our nation faces. we know full well they did that and were shooting straight without any notion of any repercussion from the white house. that's a big picture that should not be lost today. >> it's a big picture and they mentioned china and north korea, iran and russia. and we need to get back to thinking about what the real threats are. and in my opinion i think it's good they're ending war there but everyone can make their judgment. john and jay, thank you very much. before we go, big step

forward for d.c. statehood, house oversight committee approved legislation, sending to full house, expected to approve it. previously passed the bill last year but senate majority at the time, mcconnell, refused to take it up. that's tonight's "the reid out." "all in" with chris hayes starts now. the capitol police knew a violent mob was coming january 6th and chose not to act. america's selective use of the full force of the state. new manslaughter charges and arrest of the police officer who shot daunte wright, attorney joins me live. new revelations and fresh trouble for matt gaetz, feds have seized his cell phone. announcement 20 years