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if it's friday, another mass shooting in america. this time a gunman killed eight people at a fedex facility in indianapolis. authorities are searching for a motive as they try to identify both the victims and the shooter. new covid concerns as some states see dramatic increases in cases, hospitalizations and, yes, deaths. news today about when officials plan to make a decision on the future of johnson & johnson's vaccine. later, president biden holds his first face to face meeting with a world leader. the same week he announces he is pulling weeks from afghanistan, new sanctions on russia and his administration declaring china the greatest risk to the united states. ♪♪ welcome to "meet the press
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daily." i'm chuck todd. we begin with breaking news in indianapolis, another mass shooting. it happened at a fedex facility late last night. eight people were killed, five injured. the gunman took his own life before officers arrived. they are working to identify the gunman. the fbi is assisting local officials in that part of the investigation. president biden is having to order flags to be flown as half staff. i believe the fifth time in eight weeks he has had to do this. he addressed the shooting a short time ago. yes, there is a wash, rinse, repeat to this. will anything be done? the indianapolis mayor became the latest mayor, of course,
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that has been forced to confront a mass shooting in their own city. >> although we will learn more about this case in the coming days and in the coming weeks, no piece of information will restore the lives that were taken. or the peace that was shattered. nothing we learn can heal the wounds of those who escaped with their lives but who will now bear the scars and endure the memories of this horrific crime. >> my colleague antonia hylton joins me from indianapolis. antonia, it's been about eight hours since we have all learned of this shooting. what's surprising is how little new information it seems authorities have between what was reported at 7:00 this morning and what we know right
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now. >> reporter: that's exactly right, chuck. that's what struck me most coming out of the press conference earlier today. the scene here at the warehouse, the fedex warehouse behind me, it remains very chaotic. in part because we still do not have a publicly identified name of the shooter. we do not know the story, his motivation for coming to the warehouse that night. then we are waiting for the stories and the background on the victims here. what we have been told from officials is that it's painstaking work to get that out. they are still working to identify people. they need to reach out to families, give the families resources and information. that's going to take a while here. to give you a sense of the feel here, just a little while ago, we met a former employee of the fedex warehouse right here on this field. he drove here himself and stood out here in front of his former workplace. he called and texted former colleagues and friends trying to find out if they were safe, if they were alive. he wasn't getting any response.
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was just standing here hoping somebody would come by and tell him what was going on. that gives you a sense of the chaos. listen to what the deputy police chief described earlier. >> what we did find preliminary from the interviews conducted was that this suspect came to the facility, and when he came there, he got out of his car and pretty quickly started some random shooting outside the facility. there was no confrontation with anyone that was there. there was no disturbance. there was no argument. he just appeared to randomly start shooting, and that began in the parking lot, and then he did go into the building, into the facility for a brief period of time. before he took his own life. >> reporter: chuck, what you hear him describe right there transpired in a matter of about one to two minutes. officials say that this is the third mass casualty event in
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indianapolis just this year. check? >> this is -- sadly, there's always an anniversary. today is the anniversary of the virginia tech massacre seven years ago. i guess -- is there confusion about who the gunman is or are they not ready to release the name? they indicated they searched the home. but at the same time, they are acting as if they are not 100% sure if they have the right person. is there any clarity to this? >> reporter: there is a gap in information there. they have acknowledged that there's a suspect whose home they have searched. they are not comfortable coming forward and publically releasing the name yet right now. among the employees, what reporters have heard are rumors this person may have known people here. none of that back story, none of the motivation has been made public or clear to those of us on the ground trying to get answers here.
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we are hoping that imminently some more details will come out. >> antonia hylton on the ground in indianapolis. tough stories to cover. sorry you have to do it, but thank you. turning to the coronavirus pandemic and the ongoing and troubling rise in cases and hospitalizations. nationally, our daily average of new cases is up by more than 14% since last month. we are averaging more than 71,000 new cases a day over the last two weeks. nearly half the country is experiencing daily cases increasing. we don't have a restriction going on these days. michigan is the epicenter in this country. its cases increasing by more than 200% over a one-month period. deaths in michigan are up 200% in the last month. rhode island, pennsylvania, minnesota, delaware getting hit hard. they round out the top five
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states with the sharpest increases. today, the biden administration announced a $1.7 billion funding effort to help monitor and track the mutated variants of the virus, which are in part driving the nationwide increases. at this morning's briefing, officials say they are planning for the possibility fully vaccinated people may need more shots after the ceos of pfizer and moderna said this. >> there will be likely a need for a third dose somewhere between 6 and 12 months and then annual vaccination. >> we believe we will need boosting. get a flu vaccine in the clinic this year and combine flu vaccine to covid vaccine so you get one boost at your local cvs store. >> the pace of daily
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vaccinations is down slightly on the heels of the johnson & johnson pause. about 3.3 million vaccines are being administered every day in this country. officials announced that a cdc advisory panel will meet next friday to perhaps make a recommendation on the future of johnson & johnson's vaccine. sadly, you have to say perhaps. i think there was thought the last time they met they would have said something. joining me now ellison barber in michigan where the johnson & johnson has been a major blow to rural vaccination efforts and also with us is vaccine expert dr. peter otez. ellison, tell me the story of where you are there in michigan. just how much the johnson & johnson pause impacts where you are. >> reporter: you can see behind me that vaccine clinics are still taking place in towns, in
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more populated cities and rural parts of michigan. look at this map to give you a sense of where we are. getting to a vaccination clinic like this is simply not an option for everyone. we are here. the dots on here, these represent offices of some sort within mid michigan health system. the lack of dots gives you a sense how rural this area is. what they realized within this medical center is they have people who were vulnerable, isolated and probably could not get into one of the area tosz -- areas to get a vaccine. when johnson & johnson available and it was a single dose, they realized they could pretty easily, comparatively easily take that vaccine directly to the most vulnerable patients in rural, isolated communities. they just take what looks like a beer cooler, put johnson & johnson vaccine in it and then
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they take a duffel bag like this that is basically a vaccination clinic to go. they have everything they need in here to give people shots inside of their homes. they started doing this. they vaccinated about 80 people who could not come to get vaccinated elsewhere. because of the pause, they have had to cancel 50 appointments -- or 30, rather, that were set for monday. one doctor said this was pretty logistically challenging with one dose. with two doses, he says, it's nearly impossible. >> for us, it's reaching that population of people who may not have access to a vaccine. how do we get that to them in these rural communities? it could be 15, 20, 30 miles to a vaccine center. this is not 15, 20 miles on a freeway. this is potentially two-track roads, dirt roads, poorly traveled. there's a distance to travel
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just to access that really becomes a barrier. >> reporter: we met two brothers vaccinated through this program three weeks ago. they don't have a car. they get groceries, meals delivered through wheels on wheels. one said if they had a car they couldn't afford the gas to make the commute to a doctor's office. this really was the only way for them to get a vaccine. when we look at big picture vaccination efforts, has this derailed michigan's efforts? no, not necessarily. the pause though does matter when you are talking about getting as many people vaccinated as possible in a pandemic. 50, 100 people here or there that want to get vaccinated, this was their only option. doctors here are hoping that this pause lifts sooner rather than later. chuck? >> i'm sure they are. ellison in michigan. thank you. let's get to the question with dr. otez.
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let's start with the cdc panel declined to make a recommendation this week. they will meet a week from today. based on what you know about the side effects with both of these -- the johnson & johnson and astrazeneca vaccine, what do you expect out of this recommendation hearing? should they wait another week? >> chuck, i think the best outcome that we could hope for is if the fda and cdc talking to the european regulators, the british regulatory authority, because both the johnson & johnson vaccine and the astrazeneca vaccine are both the same. both seem to be producing in rare instances this cerebral thrombosis, which is a severe and life-threatening condition. we have seen deaths. if there could be a meeting of the minds on both sides of the
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atlantic ocean to figure out, is there a specific population that's at particular risk, let's say, for instance, premenopausal women and maybe you can surgically fine tune it to say who are on birth control or smokers or some aspect and say, we can vaccinate everybody else, that would be the best outcome. i think that's the reason for the delay is trying to understand fully what the true incidents is. it's between 1 and 100,000 or 200,000. really fully understanding as best they can, recognizing that every day they delay, it does enable the anti-vaccine movement. they are under pressure. i think they are trying to surgically identify that very specific population.
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>> let's take the 1 in 250,000, not the 1 in a million. let's take the 1 in a 250,000 risk assessment. compare that to other vaccines that are commonly used today. >> for instance, a severe reaction for the flu vaccine, that's 1 in a million. the cerebral thrombosis is worse than that. you can get an treated with that. the other way is it may be 1 in 10,000 with the at-risk group but 1 in several million with the group that's not at risk. that's what they are trying to identify.
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>> doctor, you have been, i think, among the best people we have had on explaining the differences between the mrna viruses and the two vaccines astrazeneca and johnson & johnson. does this finding now -- there's ones that use the more traditional method of making vaccines. is this going to have an impact how we make vaccines going forward? in this sense, we won't continue to pursue that kind of vaccine? >> well, again, i think if we can fine tune and learn more about it, i would not -- i think it has promise. remember, the way operation warp speed worked, introduced a lot of risk into the system. it gave us great vaccines like pfizer, which i took and i'm
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grateful for, and the moderna vaccine. that's a brand-new technology in terms of scaling and looking at large populations. the risk could have been reduced by balancing that portfolio with old-school vaccines that we have experience with. for instance, it's being scaled to a billion doses in india, it's 40 years old. it's not cool or innovative. but it seems to work. we know the safety profile for 40 years. we never could get the u.s. government to back that kind of vaccine. that might be the lesson to balance out the portfolio more. >> the issue of the boosters -- here is my question on the booster shots, third shot for pfizer as we heard and looks like for moderna and moderna's ceo hoping they could combine it with a flu shot. we get all at the same time.
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i assume there will be some slight modifications to deal with variants. how much -- when you make these modifications, at what point do you have to put the vaccine back out for trial if you tweak it too much? >> i think it's going to be close enough so that the regulators, fda will not require redoing the clinical trials. we can do bridging studies. we are getting our arms around some rough correlation of protection. if you look at the ratio of the virus neutralizing antibody and the vaccination in the numerator, we know you get high profiles of efficacy. they may look for that in addition to safety. it's really important for the american people not to feel overwhelmed. it's actually not so complicated. here is the situation.
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the dominant variant right now will be that way for the foreseeable future. all of the vaccines that we have work just as well against that as the original. that's good news. later on, we may have to deal with the south african and brazil variant. the vaccines don't work as well. the reason for the booster later on this year or next year is it will elevate virus antibodies, give you more protection and slightly fine-tuned to cover those variants. i don't think we will have to vaccinate every year. >> all right, doctor, like i said, i don't think there's anybody that explains these distinctions between the vaccines better than you do. much appreciated. coming up, a first for president biden. a face to face with a world leader at the white house in the midst of the biggest week yet for this administration's foreign policy.
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welcome back. at the white house right now, president biden is about to host the first foreign leader face to face since he became president. it's the japanese prime minister. it caps a big public week when it comes to president biden laying out his foreign policy. the u.s. will pull all troops out of afghanistan no later than september 11th, which is the 20th anniversary of the attacks. yesterday, the white house announced a new round of sanctions against russia over cyberattacks and disinformation efforts. they expelled ten individuals from the russian embassy. moscow expelled approximately the same number of u.s. diplomats from russia today. then there's china, which the
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administration's top intelligence officials deemed the single greatest risk to the united states. take a listen. >> i think china poses the single biggest geopolitical test for the united states as far out into the 21st century as i can see. >> china is a competitor challenging the united states in multiple areas while pushing to revise global norms in ways that favor the authoritarian chinese system. >> i don't think there's any country that presents a more severe threat to our innovation, our economic security and other democratic ideas. >> joining me now is richard haas, the president of the council on foreign relations. you see the phrase thrown around, cold war, when it comes to china. it does feel like this week the biden administration, whether they declared that the cold war is on or sort of affirmed that they share the same view as the previous administration, one thing is clear, it's china versus america right now
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globally. >> it is up to a point. the challenge is, how do we respond to china and push back where we must in the south china sea or taiwan or human rights? we keep off the possibility of working with china on north korea or in afghanistan. china borders afghanistan. it's what makes this relationship so complicated on top of it all is the economic dimension. we trade with one another. we invest in one another. again, cold war doesn't quite capture the complexity of this relationship. >> we had no real economic ties to the soviet union. it was a different -- in that respect, there was almost something like a physical curtain. let me ask you about what your take is on the biden administration's tougher talk on taiwan in particular. because this ties into the visit
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today by the japanese prime minister. japan seems to be nervous about getting as tough on china on a couple of the issues than the united states is. explain that dance. >> it's two things. japan historically, in the last 40, 50 years is careful and cautious in public. in part, this reflects japanese politics which don't create that much space for a robust foreign and defense policy. privately, japan is quite robust when it comes to dealing with china. it has its own issues with china over disputed islands in the pacific. the united states and china have been finessing taiwan for more than four decades. what we see under the current chinese leadership is impatience. we see military incursions near and over taiwan airspace and sea space. can we work this out?
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what more does the united states need to do to persuade china it should not overreach? it should not try to accelerate its timetable for what it describes as peaceful or simply refine indication. >> are you confident, richard, that the -- america is making promises to taiwan it can keep or it plans to keep? like i said, i had second blinken on last sunday. i was surprised how tough his rhetoric was. >> what we need to do is not just talk the talk, we have to narrow the gap between our capabilities and our commitment. china has the advantage of proximity. they have been building up militarily at a fast clip. what we need to do is strength taiwan, its capacity for self-defense. we do have to work more closely with japan and others to pose a credible deterrent to china. >> i want to play something that i thought got underreported from
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president biden's afghanistan speech. listen to it. i want to ask you about it on the other side. >> we inherited, that commitment. perhaps not what i would have negotiated myself. but it was an agreement made by the united states government. that means something. in keeping with that agreement and with our national interests, the united states will begin our final withdrawal -- begin it on may 1 of this year. >> it was an agreement made by the united states government and that means something. we know how the obama/biden administration feels about agreements they made that president trump pulled out of. those remarks, was that intended for iran, china and russia? maybe even north korea who sit there and think, maybe we will wait out an administration given how unstable america's positions were in various things just in
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the last four years? >> it's a complicated question. the president is right. i think it was a deeply, deeply flawed agreement with the taliban. it didn't include the afghan government. it didn't require the taliban to disarm. it did not require a cease-fire. this is a president who believes in america's word. there's got to be some degree of continuity and predictability. it gave him a bit of cover. he clearly chose to get out and following through on this agreement gave him a degree of cover for doing something that's i think extraordinarily risky. >> right. i guess i'm curious about, does what he said there -- do you get a sense that the irans and chinas and north koreas and -- they still like this idea that maybe they can play the two parties off each other in our country. >> well, not really. in the case of iran or north korea, they don't want to enter into an agreement with one
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administration to find out the next crowd comes in and they say, it's no longer operative. they prefer a degree of predictability based upon a policy that they would welcome. >> rich haas, there's about 17 more questions i had for you. i am out of time for now. it was quite the week. always good to have your expertise. thank you, sir. >> thank you, chuck. coming up, as the military tries to confront extremism in the ranks, we are looking at what some are saying in secret facebook groups. 100 days since the attack on the capitol. look at this moving project from frank thorpe. he took photographs of people who experienced the attack and he spoke to them. you can see and hear their stories on nbcnews.com.
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siege on the capitol, federal prosecutors have secured their first guilty plea. john shaffer of indiana, a member of the group the oath keepers, pled guilty to unlawfully entering congress and obstructing an official proceeding. he is one of more than 300 charged for their actions, including over two dozen current and former members of the united states military. in fact, that brings us to carol lee who investigated how extremism has grown among service members. it has been brewing in private facebook groups. take a look. >> reporter: an nbc news review of private facebook groups for special forces, visible only to vetted members, shows some share disturbing content. misinformation about a stolen 2020 election. racist and disparaging comments about america's political leadership. even qanon conspiracy theories. does that surprise you? >> no. i'm afraid that doesn't surprise me at all.
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that is what my own facebook feed looks like on a day-to-day basis and it has for five or more years at this point. >> reporter: the two groups have more than 5,000 members with some members belonging to both. u.s. special operations command has about 70,000 current personnel. there are thousands more retired special forces. heidi has been tracking extremism in the military for two decades. why are these secret facebook groups that we found with special forces talking about qanon and racism, why is that so valuable to someone like you who studies this? >> it's an incredible find, first of all, because it's very difficult to get into secret facebook groups. also, these are the exact troops who we do not want involved with things like qanon, that the fbi said is a violent-induing conspiracy theory. >> reporter: the siege on the capitol saw more than two dozen active duty military members and
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veterans investigated. lloyd austin announced new measures. training outgoing service members on ways extremist groups might target them. how big of a threat is this? >> that's difficult to ascertain. i don't want to overexaggerate this. i don't think the average special forces member or veteran is a conspiracy theorist, per se. but i don't want to downplay this. >> i guess, is this more of a problem in former members of the military or is this something they can't figure out how to deal with among active duty and it only shows up once they leave? >> it's a little bit of both, chuck. there's far more former members of the military who are, a,
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willing to speak out, even in these private facebook groups. former. there's former risk to speak out if you are an active duty. what the military doesn't have its arms around is the scope of the problem with veterans but also within the current active duty force itself. that's something that they are trying to figure out. they have been slow to figure this out and to try to do it and they don't have a good sense of how -- what the numbers are. >> it does seem as if members of the military are targeted by these groups. the language that some groups use seems to try to appeal to
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some of these folks. is the military just not gotten into that part of it? are they -- are they afraid of this? they are afraid to touch it? >> one of the things that defense secretary announced last week, he created this working group to look at different measures that they will try to implement to get -- to deal with this problem. one of them to your point about veterans is they are trying -- they are trying to implement a process where they educate outgoing members of theerans ab extremist groups target them. because they do. when i spoke with gary reed of the pentagon, he was saying, look, we have trained these guys, they still have ties to us, they have access to our bases in some instances. it's our responsibility to make sure that we understand and they understand how these groups might come after and target them because of their skills.
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poison pills here in washington for that reason, it has nothing to do with the bill but make it hard for somebody to vote for it. with me now is congresswoman judy chu. congresswoman, before i get -- i'm curious of your reaction to the reporting of carol lee and this issue of extremism within the military ranks and how to deal with it. what would you like to see the pentagon do? they have done some things now. but it does look like they're in more of, let's get more information. do you think they're doing enough? >> i am anxiously awaiting secretary austin's review of extremism in the ranks. i tell you, those facebook posts that i saw in carol lee's report were chilling and disturbing. i mean, these are the forces that are supposed to be dealing with the most sensitive matters of national security.
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and yet, 5,000 of these 70,000 members appear to be making the most extreme racist and intolerant comments that are reminiscent of the january 6th trump insurrectionists. as somebody who was there, i still have ptsd from being at the capitol on that day. i know what the consequences are if you don't deal with this. the military has been very, very slow to address this. that's why we need secretary austin. let me just say, i know the military is low to deal with extremism, because my own nephew was serving in the marines in afghanistan when he died due to military hazing in 2011. it took me seven years to just get an independent report done on this. it was only after that report was conducted by an outside
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entity the government accountability office, that any action took place. >> you used the phrase military hazing. do you think after everything you have learned, was it military hazing or was your nephew targeted due to his ethnicity? >> i think it had to do with an overall level of extremism and intolerance in the military and the lack of consequences for it. my nephew was beaten, punched and kicked and smothered for 3 1/2 hours. was there any consequence to that? no. because there is this kind of attitude in the military that any kind of corrupt behavior that anyone administers to the other is okay. this must be dealt with. there must be consequences.
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>> yeah. let me move to the hate crime legislation moving through the senate. if it's passed in its current form, explain what it will do. >> it will have somebody in the department of justice designated to see through the prosecutions of hate crimes throughout the nation. it will also give guidance as to the designation of hate crimes and it will also provide resources so that there can be better tracking of such hate crimes. >> what's your sense of how this is moving in the senate? i will say this. for whatever the motivation was, clearly republicans did not want to be seen as filibustering this bill. that was step one. are you confident that they want -- that there isn't going to be an amendment that ends up, as i describe, what we refer to
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in washington as a poison pill amendment? >> yes, i am concerned about that. actually, there is a very good amendment that could be made. in fact, we have two bills that will be heard in the house next week. one is the covid-19 hate crimes bill which is going through on the senate side. the other is the no hate act of which i'm one of the lead co-sponsors. it's a bipartisan bill, which will do much to improve the tracking as well as the training that law enforcement gets on hate crimes. if those two bills were merged, if one of the amendments was the no hate act, that would be an actual improvement. but if there are poison pill kinds of amendments, then, no, it would not be acceptable.
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>> look, you have met this week with the biden administration again, i believe with the vice president and the president. after a slow start, how do you feel as if they have addressed the concerns of the aapi community? >> it was a productive meeting yesterday. i have to say that i was impressed because the first statement that president biden made is that racial equity will be a priority in his administration. we talked about the anti-hate crime legislation and what can be done. we talked about the aapi appointments on the anti-hate crime legislation. we presented my letter, which asked for the department of justice to do an independent investigation as to the shootings in georgia where eight people were killed and six of them asian women. president biden encouraged us to work with the department of justice and u.s. attorney
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general on that. we also talked about the aapi appointments. we did want to have an aapi cabinet secretary. in the interim, we do have a senior staff level person in the west wing who will help guide us in attaining that goal. >> well, we will see if they keep these promises that they have made to you. i'm sure we will all be tracking that. congresswoman judy chu, democrat from california, appreciate having you on. thank you. >> thank you. we have breaking news. an update in the mass shooting at the fedex facility in indianapolis. three separate law enforcement officials tell nbc news that the gunman is 20-year-old brandon scott hole. eight people were killed and five others injured when brandon hole opened fire late last night inside the fedex facility. that's the new information we have. if we have more, we will continue to share. we will be right back. continue to share. we will be right back.
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we do a deep dive with new in-depth report on a single topic. this week it's cybersecurity. we are vulnerable to hacks, and we're talking cyber pickups.
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everything is connected to the internet which means everything can be targeted. my colleague jolie kent starts her episode with reporting on the cyberwar and she joins us now. we're in a constant war, and it's sort of like what i said from cyber stickups, if you will, which are those ransom attacks to what china and russia are doing. >> reporter: hey, chuck, that's right. really what's impacting our society across the board right now are cyberattacks, ransomware attacks on schools and hospitals. in fact, microsoft says the average amount that a cyber criminal is stealing from an institution that's willing to pay several thousand dollars. microsoft is just one of many tech giants that are tackling this issue in concert with the u.s. government. they're taking on this whole new role, an accelerated role, as sort of a cyberdefender, a cyber cop, if you will. i sat down with brad smith and
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asked him a few questions for this episode. listen to this. brad smith is the president of microsoft. he says the company intercepted and thwarted a record billion 30 million e-mail threats last year. do you believe we're at war on the internet right now? >> i feel that certain people would say this isn't an act of war, but it also doesn't feel like a time of peace, especially when we see not only this technology, these attacks used for, say, something like espionage, but sometimes to damage people's computers, to disrupt the operations of, say, a hospital or a school, to pult at risk the electrical grid. these are dangerous steps, and we should not treat them as certainly peace time as normal. >> you know, jo, cybersecurity and the threats from it feels overwhelming at times. you know, i talked about the cyber stickups in all of this. can we rely on government to
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protect us from cybercrime? >> reporter: right now we're not. in fact, the tech companies i have been speaking to and covering over the last several years, the better part of a decade now, are all working with the federal government to provide support, to provide not just alerts but also to fetter out the threats that are already in our world, in our grid. one of the things i talked to brad smith about was the targeting of our water systems and what that means for people. we've seen these natural disasters happen, and going out water is often just as difficult, if not more difficult, than going without electricity. so it's a really interesting conversation, but the main point that i think really jumped out to me in doing this reporting is that it is not just about cybersecurity overall, it's about international relationships and where the american best interest really lies in these multinational
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companies, chuck. >> that's another big, big topic. will these companies grow too big to be governed by a single country? anyway, jolene kent, terrific reporting, thank you. you can watch her latest reports in our "meet the press reports" on demand now on peacock. before we go, i hate to remind you today is the 14th anniversary of the massacre. that was the worst shooting we witnessed, the worst massacre, and that was 14 years ago today. think of everything that's happened since. katy tur is right after this break. katy tur is right after this break. hey, check it out. one time i tripped on the sidewalk over here. [ heavy-metal music playing ] -[ snoring ] -and a high of 89 degrees. [ electronic music playing ]
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