♪♪ ♪♪ good day, everyone, from msnbc world headquarters in new york. welcome to "alex witt reports." we begin with breaking news in the coronavirus pandemic. more than 3 million people have died from the virus worldwide. that is equivalent to the populations of philadelphia and dallas combined. many believe the actual global death toll is much higher in part because of overlooked cases early on in the pandemic and moderna's ceo says people will need to get a booster shot of the vaccine because of the emerging variants. the company said it will have enough third doses for every american by this fall. at vaccination sites across this country, use of the johnson & johnson shots still on pause over the possible blood clots. it could significantly slow the vaccination process.

let's go to my colleague cori coughman joining me from stanford, connecticut. welcome to you on this saturday. is there any indication on timing as to when the j&j, shots can resume? >> at this point there are so many questions. we don't have any official word from the white house or from johnson & johnson themselves about what they have heard from researchers about timing, but we have heard dr. fauci say that he believes it will be a matter of days to get some of these questions answered, not weeks or months. we'll see if it plays out like that. the other big thing is scientists are trying to find the cause and the implications of what this means for the national strategy for vaccinations. the white house is insisting that even though we have the national pause for the third vaccine, the other two vaccines are on target and this will not affect the actual federal rollout of the vaccine. dr. fauci was with joy reid last night talking to her about why this should instill more

confidence in the vaccine overall, not less, because so many people have so many questions about this and they are more worried about the given news. listen to what he said, though. >> they did the pause because, as we saw first one, two, three, then four and then six. albeit, as rare as it is, as you said quite correctly and appropriately less than one in a million, out of an abundance of caution they want to take a quick pause, take a look at it, see what's going on and see if there are any more details and then that's it, but i think it will be a matter of days and not month, for sure. >> all right. so he also mentioned that because of the system that caught those cases with johnson & johnson, alex, the system did not catch similar cases in pfizer and moderna. that showed the public can be confident in those two vaccines and i spoke to the folks that are out here getting vaccinated

and connecticut one of the first states to pause the j&j, vaccine and out here they feel the same way. this headline about any possible concerns with this third vaccine does not hamper their ability to get the vaccine. they feel still very confident in the other two and they feel that this is an important push forward. connecticut is getting more of the moderna and pfizer vaccine to make up for their hold on johnson & johnson and the question is will other states move forward the same way? >> listen, it's great that moderna and pfizer can help fill in the blanks at this time. thank you. joining me now msnbc senior correspondent dr. john torres and the the author of the new book" "the doctor's guide for everything life has to throw your way," wow! first, the j&j, vaccination

still paused across this country, the company now says there's insufficient evidence of a causal relationship between their vaccine and the blood clots which i believe number in six official cases at this point, what are your thoughts, dr. torres, on the pause of the j&j, vaccinations? is it the right decision and how serious is the potential risk of developing blood clots? good afternoon, alex. you're right. there are only those six women that officially got the blood clot. they got the vaccine and between six and 13 days later they developed a blood clot, but on the average, across the united states four to five million people get the blood clot whether they're given the vaccine or not. the fda says let's take a step back or take it off the market and then we can look at the numbers and we can look at the data and find out if there is any relationship like you mentioned, johnson & johnson is saying it doesn't look like there is a relationship at this point, and the cdc wants to dig

deeper in the data and that's why they delayed a decision for at least a week to make sure that that connection is not there, but again, this could have some impact like you were mentioning on the distribution across the country and not for the average person and there are pfizer and moderna vaccines out there, but for certain populations and the homeless populations and the prison population that the vaccine could cause problem. >> do you think they'll be able to figure it out and how much do they also have to look at those six individuals and look at potentially there was something underlying that they may not have been aware of that could have contributed to this? >> alex, that is going to be the key looking at those six individuals and seeing is there some common denominator and for the most part of child-bearing age. did they take certain medications and certain histories and is there some connection between them and they'll move forward with the vaccine and saying there are

certain groups who should not take it and at this point they haven't found any of those commonalities and they're looking into that and in a week's timeframe, they can get a lot more information and a lot more understanding and i would be surprised if this upcoming week if they don't have a decision moving forward with some of the vaccine. >> anybody who has gotten j&j, who might be understandably concerned given the headlines and you have to look and listen to the details conversations that are given discussed right now, but is there anything that they should look for that could indicate a problem? >> regardless if you're male or female, if you've gotten the johnson & johnson vaccine, there are four things you should look for within three weeks of getting the vaccine. severe headache, abdominal pain, leg pain or shortness of breath. if you notice any of those then talk to your doctor. it doesn't mean you're having the issue, beyond that three week, it is beyond a critical

time. >> remember swelling, one of the women who spoke about her issue just anecdotally talking about how her leg had swollen and that was an indication that something is wrong. again, i'm not the doctor, you are, but let me talk about the moderna ceo who said a booster shot of the vaccine will be needed at some point and a third dose will be necessary within a year of being fully vaccinated. does that surprise you at all and the fact that it's, i'm assuming, potentially caused by the growing number of variants? is that what's behind this? >> well, part of it are the variants and the other part of it is how long does that shot work? they don't work for your life time and initially, we thought at least six months and now three to five years. the pfizer ceo is saying 12 month, it looks like at that point we might need boosters and the moderna ceo says we'll need

them some time in the future and on top of that are we're looking for a covid/flu booster and if you go get your shot you'll get one, not two. it doesn't surprise me, the variants do come into play and we don't know until time goes by how often we'll need those boosters and when we'll need the next one so we can tell with time, but right now that's the best guess, alex. >> very helpful if they're combining an annual flu shot with the covid booster. let's talk about your book and i'm curious what made you want to write this "guide to surviving everything." is there something that you want people to take away from it and something you want to reiterate right now to the viewers? >> you know, my whole life has been working towards this type of situation, from the time when i was with my dad. he was a big outdoorsman and we'd go outdoors and he'd teach me how to light a fire and how to navigate and in the military,

did survival training and rescue missions and disasters and even as a doctor, and did rescue missions and took care of people in disasters and i saw commonalities and people that survived well and other people that doesn't necessarily survive and that's what i talk about in the book and the main things and these are the biggest thing, having the mindset and having the will to survive and having something to get back to is extremely important and number two, as important is what i describe in the book is keep your head on a swivel. in other words, situational awareness and we all bury our heads in the cell phones and keep situationally aware because unfortunately, 2021, as we've noticed even in the last month or so a lot of issues going on from shootings to volcanoes to tornadoes and winter storms in texas and there are disasters that will continue to be out there and like this book can give you those ideas and the overall themes and we get down to specifics and even getting

down to how to survive a bear attack. >> you've been taking notes on writing this book for years and years, it has very sage advice, very practical advice. it is the kind of thing that i think every family should have in their home because it's a wonderful reference guide and well done and bravo to you, dr. john torres, thank you for joining me. let me turn to other headlines developing this hour. president biden is calling on congress to take action with guns after eight people were killed at a fedex in indianapolis. the u.s. has seen 53 mass shootings in the past month. democratic congressman mikie sherrill tells me what she thinks can be done. >> we do need, i think, to do more. we haven't even gotten through the basics in the senate and president biden is ready to sign this into law. we have got to find a way in the senate to start to end this horrible, horrible epidemic of

gun violence across the country. meanwhile, new developments on the january 6th attack on the capitol help a founding member of the oath keepers, in fact, pleading guilty to unlawfully entering congress and obstructing an official proceeding. in exchange prosecutors dropped an assault charge against him and krishnamoorthi reacting to this. >> it's a positive development, but remember, there were 800 or more people who breached the capitol and so we have to bring all of them to justice. i understand that there have been hundreds of arrests, but until we bring everyone to account, you know, we're not going to get to the bottom of what happened. >> we are getting revealing new details on the measures lawmakers are taking to feel safe on capitol hill. according to punchbowl news, lawmakers who criticized trump spent tens of thousands of dollars in the first quarter of this year on their personal

safety. that spending coming from both democrats and republicans including alexandria ocasio-cortez and on the other side, liz cheney. we are getting a look at how americans are grading his performance. it is across four different major polls with the high of 54% and the lowest at 48%. the biden administration is reversing course on its announcement that would keep the refugee cap of 15,000 set by the trump administration after facing fierce backlash for some progressive democrats. let's go to nbc's monica alba joining us from wilmington, delaware. what is happening with this refugee cap right now? >> reporter: well, so this was a rare reversal to a reversal, alex, from president biden. as a candidate, he had promised to raise the refugee cap from the historically low place it had been in terms of refugees admitted to the country under

former president donald trump, but in the matter of a couple of hours yesterday, the white house essentially said we're not going to be able to lift this from 15,000 to 62,000 which was the initial goal, instead saying we're going to be doing some reallocation, potentially fast tracking some of these applications, but that was met with such fierce blowback and backlash from democrats that they, instead, then had to put out another statement. i want to read to you what congresswoman jayapal first had to say about this. she's a progressive and she said in a statement it was simply unacceptable and unconscionable and this amounted to a broken promise from the president. dick durbin echoed that, say it ain't so, president joe. that gives you an idea of some of the voices. that all happened yesterday between the hours of 1:00 and 4:00 p.m. and that's how quickly it developed leading jen psaki

that was created entirely by the white house with this political stumble.she is saying the president will announce a new cap at least not until the fall and the end of this fiscal year and just to put this into context a little bit, alex, for our viewers. aid groups in the state department say that there are some 35,000 refugees that have already been approved who are waiting to come to the united states with thousands more in limbo, and according to those aid groups in the state department some of them had even flights booked already hoping to head here in the recent weeks and those have now had to be canceled as they await more indications from the biden administration, alex. >> we'll be awaiting those as well. thank you very much, monica alba in wilmington. next an idea in washington that is being called the kukllux

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in within this last hour, marjorie taylor-greene released a statement regarding reports of that new america first caucus that she and others are reportedly planning to start. this caucus, according to a seven-page policy platform first obtained by punchbowl news, calls for a common respect for uniquely anglo-saxon political traditions. let's go to msnbc's amanda golden joining me from capitol hill. marjorie taylor-greene is not denying the existence of a plan and suggesting she did not see the information that was released. is it the wording or what is it that she's talking about? >> well, it's a little confusing and we just got this new statement from marjorie taylor-greene within the last few minutes. in a very lengthy statement criticizing the media and

criticizing the democrats and she was out of town for a funeral and claiming not what she is actually pushing forward. she says, quote, i have plans to drive president biden's america first agenda with my congressional colleagues and we will not let the media or anyone else push the narrative. it was a draft proposal and not of what she is actually working on, but that this is still moving forward. it seems to welcome people of all races, color and credences and that's not the documents obtained by punchbowl news first with this reporting. i want to read to you what that document laid out as to the mission of this america first caucus. it argues a nativist ideology that, quote, mass immigration posses a threat to the long-term

existential future of the unique country. a spokesperson for greene didn't deny this was happening and more would be announced soon and more details were to come and criticized the fact that this was leaked to the public. there's been swift reaction from both sides of the aisle to this potential caucus and i want to show you what risch krishnamoorthi had to say. >> will we have the pro-hate caucus and the storm trooper caucus? marjorie taylor-greene and steve king inin forming this caucus are catering to david duke and others. >> it's a bit mixed. we saw kevin mccarthy issuing a strong tweet coming against this caucus, saying the republican party is a party of lincoln and not nativist dog whistles and however other republicans

reportedly involved including louis gohmert confirmed this was happening and he wanted to look into what it was all about before agreeing to be a part of it. >> amanda golden on capitol hill and thank you so much for the setup and we will pick up on it now, joining me now, congressman, first on this america first caucus being started by some of your republican colleagues. is there room for everyone in this caucus as marjorie taylor-greene has just said in her statement and do you agree with that kevin mccarthy said, as well? >> well, let me just clear one thing up. so the public understands that people that are viewing msnbc have no doubt about. what members of congress approve something like that and that sort of language is put on paper? it is not staff driven.

there is not a single staffer, republican, or democrat on capitol hill that would put something as controversial as anglo-saxon traditions and float it forward without a member of congress signing off on that. i call b.s. on that. i don't know her personally and spoken to her in passing once or twice in the hallway. i know she has background with the old, nothing new, i don't want to say anything bad about the new -- 2021 forsyth county, georgia, but i know she has a background with the old forsyth county, georgia, and she thought that this was okay and she said things over and over and made controversial statements related to qanon and jewish lasers and it completely was okay with her to form this caucus. and i'll also say that i don't think nah minority leader mccarthy's pushback was strong

enough. he has to come right out and say that this caucus is racist and that it's divisive and it's not about america. it's just kind of dancing around it and not calling her out for this is absolutely unacceptable. they have got to do better. >> i'm thinking about the jewish lasers and she said that was responsible for the fires in california and i thought what? you are on the education committee and she is no long or the education committee which i find relieving. did she address you respectfully? i'm just curious. >> she addressed me respectfully. she was looking for directions. it was her second or third day there, and she was literally trying to find her way around and that's fine, but you know, the actions that she takes and the fact that she just doesn't seem to, you know, have empathy for others and respect for

treating people kindly, i think, is really what's worrisome. >> yeah. >> all of these antics and all of these distractions that she continues to create and cause, i think, is just bad for congress and bad for the direction of the country and she needs to look in the mirror and decide that she is going to be better and be more respectful of people that are different from her. that's her biggest problem is that she would rather peddle conspiracy theorys about jews and african-americans and talk about anglo-saxon traditions rather than accept america for the diverse, great country that we are. >> yeah. let me pick up on your position on the house arms services committee and ask you about president biden's decision to further withdraw troops from afghanistan by september 11th. do you agree with the time line and the way the president is going about it? >> look, we can't be there forever. obviously, we wanted to make sure that we stopped the spread of terrorism and radicalism in

the region. there is a long history going back to the 1980s particularly in the part of afghanistan that's close to pakistan, and we wanted to -- we want to make sure that it doesn't have an impact on our safety here in america. so, no, we can't stay there forever. i think the big thing is that over the coming days and months that we just get clear direction on how we're going to withdraw all of the troops, and that it's going to be done safely and then looking forward, what does afghanistan look like if more radical forces are able to overtake the afghanistan security forces that we've been bolstering. what is that going to do for stability in the region and how is that going to affect pack san and what is that going to do for the spread of radicalism in the world? we really need to think about what are the long term consequences of pulling out, and i think that that's really the most important thing because again, we just absolutely can't

stay forever. >> well, it will be interesting to see what a lot of your colleagues are saying, notably, some of the commentary so far has predicted doom and gloom. we'll see if that all comes to pass. what about the calls on defund the police this after the killing of daunte wright, your colleague rashida talib, it can't be reformed. the calls to defund the police come after the debate within the party of whether the slogan, defund the police hurt democrats in the 2020 elections. is the messaging wrong? what about the outrage? what needs to be fixed to send a message that everyone can comprehend and get behind? >> yeah. let me tell you, alex, if you want to see good cooperation between black communities and the police come to my district here in -- in fort worth. come to west dallas, and you

will go into these neighborhoods like west dallas and rolling hills and you will see great relationships between the black community and police and annual events like national night out, for instance, monthly neighborhood organization programs and the black community is very supportive of the police. what we are not supportive of, obviously s for is black men to be continued to see as a threat so quickly and for police to use deadly force to resolve situations that don't need to be resolved with that sort of force, and so that's what we're for in the black community. we are definitely not for defunding the police by any stretch of the imagination and neither is our caucus. obviously people have their own opinions about things and we want to re-imagine policing in this country, right? for instance what they're doing with operation cease-fire in

cities like boston and oakland. that's what we want to see more of and we want to see the george floyd policing, and get better outcomes when law enforcement officers do have interactions with people in the black community. >> i'm encouraged to hear your observations of the policing there in your communities that you represent and that's good to know. it sounds like it's all about communication getting ready to know those people to whom you're trying to offer protection. congressman veasey, good to see you. coming up, i'll speak to the attorney of the -- the system's not broken, it's actually broken. it is working the way it is designed to. it is working the way it is designed to.

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news in brooklyn center, minnesota. nearly a hundred people taken into custody overnight after a peaceful protest turned tense. expectations are growing for another night of demonstration following the death of daunte wright who was shot and killed by police during a traffic stop on sunday. let's go to cal perry in brooklyn center, minnesota. cal, let's get to the expectations for tonight and how residents are responding to the protests. >> reporter: you know, a hundred people arrested last night. this is as big a number as we have seen in what has been a week in brooklyn center. the police coming in hard and fast at around 10:00 p.m. putting everyone basically on the ground and sorting out who were journalists and who were protesting and a hundred people arrest makes you wonder what will happen tonight. it is the weekend, the weather is nice and we are one step closer to the verdict of the chauvin trial. when it comes to daunte wright, there is a concern on the ground

as there is in so many of these cases that the message is being lost. they'll tell you what happened to daunte wright and is systemic and what happens in this area and what happens when people grow up. take a listen to what one resident said about not feeling safe here. >> i don't feel safe. no, i don't. i really don't. i'm being honest with you. it can happen to me. it can happen to my kids. i don't feel safe and they're over there and they're doing what they're doing. if they were doing the right thing you wouldn't be here, i wouldn't be here, wouldn't anybody be here. >> alex, we have an extraordinary press conference here in the beginning of the week when we found out that none of the officers who patrol said these streets actually live in this town. it is one of the reasons that people here want more federal legislation when it comes to policing and you look at the george floyd policing act, the federal act that would change the way that the streets are

policing this country and that is the type of activity that we need in this country. >> as i heard that woman talk and the precious little boy in her arms, she's got to have a thought about what about his future and i want him to be safe as he grows up. cal perry, thank you so much. let's go now to the army officer who was pepper sprayed. one of the police officers involved has been fired. the police chief said officer joe gutierrez, that guy right there, could no longer serve the community after his encounter with caron nazario went viral. >> get out of the car. >> you received an order. obey it. i'm honestly afraid to get out. >> you should be p. >> get out of the car and get on the ground. can you please talk to me about what's going on? >> get on the ground now! >> jonathan arthur, associate

with the thomas h. roberts law firm and the attorney for lieutenant nazario. your reaction and i'm sure you've seen that video time and time again. your reaction, do you agree that this particular officer had to go? >> yes. i think that particular officer had to go and i also think we need to consider whether or not he should remain certified through our dcjs. >> okay. the windsor police chief and commentary there, the actions in general, where do you stand on them and when you look at this, do you feel, jonathan, that this is training? lack thereof? just a brute approach to things? how do you explain what went down? >> i do think there is some issues with the training, but there are certain things that you just cannot train into people, to be polite, for example, to be courteous. to not lie or bear false

witness. the violence that you see here is disturbing and it's visceral, but it's as equally disturbing as what officers put in the official record after this search was over. >> so let's listen to what chief riddle said when asked about apologizing to nazario. take a listen to this, sir. >> i'm glad that he's okay. you know, at the end of the day i'm glad that nobody got hurt. that situation ended in the best way it could have. i wish he would have complied a whole lot earlier. my guys missed opportunities to verbally de-escalate that thing and change that outcome. >> is he owed an apology for that? >> i don't believe so. >> why so? >> you know, lieutenant nazario took certain actions that created where we got to. >> so let's make a point here, first of all, that someone in fact did get hurt, that being your client and anyone watching the video can see that lieutenant nazario was really

the only calm person through that entire encounter. how do you rationalize the chief blaming the victim here? >> i mean, unfortunately, it's a standard playbook in law enforcement when they get called out, right, for doing egregious, horrendous conduct is to try and blame the victim, you know? the chief uses words like compliant. i just don't think it means when he thinks it means. you take a look at the beginning of this stop. i think it's fairly patent from all objective accounts that my client began to comply almost immediately when those lights went on by slowing down, with turn signals. i think it indicates that this chief might not be cut out to lead a police force into the 21st century because we cannot have this type of behavior. when you look at officer gutierrez. when you see the entirety of that video, in my recollection serves me right, he pepper

sprayed your client not once, not twice, three or four times, even. i mean, is that a form of excessive force? >> yes. the first one was a form of excessive force. the second one, the third strike and the knee strikes and the beatings once he got on the ground and escalating the situation by pulling their pistols when they got out of the car is all excessive and should not be tolerated. give me the status of the lawsuit right now and how is your client doing? >> so the lawsuit is going to work its way through court, right? we're going through a jury and we're trying to set law and these officers are people and they're citizens and they need to be held accountable to the law like everyone else and as far as how my client's doing. you know, we -- first, he really appreciates all of that crying out and pouring out of support, right? we get the people that will defend the police no matter what

occurs and we'll get those and it was surprising just all of the support that we have that my client has received over this and that's been really helpful. so, yeah. thank you. >> jonathan, i know that you've been doing all of the talking for your client, is there a reason why he has yet to come forward and make a statement? >> it's twofold, right? one is as a matter of course, i don't really like having my clients talking about open litigation and number two, i think he's legitimately afraid for his safety, right? we've got you know, an officer or former officer now with a bunch of spare times on his hand are hands that's shown to be hyperaggressive, with the coverage and addition with patrols and the crazies will come down and if they track him down things can go poorly and after an incident like this, can you trust the police to come to your aid? it was a constitutionally

shattering issue for him. so he's holding in there, but he's been better. >> yeah. you talk about how he appreciates the support he's getting, but you have also said that nazario filed this lawsuit to try to put an end to this type of policing. let's listen to what daily show host trevor noah said about this this week. >> the system and policing is doing exactly what it's meant to do in america ask that is to keep poor people in their place who happens to be the most poor in america? black people. you monetize them. you imprison them which monetizes them again. it's a system. it's not broken. it's working the way it's designed to work. >> a pretty powerful statement. do you agree with this and when you see so many who have lost their lives and appears to be a systemic problem? >> i agree that there are systemic issues with law

enforcement and it does need to be re-imagined so that we are not losing so many people. we don't see that the violence stops, so that my brothers and sisters of color are not getting targeted and hit with this disproportionate numbers, and you know, the lawsuit will do a couple of things, right? the lawsuit will hopefully give us some more law to use for qualified immunity purposes to hold other officers accountable and make it easier to apply the law fairly and correctly to them and stop this behavior because they're not going to stop if they're not held accountable, and that's the purpose of this lawsuit? >> so, jonathan, do you have any inkling on how the police department will defend this lawsuit, defend the actions? have you been given any indication of how you'll go about doing it? think, i do. i would not be good at my job if i didn't. >> do you want to share that with us? >> sorry.

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94-year-old queen by herself approaching the last years of her life without the man she loved virtually her entire life by her side. >> reporter: yeah, alex. i'm a former newspaper reporter. if i had to guess, i'd say that is the image that will be on newspaper front pages around the world tomorrow. as you said, the queen, 94 years old, sitting alone in that first pew at st. george's chapel masked and saying good-bye to her husband of 73 years. you know, the queen has been such a source of stability in this country for so long, and i think it would be really striking for a lot of people in the uk and around the world to see her alone and isolated like that and it's a reminder that some some ways this is the beginning of an end of an era. prince philip is gone and she will be 95 next month.

she hasn't traveled abroad in years now and she's relying more and more on prince charles and younger royals to represent her. speaking of younger royals, we did see prince harry and prince william today together for the first time since that explosive interview with oprah winfrey. we watched hem walking out of the funeral together. they were chatting and they had kate with them. we don't know what was said, obviously, but if you're someone who cares about the future of the monarchy, it was an encouraging sign to see the brothers together after what has clearly been a difficult period for them. as for prince philip himself, his life was celebrated, his military service was honored and his legacy will live on literally. his son prince charles, will be the next king, his grandson, prince william will be king after that and he lived long enough, 99 years old, to meet his great-grandson prince george who is going to be king after that. so that is three generations of future kings who grew up at the

knee in the shadow of the duke of edinburgh. so alex, that's quite a legacy. >> indeed, a life well lived, a very long one although to your point it was unfortunate he couldn't hit that 100 milestone, just two shorting months from now. raf sanchez, thank you so much from outside buckingham palace. it is donor money usually used for campaigns, but matt gaetz is using that to defend himself. we'll talk about all of that next. himself we'll talk about all of that next #1 for diabetic dry skin* #1 for psoriasis symptom relief* and #1 for eczema symptom relief* gold bond champion your skin people everywhere living with type 2 diabetes gold bond are waking up to what's possible with rybelsus®. ♪ you are my sunshine ♪ ♪ my only sunshine... ♪ rybelsus® works differently than any other diabetes pill to lower blood sugar in all 3 of these ways...

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congressional reporter for the politico and author of the huddle newsletter. olivia, welcome. so, are the talks of this caucus causing a deeper rift within the party than what we're seeing necessarily on twitter? is it splitting up the republican party? >> well, we saw -- take ken buck, for example. he's a member of the house freedom caucus. he was there condemning on twitter this america first caucus that is said to be forming, and that was really kind of unusual to see him condemning other members of the house freedom caucus. now, my colleague and i have actually been following this pretty closely. this is a division that has been growing more and more in the house freedom caucus, which has previously been sort of united under the previous leadership of jim jordan and mark meadows, we're now seeing these different divides about where the party and where this ultraconservative group is heading. now, as you said, you know, this is really kind of sparked this fire storm in d.c. over,

basically, saying, let's protect these norms and traditions. i'm not sure if you saw it, but marjorie taylor greene just put out a very interesting statement that i have never really quite seen anything like it where she's calling the psychotic left wing nuts and language that just usually you didn't used to see when you were covering congress. >> yeah. it was a very interesting statement that she put out, but she was trying to distance herself from that which was put out, right? as being a preview or a first draft, something that hadn't been finalized. it was hard to figure out what she was trying to say in that. >> right. and so, actually, a source had told this to my colleague, melanie, previously. they were distancing themselves from the document, saying this was formed from a staff level outside group that was proposed to them. they were claiming this wasn't actually part of their platform, and so i think that that's -- they're basically saying, we're going to push forward and create

this america first caucus to push whatever former president donald trump's agenda was in congress. >> therein, i think, lies -- >> they're trying to distance themselves. >> therein, though, i think, lies the language she was using very much reflects that which we did hear for four years from the former president. congressman matt gaetz tweeted that he was joining marjorie taylor greene in this caucus. gaetz himself has certainly come under fire. there are reports that the justice department is investigating whether or not he had a sexual relationship with a minor, whether he paid for her to travel with him. we'll point out that matt gaetz has denied all allegations. he has not been charged. the investigation is still ongoing. but this week, i know, olivia, that you talked to several house republicans who came back to the hill for the first time this week since the break and also since the news broke and you asked about gaetz and his political future. i'm so curious to know what they told you. what are their thoughts on that? >> this was sort of political kryptonite. no republican lawmakers that we talked to really wanted their

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messaging that republicans have tried to stick to, which is innocent until proven guilty. well, they don't really like the pressure that they're seeing and the news updates that you're seeing so you have fitzpatrick and more moderates giving their money back. >> sounds to me like you're going to have to continue running after republicans to get a statement. thank you so much. two historians talked to me about why comparisons are being made between president biden and lbj and what do the new polls suggest? we'll take a look. e new polls suggest? we'll take a look. ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ comfort in the extreme. ♪♪ the lincoln family of luxury suvs. ♪♪ trelegy for copd.

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♪♪ a very good day from msnbc world headquarters here in new york. welcome, everyone, to alex witt reports. here's what's happening as we're just about 2:00 p.m. eastern, 11:00 a.m. pacific time. we are beginning with new details on the deadliest workplace mass shooting the nation has seen since the start of the pandemic. today, for the first time, we're learning about the eight people who were killed at that fedex facility in indianapolis as president biden speaks out, calling on congress to take action. >> this has to end. it's a national embarrassment. the folks who own guns, they support universal background checks. the majority of them think we should not be selling assault weapons. who in god's name needs a weapon that can hold a hundred rounds? or 40 rounds or 20 rounds? it's just wrong.