>> ibtihaj, thank you for spending time with us tonight. that is all the time i have for today. i am alicia menendez. i'll see you back here next weekend 6:00 p.m. eastern for more voices. for now i hand it over to mehdi hasan. hello, mehdi. >> hello, alicia. i'm so glad you did that last segment with my good friend ibtihaj. now a government in europe forcing women not to wear hijab. shouldn't government stay out of what women wear? >> the split screen is pretty striking. >> yeah. it's absolutely crazy. 2021. alicia, have a great rest of your sunday. thank you so much. >> thanks. tonight on the mehdi hasan show, protests erupt over the police shooting of a black man during the trial of an officer accused of killing another black man. congressman barbara lee.

plus, biden says america's forever war is coming to an end. i'll speak to the admiral who oversaw the raid that killed bin laden. also my exclusive interview with nom chomsky. and i speak to oscar nominated actor, all coming up tonight. all coming up tonight. good evening. i'm mehdi hasan. police in northern maine shot and killed a 28-year-old man named jacob wood. same day police in houston killed 46-year-old marcello garcia. his family says he was suffering from a mental health crisis. friends say they've been worried about the mental health of jeffrey healy, age 40, before he was shot and killed in new hampshire. tyler green, age 23, shot and killed while responding to a domestic disturbance. april 5th, police in south

jersey shot and killed a man. same day police in honolulu shot and killed a 16-year-old boy during a pursuit. april 3rd, a 21-year-old man in new york city was running away from gunman and toward the police when officers shot him multiple times in the torson. gabriel taso was killed. a few of the people who have been killed by police this month alone. so many people that, at one point, coverage of the murder trial of one police officer gave way to coverage of yet another police killing just a few miles away. in fact, ever since the murder trial of former minneapolis derek chauvin started march 29th -- the police officer, of course, who put his neck on the -- put his knee on the neck of the late george floyd, police killings in america have mounted with more than three people a day in this country dying at the hands of law enforcement. plus a new study finds police are responsible for roughly 8% of all adult male homicide

deaths in the you state each and every year. and -- and, wait for this, in 2020 there were only 18 days, 18 days in which the police didn't kill somebody and that somebody was three times more likely to be black than white. utter lunacy. can you blame activists, especially black activists, for calling for the defunding of police forces that end the lives of black people with this kind of regularity and disproportionality? the city of minneapolis is now bracing for a verdict with closing arguments in the chauvin trial set to begin tomorrow. nearby suburb has been shaken by last sunday's police killing of daunte wright during a traffic stop. as jonathan capehart writes in today's "washington post," being black in america is exhausting, no matter our underer, age or socioeconomic status, we are

perceived as threats. therefore we live under siege. daunte wright's true crime, daunte wright's true crime may have been that he was driving while black. at what point, i have to ask at what point did we collectively decide to accept that expired license plates or air fresheners are a capital crime, no trial needed? not even an arrest or having a broken taillight or allegedly trying to use counterfit money, using cigarettes, sleeping in your own bed, being in your grandmother's backyard or leesk your front door ajar? we cannot continue like this. it is well past time to stop the insanity. but how? joining me now to talk about this is congresswoman barbara lee who co-sponsored the bill against police brutality in the

wake of george floyd's death last year. there's a problem with police brutality, violence and shootings of unarmed people, especially black people. but what is the solution? >> sure. mehdi, first of all, this is, you know, the unfortunate reality that african-americans have lived with really, quite frankly, for 400 years, 401 years. it's a manifestation of structural racism that is still in this country. police are hired to protect the public, for public safety purposes. what the whole country now is seeing is how the black community has had to live under siege, constantly, day after day, and when police officers know that they could -- will get off until we address qualified immunity, for instance, in the george floyd justice and policing act that we need to get

out of the senate, this is going to continue. all these cases that you showed us, there were no efforts to de-escalate, no efforts to make some determinations with regard to what was taking place. innocent lives, young people, their lives continue to be snuffed out because of police brutality, misconduct and murders. and we have got to get these bills passed and also i really applaud the protester people who have got to stay in the streets and protest. this is the only way that elected officials are going to respond and that's through the pressure and the voices of the people. >> a lot of your democratic colleagues got very upset with slogan defund the police. they claim it cost them seats in the house. when you look at what's happening on our streets day after day, it's understandable that people are going to call for that, is it not? >> we need to make sure that resources are put into public safety. that's what we're calling for. we have to make sure that people

who need help, mental health services, who need a place to live, who need food, who need whatever, that those alternatives are there. so many people -- large percentages of people who are in jail now, especially black and brown people, are there as a result of mental health issues. they should not be there. we should not have to be intimidated by being arrested for traffic stops. so we've got to have a complete reimagining and rethinking of how we police, especially in -- for communities, which are continually under siege. we have to have public safety. that's what i think most of us stand for. >> are you worried what will happen, the reaction on the street if derek chauvin is found not guilty? >> first of all, it's unimaginable that he would be found not guilty. so i'm not even -- i'm glad the authorities, and i think people

there are prepared for whatever. i also know that there is no way that this legal system supposedly criminal justice system and judicial system will allow this man to get away with murder. and that's what that would be. and so we are -- i mean, i'm confident that the jury is going to convict. i mean, the case was presented. the medical examiners, the police officers who testified. please, this has got to be -- justice has got to be done. >> it's got to be done whether it will. we'll see. before i let you go, congresswoman, it's been 20 years since you were the only member of congress to vote against the invasion of afghanistan. i'm speaking to admiral mcraven next. what's your message to generals to say afghanistan and allow the taliban to take over again. >> my message is we've been

there 20 years. what are we going to do, be there another 20 years with the same message? we need to embark upon diplomacy, development, encourage peace talks to move forward. we have to protect women and make sure that women's rights and children's rights and women's equality, that we fund those initiatives. and we train hundreds of thousands of security forces, mehdi, in afghanistan. so we owe people of afghanistan a heck of a lot. it's going to be, you know, a difficult -- i would say it's going to have its difficult moments in terms of transitioning out but we have got to make sure that we bring our young men and women home. they've done everything we've asked them to. now we need to have this orderly trans -- bring them home orderly, get the heck out of there. we are going to continue to secure our diplomats. we will have a presence but it's not going to be a heavy military presence, because this will

never end if we do. >> get the heck out of there, well put. congresswoman barbara lee, many thanks for your time tonight. appreciate it. >> thank you. and i thank the biden administration for seeing the light. next, we'll talk more about the u.s. leaving afghanistan and the biden administration with a person who served there and led the raid to capture osama bin laden. i'll get admiral mcraven's thoughts after this break. >> still ahead, diversity problem in hollywood is still a big one. sound of metal star riz ahmed. climate is one of the biggest problems facing joe biden. how is he handling it? my interview with noam chomsky. y visibly diminish wrinkled skin in... crepe corrector lotion... only from gold bond.

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many will argue we should stay, stay fighting in afghanistan because a withdrawal would increase america's weakness in the world. i think the exact opposite is true. we went to afghanistan because of a horrific attack that happened 20 years ago. that cannot explain why we should remain there in 2021. . >> america's forever war in

afghanistan, at least, is coming to an end. president biden is the fourth and, he proposes, final president to preside over that conflict. going against the advice of his top military officials, who tried to convince him to keep a small number of boots on the ground. biden has made no secret of his desire to leave. he was the lone voice calling for an exit in the obama white house. two decades of war has seen more than 2300 u.s. personnel killed and tens of thousands of afghans also killed. the u.s. will be leaving a country known as the graveyard of empires without a clear victory over the taliban. what was the point? i'm joined by a man who knows the country and the conflict inside/out. admiral mcraven, credited for overseeing the navy s.e.a.l. raid in pakistan that led to the killing of osama bin laden. best-selling author "the hero

code: lessons learned from lives well lived." welcome to the show. do you support joe biden's decision to pull all u.s. troops out of afghanistan? because the u.s. has spent nearly $1 trillion there. lost 2300 troops over the past 20 years. yet today, al qaeda continues to exist in afghanistan. it's also a global franchise. the taliban still exists. 85,000 fighters control 20% of the country. afghanistan continues to be responsible for more than 80% of global opium production, and the u.n. reported just last week that afghan civilian casualties spiked by almost 30% in the first three months of this year, from where i'm sitting, admiral, afghanistan looks like an absolute disaster of a war for the united states. >> mehdi, good to join you here. let me start with the biden decision. and, you know, i think the biden administration made an assessment that we were not going to have a military solution in afghanistan.

frankly, i think that was the right assessment. as a former senior officer, what i know is that as a military officer, you just want to be heard. you want to make sure that you have the opportunity to outline the risks of the president. i know for a fact that general scott miller, general frank mckenzie, commander of the joint chiefs of staff, mark milli and secretary lloyd austin, all of whom have extensive experience in afghanistan, they all have a chance to sit down with the president and lay out their concerns, lay out the risks. and you've outlined some of them. there's a risk of a resurging taliban. there's a risk that al qaeda will find sanctuary again, a risk that we'll take away all the gains that have occurred with all the women in afghanistan. from a military standpoint, then it is up to the civilian leadership to make the decision. once that decision is made, as a professional military, we salute smartly and move out and try to find a solution to the risks out

there. so, one, i think the president has made the right decision. >> but, admiral, we know from the afghan paper, leaked government documents published in "the washington post" in 2019 that, quote, u.s. officials failed to tell the truth about the war in afghanistan, making rosie pronouncements they knew to be false and hiding unmistakable evidence the war had become unwinnable. we were lied to. were we not? >> no. i mean, i can honestly tell you, i don't know of any senior military leader that looked the president of the united states in the eyes and didn't tell him the unvarnished truth. i'm not sure of that report you're referring to. i can tell you, everybody i know, these are officers of incredible integrity, incredible character. you are talking about people like the chairman of the joint chiefs, mark milli. before him, general joe dunford, two of the finest officers i ever worked with. joe dunford, of course, led the forces in afghanistan.

so, i can't comment on the report. i haven't read it. what i can tell you is i know the character of the men that are reporting to the president of the united states, and the last thing we want to do is mislead the president or the public. >> one of the reasons, admiral, i've always been so opposed to the war in afghanistan and the broader war on terror is because i believe you simply can't defeat terrorism with bombs or bullets. in your fascinating new book "the hero code" you almost seem to agree with that. one part of the book that jumps out of me is where you talk to personally apologize to an afghan elder whose kids were killed. you say i had no idea how the old man could forgive me. had it been me, the hatred would have been too deep to reconcile with anyone even remotely responsible for my children's death. it feels, admiral, like not enough americans understand that, understand that their hatred is not of our freedoms,

as george w. bush once claimed, but maybe our violence, occupation, knocking down their doors in the middle of the night, just as we americans would hate a foreign army that burst into our homes in the middle of the night. >> well, sure. no country likes to be occupied. but let's also put the last 20 years in a little bit of perspective. we went into afghanistan to take away the sanctuary for al qaeda. we have not had an attack like 9/11 in the last 20 years. we've also taken the opportunity to build an afghan national security force of 350,000 afghans. the hope, and it is a hope, and there is risk involved but the hope is that this force will be able to keep the taliban at bay. we've had dramatic effect on the growth of women in afghanistan. 40% of the students in afghanistan now are women. they are in the academic life. they are in the military. they are in the police. they're in politics. this was kind of unheard of under the taliban regime. and, of course, for me personally, we also had the

opportunity to launch the raid that got bin laden from afghanistan. so, you know, is it afghanistan going to be a military victory? are we going to have, you know, a surrender ceremony or victory ceremony on the u.s.s. missouri? no, we're not. here is what i would tell you, mehdi, i think of the remarkable sacrifice of the soldiers, sailors, airmen, marines, foreign service officers that were there, ngos, none of that sacrifice will be diminished one bit by the outcome of this war. the heroism will not be diminished one bit. their patriotism will not be diminished one bit, by how this war ends up. >> okay. just before we run out of time, i do want to turn to another issue. you have said in the past you believe donald trump was the greatest threat to democracy and the republic of your lifetime. given the insurrection on january 6th and the role played by members of the gop in

inciting that, do you believe the republican party itself is also now a threat to the republic, to american democracy? not just donald trump. >> well, let's get the quote right to begin with. what i said was trump's comment about the press being the enemy of the american people, that was the greatest threat to democracy in my lifetime. i'm a journalism major, mehdi. i believe in the first amendment as the foundation of this great country. and so again, i've been raked over the coals by the press but let me tell you, if we don't have a free and fair press, if we don't have the ability to exercise our right of assembly, if we don't have these rights, it is the greatest threat to democracy in our lifetime. again, this wasn't about necessarily donald trump. this was about his threat to the press at the time. as far as the insurrection on january 6th, i will tell you, like a lot of people, i was watching that on tv. it was incredibly disturbing. it was a sad day for democracy.

of course, it's showcased, frankly, the worst of america. but it also showcased the best of america in the capitol police that stood their ground as these insurrectionists took over the capitol. these were some brave men and women, standing by. the fact of the matter, we've got to work for democracy every single day, from the local level to the state level to the federal level. this democracy is fragile. and we need to put the work into it to make sure we can sustain it for the next 240 some odd years. >> we can only hope. admiral william mcraven, thank you for being with us. congratulations on the new book. >> thank you. coming up, if riz ahmed wins the oscar for best actor, he will be the first muslim ever to do so. why has it taken so long? the "sound of metal" star and old schoolmate is next. first, richard lui is here

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but i also used to be really into acting. back in my high school days, i even won awards for drama though i clearly wasn't good enough to go professional, but another kid i went to school with, a few years below me, was good enough. so good at it that next week he's up for best actor at the academy awards. "sound of metal" riz ahmed wins an oscar, he'll be the first muslim ever to do so. the first time two men of sian descent are up for best actor at the same timement makes a welcomed change from the oscar so white hash tag of recent years. it doesn't mean box ticking at expense of talent but recognizing the talent already out there. check out riz's amazing performance who plays a heavy metal drummer who loses his hearing. >> here we go.

[ silence ] >> earlier, i spoke with my old schoolmate from the uk, riz, who joined me from california where he's getting ready for next week's oscars. congratulations on your oscar nomination. >> thank you very much. thanks for having me. >> riz, something like -- i did the math. something like 25 years ago, if memory serves me correctly, you and i were in the drama competition in high school back in north london. i think we both won in our categories. i know i did. we were in the school play together. did you know then, a, that of this what you were going to spend your life doing and doing well and, b, doing so well that

you would one day be at the academy awards? did you have that mapped out when we were both kids doing this for a laugh in school? >> no, of course not. i didn't think that at all. it was crazy. i never really took it to be a viable career path for me, you know, for whatever reason. it just seemed so kind of unlikely. but i'll tell you one thing i was certain of, that i would be seeing mehdi hasan on tv. i remember even then you kind of being debating champion, the vicious debating kind of king that no one wanted to go toe to toe with. i think it's no surprise what you're doing right now. so that much i was certain of. >> you're very kind, but i think we all knew as well, especially when you ended up at university. let be clear. this role for which you're up for an oscar on, you spent several months learning both how to drum and american sign language for this role in "sound

of metal." you mastered the american accent so much so that many people didn't know you were british. lena dunham was shocked to hear your british voice. were you be considered a method actor, who throws your all into any role you get? >> i would say i'm not technical trained in method acting and what that -- the official process of had an that is. but i think with everything role, you have to give everything, particularly with a role like this. there was no option really but almost live in character for those seven months. i would wake up in the morning and do sign language for a couple of hours, work with my acting coach for a couple of hours, then go and play drums for a couple of hours, work out and then spend the evening in kind of addiction recovery circles as well, because my character, ruben, has a background of addiction.

it was just a process. that's what i love about this. all the worlds you get to see, and the different lives you get to inhabit. if you have the opportunity why not throw yourself into it? >> you certainly do. and the results are clear to see on the screen. it's an astonishing performance. i know you said you're certainly not representing the deaf community or deaf experience in "sound of metal" because it's so and i get that. i do wonder, will you like it or not, brown people, muslims see you do a brown role on tv and identify with it, and with you, do you think people in the deaf community are identifying if not with you the actor, then with your character, with ruben and what he goes through in this movie? >> i would never really speak for deaf people or deaf audiences, but some of the feedback i've had from deaf audiences has been really positive insofar as i think it's

just quite rare to see these lives depicted on screen. it's quite rare to see a film that's captured in films that deaf and hearing audiences can enjoy alongside one noemplt i think it's often something that we neglect with regards to how we represent people of diverse backgrounds or disabled backgrounds or, you know, for me a big learning point was the realization that deafness isn't a disability. it's a culture for many people. and so i would say that it's very kind of moving to know that this film, in some small way, has been an incremental step towards just improving the way that deaf people might be represented on screen. >> yeah, and such important representation. on that note i have to ask about the d word, diversity. the oscars has been relentlessly

and rightly attacked for lacking diversity in recent years. this year, there's you and steven yoon in the best actor category. nine of the categories almost half are white this year. is that, in your view, riz, hollywood making genuine progress in terms of diversity? in 2016 you wrote no one resembles me in the waiting room for an acting audition. is that still the case? >> you know, it's really interesting, isn't it? i think progress is sometimes not linear. if you go back decades, had you actors like omar sharif playing lead role in mainstream hollywood epics like dr. zhivago. if you think about that and compare that to where we are now, you could say we made progress, you could say we're back to where we need to be i think in a way you never arrive at the destination. there's always further to go. we've got asian actors, anthony

hopkins, one of the oldest actors ever nominated. you've got so many women nominated as directors. we need to go further. it's always further to go. for me as someone who, all my life shall was thinking about the representation of brown people or minorities and muslims. hang on a minute, there's this whole other world we need to open up in terms of representing deaf community, the disabled community and there's still so much further to go there in our screen and culture as a whole. yes, we're moving in the right direction but hopefully we'll never stop moving in the right direction and certainly will never have arrived. culture really is a space where our collective consciousness exists and hopefully that keeps expanding and expanding until it can embrace all of us. >> before i let you go, i have to ask about the political moment we're in. it's fair to say you're a small people political person in terms of your movie and tv roles and

rap lyrics even. i want your take on where you think america is post-trump, especially for minorities, immigrants. you and i are brown muslim immigrants in the u.s., married to americans. what's your take? >> it's interesting. politics is a point of view on the world. a story allows you to inhabit a point of view in a world, perhaps a point of view that you haven't inhabited before, a world you haven't seen before. ultimately, i think the truth that i hope we're unearthing right now in this political moment as we come back off the trump era is the same truth you unearth at the end of every story you tell as an actor, writer or director, or every story you experience as an audience member. that truth is that underneath the differences that seemingly separate us is a common will of humanity that unites us all.

that's the only reason acting is possible. the onl reason i can play this character or that character is because inside each of us is all of us, and i hope in this moment we've all gone through the shared trauma of covid together that we all realize that there is no us and them. there's only us. so, that's my hope. perhaps i'm an optimist. but that's all you can be. >> that is all you can be. thank you so much, riz. last one, we're out of time. have you practiced your -- pretend happy face in case you don't win? i think you will win but when they do those boxes, do you have that practiced? >> yeah. how is this? >> it's a good one. i think it's good. you've got to look happier, more selfless and happy. but you're going to win, riz. i have a feeling you're going to win. >> i just want to say one thing, which is it's been amazing to see you and your journey and

everything that you do out there for representation and the conversations that you broach is inspirational. so, keep going, man. >> you're too kind. good luck next sunday. thank you for coming on the show tonight. appreciate it. >> thank you. still ahead, noam chomsky is speaking out about the biden presidency and climate change. my exclusive interview with him is coming up. >> next, a proposal that's so racist and so blatantly white nationalist, you would think even the gop would crack down on it. think again. we're getting the timer ready for my 60-second round next. for. ♪ ♪ ♪ hey google, turn up the heat. ♪ ♪ ♪

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is that rare good news i spot on the global horizon? pledging to work together to address climate change. it comes as president pressed 14 world leaders at a virtual climate summit on thursday.

biden took executive action to bring the u.s. back into the paris climate agreement to stop the keystone pipeline and pause oil and gas leasing. critics say it's not enough, given the scale of the challenge. one person who is very concerned that we don't take climate change seriously enough is noam chomsky, renowned critic of presidents drltic and republican, a political intellectual and activist, co-author of "climate crisis and the global green new deal" and "chomsky for activists." i spoke to him earlier today. noam chomsky, thank you so much for coming on the show tonight. let me start by asking you this. what do you make of joe biden's presidency so far as we approach the 100-day mark? has it surprised you? >> on the domestic front, i think i am surprised. it's better than i expected.

in fact, quite reasonable, particularly, considering the nature of the opposition. on foreign policy, i think it's pretty dangerous. a lot to be desired. >> yeah. i want to about afghanistan for policy later with you in the interview. for now let's talk about climate change which is a foreign policy and domestic policy, and joe biden is trying to get the chinese and other big carbon emitters onboard. what does he need to do in your view? >> well, to say to bring others onboard is a little misleading. we have to bring ourselves onboard. the last years the united states has been an outlier moving radically in the wrong direction, so yes, we have to get back onboard.

biden's program is -- it's the best that has yet been proposed by any president, any -- it's a move in the right direction. primarily, i think, thanks to the extensive pressures of activist movements which have made an effect. there's a resistance from the mainstream democrats, they don't want to go far enough and he has not gone far enough. it has to be improved but it has got the right objectives and if it's modified in a way which can achieve those objectives it will be very important, and in fact crucial for human survival. >> i will ask you a question that i asked on this show, if

joe biden waved a wand and said i will ring you occupy climate change, and what is the one thing you would advice him to do? >> take direct steps to begin the elimination of fossil fuels at a pace which will remove them completely by mid century. that's the goal. and also put into operation other plans, a whole variety of them, no time to talk about them, and that would help expedite this move, and he can do very simple things right away and ensure that, say, fracking is now increasing with the rise of oil prices and the fracking operations are keeping to trump's deregulation, meaning allowing methane to escape into the atmosphere which they know exactly how to stop but it's a

little more preferable to do it, to stop that and begin the program of moving towards efficient mass transportation and reconstruction of cities, necessarily, and retraining of oil workers for other jobs, a whole variety of things can be done. the main thing is stop the use of fossil fuels step by step every year and terminate it by 2050. >> there's some on the left that take a both sides approach to democratics and republicans, and they are both equally bad. you don't, you told people to vote for biden in the lesser of two evils lasts year, and you called the republican party the most dangerous organization in human history. why do you say that? >> they are the only organization in human history that is dedicated with passion

to ensuring that human survival -- survival of organized human society will be impossible. that's exactly their program since 2009. when they shifted to a denialist position under the impact of the koch brothers' juggernaut, and before that when mccain was running, there was a moderate limited climate program. >> yes. >> and instead the denialism, and there's nothing like that in human history. it's clear what is going to happen. >> yeah, the only mainstream conservative party in the western world that declines science to highlight that, right. you're 92 years young and you have been writing about politics over 60 years now and dare i ask over the course of your life and

career what are you most proud of and what is your biggest regret, what did you get wrong? >> the biggest regret is not doing enough and not doing it early enough. there are things that have been achieved through which i'm happy to have made some contribution. the most gratifying thing is the work of the young activists, people like sunrise movement who i just mentioned and many others who are carrying things forward in the face of severe difficulties -- >> yes. >> -- unflinching and moving forward to crucial challenges. that's gratifying. >> thank you, as ever, for your time. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> that was part one of my conversation with gnome chow 63,

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thanks for watching. we'll be back here on sunday at 8:00 p.m. eastern, and you can catch me on the streaming channel, peacock. now it's time to turn the evening over to joshua johnson. >> good evening. tomorrow president biden sits down with a bipartisan group of members of congress on the agenda, $2 trillion and millions of jobs. we'll have a review. there's bipartisan pushback to calls for an american-first caucus, but this rhetoric and the racial overtones is nothing new in american politics. we'll walk you through it. and we'll kick off climate change week with actor nikolaj coster-waldau from the "game of thrones." what do we do when gridlock