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and a good tuesday morning to you. craig melvin here from msnbc headquarters in new york city. and we are officially on verdict watch in the murder trial of derek chauvin. jurors could decide whether the former officer is guilty any moment now. right now we are entering the seventh hour of deliberations, and we should note so far jurors have not asked any questions of judge cahill. in just a few moments i will talk to george floyd's cousin who sat in the courtroom during testimony to see how she's feeling, how her family's doing as they and the nation await a verdict. just this morning george floyd's brother told us about a conversation with president biden. >> he was letting us know that he was praying for us and hoping that everything will come out to be okay. >> also this morning, it is a busy hour in washington. just a few minutes from now president biden and vice president harris will be meeting
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with leaders of the congressional hispanic caucus. moments from now congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez will reintroduce the new green deal. we await the starting of that ceremony. also a senate hearing called jim crow 2021. lawmakers digging into the right to vote. the message from witnesses like stacy abrams and others. we'll take a look at that in a few moments. we will start in minneapolis on verdict watch and shaquille brewster has been following every second of the murder trial. joining me once again from outside that heavily fortified courthouse in hennepin county there. what do we know where jurors are at in the process of deliberations? >> reporter: all we really know this is happening in private. they started deliberating at
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8:00 a.m. local time. they deliberated about four hours yesterday that process is continuing. the court has told us they will notify when jury deliberations begin for the day. they'll notify us when there's any break or stop deliberations, and then a heads-up if there are any questions from the pool reporters. if there's any questions from the jury, we won't expect to see the jury in that courtroom. instead, they'll be fed in via zoom so they'll appear virtually as they go through any questions but beyond that we don't know much. the court said that they have provided each juror with a laptop, for example, and a monitor. so they'll be able to go through the video evidence that we heard and saw throughout the testimony of the past couple of weeks. the timing is really up to the jury. this can go as long as or as short as they choose. as that's happening behind closed doors, we do know the tension in and around minneapolis is incredibly high. we heard from the governor declaring that peacetime state
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of emergency, 3,000 national guard members, are activated. we know the governor even asked for some assistance from the states of ohio and nebraska to help back fill some of their state troopers to provide security for the city. we know downtown as protests are still happening we saw sizable protests last night that remained peaceful throughout. no arrests reported by the police department. as you go through downtown businesses are boarded up. there's a collective sense when you go around and talk to people that people are holding their breath. no way to avoid this. a story in the "star tribune" how people are passing military vehicles on their morning commute and how that makes them feel. people know something big is coming, a verdict is coming, and it can happen any moment, any minute or hour, it's all up to the jury as they continue their deliberations, craig. >> that's right. shaq brewster on the ground for us there in minneapolis. once again we'll be checking in with you a great deal. right now i want to turn to
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a cousin of george floyd and also the president of the george floyd foundation. thank you so much for your time this morning. first of all, how are you doing? how is the family doing right now? >> i think we're doing pretty good all things considered. we're just waiting like everyone else to get the jury's verdict. for the last year we've been waiting for this moment and it's a matter of them letting us know what they decided at this point. >> the courtroom had a lot of restrictions because of the pandemic. only one family member could sit in the trial at a time, and you sat in at least one day i know. what was that experience like for you? >> it was -- i don't know if i could find one word to really describe it. i certainly felt privileged to be able to be involved in the
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process. it gave me a different perspective on everything. it actually was one of the best days since this whole process started because i was actually in court on the day when they showed the video from cup foods, and it was a time i actually saw when he was active and dancing and doing those things we remember him for. and so it was a good moment that quickly changed in the afternoon because that's when we started to see the body cam footage and, as i said before, it showed me that chauvin was a cold on callous person. >> shareeduh, what was it like sit that go close to him in the courtroom, just being in the proximity of the former officer there? and what did you make of his demeanor in court? >> well, that was actually my
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third time being in the same courtroom with him. so that particular time i had reached a point where he was there but he wasn't really there for me. in terms of his demeanor, it's never changed. i thought he was a heartless person, cold. he department seem to be moved by any of the testimony. the witnesses were, some of them, emotional and crying and he just remained the same stone-faced, cold and callous person i believed him to be from the very beginning. >> is there a part of you that wishes he would have testified, that we perhaps would have heard from him, have him answer or try to answer the myriad of questions that so many of us have? >> no, i actually didn't desire to hear anything from him. i don't think it would have been -- it would have added anything. i don't think he would have been
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truthful. the little bit that i heard from him actually when he had an exchange with mr. mcmillan said all i needed to hear him say to have the demeanor that he had after murdering somebody and then to, i think he said something like it's just your opinion or one person's opinion when he talked about mr. mcmillan spoke about how he felt he should not have done what he did to perry. >> i want to talk about the trial in general. how do you think the state did prosecuting its case? how do you think the defense did? >> i think the state did a tremendous job from the opening statements until the closing. i think they did a very good job of, you know -- obviously the video everyone thought gave us what more evidence did you need, but i think the way they broke it down in a lay person's terms so we could kind of understand
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what happened during that 9:29 was very effective. in terms of the defense, i mean, i thought he did the best he could with what he had. there really wasn't any defense. i thought he spent a lot of time talking about nothing. nothing new came out of anything i heard. we still arrived back at the same place, and that is the neck compression and the subdural restraint is what caused his death. >> shareeduh, you know, one of the things that's fascinated me about this trial from the beginning is it sparked this global movement, this racial reckoning, as it's been called, but there was no reference to race in that courtroom. they didn't reference it in the closing. do you think strategically that was a mistake at all? >> i don't. i don't think it was a mistake at all.
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i think probably people will read into that, and i think, like you said there's been enough said about that part that i don't think they needed to even infer. we know clearly that he was a white officer and my cousin, obviously, was a black man. the facts in and of itself were enough to drive that point home that what he did was murder. i don't think it made any difference. >> how confident are you that the jury is going to return a guilty verdict on all counts? >> i personally think there's enough there for them to do it but as i say all the time, it only takes one person to have that reasonable doubt. i don't think anything they presented did that. again, that's my position. i can tell you that i believe there's enough there for them to arrive at that decision immediately. when you place that in the
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jurors, it's in their hands. i'm as hopeful as i can be. it's the outcome i'm praying for and i'm just hoping that god delivers for me in this time just like he has done at other times. >> the last voice the jurors heard from attorney jerry blackwell. take a listen. >> you were told, for example, that mr. floyd died, he died because his heart was too big. and the truth of the matter is the reason george floyd is dead is because mr. chauvin's heart was too small. >> that is what he left the jury with. what did you make of that moment? >> i thought it was awesome. i had no idea that's what he
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would say but he summed it up quite nicely. what person could do that to another individual couldn't have much of a heart at all. i thought it was good. >> as you know we are all anxiously awaiting a verdict and there are a lot of cities on edge preparing for violence. do you have a message for folks across the country especially there in minneapolis as we all wait for this verdict to come down? >> i don't have a message for them per se but i do understand why some people feel the way they do, why they are angry, time and time again they've seen this play out. my thought process we've always been wanting it to come to a peaceful solution, but at the same time we understand why people are upset.
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>> shareeduh tate, we will leave it there. thank you. our thoughts continue to be with you and the family. best of luck. >> before that jury started deliberating we learned its final makeup, the judge dismissed two alternate jurors, both white women. seven women, five men, six white, four black, two identify as mixed race. former federal prosecutor, msnbc legal analyst, glenn, thanks for your time this morning, sir. from a legal perspective, do you share that sentiment, was it a smart move on chauvin's part? >> i think it was, craig. i've tried a lot of murder cases in the courts of washington, d.c. ordinarily defendants do not take the stand. they rely on the very high
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burden of proof beyond a reasonable doubt. and the defense attorneys will argue notwithstanding all of the evidence you saw presented by the prosecutors there's no way they met that very high evidentiary burden. when defendants take the stand they ordinarily end up hurting themselves because cross-examination is pretty wide open. we can begin to question the defendant about things like biases, prejudices. often the defense will open the door to other incidents in his life that a jury ordinarily wouldn't hear about because they might involve acts of uncharged misconduct inadmissible unless the defendant takes the stand and opens the door. this was the right call. it was the only call for somebody in derek chauvin's position to make, in my opinion. >> considering the jury or what we know about the jury, considering the gravity of the case, considering the evidence that was presented over the
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three-week period, glenn, how long do you expect these jurors will deliberate? >> well, i'll take on that fool's errand to try to predict how long a jury will be out before reaching a verdict. so let's just say in the courts of d.c. the average murder trial lasts about two weeks. now i've tried two-week murder trials where the jury has returned a verdict of 45 minutes. i've tried two-week murder trials where the jury remained out for three weeks deliberating. >> wow. >> so longer than the trial itself. what i saw of the evidence, craig, they proved all three crimes beyond a reasonable doubt. i saw evidence that satisfied every element of every one of those crimes. i think it was an expertly prosecuted case. so i would expect the jury could resolve the case in a matter of days. but with a jury, you never know. >> especially a sequestered jury. as you know judge cahill decided to sequester this group during
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the deliberations only. how could that affect the process? i know there's always some thinking when juries are sequestered there's a bit more to get home. >> the less of your routine life, if you can't go home to your friends, to your partner, to your family members, i think, you know, human nature being what it is, that might tend to hurry things along a little bit. now, that's not the purpose. the purpose is to avoid any outside influence, any contact with outside reporting, even inadvertent contact. but i have to believe that that will inspire jurors to want to resolve the case sooner rather than later. >> let's talk about the defense, that closing argument on monday took nearly three hours. the court had to take a lunch break in the middle of it.
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one of the defense's key points, glenn, to the jury was the state needed to convince them beyond a reasonable doubt that other factors like drug use, like george floyd's medical history did not cause his death. how does that argument hold up in your eyes? >> i think the defense, eric nelson, lost an opportunity. what he could have done was really embraced the testimony of the only medical examiner who actually performed the autopsy and had a first-hand informed opinion on the cause and matter of death, dr. andrew baker, the hennepin county medical examiner. he could have said, listen, dr. baker did not rule that this was an asphyxiational death. why do you think they buried him in the batting order and put all of these other witnesses who had
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less informed opinions on to try to explain what dr. baker said? i think rather than do that he just blasted his gunshot argument and said all of the prosecution expert witnesses were preposterous. and i think when you make that kind of an argument you tend to lose credibility with the jury. >> always good to have your insight and perspective especially on this one. thank you. again, folks, we're going to continue to obviously keep an eye out for any developments in the chauvin trial. jury deliberations this morning. coming up later i'll talk to the head of the minneapolis naacp about the mood on the ground in and around that city as we wait for a decision. any moment now we expect to see president biden sitting down with leaders of the congressional hispanic caucus. we'll take a look at what's on the agenda for that meeting and also the latest potential on the johnson & johnson vaccine. a pause in production at one factory. an update whether it can be used
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we are keeping a close eye on 1600 pennsylvania avenue, biden and harris meeting with leaders of the hispanic congressional caucus on concerns among hill allies about how to
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address immigration overall has been quite the tightrope walk. mike, this meeting follows a recent dust-up on the cap of the number of refugees allowed in the country. what does the white house want to come out of this meeting? >> for the white house they have one top priority at the moment which, of course, is making progress on that infrastructure and jobs bill but, then again, this biden administration has a lot of top priorities at the moment. you mentioned some of them, immigration reform, a top priority not just of the president but of the congressional hispanic congress that he'll be meeting with as well as a topic of conversation today and, yes, one of those ten members of the caucus that biden will be meeting with shortly here senator bob menendez, chairman of the foreign relations committee, was one reacting strongly friday about
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the refugee cap and even in his early weeks as president to lift from the trump-era levels and the white house explaining some of that yesterday. the trump administration -- what the white house says it intended to announce friday, what the focus was intended to be, was that it was reopening refugee admissions from certain muslim majority countries that had been banned in the trump administration. they announced, as they have on a number of fronts, because of what the trump administration did hollowing out key offices the number doesn't matter. if they don't have the resources and the personnel to do the vetting, all the steps necessary to bring refugees to american shores that almost doesn't even matter what the number is. certainly going to be a hot topic of conversation in this meeting. the press pool expecting to join
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that meeting has not gone in yet. >> the administration making a pretty substantial announcement backing a bill making washington, d.c., the 51st state. >> president biden a part-time resident of the district of columbia and the biden administration throwing its full support behind legislation hitting the house floor to make the district of columbia the 51st state. this statement saying the taxation without representation is a denial and an affront to the values on which our nation is founded. >> from the white house in our
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nation's capital. to former president george w. bush, he weighed in. the 43rd president took part in a naturalization ceremony on our plaza and moments before that ceremony he talked about the current climate and what president biden is facing in reforming our immigration system. >> it's a beautiful country we have but yet it's not beautiful when we scare people about immigration. it's an easy issue to frighten some of the electorate. i'm trying to have a different kind of voice. >> okay. if you were to describe the republican party as you see it today, how would you describe it? >> i would describe it as isolationist, protectionist and nativist. >> are you disappointed? >> it's not exactly my vision but i'm just an old guy they put
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out to pasture. >> president bush shared what he felt as he watched that insurrection unfold on january 6th at the capitol. >> kind of made me sick. not kind of, it did. i felt ill. i couldn't believe it. the truth of the matter is i was optimistic we would survive that. >> president bush this morning spent a fair amount of time on the rampant spread of misinformation. now that every american over 16 is eligible for the covid vaccine, it could make it harder for the seniors who still have not gotten their first dose. we have some new numbers from the cdc on just how many have gotten one shot. also, another setback for johnson and johnson's vaccine here in the united states and an update for its use overseas right after this. t after this ♪
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this morning more than 132 million americans have now gotten at least their first covid vaccine dose, but new covid infections have also jumped nearly 30% nationally. here are the latest facts, the cdc says 80% of seniors have had their first vaccine dose, but that means 1/5 of seniors have still not gotten one shot, and they're now competing with
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everyone 16 and older and every state to get that shot. the state department set to significantly increase its global guidance on where not to travel. they plan to extend warnings to 80% of countries up from just 16%. cases worldwide surging for the eighth straight week. federal regulators are dealing with another blow to the johnson and johnson covid vaccine. the fda has asked the emergent biosolutions factory in baltimore to temporarily stop producing materials for the vaccine. regulators are investigating the plant after it acknowledged ruining millions of doses. and the hearing comes as officials in europe say there is a possible link between the vaccine and rare blood clots, but the benefits outweigh the risks. nbc's ali vitale is outside that factory. i want to bring in foreign
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correspondent sarah harmon from london following the european medicines agency review of the johnson & johnson vac even. what more have we learned about that pause in production at the plant? >> reporter: craig, it's really important you say this is a production issue because it's separate from the issues j&j is dealing with with the pause regarding those potential links to rare blood clotting. that's a separate issue in usage and dissemination that is on pause. what's also on pause here is the way they're upping the supply chain. this plant here, emergent, was a subcontractor to j&j. back at the end of march we found out that 15 million doses of the vaccine were spoiled because of an ingredient mix-up here. then in the subsequent days the biden administration put the johnson & johnson company in charge of production at this facility. a week or so later the fda came
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back for an infection. and a few days after that, on friday, the fda asked emergent to stop manufacturing material here and to quarantine the existing vaccines that they have here. so while that pause is happening, johnson & johnson is also dealing with the fact that they are on the hook for 100 million doses due to the u.s. government. previously they had said that they were confident about having those doses done by the end of may but this certainly disrupts the supply chain. their cfo was on cnbc this morning talking about that disruption saying that it might be too early to see what the timing impact is going to be by the pause here at this plant but also speaking to the larger circumstances around when and if their vaccine can come back into usage. listen to how he put it. >> we are working with regulators to ensure they have all the information they need to make their assessments. we expect very shortly from europe as well as the u.s. fda
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as early as the end of this week to have resolution how we will proceed. we remain very confident and we're hopeful that the benefit/risk profile will play out. >> reporter: so, craig, a waiting game here at emergent as they hope to work with the fda on getting back in below deduction here and a waiting game for johnson & johnson as they await the fate of their vaccine both here in the u.s. that could come as early as friday. and over in europe. >> great segway there. what is the latest on that review of what's happening in europe? >> reporter: hi, craig. in the last half an hour we've learned the european medicine regulator says there's a possible link between the j&j vaccine and rare blood clots. they say the benefits outweigh the risks. take a listen. >> after a careful review of the cases of blood clots combined
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with low platelets reported after vaccination with johnson's covid vaccine, we have concluded there is a possible link between the occurrence of these blood clots combined with the low levels of blood platelets and the vaccination with the covid-19 vaccine johnson. the available data and the evaluation of this data revealed eight case reports of interest. >> reporter: now they are saying the benefits outweigh the risks. they are advising this very rare risk be added to the packaging material but, craig, more important is what they're not advising, not advising a pause, not even advising any sort of new requirements like age criteria or gender criteria be added to the vaccination. if you watched the astrazeneca review that we had here in europe, this is very similar. the vaccine is similar and the medicine regulators response is very similar. we know that johnson & johnson
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said they are committed to fulfilling that 200 million doses they had promised to the eu. 200 million doses is 200 million people fully vaccinated. those are shots the eu really needs. to put it bluntly they are far behind the u.s. but also britain in the vaccine campaign and today based on what the medicine regulator is saying no reason for those shots not to go ahead. craig? >> some good news there. sarah harman for us in europe. ali vitali, thank you. we'll get an update on what witnesses like stacy abrams had to say about the new laws like the one in georgia that make it more difficult for a lot of folks to vote. first, though, check this out. vice president kamala harris taking a seat on monday at the same woolworth's lunch counter where four black college students held one of the most famous sit-ins of the civil
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rights movement. the protesters known as the greensboro four, wouldn't give up their seats at that north carolina store back in 1960 even when they were refused service. it sparked dozens of other sit-ins across the country. that lunch counter is now on display at the civil rights museum in greensboro.
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goodwill. >> georgia's democratic senator warnock also addressed that same committee in the last hour. according to the latest tally by our "meet the press" team republicans have introduced more than 250 bills in 45 states that limit early in-person and/or mail-in voting. you have republican senators promoting false claims of election fraud in the past. with a democratic majority in the house and the upper chamber, albeit a much slimmer one obviously, what challenges lawmakers -- what are the challenges facing and passing the john lewis voting rights advancement act? >> the very same challenge they faced with passing s-1 for the people act. the fact the filibuster is still there and republicans seem all too happy to let state lawmakers soothe the base with voter fraud
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fighting bills despite the fact there isn't any evidence of the voter fraud to point to. now it's really interesting here, craig, these lawmakers focus on the unsustainability of it, how much donald trump's stolen election lie has sort of put this fight on steroids. i think we have sound from senator warnock on this. >> this is a full-fledged assault on voting rights unlike anything we have seen since the era of jim crow. the truth is politicians in their craven lust for power are willing to sacrifice our democracy by using the big lie as a pretext for their true aim. some people don't want some people to vote. >> this makes the case to put in some kind of proactive law the democrats want, the advancement act which would let the doj make the call on when states change their laws if it's not discriminatory and if it's good to put on the books essentially. >> all right, jane timm on that
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fight. thank you so much. meanwhile, representative alexandria ocasio-cortez officially reintroducing the new green deal happening as we speak. a live look at that news conference they are holding on the hill. the two progressive lawmakers originally introduced the resolution some two years ago. nbc's garrett haake is on the hill covering this for us. is this version of the green new deal different now the democrats have control of congress and the white house, or is it pretty much the same thing? >> reporter: well, it's bigger and more expansive but face as lot of the same political problems this version of the green new deal also includes new component pieces like launching a green climate core, like working to green properly public housing. representative ocasio-cortez laid out the scope of the program a few minutes ago. take a listen. >> it is going to be an
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all-hands-on-deck approach and we refuse to leave any community behind in the process. not only do we refuse to leave any community behind but those who have been left behind come first. >> reporter: the challenge for these lawmakers in an all hands on deck effort lack sufficient hands. you're dealing with a 50/50 senate, once again, a house that is very narrowly divided but the green new deal programs, as senator ed markey pointed out when he was making his remarks, of course, the senate co-sponsor of this, he talked about the green new deal ideas have been embedded into the dna like electrifying vehicles, spending hundreds of millions of dollars and getting into corporate culture like gm talking about moving to all electric vehicles in the future. so, again, the same political barriers to the green new deal
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exist, but the cultural landscape in which it's being discussed and its component parts brought forward is very different. >> we have representative ocasio-cortez and senator markey introduces this. what do we know of the support of this green new deal? >> reporter: in the biden administration's programs the infrastructure bill contains hundreds of billions for electric cars, for the economy things like paid family leave. the idea the biden administration is not fully behind as a package i think is something we know. whether there are elements of green new deal concepts that can pass in other pieces or can be embedded in other programs i think is something democrats expect to see from the biden administration. and we do see at least in the outlines of this infrastructure package that is still not a bill yet. just a set of priorities. >> excellent point. on the hill for us, thanks as always, sir.
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>> reporter: thanks, craig. people in minneapolis, around the country, around the world, waiting for that announcement that could come any moment now -- a verdict in the derek chauvin murder trial. when we come back, i'll talk to the head of the naacp in minneapolis about what she is watching for and what kinds of police reforms she wants to see now. excuse me ma'am, did you know that liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need? thank you! hey, hey, no, no, limu, no limu! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ ♪♪ (phone rings) hello? hi mommy, i won a medal. that's amazing! ♪ going back to the place we love ♪
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right now this is the view that we have main side in minneapolis where we have watched the trial of derek chauvin for weeks. at this moment the jury is still deliberating. that means they have been deliberating roughly 8 hours so far. as the city prepares for the verdict, activists are thinking about the long-term effect this trial could have on minneapolis and far beyond. angela is the president of the minneapolis chapter of naacp. how are the people feeling as we wait for this very dikt to come
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down? >> i think people are ready for action and recognize that the change we are seeking doesn't start nor end with the conviction of derek chauvin. so while the eyes of the world are on minneapolis. our eyes are on our state legislature, on the state licensing body for police officers. we are looking and seeking for our leaders to make change in this moment that is lasting and effective in regards to police reform and police legislation. >> the prosecution in its closing made it clear that this trial was not about policing, but about one officer's actions. there is a larger conversation that has happened there in your city about policing since george floyd died. what are some of the reforms specifically that you would like to see? >> ending qualified immunity. also one of the things we are
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pushing for right now at the state level is we are pushing for our state licensing body -- we have a people's petition, to take on first amendment public assembly, model policy statewide. currently minnesota does not have a policy that is statewide in response to public assemblies and protests so we are making sure that our first amendment rights and journalists, everyday people in the street are protected in this moment and for the future. that's one thing we are pushing for, for them to take on a state model policy in our police department. public assemblies and for the state board to revoke licenses for misconduct. they are yet to take a stand on
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revoking licenses of police officers who have shown -- we have cameras now so we have people filming misconduct, and start revoking those licenses. like in the case of kim potter who resigned recently after shooting daunte wright, if she were not to be convicted, she could walk into another police department in the state and still would be a licensed officer and could get another job. so we are asking for the board to start taking a stand and revoke licenses of police officers. >> angela rose myers. thank you. which we had time for more. president biden talked about the chauvin trial watch. meeting with hispanic kau tuss. -- caucuses. i want to bring mike back in.
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what did the president say? >> he spoke about the phone call you learned about this morning. the president calling george floyd's family yesterday. as the president put it, this is a family going through a lot. he can only imagine the pressure and anxiety they are going through. he noted the family is calling for peace and tranquility. also, he waited to make this phone call until the jury was sequestered. important for the president not to weigh in on the specifics of this case until that happened. we know this george floyd death last year really changed the way joe biden campaigned. when he left his home in bloomington during lockdowns was to meet with george floyd's family in houston. he talked about a conversation he had with george floyd's daughter which she told then candidate biden, my daddy
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changed the world. >> full disclosure, mike, i was in the room last night when that call came in last night from the white house interviewing the family for a dateline special. the president promised he would be calling again. >> -- this beautiful child, and his brother -- both brothers as a factor of fact. i can only imagine the pressure and anxiety they were feeling. so i waited in the the jury was sequestered and called. i wasn't going to say anything about it but they said on television, accurately, it was a private conversation because joe understands what it is like to go through loss. they are a good family. they are calling for peace and
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tranquility no matter what the verdict. i am praying the verdict is the right verdict. the jury is sequestered now and cannot hear me say that. i wanted to know how they were doing, personally. thank you very much for coming. >> president biden talking about the phone call that he had last evening with members of george floyd's family and their attorney crump. the president speaking with two of george floyd's brothers also, and his nephew as well. and significant others last night.
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mike is back with me. we should also point out vice president harris also speaking with the family this by phone we are told. you got the sense there, mike, the president is saying the evidence was overwhelming, the president stopping short of suggesting that the officer be convicted. >> it was interesting, craig. we know the president has been monitoring the trial. we don't know how much of the trial he paid attention to. it sounds like if he were part of the jury we know how he would vote on conviction. i think his comments and the fact he placed a call to the floyd family, speaks to the degree that the white house weighs in with other caucus meetings this week. depending on the verdict.
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we know he has been in touch with multiple officials as well as the department to prepare for the reaction to this verdict if and when it comes. we understand that we do expect to hear from the president once that verdict does come in, to address the nation. >> mike is there at the white house where president biden in a meeting with leaders of a hispanic caucus. a few moments ago talking about a phone call he had with george floyd's family, a phone call that lasted 15 minutes or so. the president promising another phone call once the verdict does come down. that will do it for me this hour. we will have much more on the verdict watch for the derek chauvin trial this afternoon. as we approach the noon hour, we can tell you the jury has been deliberating for eight hours. so far they have not asked any questions of judge cahill.
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much more when "andrea mitchell reports" starts right now. >> good day. this is andrea mitchell in washington as communities and law enforcement across the country away the verdict in the derek chauvin trial. we heard the comments much the president. he said he could only imagine the pressure and anxiety the floyd family is feeling. he also said he prays there is a right verdict. the jury is three hours into the second day of deliberations on the charge of second degre deplf national guard troops ahead

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