welcome to tuesday. we can do the fritz mondale's memories all day and it wouldn't be enough. but right now jury deliberations are under way in the murder trial of former officer derek chauvin. in minneapolis a heavily fortified hennepin county courthouse is the backdrop for a city with more than 3,000 national guard soldiers have flooded the streets. minnesota's governor is asking neighboring states for additional assistance. in philadelphia businesses are boarding up. for many stores, it is the fourth time this year they had to do something like this. in chicago illinois' governor is activating the state's national guard at the request of chicago mayor lori lightfoot. over the weekend thousands demonstrated in response to the shooting, release of the video of the shooting of a 13-year-old boy adam toledo.

in new york nypd officers have been instructed not to take days often until further notice. in washington the d.c. national guard activated approximately 250 troops. metro pd is at full activation posture with leave and vacation canceled for officers this week. and at the white house, president biden just told reporters he spoke to the floyd family and here's some of what he said about that call and the case. >> i can only imagine the pressure and anxiety they're feeling and so i waited until the jury was sequestered and i called. they're a good family. they call for peace and tranquility, no matter what the verdict is. i pray the verdict is the right verdict. it's overwhelming in my view. i wouldn't say that unless the jury was sequestered now, you would not hear me say that. so we just talked and i wanted

to know how they were doing personally. we talked about personal things. >> for nation on edge, local and national officials were preparing for demonstrations for a verdict in the chauvin trial. the hope, of course, all of these protests are peaceful. >> much of the great partnership that i have with sheriff hutchison, it's not my job or organization to keep his jails filled. operation safety net is not about arresting people. we want peaceful assembly. we want peaceful protests. we know we have a city that is mourning, that they're in grief. the last thing we want to do is turn this into an enforcement situation. >> equally as important is that rage that will be on the street regardless of what happens is channeled into a positive way and that positive way means change. we have to have that change. we can't live like this. we cannot continue to live like this. >> i won't prejudge anything that's going to happen this

week. i will only say if folks have feelings they want to express, do it peacefully. >> two of my nbc news colleagues join me from indianapolis. shaquille brewster has been covering the chauvin trial for us and ali velshi has been following the city's preparations for the protests after the death of daunte wright at nearby brooklyn center. and keith mays, professor of african-american studies at the university of minnesota. shaq, we've been -- this is the first full day of jury deliberations. they did deliberate a few hours yesterday. sometimes you find out they ask for certain pieces of evidence or things like that to look at. anything that we're hearing from the deliberation room? >> we haven't heard a peep, chuck. first thing we heard was this morning at about 8:00 a.m. we got word jury deliberations started for the day. the court had said they will tell us when things start, they will tell us when things end and

they will tell us if there's a verdict. we know as you mentioned if there's questions or problems or notes that come from the jury, there are pool reporters ready near the courtroom ready to go in if that comes to be and that has not happened just yet. we're moving at a pace that is determined by the jury. they have a lot of control at this point. and as that is happening on the inside as the jury can deliberations are happening behind closed doors, you mention that collective sense of waiting not only here in minneapolis but across the country. specifically here in minnesota, 3,000 national guard members are activated and ready and deployed. you go around, move around minneapolis, you see those armed vehicles. we also talked about the boarded-up windows and buildings in the downtown area and many places that experienced damage last time. and this is affecting school children, chuck. the minneapolis public school system announced there will be virtual learning for the rest of the week for many of the

students here. no after-school programs. childcare canceled. this is having a widespread impact. i will tell you many people are holding their breath but for different reasons. for some people it's the outrage and response and reaction to the verdict. but for other people, it's the concern of the verdict. there are other people who are skeptical of what they consider the right verdict to be, especially from what you heard from president biden. many people just want a conviction on the murder charges and holding their breathe fearing that's not what they will receive. >> shaq, the decision by the defense to try to elevate the maxine waters comments, which it sort of has taken off in political circles, but then showed up in the courtroom yesterday and it certainly seems to have given the defense new york city matter what happens, they're going to end up quoting the judge if they don't like the verdict. >> that's exactly right. we've seen outside events influence what happened in the courtroom before. remember that record $27 million settlement between the city of

minneapolis and floyd family. two jurors who were seated were actually dismissed after that. you heard the judge experience that similar frustration. let's play a little bit of that sound. what we heard judge cahill say yesterday in the courtroom after eric nelson mentioned a congresswoman -- he didn't even name her at the time, he said a congresswoman came and in his words threatened violence. people defending maxine waters say she was just calling for people to become more engaged and continue protesting. listen to what the judge said in reaction to eric nelson's request for a mistrial. >> i will give you maxine waters' comment may have given you something on appeal to overturn this. but this goes back to what i have said from the beginning. i wish the elected officials would stop talking about this case, especially in a manner that is disrespectful to the rule of law and judicial branch and our function. >> just to be clear what she

said, she was in brooklyn center on a bull horn saying, i couldn't sleep. i have been staying up all night because mr. wright didn't deserve to die. and then when asked about a not guilty verdict, she said we've got to stay on the street, more active and we've got to get more confrontational and we've got to make sure they know we mean business. of course, speaker pelosi is defending those comments saying she's someone who came from the civil rights movement. it was very clear what she was meaning to say. but you have house republican leaders and senate republican leaders saying she is calling for violence and that is the tone you also heard eric nelson bring up in the courtroom to the judge. >> right, right. a lot of selective quoting here on this issue right now. shaquille brewster getting us started. shaq, thank you. let me go over to ali velshi. ali, you were on the ground during the protests right after the death of george floyd.

what are you seeing now? do you see them preparing in ways that show they may have learned something from what happened last summer? >> yes, both police and protesters are doing that. give you an example of national guard posted on the downtown corner at fifth street near nicollette mall. this is usually a busy downtown area. it's been less busy because of the coronavirus. but you can see the boarding up of places. there are no police on leave now. everybody is called in. when you see police going down the street, you usually see them in 2w0 cars with a national guard officer. where you see protesters on the street, you're not seeing police interaction with them. where there's interaction with the courthouse, for instance, or brooklyn center, about ten miles north of here where daunte wright was shot, there are two lines of fencing in front of the police station. so there's no interaction between police and national guard and civilians protesting. let me give you an example right

here of what we're looking at. this is a boarded-up business but you see the door is still available and they can open it. there's a lock here. a lot of businesses are like this. you go inside, they will lock the door 4i7d you but trying to stay open. schools here are open today. thursday -- wednesday, thursday and friday, they said it will be remote learning. no kids will go to school. same thing in brooklyn center. so there's a lot of tension. i will tell you last night there was a fairly good size demonstration downtown but it was marshalled. they had people on the sidewalks here. protesters were coming down the street, and if they got on the sidewalk, meaning the opposing property, the marshals would push them back to the street. if they got too far ahead or behind, they ushered them. so there's a high sense of organization even about the protests going right now and that's where we stand as we await this verdict. >> ali velshi, i really appreciate it, on the ground there for us.

let me bring in keith mays. keith, first, i'm curious your reaction to president biden's comments. look, this is interesting he tried to emphasize, hey, i didn't say anything until the jury was sequestered. some are saying he shouldn't have said anything until after the verdict was in. like the judge said, a lot of politicians, you wish they would wait. but what did you make the president's decision to speak out? >> i mean, i thought it was spot on, chuck. the politicians are elected by the people, and they are in many ways responsible to the people. they have every right to speak out. maxine waters what she said wasn't problematic to me. i think president biden was trying to be thoughtful and responsible and showing leadership skills.

to suggest that, he's the president of everyone, on all sides here. i didn't think there was anything wrong with that, chuck. but what i'm afraid of is bury the decision by the jury. so if there's an acquittal or hung jury and social unrest begins to take place, i think that will capture the headlines and we will be talking about law and order and we will be talking about security and not the injustice that took place. so i'm concerned. we are holding our collective breaths because based on the decision of the jury, we will begin to tell a different story. either we will tell the story this was the beginning of a new day when it comes to law enforcement and when it comes to racial politics and racial issues as we move into hopefully a better day, or we will be telling a different story, how people are looting, how people

are protesting in the streets. so, again, the fate of the future is in the jury's hands, chuck, right now. >> you know, it's funny, i have a friend of mine who said to me, as optimistic as they might be at how this situation has played out, they believe accountability could happen. for the first time, a friend of mine said i was impressed with the police. that the blue wall broke, if you will, with the chief testifying. but this friend of mine just assumes the appeals process is going to go the other way and that's the ultimate protection that happens. it was -- it was in some ways i understand that sort of dread that my friend has on just because history has proven those predictions true. where is your head on this? >> listen, chuck, i mean, your friend was spot on. even if we get a conviction, we

will still have to live with this, chuck, for the next three, six, nine, maybe one year afterwards when all of the appeals begin to take place. this will get bounced up if he's convicted through the court of appeals or convicted again or if he's found not guilty, it may be over but, certainly, this could easily end up in the minnesota supreme court. so i think for us, who are sort of holding our breaths, we may be holding this collective breath for another six months to a year. so where does that leave us, chuck? it leaves us in the same place, we don't receive justice, that any kind of reforms that are now on the table that could take place may be put on hold because the cases have not been resolved. so i think your friend is absolutely right. appeals process can work both

ways. they can work on the benefit of the defendant or the prosecution. but we will see what happens. this is not over just because the jury will render its verdict later on this week or even today for that matter. >> i didn't -- it didn't go -- i notice that the governor right after daunte wright was killed, the governor seemed to express some frustration that police reform had been sort of sitting around the minnesota legislature. and you just sort of made a point that i wanted to ask you in a question but you may have already answered it, which it does seem as if there's always -- we have to tackle police reform, but let's wait. we have to tackle police reform but let's wait for this investigation or this trial to end. we've got to wait -- guess what happens? you never have it picked up. what is going on here, and why wasn't a police reform -- larger police reform bill able to pass the minnesota legislature?

>> i think because of the electoral politics. i think because of the politics of right and the left. i think because what people see as an appropriate response to the abuses of law enforcement. and what are reasonable calls from the community to overhaul and change? we get caught up in the strong verbs, abolish, defund. but behind those strong verbs, chuck, are some really, really serious calls to really transform law enforcement in the state. and i think people pay lip service to it. they really don't want to do it. i think it was $12 million that was given after of castillo case. we don't know how that money is being spent in terms of police training. and i call this the serve and volley of not only protest politics but electoral politics as well. we just somehow will find a way

not to change the status quo. so maxine waters' remarks in brooklyn center are apropos. we have to stay out on the streets protesting and advocating until we receive the change we want to see. >> keith mayes, professor from the university of minnesota, somebody who's been -- we counted on to give us some perspective from the ground there, always appreciate your perspective with us. so thank you, keith. >> thank you, chuck. appreciate it. we have breaking news involving yet another shooting in america. the whole country on edge, it's understandable why we're all so nervous. a manhunt is under way in new york right now as authorities moments ago told reporters they're searching for a 31-year-old man who they believed opened fire at a stop and shop in long island grocery store killing employees and killing two others. authorities released his photo and know his name moments ago.

they said he fled the scene and is still armed with a handgun. they believe he worked for the stop & shop at some point and, in fact, may still be employed. >> we do have a person of interest. his name is gabriel dewitt wilson. best picture i can give you now is on noin, gabriel dewitt wilson. date of birth, 2/17/1990. he's got long beach and hempstead addresses. he was or may still be an employee of the stop & shop. we're not sure. we're trying to confirm that now. we have over 150 assets out here right now looking for mr. dewitt to question him about the events that occurred here today. >> obviously remains a very fluid situation. police are asking area residents to remain indoors as they search for the suspect. we will be keeping a close eye on the story and bring you any

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basically 80% of the world, citing an unprecedented risk to travelers. that's a big, big, do not fly list. and india is the global epicenter for the virus, accounting for one-third of the world's daily cases. they're facing shortages of icu beds and oxygen. vaccines are also in short supply. meanwhile here at home the cdc said half of all adults in the united states received at least one dose of the coronavirus vaccine. the biden administration can end up hitting its goal of 200 million shots in the first 100 days as early as tomorrow. so basically about a week ahead of schedule. that said, in another setback for vaccinations in this country, manufacturing is now paused at a facility in baltimore that makes ingredients for the already-paused johnson & johnson vaccine. the fda requested the pause while it investigates the emergent biosolutions facility that botched millions of johnson & johnson vaccines.

ali vitali is in baltimore outside of that plant. ali, this is a plant that has been a problem that goes back to last fall. this seems to be a consistent issue with this specific plant. is it -- at some point is it worth even still trying to get it up and running? >> i think our friends at johnson & johnson would probably argue yes, because remember, chuck, they're on the hook for 100 million doses to the u.s. government. in the official aftermath, when we heard about these 15 million botched doses, j&j was pretty clear, they felt confident they would still be able to provide 100 million doses by the end of may. i did notice today though as their cfo was on cnbc and they did their earnings call, they still say they're confident they're going to get to 100 million doses. but gone is the specific rhetoric about the end of may. you will remember too when the biden administration first announced this deal for 100 million doses of johnson & johnson, it was in addition to

millions of shots that were also going to be coming from pfizer and moderna, basically trying to get all of these different vaccines marching in lockstep as more and more americans were able to get vaccinated. now here we stand where everybody american is eligible and johnson & johnson is playing the waiting game on two fronts. you're right this facility is on a pause while the larger usage of this vaccine is also paused, waiting for the cdc and fda recommendation on how they can proceed going forward. but for this specific plant at least, listen to how the cfo talked about what this could mean in terms of the overall timing and production coming out of this facility. >> we are in a very good position assuming the regulatory process goes as we expect. we will certainly do our part to make sure that we have a favorable outcome there. should that go well, we will be in position to meet our contractual commitments. >> so, chuck, that's the waiting game they're saying they're confident about here on the

ground in baltimore. they will probably hear recommendations as early as friday, according to what dr. fauci has said. >> is there a -- there was a time, is this still a plant that johnson & johnson runs or part of the partnership the u.s. put johnson & johnson together with i believe it was merck? >> right, exactly. so back when we first heard about the botched doses, that was at the end of march, a few days later the biden administration said that this was now going to be a facility that johnson & johnson was taking over and they were going to be more in control of the quality control issues here. you're right that this is a plant that had quality control issues, some training issues, dating back into 2020. now that we're at this point in it, that's why j&j is so involved, it's something the biden administration intervened in really quickly and the fda stepped in right after that. they did their inspection early last week and they said on friday that all of the doses need to be quarantined that are

already made here and production needs to stop for now. >> ali vitali on the ground for us in baltimore, thank you. up next -- the pentagon now warns russia deployed more troops to the ukraine border than it did in 2014 when the country annexed crimea, setting off alarm bells far and wide.

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welcome back. we've got military and diplomatic developments today as tensions escalate with russia. the pentagon said the number of russian troops deployed near ukraine's quarter subtly doubled the last few weeks and is now larger than when crimea was there in 2014. they say the buildup includes tanks, aircraft and naval ships in the black sea. and satellite images show russia expanding its military buildup along its border with ukraine. the photos were taken between march 27th and last friday by maxar technologies, which provides images to the united states and other western countries. they appear to show russia has moved warplanes to bases near ukraine. and in the ongoing diplomatic country between the u.s. and russia, the u.s. ambassador is coming home temporarily, four days after the kremlin suggested washington recall him. joined now by helene cooper, who covers the pentagon for "the new

york times". and i guess it sort of -- last week, it seemed as if -- and i didn't know if it was part of the biden/putin phone call, but the russians seem to send word to say we're just doing a military exercise. we will receive soon. it's over in a couple of weeks. don't send any ships to the black sea. and the u.s. apparently took them at their word. do i have this timeline correct? >> yea, that's about correct. the u.s. so far has been taking russia at et cetera word, but at the same time pentagon officials talk about these what they call triggers. and they have actually a list of ten things that sort of signal this there could be another invasion of ukraine coming. on that list is you move a whole

bunch of assets to the region, which russia has done. the you move a whole bunch of war ships to the region, which russia has done. you move a whole lot of soldier and tanks and assault troops, which russia has done. what russia hasn't done so far is moscow has not put any support stuff, you know, all of the logistical stuff any army needs to survive, the hospitals, the logistics, the stuff in order to invade a country, you're going to kind of need in order to sustain a big invasion. moscow hasn't done that yet, which is part of the reason why pentagon and biden officials so far say that, you know, we don't believe -- we're going to take them at their word, a large invasion isn't coming but at the same time they're looking out for it and they do think that chances are higher now 245 you can see a smaller type of russian incursion into ukraine and that is because of a

little-known water crisis that is going on right now. when russia first annexed crimea back in 2014, ukraine cut off the water flow from the river into crimea. so crimea for the past seven years since that annexization had a huge water crisis. ukraine cut off 90% of the water they were pumping into crimea, which is normally a pretty air id region. moscow has been spending billions of rubles so far to make up to get to the point because right now the water supply in crimea is rationed. so that is something that the pentagon is very worried they're keeping a -- looking at the area for where you have this deep a river coming over the border into crimea and russia, maybe trying something there in order to seize control of that water source again. that's an area of big concern as

well. >> i'll tell you, more proof water is the next -- really replacing oil as a commodity that people might be willing to fight wars over but that also sounds like an ott plot line to "yellowstone," those who watch that will be familiar. helene, there was another angle for the russians and that is what happened with georgia. they're waiting for an excuse to act. how much of a concern is that? >> that's always a concern with moscow. you're seeing all of this brinksmanship going on between putin and biden to begin with. it looks like we're looking at a relationship where they're going to pretty much hate each other. president biden calling vladimir putin a killer a month ago. that didn't go over very well. you see the rhetoric really escalate. and you have right now the situation where you have a president biden who looks at vladimir putin as somebody who

did try to -- to influence the american elections. the sanctions that went into place last week against russia, that's going to be a big deal for the relationship between moscow and washington. and we're edging now -- i don't want to say a new cold war because i think that is hyperbole, but things are getting chillier and chillier and that one -- at some point it feels as though something will have to happen. either the two of them will have to get together or dial things back a little or we're just going to continue this brinksmanship that we seem to be in the middle of. >> helene, is there any evidence -- i know we decided not to send this military ships into the black sea. what about nato, how have they been responding to this? >> nato is really worried. as you know, ukraine wants to get into nato and russia isn't having it. they will say officially we're

moving towards ukraine becoming a member of nato. they're not a member right now so you don't have the collective self-defense issue that you have with other places. and that's one of the reasons why russia will do everything it can to stop ukraine from getting into nato. i think if russia does go ahead with something, some sort of smaller invasion or a larger-type incursion over the border, you're going to have to ask the question of what will the pentagon in particular do, what will the united states do? so far the united states has given the ukraine government and ukraine military defensive type of equipment. we've been very careful not to give them any offensive because we don't want to rile russia anymore. so you're going to see the question being asked then of how much further can we go? >> right. helene cooper, pentagon correspondent for "the new york times," really always appreciate your expertise and perspective

here, helene. thank you. >> thank you. i want to take a moment to remember a longtime force in american politics and, of course, the democratic party. he's a man known both for his decency and for reinventing the role of the presidency. walter mondale died last night at his home in minneapolis. known to many as fritz, mondale was a senator from minnesota before becoming jimmy carter's running mate in 1976. mondale was the first vice president to have a west wing office and weekly scheduled lunches with the president. then vice president joe biden credited mondale as the role model for how he did the job working for barack obama. mondale talked about transforming the presidency on the "meet the press" 30th anniversary special in 1977. >> i think the role that the president has permitted me to play is unprecedented in american history. i'm privy to all of the classified and secret information. i serve on the national security council and all of its subcommittees.

i serve on all of the crucial policy committees, and i have virtually unlimited access to the president. i think that is unprecedented. i think the president has been very kind and gracious to me. i find it a great challenge. and something that i'm most grateful for. >> the carter/mondale ticket lost in 1980 and mondale became the presidential nominee against then president ronald reagan in 1984. he selected new york congresswoman geraldine ferraro as his running mate, first woman to be touted for that role. they lost in a landed slide carrying only his native minnesota and washington, d.c. mondale would later serve as clinton's ambassador to japan and, of course, a last-minute candidate for a minnesota senate seat in 2002 following the death of paul wellstone. and a final note to his former staffer, mondale wrote this on monday, just hours before he died. before i go, i wanted to let you know how much you mean to me. never has a public servant ever had a better group of people

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texas senator john cornyn over the weekend suggested $800 billion. and a package that's $1.2 trillion less than the biden plan if you're counting at home. and that may be too big to get a wide enough backing of republicans. and when it comes to it, republicans don't want to raise the corporate tax rate. but those who have taken the lead to draft the republican offer have made that a nonstarter and talking about some sort of user fees. joining me now, someone in the office with us yesterday, a former governor of florida, charlie crist. congressman crist, good to see you. >> good to see you, chuck. how are you doing? >> good. give us the best observation you can give us inside that room. what is the divide -- how big is the divide between the two sides in your view, and how much of it seems -- how much of it is too

big? is the divide more on scope of the package or how to pay for it? >> you know, that's a great question, chuck. i think that a couple observations if i might. there was a great spirit of bipartisanship in that meeting yesterday. republicans, democrats, independents, and i thought that was very important for the tone. you talk about what's the difference, is it going to be the matter of numbers in terms of the scope of the bill, $800 billion as you mentioned from senator cornyn and then all the way to $2.1 trillion from president biden. i think it's going to be at the higher end. i think the president is cognizant of the fact that we're in a deep problem here. a lot of people are still out of work. it's shifting more to a jobs plan, frankly, instead of an infrastructure plan as he mentioned yesterday. and we talked about the everglades here, a floridian, the everglades in florida, how

important that would be in terms of infrastructure. 8 million of my fellow floridians get our fresh water from the everglades. we also touched on solar energy, how important that is not only from the sunshine state that i'm from but also the country for renewable energy. you see what a beautiful day it is here in washington, to have that kind of renewable energy, wind, as you mentioned water replacing oil as an important material to the future of the world, as was described in the earlier report. i think there's a lot of climate change issues that are going to be part of this infrastructure plan, this jobs plan, and i'm encouraged by that. when i was talking about the everglades, carlos jimenez, the former mayor of miami-dade county chimed in and said i agree with charlie about the everglades in florida. this is something that ought to be included in the infrastructure package, jobs package. but we differed a bit how to pay

for it, talking about the corporate tax and some other items. >> you and i can go off on a tangent. good luck trying to use solar power in florida. there's a regulatory bottleneck and if you're an individual trying to do it, basically it's being discouraged. but i won't get there. >> you can indeed argue that. >> it seems to be designed to prevent you from actually having solar panels if you want them. but let me ask you about the group of people that were there. no disrespect, but governors and mayors are the most reasonable -- and i say this with no disrespect. that was a little tongue in cheek. these are the most reasonable people you will find in congress. why? you all have to deal with city councils or legislators. you all had to deal with basically corralling the person farthest away from you but that you still needed their vote so you understand this ability. i hate to put it this way, isn't

that the wrong group of people? your group is not big enough to be bipartisan, is it? >> i think it's good to hear from those voices though. your point is well taken. one experience that i have with president biden, when i was governor, we had the great recession. not great at all, as a matter of fact. but president obama, i was then a republican and he a democrat, invited me to go to ft. myers to be with him to literally embrace the stimulus package at the time. i did so, reaching across the aisle because i thought it was important, and you're right. your more pragmatic as a mayor and governor. you have to find the path forward in order to get the right things done for the people at large, for all of the people. as i used to say when i was elected as a republican as governor before, i wasn't elected governor of the republicans of florida, i was elected for the people of florida. that's how a mayor thinks and

how president biden is thinking. he's doing an extraordinary job and he kept a great tone during our meeting yesterday, listening to everyone, looking everyone in the eye, getting their feedback and the stories they had to share about when they were a mayor at one place or another and had an issue to deal with and find compromise to get it done. and that was the bottom line and that was important. >> i guess what is the plan -- you've had firsthand experience. how do you have that conversation with an elected official who says, you know what, you're making a good point but my voters aren't going to believe it? >> that's typical. but i believe in people, and i believe that most people are pretty rational. there's extremes on both ends. we both know that. that's just something we're living with. but by and large, most people believe in the same kind of things. they want a good education for their kids, a clean environment for our society, safe streets

for our people and opportunity to excel economically if you had those god-given abilities. so we're really not that far apart. i think we can come up with good compromise. one example is talking about the percentage of corporate tax. maybe going up to 28% according to the president's proposal. maybe not want to get that high from some of the republicans in the senate. time will tell, but i think we can get to a good place. we have to, really, for the american people. >> republicans are turning their fire on your colleague maxine waters for comments she said about the derek chauvin trial. where do you stand on this? do you have any issue with what she said, and do you think the republicans are upset in good faith? >> it didn't sound to me like she was advocating violence. she said we need to be present, we need to show up, we need to express our views and that's

appropriate. that's called freedom of speech when i went to law school and the first amendment. that's important for people to be reminded of, peaceful protest is fine, it's part of our american heritage. it's what gives us our voice dis that be at the time and it should never be violent, obviously, what we experienced back here on january 6th, but, my god, to silence people and not have them be able to express their point of view, we don't want to go there either, and there's a balance that needs to be nonviolent and productive and peaceful. that's what we have to look for. a big decision in the trial coming up soon, i pray as the president is for peace and calm. >> congressman, charlie crist, democrat from the tampa area, thank you. >> my pleasure. up next, electric vehicles

could be a major key to tackle the climate crisis, but won't be easy getting them up and running. we'll explain, next.

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the infrastructure plan the white house is proposing pushes $174 billion for electric vehicles. currently electric vehicles make up less than 2% on the road in the united states according to the data. we have an an exclusive inside look at a plant in lordstown, ohio. >> if you think about it, chuck, if you wanted to go out today and buy a union made electric vehicle, you can't do that. if you even go to buy a tesla, the batteries are made from asia. and while the signals the federal government is sending through its own purchasing power is important, but what is really happening right here, what the auto industry is doing by signaling a different direction that will hasten this shift.

inside the old cells which is going to be about the size of 30 football fields, we talked to executives that said they are designing battery cells that can be stacked in pouchs and you can have the same battery cells going into an electric cadillac or an electric hummer. they hope creating those new options will make it possible for more consumers to choose electric vehicles over gas gusling combustion engines that make up about one-third of our greenhouse gas emissions, and when you think about the politics here, chuck, it was president president trump that promised jobs coming back to the assembly plant that shuddered here two years ago, and now it's one of the largest in the country because they think the modern consumer tomorrow will

want an electric vehicle, chuck. >> i think we certainly have all learned we need to have the supply chain be as domestic as we can make it, as you described there in the beginning. joshua, thank you with the important aspect of all of this. thank you all for being with us this hour, and we will be back tomorrow with more "meet the press daily," and msnbc's coverage continues with katy tur right after this break. right after this break ♪ (ac/dc: back in black) ♪ ♪ ♪

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