daunte, because you're the prince that made us all come together. they stopped traffic today all the way through minneapolis, folk couldn't drive nowhere because they had to say hail to the prince. they shouldn't have done what they done. we going to stop minneapolis today because a prince is on his way to his rest. and as you rest, there's a resting place. there's a martyr's bench, take your seat, daunte. tell george floyd who you are. take your seat, daunte, shake hands with philando castillo. take your seat -- take your seat next to oscar grant because there's a special place in heaven for those that shed innocent blood because god will use you to straighten out the

world, the world will never be the same because we are going to stand up for situations like this. we do not in any way condone or incite violence. people say, reverend, why don't you tell people not to be violent? we always have. but when are you going to start telling policemen to stop being violent? problem is not us talking to our youth. the problem is you talking to your bad cops. now, all cops are not bad. i saw ten get on the stand the other day and testify against another policeman. that's why i know change is here. when you see the blue wall of silence tumble in a courtroom in

minneapolis, when policemen understand that they are committed to the oath rather than to their colleague, that's when we know a break through is coming. that's when we know we can pass the george floyd bill because folk are not going to lie on you no more. and next time you get ready to pull your gun, next time you get ready to bend your knee, put in your mind the picture of the man taking the handcuffs and making chauvin put his hands behind his back and walk into a penitentiary and learn that you will pay for the crimes you commit. as i talked to the family, they said the real reason they stopped was because his tags had

expired. well, i come to minnesota to tell you your tags have expired. your tags of racism has expired. your tags of police brutality has expired. your tags of white supremacy has expired. your tags of looking at us different than everybody else has expired. your tags have expired. it's time to renew and get some new tags. a tag of righteousness. a tag of fairness. a tag of treating everybody the same way. a tag of no justice, no peace. . lastly, when i come to minneapolis three days after

george floyd was killed, lynched by the knee, i went to one of the marches and i saw almost as many whites as blacks. now your children are doing what you wouldn't do, standing up for justice. we called martin luther king iii and i -- we called a march in washington, august 28th, anniversary of his father's march. people told me don't call it, it's a pandemic, it's going to be a superspreader. 204,000 people came. we tested them all. we did all we were supposed to do to see what way we could avoid any breaking out of covid

coming in. and we marched. around the george floyd justice and policing act. we marched around the john lewis voting act because they're trying to turn back voting rights. those tags done expired, too. that ain't going to happen no more. we marched all over. marched for breonna taylor whose boyfriend is here with us today. some went and stayed down there and stood up for breonna. going to get ready to march for pamela turner on may 13th. your tags have expired. we going to stop by north carolina where a young man was shot yesterday. we will look in columbus, ohio, your tags have expired.

we going to wherever you show up because your tags have expired in the name of the prophet isaiah. we are not going to be quiet as long as there is no justice. i want you to know this bible that you claim you believe in, you need to stop quoting it and start reading it. it's a bible of justice. if you don't understand it, talk to some of us that read it straight. i know y'all had a president that holds it upside-down, but turn it rightside-up. because if you turn it right-side up, and you get to the end of the book, at the end of revelations god made a

promise, god made a promise, he said the first shall be last. and the last shall be first. and the lion and the lamb will lay down together. and god will take care of his children. god will make a way out of nowhere. god will heal the lamb. god will take care of daunte now. stand up and be what we were born to be. we are not anyone's slaves. we're the children of god. we're the children of god. we're the children of god. before we leave, and we're going

to leave orderly, we're going to have the family go out first, y'all that just became family for a day, all of y'all became cousins today. we want the family first. but we want some of those that have come to recognize the princely estate that we're here, and to give proclamations. they ought to be here, whether you agree with them or not, they should be here to respect who he was and what he stood for. i read he was the center when he played basketball in school.

now he's the center of a movement of god. i want his brothers and sisters to keep your mother and father covered because it won't be long before these crowds will be gone. philando can tell you, everyone is here when the camera is here. when the cameras go, a lot of your new cousins ain't going to be there. y'all going to have to keep the family together. this policewoman is charged. you going to have to go through a long trial. and they'll try things to not have a trial. but stay by your mother and father. some of us will be here and others will come when the cameras come back. i don't worry about the cameras. i got my own tv show. i ain't trying to get on tv.

but stay strong and stay together. i saw aunty on tv. she preached better than any preacher. stand up, aunty. i want us to hear some proclamations and words. let me start with another one that had been smeared. that got tested and they passed the test. let us hear from our congresswoman, ilhan omar.

>> thank you, reverend al sharpton for being here and for that beautiful eulogy. most of us in this room, including myself, look at you as a guardian and are blessed to be in your presence. and may daunte wright serve as a guardian for all of us. as a member of the congressional black caucus, as one of the youngest and newest members of the congressional black caucus i also have guardians. congresswoman sheila jackson lee, and our chairwoman, joyce

beatty serve as guardians for me and many of my colleagues. joyce beatty was going to be here and speak on behalf as the chairwoman of our caucus, just like we've been visited by tragedy here in minnesota, she in columbus, ohio, was visited by a tragedy of a young woman whose life was taken by columbus police. and so i wanted to read a little bit of the resolution of congressional condolences that our guardian, congresswoman sheila jackson lee filed on behalf of our son, daunte wright here in minnesota.

whereas daunte demetris wright attended thomas edison high school in minneapolis, which i'm an alum of, and blaine high school in blaine, minnesota. after high school he studied at the university of minnesota, twin cities in minneapolis. daunte demetris wright had a son born in july of 2019. daunte demetris wright named his son daunte demetris wright jr., and we are today comforted by the words of our lord in the revelation 21-4, which says and god shall wipe away all tears from their eyes, and there shall be no more death. neither sorrow nor crying,

neither shall there be any more pain for the former things that passed away. no words can really help ease the -- ease the -- no words can really help to ease the loss you bear. just know that your family and friends are very close in every thought and prayer. may the outpouring of sympathy, the kinds of acts of friends and strangers, the comfort in knowing that your loss is felt by many help you through this.

daunte demetris wright brought great joy to his family and his life was a blessing to all who had the privilege to know him. daunte demetris wright is survived and cherished by his father, aubrey wright, and his mother, katie wright, and his son, daunte wright jr. a host of family and friends. and his legacy will live. we also wanted to present this to his mom and dad, if you all can come. we flew a flag over the united states capitol on behalf of your

son. i wanted to present the flag to you. >> let them stay here a minute. we got something else to present them. all of this they deserve. when george floyd was killed and we wanted the best prosecution,

my mentor, reverend jesse jackson and i called the governor and the governor talked to the d.a. who graciously stepped back and allowed the attorney general to be the prosecutor that did such a great job. the governor is here with us today with a proclamation from the state. >> as governor of minnesota on behalf of the entire state and our population, we extend our deepest condolences to the wright family. and issue the follow proclamation to honor the life and memory of daunte wright. whereas daunte wright was beloved by his family, neighbors and community and had his entire young life ahead of him, we

mourn that loss. we know that this tragedy is connected to the deep and systemic racism in our society that black people in minnesota and across this country face every single day. while nothing will bring daunte wright back to his loved ones, we must continue to enact real meaningful change at the local, state and national levels to fight systemic racism so that every single person in minnesota, black, indigenous, brown and white can be safe and thrive. we must be steadfast in our accountability to change from the top to the bottom and not rest until we create a different future for daunte wright's son and every other child like him. now therefore, i tim walsh, governor of minnesota, ordered a moment of silence for two minutes across the entire state of minnesota at 12:00 p.m. on thursday, april 22nd, to honor the life and memory of daunte wright and his family and friends as they lay him to rest and remember that every person whose life has been cut short

due to systemic racism and discrimination will not be forgotten. >> in order to pass the george floyd bill that has already passed the house, we need to pass it in the senate. we have an advocate from the senate, your senator in minnesota, senator amy klobuchar. >> thank you so much, reverend al. thank you, bishop howell, for allowing me to join you in this sacred space. thank you to mr. and mrs. wright

in asking me to close out by saying a few words in your son's memory. i don't have a proclamation to give or a piece of paper. i've got a proclamation in the senate, and that we must pass the george floyd justice and policing act. you know, there's a photo of your son, of daunte, that many americans have seen by now. he's standing outdoors on a sparkling day, holding his son, daunte jr., and he's got this big smile on his face. that smile that you said, katie, would light up the room. we see the lively, outgoing young man who always made people laugh. who was lovingly voted class clown his freshman year by his high school class.

we see daunte's radiant love for his family as he holds his baby boy. in the photo daunte jr. wears a colorful bib with polka dots and a bowtie with first birthday printed in cheerful letters across the front. that's when we see the enormous hole that daunte leaves in the world. that's when we remember he won't be there for his son's second birthday or high school graduation or to see those grandkids. racism, racism in this country is not isolated. it is systemic. and so when we ask ourselves why daunte jr. has to grow up without a dad, when we think about what could possibly fill this hole daunte left in the world we come up empty. instead we find a much bigger hole where justice should be.

that word is so heavy on our minds this week, justice. two days ago in a courtroom not ten miles from where daunte was shot, a jury find derek chauvin guilty -- guilty of the murder of george floyd. and the nation owes a debt of gratitude to the floyd family. thank you for being here. to my friend, attorney general keith ellison who, by the way, if i could introduce keith's family who have had his back. if they could stand up. his family, his wife monica. they had his back through everything. and to ben crump, reverend al, reverend jesse jackson, all those in my state who have been warriors for justice. yet while this was a historic moment for our country we cannot confuse accountability for justice. because true justice is not done as long as having expired tags means losing your life during a

traffic stop. true justice is not done as long as a chokehold and knee on the neck or a no-knock warrant is considered legitimate policing. true justice is not done as long as black americans are killed by law enforcement at more than twice the rate of white americans. to use your words, katie, true justice is not done as long as your son is not coming home for dinner. our hearts ache for daunte in part because so many people in this room and throughout our state can imagine being 20 years old, driving around their neighborhood on a sunday afternoon. yes, even with expired registration tags. yes, even with an air freshener hanging from the rearview mirror. many young people can imagine calling their mom, their mom when they need insurance information or when they're scared. but only some can imagine being

shot by a police officer during a traffic stop. only some could imagine that this phone call would be their last. only some live with that fear every single day. and that, mr. crump, as you know, is the definition of injustice. during that ground-breaking trial, george floyd's family members, a store clerk, a firefighter, passer-byes as well as you noted, reverend al, a number of police officers testified about george floyd and what happened that day. they told the truth. they said it was wrong. and we heard darnella frazier, a teenager who testified having witnessed george floyd's murder say it's been nights i stay up, apologizing and apologizing for george floyd for not doing more. could she have done more? no. it was not on her to change what

happened that fateful day. it's not on people who nearly a year later happen to be at the intersection of 63rd and orchard in brooklyn center to change what happened to daunte. it is on us as leaders in our communities, in our neighborhoods, as lawmakers, we can do more. we must do more, because for too long change has come inch by inch when we should be miles ahead. it is time for washington, d.c. to move forward on police reform and pass the george floyd justice in policing act. we must make policing more accountable. we have to change police training and standards including banning chokeholds, which my colleague, senator smith, is leading the bill to ban chokeholds along with myself, she is up here with me on this stage. we have to change the status quo so that driving while black doesn't result in getting shot.

this -- this is the urgent task before us. not for tomorrow when i go back to washington. not for tomorrow, not for next year, but for now. true justice. so as we remember daunte's life and grieve his death, we must repair what's broken in this country and make sure class clowns, basketball fans, doting fathers and caring sons we main with us in body as daunte now does in spirit. we won't rest until justice, true justice is done. that's my proclamation to you.

>> we are getting ready to go. let me again thank our warrior, the attorney general of black america, ben crump. give him a lot of love. a day before the final funeral of george floyd in houston, then candidate joe biden came to houston and met with the floyd family and ben crump and i. showed us sensitivity. he's called them since then. he's met with the civil rights organization heads convened by mark murial, the president of the national urban league who is here. and he said he would meet periodically and we're calling on the president to meet. there needs to be a white house meeting on how we deal with

these police incidents one right after another that he and the vice president are committed to, there needs to be a meeting with the attorney general. we call for it right here in this funeral this morning. we have many mayors here and we're glad that they're all present and we are happy that you're here. we want the family to go out first, the ministers will lead them out. then i want some of the activist groups, not just those of us that are known, but those who have been marching in the streets, that made this happen, many of you need to walk behind the family because you made this happen. and then i want our head of youth and college action network minister, taliq milan, my youngest daughters are with me,

where are they at? tell them that we want them to march with us. we want to go together. naacp, urban league, all of us, mark, walk with the ministers, please, as we lead the family out and make sure that you put your red light on because some tags expired and we got to pull them over with a new law, the george floyd law. good afternoon. you're looking at live pictures from inside shihloh temple ministry in minneapolis. reverend al sharpton paying a

eulogy to daunte wright, an emotional, heart felt and at times uplifting tribute. we saw representative ilhan omar deliver a congressional resolution from -- on behalf of the congressional black caucus to the family of daunte wright as well as a speech from senator amy klobuchar, making the case as to why the senate needs to immediately pass the george floyd justice and policing act. let's open this conversation up to our guests at this hour. with us right now, shaquille brewster, he's outside of daunte wright's funeral. we'll keep an eye on that procession as the dignitaries and family members make their way out of it, taking daunte to his final resting place in

lakewood, cemetery. also with us, brian dunn. and host of msnbc's "the cross connection" tiffany cross. shaq, i'll begin with you for your initial thoughts on the proceedings that we just saw there that, as i mentioned, very emotional and heart-felt tribute to the life of daunte wright and what happens now. >> very, very emotional service there. you can just tell from those live pictures as we continue to watch them, as we see the family start to file out of the church there. you saw the emotion there. you saw the tears. you saw the hugs, but you also saw the passion to make this something more than just the death of daunte wright, as heartbreaking as that is. you heard so many speakers, speaker after speaker come up and talk about the george floyd justice in policing act. you saw george floyd's family in the church. you saw the family of oscar

grant in the church. you saw the family of emit till, then the governor, the attorney general of the state, congresswoman ilhan omar, you saw the senators, tina smith and amy klobuchar. you got a sense they're trying to put purpose behind daunte wright's death. they're trying to move forward and accomplish something in the wake of his death, use this as a way to build momentum and i think that was the clear thing that you saw. there is many times there were standing ovations at this funeral, it went from tears as they talked about the life of daunte wright, as they talked about how he loved basketball. how his family called him a high school basketball star. his nickname was lemonhead, then it went to applause as they said we want to accomplish something from there. i'm watching the family file out past me right now. you can see the emotion in their faces. from here, they'll bring out the casket and head off to the cemetery where they will lay

daunte wright to rest. this is the last time they'll see him. the last time they're experiencing him. as the casket comes, i'll let you watch these pictures. >> as we continue to watch the image there of daunte wright's face draped on that casket, we will keep that live picture up as he makes his way to his final resting place. tiffany, i want to pick up on a point that shaq raised, which was the purpose that we see from all of the dignitaries that were

there, from the governor, to the senators, to the representatives, to more importantly, perhaps, the attorney general, keith ellison who will once again have to oversee a case of a young black man being killed at the hands of the police. talk to us about the purpose as we go forward from this day forth. >> absolutely. you know, watching these images, i just have to say what's about to take place at the cemetery unfortunately i have sat beside mothers who buried their children, including my own grandmother who buried my father, the wail you hear, there's nothing like it. when you see people speak so beautifully, i want to make this point, this is one funeral with a lot of attention, but this type of brutality happens every

day. there are not always cameras carrying these funeral processions live. there's not always a lot of pomp and circumstance descending upon families every time a black child is gunned down or killed by law enforcement. this kind of thing happens every day, ayman. my entire life this has been a fear drilled into me. as we watch this, you see a lot of people in the audience wearing red. that was daunte's favorite color. he was buried in a jean outfit. you have to consider that this is a human life. this is a human being that exists. i think sometimes we can comprehend these things and the masses -- when you say x amount of people have been killed by police. when you tell one person's story and make it relevant, as to why some of us were not so cheerful when the jury found derek chauvin guilty. certainly that was accountability, it was not justice, as a friend of the

network says. justice would be mr. floyd being alive. as we bury this child today, ayman, i hope people will take time to consider different life experience. you know, we have -- there are a lot of people as they talk about this issue, they do so from a space of -- as an outsider, who have never understood what it's like to send your child out into the world and pray to god they make it home alive. there is no room for error with black children. there is no room to make a mistake. there's only fear and consequence with black children. so as we see this, some of the reactions from people who, again, are not familiar with the culture but have the temerity to say people should call this justice, this is what people march for. my colleague spoke about this with nicolle wallace saying yeah, look what had to happen, it had to be a global movement.

it reminds me people in this black country always had to die in spectacular fashion to pierce the white narrative of what happens to us in this country. what if there were no body cam footage, what if there were no attention? what if there were no national news coverage of this, his story would go untold like so many others. >> speaking of a single life's experience, it was a powerful moment when the reverend al sharpton, our colleague, talked about this young prince, the power that he had within his community. the hole he leaves behind by talking about the way that he was raised. the way that he was raising his own child, daunte wright jr., and the incredible impact he had. the laughter his mom said that would fill a room the moment he would walk in. brian, you know, to tiffany's point, there is a tremendous amount of attention put on this

singular life perhaps because of the narrative that came out surrounding the circumstances that led to his death. but at the same time, the fact that you see so many officials coming to a moment like this, coming to eulogize daunte wright and saying that his death cannot be in vain, it has to be built upon pieces of legislation that we're currently seeing, in reforming the systemic racism we experience in this country. talk to us about that particular -- the significance of having these officials here to rally behind this family and this cause now. >> look, i've been doing this so long, i've never seen anything like this, ayman. i have to step back a little bit and just say the energy that i was feeling watching all of them, i couldn't distinguish the idea this may have been a photo opportunity as opposed to an

opportunity to seriously change the world. i think that when i watched the proceedings, it seemed more like a political rally than an actual funeral. and one of the things that i have a serious problem with, ayman, is that i don't think the george floyd name should be mentioned in the same category. i'll tell you why. george floyd was not resisting. he was not using force. the officer that killed george floyd had no remorse. the situation involving george floyd was one of a true person that you can literally say he did not bring this on himself. we can't put that in the same category in terms of the mechanism of how the wright case played out. i know these are probably very unpopular comments, i think if

we want to stop the loss of life, our leadership needs to say that we need to teach our boys to stop running from the police and that that could have just as much of an effect in terms of saving lives as any bit of legislation. but the idea of a middle approach, one that doesn't bang the drum seems to be lost right now in our country. >> okay. fair enough on that point that you were raising. i'll give tiffany a chance to respond to that. my question to you, if i can, brian, about that point, which is if you have a history of distrusting the police because the list of people, of young black men and women who have been shot not running away from the people is just on par with those. >> right. >> to the other point that a lot of people have noted, which is is there a perception among the police that if you are a young black man or woman, just the

tone of your skin is a risk and danger that makes you a threat regardless of what it is that you are doing. >> well, i think that everyone is kind of walking on egg shells. i think we've got hundreds of years of inertia in this country that we're trying to undo. the movement for social justice is very important, but even more important is the concept of how we're going to heal the wounds in this nation. and how we're going to bring together all of the disparate factions. the idea of police misconduct is something that resonated in the souls of communities of color for literally hundreds of years, but it's not going to all change overnight. and the idea of how these situations play out and what actually causes a person to get shot, what causes the police officer to have this feeling, these are a lot of things that

are unconscious. they work on people from the dark recesses of their mind. the idea of escalation anxiety is omnipresent. we have to say this goes both ways. yes, we don't want the officers to use deadly force, they have historically been all too quick to do that. but at the same time, i was taught by my father to never run because they'll kill you. and the idea is it doesn't make it the fault of the person that's being shot for getting killed, it doesn't say that. they shouldn't be killed at all. at the same time we have to understand the way these situations play out is it is frenetic energy on top of frenetic energy. we have to teach our boys that any encounter with a police officer can quickly degenerate into a deadly encounter if they lose their cool or if they do anything that is a provocative act. no, it's not right. it doesn't make it right. it's reality.

>> all right. tiffany cross, you wanted to weigh in on that? >> yes, please. you know, i think that the practice of white supremacy is still deeply woven in this country, will you have the oppressed adopting the talking points of the oppressors. this is a 20-year-old kid. imagine what he's experienced and seen in his lifetime to have these law enforcement officers put him in handcuffs. he was fearful. he came up during the time of trayvon martin, philando castillo, tamir rice, countless names and faces who we have seen die at the hands of law enforcement. we want to put the onus on this kid, multiple police officers armed with guns and tasers, they had this kid's license plate, his license, his registration, they could have found him easily. somehow the conversation has turned to what could this kid have done to prevent his own death? why is the onus on us to stay

alive. i have seen police officers deescalate with white people more than i can remember. i hope people don't take away from this segment that somehow the blame is at the foot of the victim. in no other circumstance do we say that. do we say this person caused their own death. i refuse to say that here and now. i would just follow up to the point i made before, because i think there are a lot of people who are outside the community who have the temerity to make some of these comments and say, you know, why aren't people happy with this justice? this is what you've all been marching for. like minutes after this happened we saw ma'khia in columbus gunned down by a police officer. i know these are all different circumstances, and maybe the betty and don drapers of the world don't have to experience that, when i hear people say this is justice and everybody should be happy now, it's just not. i think how dare anyone try to

present this as though this child did something wrong. kyle rittenhouse was a 17-year-old kid walking around with a weapon and getting congratulated and an attaboy from police officers, and this kid was just trying to get home. i refuse to put any blame on this kid. >> the list of white people who have committed crimes being arrested by the police, violent crimes, is also long in this country and it raises questions about whether or not there is a double standard about how police view anyone who is trying to escape apprehension at any given point. tiffany cross, we have to leave it at that. strong conversation, brian dunn, thank you as well. thanks to the both of you. thanks to shaquille brewster earlier as well. this funeral is coming unfortunately just two days after former minneapolis police officer derek chauvin was found guilty of murdering george floyd. now an alternate juror from that trial is speaking out and

joining me now is gabe gutierrez who spoke with that juror earlier today. gabe, what more did she have to say about how this trial played out in the case? >> as you mentioned w that emotional funeral playing out not too far from here, we're getting our first insights and reaction from inside the courtroom. lisa christianson is an alternate juror. she did not deliberate on the fateof derek chauvin. she wishes she would have. she said she was disappointed and told me about her impression of derek chauvin inside that courtroom. take a listen. >> i guess what stood out for me is that video they took a still photo of it of him on mr. floyd's neck with his hand in his pocket. and i felt like the message i was getting from that, that photo was, like, i'm here to do my job, nobody is going to tell me how to do it.

i felt like he was being defiant on what anybody and everybody was trying to point out to him. i expected him not to testify. so i think the prosecutor had a really strong case, and i think he would have incriminated himself even further. >> now, for her, she says the critical witness was dr. martin tobin, that pulmonologist that testified that george floyd had died due to lack of oxygen, not his drug use, not an underlying medical condition. and she says that she would have voted to convict, ayman, but she did say when she heard the verdict come back, she was surprised that the jury unanimously convicted him on all three charges. take a listen to that. >> i didn't know they were going to do all three charges. i thought at least one or two of them.

and i was kind of amazed that it was all three charges he was found guilty of. >> were you disappointed when you were dismissed from the jury? >> absolutely. i was. >> you wanted to vote. you would have voted guilty? >> i would have. >> to be clear, she says it's not that she didn't think he shouldn't be convicted of all three charges, but she got those jury instructions, they were a bit confusing and she didn't have a chance to deliberate with the other jurors. what's important to note about her, also, she lives in brooklyn center, not far from where daunte wright was killed. she says that she was hearing the flashbangs and the press helicopters right by her house, but she said, ayman, that did not impact her work on the jury. she said that she realized this was a high-profile case, but didn't quite realize the magnitude of it until she was able to come home and turn on the tv. ayman? >> gabe gutierrez live for us in minneapolis. thank you. joining me now is a civil

rights attorney and former prosecutor, also an msnbc legal analyst. great to have you with us. let's talk about what we just heard there from that alternate juror. she said she was amazed that they found him guilty on all charges. were you surprised as well? >> i was not surprised. i thought the prosecution put on a solid case. you know, one of the things that jerry blackwell said and it came out throughout the entirety of the trial and the closing is that you can believe your eyes. the cause of death was exactly as you saw it. chauvin's knee crushing mr. floyd's neck. the use of force was unreasonable. it was excessive. it was not in line with minneapolis procedure or policy. and it wasn't even in line with national policy or procedure. so i think that i was not surprised at all. i thought the prosecution put a solid case on. >> as you are probably aware, certainly the country is, there's a big push for police reform right now, but some officers feel like it is not an

attack on the system, but on them. how do you bring everyone in to the table to buy into this? how do you convince the police that the reform is essential, not just for the society but also for them? >> you know, one of the of the echoed in the closing arguments in the chauvin trial was that cops do not like bad cops and that's the main thing. accountability and transparency and increased scrutiny is not a bad thing. it will highlight the great cops and get rid of the bad cops. they're talking about qualified immunity, having the doj provide oversight. this is all great things to help the police officers and their departments put in place great policy, great procedures that don't affect minorities and that do not harm or allow excessive uses of force. >> we know that it was derek chauvin convicted but there are three other officers who will

have their day in court later this year. what do you think that conviction of derek chauvin means for those three other officers in connection with george floyd's arrest? i believe their trial gets under way in august. >> such an interesting question because on the one hand part of me -- i put on the prosecutor's hat, part thinks after the chauvin conviction i would think that these officers may try to contact the prosecutor, be the first in line to contact the prosecutor to try to work out a guilty plea. but on the other hand i think that for some of the officers the defense to use is again just aiding and abetting so they're going to use one officer, two officers were rookies so they try to use that to sway the jury they're not liable but i think that ultimately they all are aiding and abetting and a thing to highlight is a conviction for chauvin i think is a step in the

right direction to accountability but certainly a conviction of these three officers that stood by as this man was murdered is a highlight as we progress towards accountability and scrutiny because no longer will officers feel that they're able to skirt by by allowing a co-officer engage in this type of abuse i misconduct. >> do you think that they could and will receive a fair trial in minneapolis given the attention on the chauvin verdict? the world stopped still just to watch that verdict being read. do you think that will not taint the pool of jurors who will have to make a decision about their fate? >> it's going to be hard pressed to find a juror not familiar with the chauvin verdict and specifically the guilt but again that does not eliminate a juror's ability to be fair and impartial. that is the legal barrier. can they be fair and impartial

knowing that chauvin was convicted? and as they hear the law instructed by the court and be fair and impartial. i think that, you know, they can be. >> we'll have to wait and see what happens this year. kristen, thank you so much for your time and insights as always. let's switch gears for a quick update from washington. it issette day today. president biden says that fighting climate change is quote a moral imperative. he is hosting a two-day climate summit from the white house and making a bold commitment by the u.s. to help the planet. watch. >> the united states sets out on the road to cut greenhouse gases in half, in half, by the end of this decade. that's where we're headed as a nation. >> joining us now shannon piece. what more can you tell us about the climate plan and where things go after this summit?

>> this is a lofty goal, this goal to cut emissions in half by the end of the decade, one that groups have been pushing the administration to take. it is in line with what a number of other developed countries are doing. it is certainly ambitious and the president acknowledged that but he said that in this decade we have a once in a lifetime opportunity to reverse the effects or at least slow the effects of climate change and if we don't take action in this decade we will get to a tipping point where the damage is irreversible. i would also note that just having this summit at the white house even though it is virtual is significant because it puts the u.s. back at the table. back in that leadership role after four years of retreat and sends the message to the world that the u.s. is here and is serious about negotiating. >> shannon, the anti-asian hate crimes bill making the way to the president.

overwhelmingly passed the senate today. how significant of a win is this for president biden? when do we expect him to sign it? >> reporter: it is a win for bipartisanship. this was a very not controversial issue or certainly it should have been and we saw overwhelming numbers supporting it. it does seem like something to obviously get bipartisan support by any win is a win this white house feels and they think things will start to build momentum to show that democrats and republicans can work together on some issues and i think it's notable. we heard press secretary psaki asked earlier today about a counter proposal republicans made to president biden's $2 trillion infrastructure plan. it is a much smaller less ambitious proposal than what biden has planned but psaki said they're open to discussions, plan to invite members to the white house after the president does the joint address next week and see this as a starting point

for negotiation to take this offer seriously. >> and the effort to combat the coronavirus and the efforts to get everyone vaccinated. is this administration unfortunately a victim to its own success? it's done a tremendous job with rolling out the vaccine. now begins the hard work dealing with a large part of the country hesitant to get the vaccine and this is going to pose a serious challenge for this president, this administration who want to try to reach that herd immunity of 80% some point this summer. >> right. administration officials acknowledge we are entering a new phase now getting away from the seniors, the nursing home residents, the high-risk groups, the people with urgency to be vaccinated because they knew they were at such high risk of severe complications from this virus into the more general population and administration officials say they believe there's a group out there who might not be so much hesitant because they have fears of the vaccine or distrust or believe

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