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thanks for spend intime with us on "the beat." the "reid out" with joy reid is up next. you should keep it locked because she has a one-on-one interview with voting rights activist, stacey abrams. that's next. ♪ ♪ good evening, everyone. we begin with "reidout" tonight what groundhog day quality with what seems like every day in america right now. another funeral, another mother putting her black son to rest, a son taken too early at the hands of a police officer who chose violence. this time it was the funeral of daunte wright, just 20 years old, shot at close range and killed by a veteran police officer in brooklyn center, minnesota, who claimed that she thought she was holding her taser instead of her block pistol. daunte wright, killed during the george floyd trial, whose 1-year-old son will now grow up without his father. his funeral coming just two days after the conviction of derek
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chauvin, a painful reminder that the verdict is only one small victory in the long road to meaningful police reform. something another mother underscored today during a memorial for daunte in new york city. gwen carr lost her son, keric garner, to police violence seven years ago and felt a familiar pain when she saw george floyd crying out, "i can't breathe." those same words, "i can't breathe," were uttered by her son 11 times after an nypd police officer grabbed him around the neck with his forearm and pressed him to the ground. >> we can't only sympathize with these families, we have to empathize with them. put yourself in this situation, like i have been in this situation. i know how it feels to lose a child. i know how it feels when they come and then nobody is saying they're sorry. those police officers who killed my child, we never hear from them. in fact, they try to protect
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them. so this just has to stop. we are just not going to take it. we, the george floyd verdict, good, but we need more verdicts. >> today the reverend al sharpton, who preached george floyd's eulogy last year, delivered a sharp rebuke of police brutality in his eulogy for daunte wright. the rev, who has taken on many roles in the civil rights movement from leading marches to leading the floyd family in prayer, today reminded us of his original calling as a preacher, giving us church on a thursday at a time when we surely needed it. >> you thought he was just some kid with air freshener. he was a prince and all of minneapolis is stopped today to honor the prince of brooklyn center. his tags had expired. well, i come to minnesota to tell you your tags have expired.
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your tags of racism has expired. your tags of police brutality has expired. your tags of white supremacy has expired. your tags of looking at us different than everybody else has expired. your tags have expired! it is time to renew and get some new tags, tags of righteousness, tags of fairness or tags of treating everybody the same way or tags of no justice, no peace. >> joining me now is reverend al sharpton, president of the national action network and host of msnbc's "politics nation." brittany cooper, associate professor of gender afrikaner studies.
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first of all, rev, the eulogy was powerful today, but i'm saddened you keep having to do them to be honest with you. you preach them very well every time, but, lord, when is it going to stop? as i listened to gwen carr who i had the privilege of meeting through you, you know, i am reminded that gwen carr has a family relationship to lieutenant nazario who was pulled over in virginia. she had that connection. daunte wright had a connection to george floyd because george floyd's girlfriend was a teacher that taught him. the connections are painful, and i wonder if you can just reflect on that and on what you think the message is to us today, having given that sermon. >> it is erie in many ways that you see these connections because it shows that all of us somehow are available to be the next victim unless there is
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strong legislation that will stop this at a federal level. that's why george floyd's family was there. philando castile's mother was there, oscar grant's family, many victims, because they're saying that we need the federal government to step in like they did 50 years ago to break jim crow, the civil rights act. we need a police act at a federal level. there's two senators from minnesota that was there today. we challenge them to help make their colleagues pass this george floyd justice in policing act because it must be where police understand that what they saw with chauvin this week, walked out of court this week in handcuffs headed to jail, that will fall their lot if we don't see this stop. you have to remember with george floyd's trial, we had a good prosecutor in keith ellison, the state attorney general, we had ten police that said you been talking about george every night testify.
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we may not have a perfect storm like that for the next case, so we can't depend on playing russian roulette with the lives of people with police. we need a firm federal law, that they understand they will be held and they can't play games with state deals or state unions that represent police. >> that is so important because, brittany cooper, the reason that you are on this show tonight is because you saved my sanity last night and stopped me from tweeting. i was like, let me just calm down and read your tweets because i was in a state last night. because as the rev just said, you have a perfect storm with george floyd. somebody who was subdued, a black man who was brought down to the ground, silenced, unable to move, completely, you know, subdued and supine as he was being murdered for nine minutes. but everything had to be perfect because even in that case the defense tried to paint him as some sort of drug addled monster that was going to leap and rise from the dead.
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it has to be per effect. you last night were tweeting about someone who is being already, but, but, there's all kind of dots after her murder, and this is makiyah bryant, where people are flipping from, i have compassion to george floyd's family but that one, yeah, she deserved that. >> that's right. >> you know, she deserved to die. >> that's right. >> i want to let you talk about that. >> look, the argument for our movements has never been that black people have to be perfect in order for them to deserve dignity, for us to have good policing, for us to be viewed with humanity, for cops to take a breath before they literally get out of the car guns blazing. so that's the first, right. that this is never what the argument for the movement for black lives has been, that you just get to kill black people, particularly when they're not being perfect. i think about how perfect, as reverend sharpton just said, the prosecution had to be in order to get the conviction for george
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floyd. it had to be impeccable. they had to leave no stone unturned. and if that is the standard, then no black person is really, truly going to be safe if we cannot be having a bad day, if we cannot defend ourselves when we think we are going to get jumped, if we call the cops and they can't show up and tell who the victim is and who the perpetrators are and they can't use their training to adjudicate regular, old, everyday community cop league. beyond that, what are we going to do the way we don't understand black girls as girls. makiyah bryant was a child like tamir rice was a child. the way she has been talked about as this, you know, because she was a big girl, right, and people see her as the aggressor of they don't see her humanity. they adultified her. we turn black girls into young women before they are even able to vote and unable to see them as children. so i have watched folks across the political spectrum really defend this and say -- and empathize with the officer, say that he didn't have any other set of choices.
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what are we training police to do if they are not actually showing up on the scene and making the situation better for all involved? if you can't figure out how to de-escalate a 16-year-old even with a kitchen knife when you have a gun and you're a grown man, you shouldn't be a cop. >> let me play makiyah bryant's mom. this is her birth mother, paula bryant. she was asked what she thought her daughter was up to. take a listen. >> makiyah was a sweet little girl. she didn't deserve what happened to her. something happened that should not have happened. she was, you know -- she must have been scared, scared for -- i mean something was wrong with that picture. >> you know, philip, we don't know the details of what happened beforehand, but i am bothered no one is asking what could have scared a 16-year-old girl enough that she felt she
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had to grab a kitchen knife, facing two adult women, right? >> come on. >> people are just -- no one is asking, what would have scared a kid who is in a foster situation so much that she felt she needed to defend herself or pick up a knife? no one is asking that about her. they're just saying, people with this sort of concern trolling, pretending they care so much about the other two women. brittany pointed that out on social media last night. do we really think those people are so concerned about those other two black women? your thoughts, philip. >> it is as if they only want to provide context that would allow it to be damning for a black child, right. so when we see something that's awful, where law enforcement are executing someone, all i hear is, well, we don't know what happened before the video started. you know what happened before the video started? we had a whole bunch of policies that made it okay to defund medical attention, to defund schools, to defund housing assistance, and now you want to talk about the three minutes beforehand that allow you to
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demonize somebody's character. so absolutely we don't know the specifics of this particular incident, but, as you said, it is not like someone in foster care has never had a bad experience before. i'm tired of folks talking about, well, what else do you want the officer to do instead of talking about, well, how else can we imagine a society so a 16-year-old girl doesn't have to be dead. can we just be there? a 16-year-old black girl doesn't need to be dead. she didn't need to be scared. she didn't need to be in a situation where she felt like she was engaged in potentially protecting herself, right. we can imagine a situation like that, then we can imagine ourselves holding the police accountable. >> here is the thing, rev. the thing is by definition if police are being called, then something has taken place that is either criminal, right, or is either frightening to someone in the community. that's whether the person is white or black. so don't give me the, you know, police didn't have a choice. if they're being called to a situation where they believe a
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crime is committed, that's true whether the person is white or black. we have seen police tussle with and beg white defendants who even have a gun, who even have a knife, because in that case too somebody was called because something was criminal, and they seem to have figured out an alternative to killing that person. kyle rittenhouse, the police knew he just shot two people. they knew he was behind it. they figured out something else to do. >> kyle rittenhouse is the best example. he killed two people and was armed and they were able to take him, full health and no bodily harm at all. when you look at the data, that is why we are challenging the u.s. senate. the data shows that they handle whites that are violent, that are criminal, that have even in many ways threatened bodily harm on police, and they don't kill them. why is it for any excuse at all they end up doing this when they're black or brown?
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it is something that we cannot tolerate. it is something that we have to deal with as the civil rights issue of today. we need the federal government to step in and start acting like they promised. we stood up and voted as a community in unprecedented numbers and put democrats in the white house, in the senate and in the house. now it is time for you to return our investment of protecting our lives against bad cops. we are not saying all cops are bad, but stop acting like all blacks are bad and out of control and the only thing you can do is execute them before a trial and a jury. >> very quickly, we have a little bit of time. i want to let phillip and then brittany. we have another case, a guy named andrew brown jr. again, police coming to serve a warrant. he gets in his car, he drives away. there's supposedly a fleeing felon rule you're not supposed to be able to shoot someone unless they pose imminent danger. they still shot him. we don't know the details of
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that. you work with police departments. do police understanding the fleeing felon rule because running away and driving away seem to be fatal activities for black people when it comes to police. >> i will tell you the police departments where we have worked they understand the fleeing felon rule, they have been taught that. they also understand you need to kneel on somebody's neck for more than nine minutes before you're going to get convicted of murder, right. so they understand the letter and the spirit of the law. if we don't have actual accountability for folks who literally are shooting people in the back -- by the way, endangering folks in that community because you don't always hit a car, and if you hit the car you might hit somebody else along the way. so when that is happening, if we don't have consequences there, then we will continue to see it again and again and again. now, i hear what the rev is saying. we need federal action. we also need to be supporting the local communities, because a lot of policing, it is state and local. that means the organizers and activists in local communities were demanding change, need to be supported, right, and the folks stepping out there, the elected mayors and city councils need to be supported as they do something that's different than
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what we are done historically. >> yes. brittany, two second, last word. very quick. >> fight for black girls. black girls matter, and when we build a world that is safe for black girls we build a world safe for all of our communities. it is not just in makiyah bryant's name. it is in darnella phrasier's name, too. >> amez. >> yes. >> reverend al sharpton, thank you so much all the time. brittany cooper. phillip goff, you guys are great. thank you very much. the rather sick republican response to the police in crisis in america make protesting a crime and hand out legal protections to drivers who run over protesters with their cars! seriously. plus, stacey abrams joins me after taking her fight against voter suppression right to the senate judiciary committee and shutting down republican senators like john kennedy. plus, the definition of progressives. democrats are thinking big on issues like voting rights, d.c. statehood and the environment. republicans are fighting to turn
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republican state legislatures across the country are respond into the demonstrations over george floyd's murder with punitive new measures intended to discourage protests all together. in the 2021 legislative session lawmakers in 34 states have introduced more than 80 anti-protest bills. the vast majority of them drafted by republicans. so far four republican governors have signed the measures into law, including in the state of florida. if it wasn't already clear that this is a direct response to the black lives matter protests, governor ron desantis actually cited the derek chauvin trial when he enacted what he is calling an anti-rioting law. as npr reports it creates a new crime called mob intimidation. it requires anyone arrested at a protest be denied bail until
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their first court appearance, likely making for overnight jail stays. in other words it would punish anyone at a peaceful protest that might be swept up alongside bad actors. unbelievably, that law grants civil immunity to drivers who run cars through protesters if the protesters are blocking roads. worse yet, a new law in oklahoma grants criminal immunity to motorists if this unintentionally injure or kill protesters on roadways. it comes after the driver of a pickup truck did exactly that on a highway in tulsa last may. leaving one protester paralyzed after he fell from an overpass. these are the kinds of wacky provisions some critics say might have protected the neo-nazi who was convicted of murdering heather heyer with his vehicle in charlottesville. likewise, in kentucky the fierce guardians of the second amendment are taking aim at the first. the republican state senate there wanted to make it a crime
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to insult or taunt a police officer with offensive or derisive words or gestures. the bill's sponsor may we introduce that during this session. these are stunning examples how legislators think they can legislate away your right to protest. it is the same strategy when they lose elections, they want to make it harder to vote. joining me now is florida state representative anna escamania, and britney, msnbc host. in florida you had desantis do the signing ceremony with poke county sheriff grady judd. this is the warning he issued. cut three from our producers. >> this is a riot and this will get you locked up before quit in the state of florida. pay attention.
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we've got new law, and we're going to use it if you make us. >> and i doubt he was showing a picture of the january 6th maga insurrection which was the siege of the capitol. i'm sure he doesn't think that was a riot. "the washington post" points out now in florida taking down a monument, like if you take down a confederate monument, will get you 15 years in prison, which is the same sanction as rape. your thoughts? >> it is disgusting how we are protecting monuments better than protecting everyday people in florida. the fact these sheriffs were given such a platform to continue to instill fear in people across this state on a law designed to suppress our first amendment rights was incredibly offensive and i was proud to vote no on this bill. >> brittany, this feels like it is directed at y'all, at black lives matter. it feels so george wallace i'm sure george wallace didn't actually think of it when he was governor of alabama. >> oh, this is straight out of
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the jim crow textbook. let's contextualize jim crow, shall we? when black people got more free there were new laws created to make us less free. this is exactly what is happening right now. what this actually shows me, joy, is that white supremacy is scared to death of us and it absolutely should be. this is what you do when you cannot win fair and square. you suppress votes and you suppress voice. so we have to pay attention here because the gop plays the long game and they play the expansive game. they plan far in advance. they gerrymander states so they can control state houses, and then they use all of that power to maintain their power and suppress us from multiple angles. so then they make it illegal to engage in the two most democratic practices you've got in this country, and they make sure to target black folks when they do it. that way, among other things, you can leverage the police that you have militarized to protect your systems and to continue to
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terrorize us. so it is our job to keep them on the ropes because this is what desperation looks like, and i want them to stay desperate. they know how powerful we are. that's why we're seeing this. >> you know, representative escamania, the racist sheriff who coined when the looting starts shooting starts was from south florida. ron desantis wants to reenact the george wallace history, i guess he wants to be the modern day george wallace because he is enacting a slew of laws that essentially try to make it illegal to protest in the state of florida, illegal to touch their precious confederate statutes from the losing side of the civil war, right? but then also we also can't vote. this is jim crow in your state. >> right. >> what can democrats do about it? >> well, i think both you and brittany have made some excellent points because it is not just the right to protest, and we have called house bill 1 hate bill 1 because it is absolutely designed to continue
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to divide our state and to pit people against each other when really we have so much in common that we can work towards. not only do we see this anti-protest legislation but, as brittany said, we also have voter suppression bill on deck here in florida. we see efforts to make ballot amendment initiatives, which is how we got medical cannabis and $15 minimum wage more difficult in the sunshine state. we are preempting local governments from doing their own policies on areas like clean energy and gun safety. all of this is part of a collective effort to stifle democracy so that those in power can maintain in power. what democrats need to do is fifrs all call out the -- on these bills. don't be shy about saying it is what it is. it is white supremacy in policy, and at the same time we have to organize and we have to win elections. i will tell you, joy, we fought hard on the house floor with hate bill one. we don't have the numbers to win. >> yes. >> we have to organize and win elections. >> you know, the kentucky bill, brittany, literally tries to
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criminalize what those witnesses did in the george floyd trial, that they stood there and they tried to face down that officer and berated him. they will make that illegal in kentucky. is black lives matter, you know, prepared and how are y'all prepared to deal with this, particularly when you have police officers donating to kyle rittenhouse, showing support to him and making him a cause celebe among law enforcement. a guy was fired in virginia for this. a bunch of other officers have been doing it, too. how under siege does black lives matter feel knowing you are facing these kinds of politicians, but also some folks in law enforcement that are supporting people like rittenhouse? >> well -- >> who shot black lives matter protestsers! >> absolutely. let's be clear, and he was taken alive, he and his ar-15 are doing just fine right now mile makiyah wright is dead. the broad network that are a part of the racial justice movement are disciplined, organized and thoughtful.
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we know that white supremacy, to paraphrase rick james, is a hell of a drug. once you get high on it once, you keep wanting to attach yourself to it. so we understand what we are working against here. that is part of the reason why if you look across the country people are not just pressuring the federal government to do things like pass the for the people act, people are also working as organizers with those elected officials who have our back. people like park cannon in georgia, people like the new mayor of my hometown, st. louis, mayor jones, who has been on our team since day one. we want to make sure we are in every single place so we are setting the policy and that we are holding people accountable. i guarantee you that all over this country organizers from the top to the bottom are ready for this fight. >> yeah. amen. well, they're not only getting high, they get high on their own supply, which you are not supposed to do. florida state representative
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brittany escamania, thank you very much. still ahead, stacey abrams will be here to talk about republican efforts to suppress the vote across the u.s. after trump's ignominious defeat and how democrats are fighting back. stay with us. h us [sfx: psst psst] allergies don't have to be scary. spraying flonase daily stops your body from overreacting to allergens all season long. psst! psst! all good where can a healthier heart lead you? for people with heart failure taking entresto, it may lead to a world of possibilities. entresto is a heart failure medicine prescribed by most cardiologists.
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led by the florida man, warned of massive voter fraud, the likes of which we've never seen before. of course, five months into the election we are still waiting for them to produce any actual evidence. i mean have you seen it yet? well, now one pennsylvania house representative, who led multiple hearings in an attempt to have congress reject the state's results, says fraud was indeed found. republican seth grove told the pennsylvania "capital star" it was republicans in pennsylvania who were found to have committed election fraud. grove added, it is still election fraud. it doesn't matter who commits it. we don't want that fraud to occur. and to say there wasn't any is a lie. i will say there's not, like, this mass amount of fraud that's going to shift hundreds of thousands of votes, but there was election fraud. da-da-da, tip your waiters. we know there was no mass itch fraud but it has not stopped congressional republicans to stop spouting the lie to change
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voting laws and suppress voting of americans, especially people of color. that was on full display with republican after republican trying to up stage one another, displaying their true ignorance on the issue. but the absolute worst of them was louisiana senator john kennedy, who thought he could get the best of stacey abrams, a mistake i'm sure he is still trying to recover from today. >> you're against the georgia bill, i gather, is that right? >> i am against certain provisions of it, yes. >> okay. i think you have called it a racist bill, am i right? >> i think there are provisions of it that are racist, yes. >> okay. tell me specifically, just give me a list of the provisions that you object to. >> i object to the provisions that remove access to the right to vote, that shorten the federal run-off period from nine weeks to four weeks. >> okay. >> restrict the time a voter can request and return an absentee ballot application and eliminate.
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>> slow down for me because our audio is not real good here. okay, what else? >> it bans nearly all out-of-precinct votes. >> bans what? i'm sorry. >> it bans nearly all out-of-precinct votes. >> okay. >> meaning that to get to a precinct and you are in line for four hours and you get to the end of the line and you are not there between 5:00 and 7:00 p.m. -- >> okay, what else? >> you have to start all over again. >> is that everything? >> no, it is not. no, sir. it restricts the hours of operation because it now under the guise of setting a standardized timeline it makes it optional for counties that may be -- may not want to see expanded access to the right to vote, they can now limit their hours. instead of those hours being from 7:00 to 7:00 they're now 9:00 to 5:00, which may have an effect on voters who cannot vote during business hours, during early voting. it limits the -- >> okay. i get the idea. i get the idea.
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the push by republicans across the country to enact new restrictive voting laws continues to grow. according to the brandon center for justice, as of march 24th, lawmakers in 47 states have introduced 361 voter suppression bills just this year alone. that's 108 more than was tallied just one month earlier, a 43% increase. i'm joined now by one of the women leading the fight against such law, stacey abrams, founder of fair fight. you know, stacey, it is breathtaking to see the breadth and number of laws and ways that republicans are throwing bricks in front of voters.
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i wonder if when you look at it, as somebody who has been a politician, who has been an elected official, is this more straight-up just sort of racist attempts to reconfigure the electorate or is it more geo tv? part of me thinks that at least some of it the geo tv, an attempt goat their voters to vote at all because their voters no longer believe in the system because they don't always get their way? >> i actually think it is more of an existential panic and cowardice and laziness. weigh they realized in the last election was a confluence of possibilities came into being. communities of color that had largely not fully recognized their power became part of the electorate. young people, who had largely kept themselves at a more diminished capacity, participated in elections. and because of covid, more americans, especially those americans who are the most vulnerable and disadvantaged, understood there were alternatives for participating in elections and they did so.
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rather than confront and grapple with what it means to have a more engaged and expanded electorate, they are instead working as hard as they can to not only throw up the bricks but also to, to your point, to use this geo tv strategy to create a new boogie man for their own -- you know, for their constituents. but at the same time they're expressing their hostility towards those communities that changed the outcome in 2020 and 2021, and those are largely communities of color. so racial animus is absolutely a part of it. but overall it is an existential crisis and existential panic leading to the tactic that worked well for so many other parties and that's voter suppression. >> what is fascinating is as a country we are trying to modernize everything, right? we made it easier to watch movies, you can just get netflix. we make it easier to do everything. voting was going in that direction. one of my favorite parts of your exchange in the hearing, it was all fascinating with senator kennedy, was when you said they
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did 15 years of vote-by-mail and thought there was nothing wrong with it, it is convenient until black people used it and they said, oh, we got to get rid of it. let me show you some polling. automatically registering all citizens to vote, 61% of people agree with that. allowing convicted felons to vote after serving their sentence, 70%. requiring government-issued photo id, 76% want that. making voting available for two weeks. those things are popular with most voters. things that are not popular, only a third support want the state to take over county officers. only 30% support a ban giving out food. 72% believe the laws are just about trump. at some point is there a diminishing return in your view to what republicans are doing, where they make it so hard even their own voters get constricted from voting and they start to lose among independents and others who say, you've gone too
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far? >> i think they are reaching that inflection point. today in arizona we saw the rejection of sb-1485, which had the exact purpose of eliminating their permanent early voting list. it was going to disproportionately harm communities of color, but apparently they realized that their voters are on the list, too, and they risk the likelihood of losing access to voters. but the challenge i see and the reason federal legislation is so necessary is that we don't know what that inflection point is in every single state. as long as states have the ability to engage in voter suppression, to react to communities of color increasing their participation by putting up these barriers, then we are all in danger and our democracy is in danger. >> you know, i think hysteria is not too strong a word to talk about the way republicans seem to feel, right, about electorates of color who demographically are just coming. you know, 5 year olds are already in a majority non--white world. so there is a hysteria, but i wonder if on the democratic side
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there's not enough kyrsten sinema, like joe manchin say they're not in favor of removing the filibuster to put a federal law in place that would stop this. i wonder if you think that there's not enough urgency on the pro-democracy side at this moment. >> well, i will say that senator sinema cosponsored s-1, which is the for the people act, and senator man chin has signalled he is interesting in and understands the importance of voting rights. he was secretary of state in west virginia. he was governor in west virginia. so i think that there is an understanding. i think that this is a broader conversation about how to make this urgency converted into action, but i do think that where we stand today is a vast difference than where we were in 2016, 2018, when voter suppression was really picking up steam and we were still trying to convince people they could use that language out loud and create change. what we saw happen in georgia in 2020 and again in 2021 has,
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indeed, led to hysteria from republicans. but the reaction should not be to hold on to power by diminishing the power of citizenship. it should be, let us evaluate our policies and do our best to convince these voters that they can join us. voters of color are just like any other voter. we will pick the people who will represent us best and deliver for our needs. what we have failed to see from republicans is a willingness to confront that reality and adjust accordingly. so instead we are seeing voter suppression, which is the coward's tactic when it comes to winning elections. >> i want to ask you about georgia specifically, because one of the things that i feel that republicans -- i mean 306 bills, part of it feels like they're trying to exhaust the nonwhite electorate, exhaust the liberal white electorate and say, we're just going to exhaust you with throwing so much at you. how exhausted do you feel georgia voters are at this point? they've already essentially delivered an election, you know, to joe biden, two senate seats, and now people are going to go
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back to them again and say, you want to keep warnock in there? you have to go back again. you want to get rid of margie, the qanon lady green, you have to go back in there again. there's so much on georgia's plate right now. how much exhaustion do you think? also, there might be a governor's race with maybe you in it, my friend. how much exhaustion do you think has kicked in in your home state? >> i think there's resignation. they were -- voters were exhausted in 2018 when we had hours long lines and when we had a secretary of state who with impunity took over -- you know, conduct his own election for governor. we had exhaustion in 2020. we had exhaustion in 2021 as we had to fight over and over again to make certain that votes were cast and counted, after eight-hour lines in june of 2020. but what is so remarkable about georgia's electorate, about voters of color in particular, is that exhaustion has been met with success and victory has a way of reinvigorating you and preparing you to stay in the fight. >> and we've seen, you know, the asian-american community suffer
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this horrific attack. you know, obviously we've seen ongoing police brutality issues. there are still cases that are open there. these communities are facing these multiple stressors, right? i'm wondering how you think that winds up intersecting as people like you and from fair fighters are coming back and saying to get into the political process? >> one of the most important ways to engage voters, there's absolutely the responsibility of registration, but it is connecting the dots. it is making certain as we saw with these horrific murders that if we do not have the right people in power, then they will not stop men from murdering women of color. if we do not have the right people in power, they will not take action to protect our environment. if we do not have the right people in power, district attorneys will not charge and police officers will be left to immunize themselves from accountability for their actions. what we are seeing happening, especially in georgia, is that
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people are connecting the dots between, here is why we vote and here is what we get. i fight for voting rights not simply for the act of casting a ballot, but for the act of being able to craft my future, and that can only happen if i'm allowed to participate fully in our elections. that's the message that we carry to every community of color, to every disabled community, to all young people, to any voter who seems marginalized and disadvantaged because we have proven to them in 2020 and 2021 that if we try it, if we work hard enough, it can work. >> stacey abrams from the heroic state of georgia, who also happens to be a nobel peace prize nominee, which i won't embarrass you by making you talk about that. >> thank you. >> but we're going to be looking at how that trajectory goes, too. stacey abrams, you have been doing this a long time, sister. keep it up. thank you very much. really appreciate you spending time with us this evening. >> thanks, joy. >> thank you. up next, a study in contrasts. biden opens a key climate change summit with ambitious new proposals and goals.
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the decisive decade. this is the decade we must make decisions that will avoid the worst consequences of the climate crisis. >> today is earth day. president biden committed to cut greenhouse gas emissions in half by 2030 as part of rejoining the paris climate accord. the plan could be key to making that happen. moscow mitch went after biden's plan today for de-carbonizing the electric grid, which is what actually needs to happen for the u.s. to begin to address climate change. it's been a banner week for republican obstruction. you would think setting up a commission to investigate what led to the insurrection on january 6th would be a no brainer. no. republicans want to expand the scope to include so-called political violence by the far left, even though the far left had nothing to do with january 6th. today, the house passed a bill entirely along party lines that would make washington, d.c. a state.
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there's been republican his tier -- hysteria over this. here is the thing. republicans seem to be all about liberty but only when it benefits their political interests, such as when americans want to stockpile guns or not wear masks. the right to protest is suddenly limited when people want to protest police brutality. republicans love to focus on the founding fathers. when d.c. residents fight against taxation without representation, apparently, they don't have the right. they claim they are for democracy. not mike lee who says democracy is bad. democracy, not so much if it means americans have the opportunity to vote for democrats. dean, it's a weird party. josh hawley the one guy to vote
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against anti-asian american hate crimes bill for whatever -- it's a weird thing. he claims it's too broad. too broad. former prosecutor, too broad. what? what is wrong with this party? >> joy, it's not a political party as we know political parties. it's an authoritarian white national movement that as of january 6th, they embrace violence, which is now fascism. one point i thought the gop were going to distance themselves from donald trump, instead, 80% of republicans in the recent polls approve of trump. how are we going to understand that -- they are on board with the use of violence to retain power. this is not normal. i challenge people at home. you know everything. name one policy the gop is championing that will tangibly help working class americans. nothing. zero. everything is about their
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wealthy donors. that's what they care about. what they give the working class is white nationalism. they give them voter suppression like jim crow saying, we are not letting black people vote, so feel better about yourself. these extreme abortion laws. if a woman is raped she has to carry the fetus to term. if anybody helps her get an abortion, it's a felony. that's the law in arkansas. democrats, look at our red meat, it's real red meat, as it real or you can have a veggie burger. infrastructure, a jobs program, to protecting our climate for our families, our children and our grandchildren going forward. >> to your point, ron ron desan is tax internet sales and we will give business a break. that's what he is doing. i think there is a political
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analogy. i keep making it. the nationalist party in south africa -- we don't do politics to help you. we do black people can't have anything. as long as we do that, you keep -- you are for us. that is what republicans are offering. they are offering white christian men, we will keep you on top somehow. >> it's toxic white identity politics. it's not normal. it's toxic. it incited a january 6th terrorist attack on our capitol. why is donald trump not under arrest? the reality is, we are in a time where you have tucker carlson, who i call tucker clansman, talking about the replacement theory. you have scott perry repeating that in congress last week. marjorie taylor greene wants to start angelo saxton -- where are
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the republican voices denouncing it? nowhere. it's ramadan so it's a miracle. i'm on after stacey abrams. it's a dream come true. they demanded every muslim denounce every bad muslim or they were going to say they were complicit. where are the good republicans standing up to white nationalist gop? good republicans, why are you silent? we have to assume you are complicit. i don't see any other common sense approach other than believing that. >> it's true. marjorie taylor greene thinks she's going to debate aoc. the final question is, you are going to write about this. they also are, as you said, looking -- trying to pretend the january 6th siege on the capitol didn't happen but then trying to make normal protests illegal. you are a lawyer. explain. >> right. the republicans quietly, while we were watching the chauvin trial, introduced 81 bills in 34 states for their war on free
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speech. they have gone from the war on voting to the war on free speech. in minnesota -- it's from -- the lists are outrageous. my article comes out tomorrow. read all the details. >> we will have everybody read your article. this is a guy who is a broadcaster. he knows when you have to close. thank you for being here. tonight on "all in" -- >> the united states isn't waiting. this is the decisive decade. >> the white house goes big on climate. tonight the case for optimism about the biggest problem on the planet. hakeem jeffreys on starting a commission. how one american city has made strides in reforming its police department on the day daunte wright is laid to rest. >> words can't explain how i feel right now.
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