and deliver future-ready protection, keeping you sharp for tomorrow. join us, the defenders, in our mission. cybereason. end cyber attacks. from endpoints to everywhere. good evening, and welcome to "politicsnation." tonight's lead, some justice, some peace. with the historic week behind us, tonight, the conviction of derek chauvin exists in its own space as a solemn legal victory for the family of george floyd who, unlike so many black and brown americans,unnecessarily

killed by police, was vindicated by a court that did the right thing. but also right now black america has a rare choice as to just how enthusiastically it wants to celebrate chauvin's conviction and how much faith it's willing to put in our justice system, because just one day after chauvin's conviction i was still in minneapolis as head of the national action network to eulogize the life of 20-year-olds daunte wright. while reading about the death of 16-year-old ma'khia bryant and five other americans killed by police just 24 hours after the chauvin verdict. still, our justice system has a rare public opportunity to earn black trust by attacking police misconduct with federal action. congressional democrats have for the most part rallied behind the george floyd justice in policing

act as the best way forward, and the senate's lone black republican says he now sees some bipartisan daylight for the bill, signaling at least a cosmetic interest in reform from the congressional gop. but state-level republicans remain more concerned about policing black and brown rage, and so they've chosen to crack down, in some cases, run over the rights of protesters nationwide, and the assault on the ballot box continues. all of that on this post-trial edition of "politicsnation." joining me now is civil rights attorney, attorney general of black america, benjamin crump who represents the floyd and the wright families, and msnbc host of reidout, my little sister,

joy reid. >> reverend al, this was historic. there's no other way to proclaim it. you were present there when that moment came. it was such a tense moment because america, not just black america, but america have become so used to there being injustice when black unarmed citizens were killed by the police that when we have this rare victory where a police officer was convicted of murder and second-degree, third-degree, as well as manslaughter, guilty guilty guilty, everybody who had been

holding their breath since may 25th 2020 could take a collective sigh and exhale. however, as you know, at the same time that we were receiving the verdict, there was the killing of the 16-year-old young black girl in columbus, ohio. since then, drew brown was killed in north carolina. and the enemies of quality in florida passed anti-protest legislation, which is a direct affront to the chauvin victory that we achieved because they relate, reverend al and joy reid, what those activists were doing in the street like national action network and others to convict this police officer. just like with the voter

suppression, they're saying we're not going to have another georgia. they're saying we're not going to have another derek chauvin be convicted. >> now, joy, you heard the family is grateful for the outcome. i think most of us were. it was a generational court case and ruling. but this was a week that many of us did not think would come because we have so seldom seen justice. that can't be extinguished with one verdict especially when you have protests over ma'khia bryant's death as well as others. that was happening during the same time frame. before that, it was daunte wright and adam toledo, going all the way back to emmitt till and beyond. so yes, we won one round, but the fight is far from over, and many of us that's been in this a while was glad to see this to energize a movement, but to lead

to some real permanent legislation that will really make this a real significant victory. >> no, absolutely, reverend al. this was not just a verdict for george floyd's family and his late mom who he called out to in his final moments of life, but for diallo who i know through you. her son was killed back in 1999. it was a victory for wayne carr who i spoke with last night on my show whose son eric garner also cried out "i can't breathe." or marly graham who was killed in his own bathroom while his 6-year-old brother was in the other room, hearing his brother getting shot to death, no justice for him. you go on and on and on, including the cases you just eulogized, daunte wright who was killed during the trial of derek chauvin. so police are not restraining themselves the least bit despite

the ongoing outcry of black lives matter. we saw statistically early on in the first years of the black lives matter movement the number of police shootings go down. now we're seeing approximately three people killed a day. police kill more than 1,000 people in this country every year and they are disproportionately black and brown and indigenous, and we need to think about whether police itself can go on the way it is now because it is very quickly losing the consent of the government. we would never allow ourselves to be governed by our killers. that is not a legitimate exercise of governmental authority. >> now, attorney crump, a sentencing date for derek chauvin was announced yesterday, june 16th. we can expect to know how much prison time he'll get for the murder of george floyd then. but the three of his now former

fellow officers who were with him on may 25th and have been criminally charged for abetting his actions, they're expected to being tried together in august. what does the conviction this week mean or at least imply for their cases later this summer? >> well, it has to be very worrisome to them, reverend al. and i know from talking with attorney general keith ellison and his team of prosecutors that they're going to be looking at every aspect of whether to accept anything less than the full accountability and full sentence of them. and remember we have to see on june 16th when chauvin is going to be sentenced with. and i believe as george floyd's family has requested, that it should be a sentence that is

consistent with -- if the roles were reversed, what george floyd would have been convicted with. it needs to happen because when you think about all these killings subsequent to george floyd, anthony mcclain, daunte wright, and now, reverend al, we have to call on you again to come to elizabeth city, north carolina, where andrew brown was killed and we're fighting for the release of that video. three of the officers have resigned. seven of them are on leave. so we know that that video is bad. but how can we ever get them to stop killing us unless we have them held fully accountable so they don't shoot first and ask questions later with black people? and the final thing i will say to you and joy reid, can we just get through a week in america without the police killing a black person? >> well, you're absolutely

right. i'm certainly available to help the local civil rights community and that family in elizabeth to look into that matter. but joy, i know you know this. since the beginning of this year republicans in 34 states have introduced more than 80 bills targeting protesters. the penalties ranging from being barred from public office if you've ever been arrested for protesting, to in the case of oklahoma and iowa, civil immunity for motorists who drive through protesters as we've seen most vividly in charlottesville. this week republican florida governor ron desantis signed his so-called anti-riot law, which, among other things, makes destruction of property a felony. under that logic, how many of these insurrectionists would be charged, joy? >> well, i mean, think about it

for a second. people get upset when i liken ron desantis to george wallace, but look at what he's doing. you have a racist sheriff in miami who notoriously who said when the looting starts, the shooting starts. he was considered an arch segregationist, basically a while nationalist with a badge. donald trump quoted him as saying when the looting starts, the shooting starts, essentially saying if people are marching -- and people who are in black lives matter were not looting. people were marching and there would be people who would commit mayhem at night. they were found to be right-wing agitators to frame black lives matter that would make the protests look more violent. but whatever it is, they're trying to criminalize protests. they're essentially trying to make legal what a neo-nazi did to kill heather heyer, who was a white black lives matter protester who marched in

charlottesville. remember why that start. it started over the idea of taking down confederate monuments, which were put up to warn black people decades after the civil war, not to do with the civil war directly, but to rewrite the civil war to make the southern side, the confederate side, the heroes to let people black know you will never be equal. we will put up these monuments to slaveholders and to the people who terrorize you. now if you're breen newsome, you're more liable to criminal liability than somebody who rams their car into someone like heather heyer. what they're essentially doing is trying to make protesting against police killing black people illegal, but to wrap their arms and the law around confederate monuments, around statues to treason. >> confederate people that, as you just said, committed treason and killed people in order to keep slavery.

>> correct. >> they're going to stall them, and, by the way, our tax dollars have to pay for the security and the maintenance of those statues that are there because they tried to enslave -- they did enslave our fore fathers. i'm out of time, but i want to thank both of you for being with us to really put this in perspective. i couldn't have done a post-conviction analysis with two better opening than the attorney general of black america and -- i won't call her that on public, i'll just say my little sister. but if anybody is the mouth of american reason, it is joy reid. she's a joy to all of us. thank you, joy. thank you, attorney general. >> thank you, rev. joining me me the jim clyburn, democrat of south carolina who is also the majority whip. always honored to have you on, congressman clyburn. you are a lion in the congress

and one of the most powerful democrats in the country. but you're also a black american man who is old enough to remember both walter scott and emmitt till, and you were a civil rights activist and still are, long before many knew you as the power that you have become. what did the chauvin verdict mean to you this week as a black american and as an elected official? >> thank you very much for having me. it meant a whole lot to me, as i have said. i think that that verdict helped to get us back on track toward our purity of a more perfect union. as you said, emmitt till did not get justice, but we saw last week -- brought back memories of the people against the klan when we saw a jury of 11 white people

and one black person convicting a black person -- a white person for killing a black person. and i thought then that we were about to move in the right direction. and when you saw a long awaited justice for those four little girls that were bombed and a very dilated trial and convictions, i thought then that we were on track. so it seems to me, as i say very often, that justice in this country tends to move like a pendulum on the clock. it goes left for a while and then it goes back right for a while. i hope that this movement with this conviction will get us on track. and hopefully we will stay on track. now, the only way to do that in my opinion is for us to pass the

george floyd justice in policing act. and i'm very pleased that karen bass, who is negotiating on behalf of the congressional black caucus and house democrats and my colleague and foal south carolinian, tim scott, will come to some common ground. let's pass the george floyd justice in policing act. that, to me, will help us move forward on this new pursuit of perfection, what i call a more perfect union. >> let me ask you this, congressman. as chair of the house subcommittee on the coronavirus crisis, let's go to that for a minute. >> yes. >> what does it mean for president biden's vaccination efforts that the johnson & johnson vaccine has been cleared for usage again? >> you know, i think that if you look at the statistics, and i go

with science on this. nothing is perfect, nothing's going to be exact. you go with what the predictions are. my daughter, my number two daughter, she worked with johnson & johnson, dr. jennifer reed, who you know, jennifer has taken the johnson & johnson vaccine. if we thought that there was too much of a danger, certainly she would not have taken it. we believe that what they have done in this instance in moving beyond the pause is the right thing to do. now, this is not to say that there's going to be 100% -- i've had two shots of the pfizer. it's only 94%. that's a pretty good deal.

i've said to people, if i had 94% playing the lottery, i'd be playing it every day. >> i think those are good odds. let me ask you this, congressman, before we run out of time. you recently said that you wanted president biden to cast himself less as a president franklin roosevelt on matters of race and equity, and more as a president harry truman, when you said did for more black americans than his predecessor. can you briefly explain that distinction? >> if you look at the new deal, the new deal was great for the country. but the new deal left pockets of poverty all over the country. just think about it. when african-americans soldiers came back from world war ii, they didn't come back to the gi bill and to housing loans that created suburbs in this country. they were denied those

opportunities. we give today all kinds of accolades to the tuskegee airmen, but what happened to them when they came back after world war ii? when they were asked to integrate the armed services, he didn't do it. when they came south, it had a tag on it, white only. my whole thing is the new deal was not fair. that's why harry truman became president and in his state of the union address in 1949, he says i'm going to put in place a fair deal, and that's what he did. he was sued. he was vilified. in fact, strom thurman called him all kinds of names. he loved franklin roosevelt, hated harry truman. and when the reporter asked him

why, he says, well, harry truman means what he's saying, to belie that on the crutches of race, roosevelt did. all of us knew about roosevelt. i'm old enough to remember all this stuff. that's what started me to studying this stuff. and so i tell people all the time, i don't want it to be new. i want it to be fair. new deal was not fair. harry truman put in the fair deal. he proposed three civil rights bills that roosevelt refused to propose. so what i want to do is i've said to joe biden, he's doing a great job. i think that he is putting us to where we need to be. i think if he continues on this course, it will go down in history as great a president at

truman. >> thank you for being with you, congressman jim clyburn coming up, republicans are singing the praises of florida governor ron desantis as a kinder, gentler donald trump. i'll tell you why the second verse is just the same as the first. but first, my colleague richard lui with today's top news stories. richard? >> rev, good saturday to you. some of the stories we're watching for you this hour, the united states resuming use of the johnson & johnson vaccine. there was an 11-day pause. the shots now come with an increased risk warning for very rare, but severe blood clots. a spacex calcium docked with the international space station this morning. it had four astronauts from three different countries. the mission is the third ever crude spacex flight with a reusable rocket booster and my face craft. fans of the rapper dmx are

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not much lite. for instance, let's compare their approach to the covid-19 pandemic. trump's complete dereliction of duty led to nearly half a million dead americans on his watch in florida, desantis followed his lead, refusing to implement the most basic coronavirus restrictions, and even preventing local governments from enforcing their own public health rules. like trump, desantis was more concerned about his own image than the lives of his constituents, downplaying the crisis at every turn. but the similarities don't end there. the two men share an almost pathological disregard for the constitution they took an oath to protect and defend. and particularly the first amendment's guarantee of the right to peaceably assemble.

he had peaceful protests disrupted so he could have his photo taken with a bible. desantis signed an unconstitutional law that, among other things, makes it easy to classify peaceful protests as riots and grant civil immunity to people who drive their cars into protesters. the laws are already being challenged in court, but it's all about appealing to the republican base. unfortunately for trump, desantis and every other republican eyeing a 2024 run, that base is rapidly shrinking. thousands have leapt the gop in the last year, including in key swing states, and the democrats have the biggest edge in voter registration in over a decade. of course, republicans have decided they won't bother to

grow their own pool. they would rather pass racist and restrictive new laws to stop those of us who would oppose them from exercising our constitutional rights. desantis' next familiar with bit is a bill currently under consideration in the florida legislature, similar to georgia's recent law, it would limit early voting, make voter purges easier, and ban the practice of giving food and water to voters waiting in line. if passed, this law would also undoubtedly face challenges in the court. so governor desantis, you can keep taking your cues from the disgraced ex-president. if trump decides to sit out 2024 you might be trumpy enough to win the republican nomination, but americans proved in 2020 that we will overcome just about any obstacle to keep trump and his ilk out of the oval office.

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reform. the house passed the george floyd justice in policing act which would end qualified immunity and ban law enforcement from using choke holds and no-knock warrants during arrests. south carolina senator tim scott is also planning to introduce a republican police reform measure. can the two sides come together to get something done, in your opinion, don? >> yes, they can. tim scott, full disclosure, is a good friend of mine. i think it's most important that those of us who are skeptical of him because he's republican and a trump supporter, tim scott is a black man first and he has lived experience of being a black man in the south. tim scott is having very serious discussions not only be cory booker and the white house, but his republican colleagues about qualified immunity. it's one of the main barriers that keeps police from treating black people properly on the front end during these

encounters when they know they will basically be not held civilly liable because of qualified immunity nor criminally liable because it's hard to bring charges. i know tim scott is having real discussions about qualified immunity and that gives me hope for a real bipartisan bill. >> let me say this. everything i've seen at national action network, he's come through despite we may disagree political on those people. but you feel that tim scott can get some republicans to come with him on these issues in terms of police reform? >> i don't know. but i also don't know how many he needs. we're at a 50/50 senate. if he gets himself to come with him, then that's a passable bill. i have heard republicans -- i have even heard tom cotton acknowledge that the black youth and the black police experience is different from his own. tim scott is persuasive. he's an important and

increasingly senior member of that caucus. i don't know how many he can get, but even him himself is a powerful statement. >> susan, as bizarre as this sounds to those of us living on earth, the arizona senate is holding an audit on the 2020 election results right now that is being conducted in a basketball arena by an outside group called the cyber ninjas, who are apparently making up the rules for the re-count as they go along. former president trump has called for the national guard to protect whatever is happening. i mean, how long can republicans continue to perpetuate the big lie about an election outcome that has been certified and accepted for months already? >> yeah, looks like donald trump will lose a fourth time. sorry, this would be the third time he would lose in arizona. rev, seriously, this is such a

disgrace how this is happening. this is a republican firm that has been hired that supports the big lie. they're auditing these machines. the republicans who work if he board of elections there are against this audit. they have been fighting against it. those are republicans, but they are getting definitely pushback from, you know, the statewide committee republicans in arizona. this is a disgrace. it is simply being done to try to further some ridiculous voting restriction laws that they want to get passed through their state legislature. >> now, don, on friday, former olympian and reality tv star caitlyn jenner announced that she's running to be governor of california in the recall election for gavin newsom. but jenner is not the only celebrity toying with a political career.

lara trump, matthew mcconaughey, her shell walker are considering runs as well. we know america is no stranger to seeing a public figure go from entertainment star to politician, but why are we seeing more and more celebs trying to make this leap, don? >> because over the last 50 years since the election of ronald reagan to the governorship of california we have dumbed down our politics and made them into essentially a battle of celebrity. we all talk about how much money is necessary to run for high office. well, every dollar that's raised is going towards the one thing that donald trump has that, caitlyn jenner has, that ronald reagan had, name recognition. you save all this money, you spend all this money and you ask for these donations to go toward one thing, and that's name recognition. unfortunately, that makes these celebrities formidable entrants into these candidacies, even though they have no discernible governmental or professional skills whatsoever. >> now, susan, we mentioned

football star herschel walker who might run for senate in georgia and has the enthusiastic support, i might add, of mr. trump, who also backed former college football coach tommy tuberville in alabama. yet, just this week we saw trump lash out again at nba great lebron james via press release, basically telling him to shut up and dribble. it seems trump only has problems with athletes in politics when they don't agree with him. >> yeah. that's exactly right. by the way, an endorsement from donald trump does not mean you're going to win. that's a really important thing that these candidates seem to know. donald trump doesn't endorse people to win. he endorses them as revenge against other people, against other republicans that don't go along with him. he does not have a very good track record in doing this, and i think his endorsement for a lot of republicans -- it may help him potentially win a

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the appropriate responder dispatched for their situation. joining me now is the mayor of ithaca, new york. thank you, mr. mayor, for being with us. what are the odds of this proposal becoming law in your city? and what will the process look like? >> sure. thank you so much for having me. i really reesht appreciate it. the odds are really good because two weeks ago our common council after considering this plan that was put together by the community over nine months, the council considered it for six and a half weeks and voted unanimously to adopt the plan. so what's left now to do is implementation. we get to design -- we have a lot of work to do. >> go ahead. >> we get to establish a task force to design the new department in detail, put out the job description, and hire from across the country for a new director of public safety

and community solutions, and get to work proving what our data shows us, which is it is possible to build a better, safer community with less conflict between law enforcement and the most vulnerable communities. it's possible to have an unarmed, demilitarized response. we'll have fewer officers in harm's way, which is a good thing. >> you posted a link to the new plan on twitter, referring to months of community engagement. what was that process like and who was involved? >> well, what was important -- we had an enormous collaborative of 50 people. we partnered with the county. we had social service workers, we had police officers, we had the community leaders of color most importantly, but members of the activist community. and we had a band of wonderful

and very useful nerds on our side. you have to have some data nerds and the center for policing equity did a great job for us helping comb through the last years of data. they together had what was honestly a very wrenching process. the last nine months we heard directly from focus groups, town halls, one-on-one interviews, we did anonymous surveys. and we were cussed out, reverend. i was cussed out. the police department received the kind of feedback that is usually happening behind closed doors in the black community. but because of the national uprisings that, frankly, gave voice to the voiceless and became the largest civil rights movement i've seen in my lifetime, it was possible to have a frank discussion that said what we're doing cannot continue. we have to chart a new path forward. that's why the common council also adopted this plan anonymously. >> now, under the new proposal, all current police officers would have to reapply for

positions in the new public safety department. are you concerned about the pushback from the police union or from your constituents? >> yeah. there was quite a lot of pushback on that. and so we clarified that all of the current officers can, if they want to, continue. they can continue as armed public safety workers and guess we're going to respect their union contract and respect their right to bargain collectively. but we think that's important to respect workers rights in that way. >> in baltimore -- >> can i also say, reverend, one of the most important parts of our plan, it's something weaver been doing for the last six years and improved and enhanced screening for police officers. this is something that should be a national standard, doing psychological screening paired with polygraph tests to figure out not only have officers worked in law enforcement before or have been fired, are they signing up because they want to use their weapon in the field,

are they harboring explicitly racist or patriarchal or authoritarian views? when you do these tests, you screen out 75% of people who would have otherwise made it onto your force. because we've been doing these tests over the last six yearsing i have great confidence in the current makeup of our department. >> i'm out of time. i was going to ask you about the commitment in baltimore. but let me ask you this, mr. mayor. ithaca is a college town with a population of around 30,000. if these policing policies are enacted there and they prove successful, what are the chances they could be adopted in larger cities with much different demographics? >> as you know, cities are often laboratories of democracy, college town especially so. 30,000 of the smartest, best-looking, kindest constituents a mayor could ever ask for are often on the front edge of social and political

change. and i've been contacted by literally hundreds of elected officials in big cities and small villages across the country who want to copy the approach we're pioneering. >> let's see what happens. i'll have to leave it there. thank you, mr. mayor of ithaca. up next, my final thoughts. stay with us. nstead. with crisp veggies on freshly baked bread. just order in the app! ditch the burgers! choose better, be better. subway®. eat fresh.

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verdict announced in minneapolis this week, it was a moment of victory. but a moment that tears would stream down our eyes saying finally we saw a breakthrough. but then i went back to my hotel after celebrating and weeping for joy with others and prepared to go and do the very next thing, the wake, and then the following day the funeral for daunte wright. a 20-year-old killed by police in the city -- the area of brooklyn center, minnesota. at that funeral, i made it clear what i felt in my eulogy we were dealing with. >> i was talking to one of the relatives and i said, well, why are they -- what are they trying to just guy?

they said one said, well, they said that they saw some air freshener in the back of his car. well, we come today as the air fresheners for minnesota. we are trying to get the stench of list brutality out of the atmosphere. >> and that is what we're trying to do. gets stench out. all over this country. merrick garland yesterday had a virtual call with eight heads of civil rights organizations nationally including me of national action network. and he talked about since he had asked about the call about the

justice department and law enforcement that they will be serious about going forward and investigating policing. we talked about the george floyd bill. we also talked about the justice department needs to look into reopening the eric gardner case and tamir rice case and others that were overlooked by the justice department under different heads. in other words, the fight is not over. we had a good round. but we need to finish the fight against illegality among law enforcement. we owe to law enforcement officials that are good. we owe to all citizens. we'll be right back. ns we'll be right back.

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thanks for watching. i'll see you back here tomorrow at 5:00 p.m. eastern for another live hour of "politics nation." my colleague alicia menendez picks up our coverage now. >> hello, everyone. breaking news tonight, as demonstrators take a stand for yet another weekend across this country. highlighting the you are against need for police reform and accountability.against need for police reform and accountability. six americans were shot within just one day of the derek chauvin guilty verdict. and that throughs in north carolina. andrew brown jr.'s family

renewing calls for the body cam footage to be releas.