♪♪ good evening. welcome to "politics nation." today's lead, sign of the times. right now, several fundamental questions about our nation's future are being asked and american seems to approve of the answers it's getting from the oval office. coming up on his symbolic 100th day in office, this week president biden will address congress and by extension the nation. from a u.s. capitol building that was defiled by insurrectionists barely four months before. with the chauvin verdict now

history and increasing americans vaccinated against covid-19 and a general sense the country is turning a corner, the nation has given him higher marks for his first four months than his predecessor ever achieved in four full years. our latest nbc news poll has 53% of adult americans approving of joe biden's performance since taking office. nearly half the country approving his handling of american race relations. it is there on race that the president will need the nation's good will as democrats tackle police reform, voting rights, even reparations. can this president foster the kind of racial equity he has made central to his administration without the backlash vote that put his predecessor in the white house

and confederate flags in the halls of congress? we start with congresswoman karen bass, democrat of california. she's the former chairwoman of the congressional black caucus who reintroduced the george floyd justice in policing act. congresswoman, let me go right to it. you heard as did i, president biden's remark on the chauvin verdict in which he called systematic racism a, quote, stain on the nation. i want to play some of what your congressional colleague, republican senator lindsey graham, had to say about president biden's response this morning with fox news. please take a listen. >> we just elected a two-term african-american president. our systems are not racist. america is not a racist country. this attack on police and policing -- reform the police.

call them racists, no. >> a mouthful. your thoughts, congresswoman? >> first of all, we know that systemic racism exists. i'm not sure why senator graham said that. one of the most challenging things about our country is that it's extremely difficult to deal with the problem if you refuse to admit that the problem exists. you can look at each of our systems, education, health care, the environment, housing, go down the line and you can find historic legislation that was passed that absolutely discriminates. sometimes that legislation was reversed. but the impact of that legislation still holds. you know that housing was a first example of that. not a first, but one of many. when suburbs were built, it explicitly said that federal dollars could not be accessed by

african-americans and other folks of color. why do we have disproportionate rates of death with covid? inequality in education. down the line. i think it's very hurtful when you just flat out deny something that is so obvious. that finally the nation is awakening to. i didn't think his comments were constructive in any way, shape or form. >> it also made me wonder, does he even understand what systemic racism means? because to have an election -- >> i think does. >> have to a president and vice president doesn't address the systemic institutional racism based into the system that has to be brought out. he may know, but he certainly didn't answer what the president said. he didn't address systemic racism at all. that's like a corporation having a racism in the corporation and you say, but we have a black on the c suite floor. that doesn't answer the question about how you run the company.

i want to pivot to another of your congressional colleagues, that's south carolina's other republican senator, tim scott, who is in the political spotlight right now ahead of his response to president biden's first congressional address. he is the gop's point person on police reform. leading their push for a compromise on the floyd act in the senate. i know hour much you respect the senator himself, defending him yesterday in the press over inconsistencies in his personal narrative. i wonder if you could legitimately see his party elevating him to become their first post-trump face, or more cynically, is he just their version of the right face for this moment? >> rev, i have absolutely no idea. what i do know is that he has been absolutely straight and a

good partner to work with on the policing issue. he might be a republican, but he is a black man. and he has his own experience with policing. my focus is making sure that we can get the job done and this bill on the president's desk. i'm talking about a deadline of may 25th. there's no reason why it should even take that long. we have done a lot of work. may 25th, sadly, is the anniversary of mr. floyd's death. >> and my conversations with scott over the last couple of years, he has brought up his own experiences and may be the only one to talk to some of his colleagues. time will tell. congresswoman bass, why did you recently join the lawsuit that several of your democratic colleagues and civil rights groups have brought against our former president over the january 6th insurrection? explain why you joined in. >> well, i mean, i think that we

need to do all we can to take the mask off of what happened on january 6th, because that is going to go down in history as the first time we really didn't have a full peaceful transfer of power. i think that there were a lot of elements behind it. the organized right wing, white supremist groups. anything we can do legislatively, through a lawsuit, through a select committee, we have to get to the bottom of what is going on in our country, because this is not going away. there is a right wing movement in this country that we need to pay serious attention to. they are clear that they are armed, they are trained. you know there was a lot of law enforcement officers there. there were military members active and retired that were there. there were even legislators that were there. with all of that going on, we have to get to the bottom of it. so i was happy that the naacp

brought the suit. i think it's quite ironic that it's the ku klux klan's suit. that says a lot. i'm hoping that it will be a vehicle to get to the bottom of what happened on january 6th. >> i'm out of time. i want to pivot back for a moment to the question of the floyd act. because one of the sticking points we are hearing -- i'm talking with my hat on as the national action network, part of the civil right fighting to see this bill pass, is that one of the sticking points is qualified immunity. a lot of us not wanting to see a compromise in that area. explain why that is so important and explain why you have been fighting to make sure we end qualified immunity. >> well, first of all, i think that the police officers and the republican party generated a lot of hysteria around qualified immunity. if we remove immunity from officers so that they can be

sued by people who they victimize, no one will want to be a police officer, police officers are going to retire. what i say back to them is that until we find a way to hold officers accountable so that officers like derek chauvin don't think that he can kill someone and look at a camera and not think that anything is going to happen to them, then officers and the profession is going to be demonized. we need to have reforms so that people embrace policing, not shun it, which is what's happening now. >> anyone that wants to look at a camera and not be held accountable shouldn't be a policeman. we should have people like that on the force. congresswoman, karen bass, thank you for being with us. joining me now is my panel, chris lu, former deputy labor secretary in the obama administration, and rena shaw, founder of relax strategies and

founder of republican women for biden. as we close out president biden's first 100 days in office, his approval ratings sit at 53%. higher than his predecessor got. he has high approval for his handling of covid-19 pandemic. how do you expect the biden administration to use this political capital in the next 100 days? >> well, indeed, the biden administration has been blessed with a high approval rating. trump had a 54% disapproval rating at this point. you look at the opposite and see what's going on. you see a party that worships a man that's no longer the president and is refusing to get behind biden. what he plans to do next and now we know what that next thing is, and that's taxes. let's get at what's ailing a lot of americans, this tax code, which is very archaic.

here is the thing. this is a great opportunity. so many of us agree that the uber wealthy, the ultra rich in this country must do more. they must pay their share. they are not doing that because they have been -- there are loopholes. they have been allowed to skirt the responsibilities they have to our fellow americans. i have been disappointed. i am one of the people that does not believe we need to hike the capital gains tax rate. i'm worried about that stalling the economyserving as an anchor. we won't have the economy we want to see. >> chris, the president will give his first address to congress this week. he is coming off the successful passage of the covid relief package. still hoping to get a big infrastructure plan through the senate. not even to mention the george floyd justice in policing act

and the for the people voter protection bill. what are you expecting from the speech? >> i think the president is going to focus on three things. i think first he is going to talk about covid, the issue that got him elected. he will talk about the accomplishments in terms of vaccinations and checks out the door. he is going to say the fight is not over. we need to wear masks. people need to get vaccinated. there's a group of people in this country who just don't want to get vaccinated. i think secondly, you have to make a forceful push for infrastructure. he will talk about why infrastructure isn't just some 19th century concept of roads and bridges, but it has to deal with human infrastructure, the ability of people to get to work because they have childcare. lastly, you will hear him build on the comments he made after the chauvin trial and talk about systemic racism, the need to unify our country, to address some of the issues.

>> republicans have tapped their only black senator, tim scott of south carolina, to deliver their traditional rebuttal to biden's address. i mentioned it to congresswoman bass. what do you think about this choice? what do you expect from scott's remarks? >> of course, the mind goes to the sense of this is pulling out senator scott to be a show pony. look how diverse we are. we know the numbers. we don't have to get into that. senator scott is a force to be reckoned with. he has been well liked across the spectrum. he is somebody to admire, not only because of the solutions and ideas he has brought to the senate floor, but he has stood his ground and really i think stood up for what most center right republicans like. those are the murmurs i hear. they want him to run for president in 2024. i think we're going to see how he handles himself, what he has to say, the substance will be important in that rebuttal.

i on one hand celebrate it, but on the other hand i'm disappointed to not hear a more forceful pushback about the big lie. we see it in arizona, for example, what they are doing. the fringe republicans who have now hijacked the mainstream of the party and still do not push back on trumpism in a way that allows this republican party in its current form to be about solutions and ideas for people like me who are under 40, young mothers and have been dealt a tough hand this past year as we are small businessowners. we are looking for the substance from senator scott this week. it won't be enough to say the party is fine. we need to hear ideas, concrete ideas, solutions as a response to what biden will put out in terms of this tax plan primarily. >> let me switch gears to the audit of the presidential

ballots in arizona there are reasons to cast doubt on the process, including the total lack of experience from the company running it and the banning of journalists from observing it. one of the auditors turns out to be a republican ex-lawmaker who was part of the mob that stormed on the capitol on january 6th. how can anyone trust a process that allows an insurrectionist to handle ballots? >> let's be clear. once again, there is no proof of widespread voter fraud, not only in arizona but in any state in this country in the 2020 election. by all accounts, this was the fairest, most accurate election we have ever had. multiple cases, dozens and dozens of cases, even going up to the supreme court, rejected the challenges. the house, the senate certified the results and rejected challenges. what's troubling about arizona is that this is conducted by a private venter whose ceo echoed

the false claims about vote are fraud. there's no clear independent observation of what's happening. this bucket of ballots that they are looking at have already been counted by hand once. the election -- the voting machines have been audited. there have been a dozen cases challenging the cases thrown out by the local courts. this is just trying to grasp for any shred of any evidence that would provide support to more voter suppression laws in this country. >> even if we could trust this so-called audit process, what exactly is the point? arizona doesn't have enough electoral votes to change the outcome of the election. is this just in service of the big lie, another attempt to cast doubt on the legitimacy of voters of color to justify more racist voter suppression laws? >> indeed. it's to keep a certain segment from voting.

let's be honest about what this partisan game that the arizona republicans are playing will do. it will continue to sew the disinformation we have seen take this republican party by storm. people have subscribed to nonsense. no longer in touch with facts. the cognizant dissidence is great. it's to keep certain people from voting. that is shameful. we know it. this republican party, if it wants to look at its root, it needs to have more people vote. bring new people to the table and saying, this democracy is for you, this country belongs to everyone. if we want a more representative democracy, one that reflects the diversity of this great country, we need to bring more people to the table in a responsible way. instead, they go and take the low road.

that's all they have got. this is a ploy. coming up, we saw some accountability in the chauvin verdict this week. it is not enough. we still need to rise up together in the fight for justice. first, my colleague with today's other top news stories. a very good sunday to you. some of the stories we are following this hour. more than 222 million doses of the covid-19 vaccine have been distributed across the united states, over 27% of americans are now fully vaccinated. the biden administration announced the u.s. will send aid, including ventilators and ppe to india, amid a surge there. india set a new global record for infections, more than 350,000 new cases were reported in a single day. indonesian military officials have found the

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for this week's "rise up," i want to acknowledge the small measure of accountability dlib delivered by the chauvin trial. true justice would be george floyd alive and here with us. the conviction of a white police officer for the murder of a black man was momentous. indeed, this was the first time such a thing ever happened in the state of minnesota. according to the aclu. our work is far from over. this week in my capacity as president of the national action

network, i was yet again called to speak at the funeral of a black man killed by police. daunte wright was gunned down just miles from the courtroom in the midst of the trial. a confusion in this country between peace and quiet. some of us are told to shut up and just be quiet. and you call that peace. but peace is the presence of justice. you can't tell us to shut up and suffer. we must speak up when there is an injustice. let me be clear, i'm not talking exclusively to black folks. black folks have been speaking

up for centuries. and we made incredible progress. but the burden of white supremacy is not ours to shoulder alone. a sentiment echoed by the vice president in her response to the verdict tuesday. >> here is the truth about racial injustice. it is not just a black america problem or a people of color problem. it is a problem for every american. >> here is where i specifically want to talk to white folks. last june, following the release of the video of chauvin murdering floyd, 60% of you supports the black lives matter movement. by september, that fell to 45%. i don't know what happened. maybe you got tired of marching with us. a lot of you did and you did march with us by the thousands. here is the hard truth about

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congress is considering new legislation to address the shocking health risks black mothers face both during and after birth. the rate of pregnancy mortality is disproportionately higher for

black women compared to those who are white. now the black maternal health momnibus act of 2021 was introduced by democrats on capitol hill to help shed light on this disparity. joining me is the co-chair of the black maternal health caucus and one of the members of congress who introduced the legislation, congresswoman alma adams, democrat of north carolina. congresswoman, you wrote a piece in "the sacramento bee" calling for lawmakers to save black mothers' lives by passing black maternal health momnibus bills, improving black maternal health is not only important to you, but it's incredibly personal. how so? >> it's personal to me because first of all, too many black women are dying needlessly.

my daughter, 15 years ago, was one of the women who almost died and my granddaughter, who is now 15. we know that the rate here in the united states as it relates to maternal mortality, black women are dying three and four times the rate as white mothers. this is something that can be preventable. 60% of black maternal deaths are preventable. we don't want to see another black mother leave the hospital without their child or a child left without their mom. >> you along with vice president harris and senator cory booker have helped to champion and introduce legislation in congress to combat this alarming black maternal health crisis. tell me about it. what is in it? >> first of all, it was 2018

when senator harris -- then senator harris, now vice president, along with the black mamas matter alliance decided we had to stand up. we decided that as we looked at all of the bills that many members of congress were putting together that we wanted to come together and put a comprehensive package together that would make the kind of investments that would improve maternal health. so we then filed the momnibus act. this bill this time is -- of course, we have senator warnock, who has taken ahold of this as well as vice president harris' success in the senate. we believe that -- we have 12 bills now. we have three that were added to the nine that we initially had. the last three bills were

pandemic response with protecting babies and moms from climate change, maternal vaccination. then we have other bills that deal with the social determinants of health that would support pregnant and post partum people with maternal mental health conditions, social determinants of health like housing and transportation, nutrition. support for midwife and so forth. protecting moms who serve, military moms. we are talking about justice for incarcerated moms, also looking at digital tools for telehealth and helping to promote innovative payment models so that these moms can afford the health care that they need. comprehensive package and we believe it will do a lot of good. >> a disturbing statistic put out by the cdc in regards to

pregnancy mortality in the u.s. is that black mothers are up to four times more likely to die from childbirth than their white count counterparts. 41.7 deaths per every 100,000 black births compared to just 13.4 deaths per every 100,000 white births. would you call this evidence of medical racism? >> well, i would. one of the things that we look at in our package is putting programs together that will address the racism that we see, that many of our moms have been victimized as a result, doctors not necessarily listening to them, thinking that black women can bear pain much easily than

other women. all these kinds of things. not really taking them seriously. that was one of the situations with my daughter, complaining of pain and the doctor is, it's really not much of anything, it will go away. we've got to teach them to look at our women, black women, brown women differently and understand that their pain is serious and that they need to listen to them. they are not listening to what many of our mothers are saying. and as a result, they are dying needlessly. >> you are also the co-chair of the congressional hbcu caucus. inside of president biden's $2 trillion infrastructure plan, it mentions giving several billion to help fund research and development for historically black colleges and universities. how big an impact would this be on the community if this is passed? >> certainly, we hope it will be

passed. it's going to have a tremendous impact on our communities. i have worked with hbcus a long time. i'm a graduate, 40 years. i do understand that our colleges and universities don't have large endowments. we are basically -- many of us -- many of our schools are enrollment driven. we have lost a lot in terms of the pandemic. this relief is going to help our schools. we think it's going to help them to get back to where they need to be. this is one of the reasons that i sponsored and passed the future act, that we passed it in 2019, because our schools are struggling. we have been victimized over the years, not getting the funding that many of the other schools get. it's a catchup game.

i believe that with the congressional black caucus along with the bipartisan hbcu caucus, we are going to work to make sure that these schools not only survive but they thrive. the funding that the president has put in his plan i think will certainly help do that. it includes tens of billions of dollars to invest in research and development at hbcus. it's a critical part of the equity equation for hbcus. it's been missing for a long time. we just believe that this is the right thing that he has done. we want to make it right for our schools. >> congresswoman adams, thank you for being with us. thank you. after the break, the biden administration is set to unveil this week its ambitious plan to end child poverty. will it be enough? stay with us. ♪ (ac/dc: back in black) ♪ ♪ ♪

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in the coming days, president biden is slated to roll out the second phase of his economic recovery plan. among the selling points of the plan for american families is the extension of the enhanced child tax credit, which the president has said can lift as many as 5 million children out of poverty. cutting the rate of child poverty in half.

joining me now is the reverend dr. starsky wilson, president and ceo of children's defense fund. it has endorsed this extension, the extended tax child tax credit as a step towards reducing child poverty in america. can you explain just what it does for american families, particularly in this time under covid-19? >> sure. thanks. we are glad to be with you. the child tax credit extension really makes available up to $3,600 per family for children under the age of 6 and $3,000 per family for children between 6 and 17. most critical is that that payment comes not once a year when taxes are filed but begins monthly, beginning as soon as this july. we were pleased to see this

included in the american rescue plan. most significantly pleased that it has been extended to 23 million children who previously their families earned too little to get the tax credit, oddly enough, but by changing the administration, making this something part of the covid relief bill, it had the impact of being able to cut child poverty in half, 52% for black children, 45% for hispanic children, up to 61% for indigenous children, if it's implemented well and all who are eligible have access to it through this implementation. we are excited about that and pleased that the president is seeking to extend it. frankly, we are pushing hard with our coalition partners to suggest that this is something that should be permanent. this child allowance would bring us aligned with other well developed english speaking

nations who have some form of basic permanent assistance for children with families. we are glad to hear this extension will be a part of the american families act that may be introduced this week. but we really want this to be a permanent benefit for children and families and investment in america's children. >> this is your first year as the head of the cdf. you took the reigns of leadership from the legendary marion wright edelman who advised several presidents on improving outcomes for children, particularly disabled and minority children. as we approach president biden's 100th day in office, how do you rate this administration's actions in line with the cdf's mission? >> we have to be pleased. the increased benefits in the covid relief bill, the expansion of housing and affordable

housing access, especially for unhoused young people. these are things that get high rankings, of course, by cdf, by its partners and by everyone who cares about children in america. the key for us is going to be making sure that when this gets to congress and when this american families plan begins to be a part of the public dialogue, that we don't do what we have been doing in recent years, which is choosing billionaires over babies. talking about the price tag of this bill as if the $1.5 trillion that may be a part of the american families plan rollout is something that we should scoff at when over the course of the first year of the pandemic, combined, american billionaires earned their wealth was gained by a trillion dollars. we have the resources. the question is, will we build the will to invest in america's children? we are pleased that this is part of president biden's build back

better approach. we want to make sure this becomes a permanent investment in all america's children. >> you come to cdf from an activist background. you worked closely with black lives matter in your hometown of st. louis and nearby ferguson after the police killing of michael brown in 2014. this week, you tweeted, after the police killing of ma'khia bryant in columbus, ohio, that you would rather bystanders call you, your wife, essentially anyone but the police should your own 16-year-old son be in jeopardy because you fear for his life. you devoted your life to helping kids of color. i would like to hear your thoughts as we keep burying them unnecessarily after fatal encounters with police. >> yeah.

reverend al, i'm a father to four children, three black boys. we continue to wrestle with the realities of safety. i'm on the journey of abolition, because i find myself in a place where having fought in the context of ferguson late at night in the streets with activists, being tear gassed with young millennial mentors of mine, and then fighting through discussing solutions for police reform through the ferguson commission with leaders in our region, quite frankly, to having some of the legislation to be repealed years after, i find myself disheartened, i find myself feeling the hurt, the pain and the stress every time i see one of these videos and i find myself on the journey to invest more deeply in our communities, to get to the place where we recalibrate local

budgets and where we can ameliorate the challenge of st. louis where my family has lived for the last 20 years and the reality of classrooms where black children are six times more likely to be assaulted or arrested by police than their white counterparts. this is not our children. youth justice is part of the vision we have for america at the children defense fund. i'm glad to be in the fight from this place, and side by side with folks like you. >> and it's not healthy for the nation. you're right about that. reverend dr. starsky wilson, thank you for being with us. >> up next, my final thoughts. stay with us. the lexus es, now available with all-wheel drive. this rain is bananas. lease the 2021 es 250 all-wheel drive for $339 a month for 39 months.

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can i get some privacy, please? this has been a momentous week in this country. and it has certainly been that for me, personally, as i traveled back and forward to minneapolis, going to vigils and rallies, and counseling and comforting as a minister the family of george floyd and

trying to in my capacity as president of national action network, work the phones, talking to legislators, talking to people in the white house about the need to make laws happening. not knowing what the verdict would be, and then continuing that after the verdict. because we cannot continue to keep going to funerals, as i ended up having to do another eulogy 48 hours after the verdict. if you missed any of these momentous things that were going on, not only with me, but with the whole week, that i believe will make history, nbc worked very hard putting it all together that you can see tonight. i'll give you the particulars after i show you a little snippet. >> i think guilty means that now we have decided that police are not above the law. now, let's strengthen the laws so that people feel safe. this could be the light at the

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that does it for me. thanks for watching. i'll see you back here next weekend at 5:00 p.m. eastern. "american voices" is up next with an in depth look at latinos and the fight against covid-19. a little later, my colleague alicia menendez picks up our news coverage now. >> thank you so much, reverend sharpton. hello, everyone. i'm alicia menendez. we begin with the historic week ahead for president biden. he hits 100 days in office this week. a metric long used to calculate presidential performance as new polling from nbc news shows how americans feel about the job this new white house is doing. >> this week, the president will give his first joint address to congress, the first time we see two