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mess with president trump's likely involvement but it's really hard to know and ohio has just been moving away from democrats in such a significant way i have trouble seeing how this will be a success but i'm looking forward to asking tim ryan about it. >> that does it for us this morning. stephanie ruhle picks up the coverage right now. hi, there, i'm stephanie ruhle live at msnbc headquarters here in new york city. it is monday, april 26th. there's a lot going on this week. so let's get smarter. this morning the johnson & johnson vaccine is officially back in play after a ten-day pause. at least 29 states are offering the single shot again after the fda gave it the green light again. but there are growing signs the nation's vaccination program is losing some steam. nationwide the average rate of
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vaccinations is down roughly 20% to less than 2.8 million yesterday. some states are starting to turn down shipments of the vaccine because they have more supply than demand. some mass vaccination locations are actually shutting down due to lack of customers. all of this comes amid new reports that more than 5 million americans or about % who got the first shot of either pfizer or moderna vaccine missed getting the second shot. the biden administration said the headline sounds a lot worse than it is, insisting 92% of those who got the first dose also got the second dose, and that is very high by historical standards. there's also a piece of good news for us who are vaccinated and want to go on vacation. an eu official telling "the new york times" we should be able to travel to europe this summer. i want to go first to nbc's sam brock. he's at a fema evacuation site in miami. sam, where you are people can choose which vaccination they
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want to take. i'm guessing it's going to be a less popular morning for j&j? >> that's certainly the early indication, stephanie. good morning. i was out here literally hours over the weekend, talked to hundreds of people, 200-plus for sure on sunday. that was the first day j&j was being offered here in florida. i asked them what's your level of comfort? the vast majority expressed some reservation about taking j&j. when you look at the numbers and they're very good about updating them here in florida, it reflected that. 3,000 doses administered yesterday and 2,800 were pfizer. people had the choice now, 185 were johnson & johnson. and folks coming out yesterday were also getting their second shot of pfizer, with that caveat. so you look at a 2-to-1 ratio of people choosing pfizer over j&j.
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they said look, i know it's a odd or long shot, 0.2%, but i don't want to be that odd one out. it's not worth it for me. but we also spoke to moms specifically about kids. here's what we heard. >> i really feel confident because it is only 15 cases out of 8 million people who got the shot so it's very minimum. so i felt safe. >> i was just worried about what people would say about the efficacy. i saw the news and they were saying there's complicated for other people so i didn't want to take chances. >> that man you just heard from was not aware so far all of these 15 documented cases affected women only. so there's an educational side and misinformation campaign trying to be addressed by federal officials of the part of the whole equation here. i would also point out the consent forms now that are
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available for johnson & johnson, part of the contingency upon brig it back, one of the screening questions is are you between 18 and 49 and are you a woman? if that's the case, you would get red flagged and more information would go to that individual if they made the choice to go with j&j, pfizer or moderna. that's the latest here, stephanie. back to you. >> sam brock giving us what's going on. let's find out what it means to you and bring in dr. kavita patel, msnbc medical contributor, fellow at the brookings institution and former health official in the obama administration. dr. patel, i want to start with the rate of vaccinations going down 20% in the last two weeks. it has a lot of people concerned but should we be or does that number represent the fact that lots of us have already been vaccinated and we don't need it again? >> that's absolutely right, stephanie. it's the inflection point it's reflecting we had incredible demand with lower supply. we reached a shift now which many of us knew what happened, where now supply is going to
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exceed demand. it's just a question of how to get through those last populations that either do not want it or have some reservations and want to wait and we want to try to bring them forward. >> let's talk about those 8 million people who did not go back for their second shot. for me 8 million sounds like a big number. the white house says no, not by historical standards. what do you think? >> no, it's not. i administer multi dose vaccines for other purposes and we see as high as sometimes 50% drop-off for a second or third dose. i'm not saying it's a good thing. i want to reiterate what we need to do know, some of those people, 8 million, stephanie, they want that second shot. it was just horribly inconvenient to get it. my message to those people, it is easier to get now, get it, even if it's past that 21 or 28-day window, it's far better to get that second shot to boost immunity. >> it's great johnson & johnson is back on track but for all of
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those people who were already vaccine hesitant, has the damage been done? >> i think it has. i think the pause was the right thing to do but nobody understood kind of definition behind a pause. the pause wasn't a red flag to say this wasn't safe. it was a pause to literally be able to wash out and look at the data in real world evidence. unfortunately, i think it's caused even more confusion amongst americans and given, stephanie, an opportunity for vaccine myth prop gants to actually take ahold of that and say if it's only quote/unquote six cases, what else are they hiding? and that's entirely false and untrue. but we're hoping to work through this and get people vaccinated. >> to convince more people to be vaccinated, do there need to be more incentives or even requirements? when you read you could possibly travel to europe, that could be a bonus for people but there's also at this point at least 30 colleges saying to students you cannot come back to campus if
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you're not vaccinated and we know college kids do not like being home. >> that's right. not just college kids but i think a lot of us do not want to be home anymore. i think they're absolutely right. you're getting into something i know you covered in the business sector the behavioral economic and sigh kol ji of this. people will not flock to mass vaccination sites so we need to understand how to get it to them. number one, i have been telling people hesitant, what is something you miss doing before covid, what are activities you miss doing? you're going to be able to do those. what i worry about for people who are shy of getting it, stephanie, we've got -- whether we call it a mandate or not, unspoken mandates. we will see people pay premium to be in places that are vaccinated for hotels and restaurants. that means people who are not will be further and further marginalized and they're usually women of color. let's be clear about what you can do, what you miss doing and how you can have access to that and it's safe to do it. >> it is good that people in the
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u.s. are focused on getting back in this recovery. but i want to switch gears and talk to you about a country that's not, the crisis unfolding in india. i know this is a place where you have family, you have friends. i want to start by sharing a bit of a report from our colleague, richard engel. we should warn people, it's tough to watch. >> reporter: in india's capital, so many are dyeing from covid now, they're overwhelmed with bodies. for relatives and loved ones, it's an undignified and heartbreaking way to say good-bye. with no room inside the cream tomorrow yums, hindu funeral pyres are set up in open lots. many of india are dyeing from lack of oxygen, so critical for ventilation care. >> what is your reaction to this? because while india did have a lockdown a year ago, modi, the indian p.m., he said vaccine shortages are political, he's downplayed this, he's encouraged large groups to get together?
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>> stephanie, that's right, the policy person is aghast. it's not that people can say we didn't expect this or see it coming, that's entirely untrue. we had concern about several mutations out of india several months ago. so to say this caught them by surprise -- by the way, lockdowns, because of lack of access to oxygen and hospital beds, people are traveling inside the country because they have no options. that reflects poorly on not only the world's largest democracy but prime minister modi. the us is stepping up, other countries are stepping up but it's no substitute for having leadership. >> they've got to do it there. kavita, always good to see you, dr. kavita patel, always makes us smarter every time she's here. now let's turn to d.c., where president biden is approaching an important mark for him, the 100th day in office. that will be later this week. huge speech in congress just two
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days from now. we will be in washington to cover it. nbc senior white house reporter shannon pettypiece, and guess who's at 30 rock with me? national correspondent steve conary at -- where else -- the big board to break down the last 30 days. shannon, talk to us about this speech and how president biden is going to be laying out his agenda going forward? >> this speech is going to come on his 99th day, so symbolic in that regard. be they expect him to highlight what he sees his biggest accomplishment over the last 100 days, particularly the 200 million shots administered, $1,500 stimulus checks that have been sent out. but the white house is indicating to look for him to be looking towards the next 100 days and beyond. a big part of that will be laying out this next phase of his infrastructure proposal, which is what the white house is calling this american families plan. it is going to propose providing
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universal pre-k, free community college, expanding the childcare tax credit until 2025, and the president is going to lay out ways to pay for that as well. it will come with a $1.5 trillion price tag. so no indication he's stopping with the $2 trillion infrastructure proposal. there's more ahead, and this is how he sees the following 200 days going. >> mr. kornacki, walk us through this 100-day poll. i'm so happy to see you. >> i'm always happy to see you. let's go through what biden's approval rating is 100 days in and our poll clocks in 53%, low 50% range, been pretty steady for this early phase of the biden presidency. what can you say about that? you can say two things about it. number one, if you compare him to his immediate predecessor, donald trump, donald trump in his entire four years as
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president never got above 50% in terms of job approval. biden has been over 50% consistently for the first 100 days of his presidency. that number also, that 53%, low 50% range, that is also below what his other modern predecessor, non-trump predecessors were getting at this point. in between for joe biden. if they go a little deeper into the numbers here, here's another way to look at it, positive/negative score. we just showed you job approval. this is about your personal feelings towards joe biden. you can see in our poll, 50% positive, 36% negative. put that in some context, some other things we polled here on the same question, democratic party a little under water there, 39 positive, 41 negative. the republican party, significantly underwater. 32/46 negative. donald trump, you don't necessarily hear or see from him as much but certainly he's still very present in our politics.
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trump 32% positive, 55% negative rating. so put biden's positive score there in that context. you can also look at this, we asked folks how would you say biden started as president? would you call it a good or great start? would you call it a fair or poor start? more chose fair or poor. now we can compare this to his most recent predecessor because we asked the same question at the same point at the trump presidency. you see 44% say biden is off to a greater good start. at this same point four years ago, 35% said that about donald trump. a higher rating there for biden than trump but if you go back eight years before trump to april 2009 when barack obama was president, that was 54. again, biden is in between trump and what came before trump. also, where does biden get his highest and lowest mark as president? here's where he gets his highest marks, handling of the
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attempting to serve him with a search and arrest warrant related to drug charges. deputies are heard on dispatch saying brown had a gunshot wound to his back. there are growing calls to police to release this footage. >> we're showing the entire world and all of america how you protest and get what you want. this is how we get justice, and this is what justice looks like. >> several protests took place across the country throughout the weekend following multiple fatal shootings involving law enforcement in just the last few weeks. we have our team of reporters covering the latest. i want to start where we began with kathy park in elizabeth, north carolina. it's been five days since andrew brown jr. was shot to death. why hasn't this body-cam footage been released? >> steph, good morning to you. the delay is fueling a lot of the frustration on the ground here among community members as
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well as families because they want to know exactly what happened. but here in north carolina a judge needs to sign off on the release of the body-cam footage. we've learned city officials and sheriffs will put in the formal request today. we are standing in front of the sheriff's office where later on this morning the family of andrew brown and their attorneys, they say they plan on seeing this body camera footage. they're hopeful but it's not a guarantee. meanwhile, you mentioned there's very few details about what exactly took place several days ago, wednesday morning. we know deputies were attempting to serve a search-and-arrest warrant on felony drug-related charges and things took a deadly turn. seven deputies are on administrative leave. an outside sheriff's office will be coming in to look into this further to see if there are any sort of disciplinarian actions that need to be taken. once again, a lot of frustration here among the community. they want answers. you have them chanting here
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behind me. there's a small crowd gathered in front of the sheriff's office in anticipation of the body camera footage. >> kathy, forgive me, state of emergency sounds very serious, but what does it actually mean? >> well, this just came out a few minutes ago. essentially the mayor put this out and it comes amid the growing controversy surrounding the shooting of andrew brown jr. but once again, there's little that the sheriff's department has released about this footage so they are gearing up for what could be -- what could be -- i want to stress that -- could be potential unrest as we see across the country. i can tell you over the past several days, ever since the shooting took place, protests, there have been protests but they have been very peaceful, steph. >> kathy, thank you. we've also seen protests in the state of virginia, where i want to go next. josh lederman is standing by. josh, where you are with the
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family of 32-year-old isaiah brown say he was unarmed and shot repeatedly by a sheriff's deputy and he's now in the hospital fighting for his life. what in the world happened? >> this all started about 2:30 in the morning on wednesday, stephanie. when isaiah brown caught a ride home from a gas station where his car had broken down, the deputy drove him home. just a few minutes later there was some type of altercation with his brother at home. he can be heard on the 911 voice recording threatening to kill his brother. at one point in time he references a gun but later told the dispatcher he does not have in fact have a gun on him. it's later the same deputy returns to the scene where isaiah brown is outside of his house, that incident caught on the officer's body-cam footage, which we will show you here. we should warn you, this can be
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disturbing to listen to. >> show me your hands now! show me your hands! drop the gun! he's got a gun to his head! drop the gun now! drop the gun now! stop! stop walking towards me! stop! >> isaiah brown did not in fact have a gun, stephanie. he had the cordless house phone he used to speak to dispatchers. the state police said they are taking over the investigation into this. the family of isaiah brown through a lawyer has said this whole incident was completely avoidable given that he had told the dispatcher at one point he didn't in fact have a gun. they will be holding a news conference to address their concerns this afternoon, stephanie. >> kathy and josh, stay close. as you get updates, please come back to us. coming up next -- exclusive announcement you will only see here. major move to help the millions of kids who are food insecure.
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markets just about to open to kick off what is expected to be a massive week on wall street, with the sixth largest stocks in the s&p, apple, microsoft, google, amazon, facebook and tesla all set to report their earnings. cnbc's senior markets correspondent, our dear friend dom chu joins us with the latest. dom, these make up 25% of the din ex. that's almost $10 trillion in market cap. how significant will this be? i mean, it's basically like the whole market is reporting. >> it is crazy, stephanie. the reason why it's such a huge deal and the reason why myself and my colleagues here at cnbc will be very busy, in addition to the market cap that you just mentioned here, first of all, s&p 500 is a market cap weighted index, so those companies that have the most market value carry the most sway in the overall market but beyond just the 25% market cap you mentioned, we're talking about a third of all s&p companies reporting this week, a
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third of the dow industrial average, ten of the stocks in the 170 will report this week as well. the whole reason for the catalyst in this market comes at a time where over the last year the market narrative is so driven by what happened during the covid-19 pandemic. now this year things are starting to normalize in a relative capacity, we still have a long ways to go, but it will show whether they have results or commentary forward looking that tells us things are, in fact, on track to get back to normal. that's why these results will be so important and why they could, with markets near record highs, stephanie, really provide a catalyst one way or another. is it justified the stock market is at record highs right now? that is something that remains to be seen. >> let's talk about compensation being justified. there's a report out of the highest paid ceos in 2020. on the list, hilton, mgm casinos
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and cruise lines. some of the hardest-hit industries, companies that laid off thousands of and thousands of people and lost billions of dollars. i completely get ceos do not come cheap and you need a really good one in a time of crisis, but don't these paydays seem completely out of whack, you get the payday of your life during the worst year imaginal for your company? >> there's no doubt, stephanie, the numbers just do not connect. they do not compute in this whole function. if you have a situation with a ceo of a company that's been beaten up, beleaguered, the company's just been a huge victim of the pandemic, you're laying off thousands of employees, there should be no reason why those people are getting paid millions and millions of dollars. the reason why this is a little bit stranger right now is because of the way many of these types of compensation packages are actually put together. in some cases, these ceos actually don't make much of a salary. when i say don't make much, some people take the symbolic $1 an annual salary.
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others take x thousands here and there. but the bulk for many of these type of compensation packages comes in stock and therein lies the moral hazard. if you're talking about a company that is hypothetically taking millions and maybe even billions of dollars worth of taxpayer money in those particular industries, if those particular taxpayer fundouts have held propped up your stock that is awarded is worth more, that becomes a moral hazard. for a lot of folks who look at this, their saying maybe the compensation scheme in america should be changed because there's no reason why in a situation like a crisis like that, when you're laying off thousands of employees, that a ceo should be making that kind of money. but you have to turn to you how much was awarded in stock? and you i know near the depths of the pandemic, stock numbers were pressed. if the market has come back
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because of taxpayer funding or taxpayer support for fed monetary policy, that will be the moral hazard a lot of observers have to get their arms around. >> the fed steps in to rescue these companies in times of distress. the fed's action, the money they used with taxpayer dollars, rescue these companies, their stock comes back. who gets rewarded? the executives from these same companies. something to think about. dom chu, thank you. now we have to turn to exclusive new reporting. later today the biden administration will announce a program to feed more than 30 million low-income children as part of the american rescue plan. seems stunning we're covering both of these topics in one segment. parents will receive $375 to spend on food for the ten weeks their kids are out of school this summer. each year more than 29 million rely on free and reduced-priced meals during the school year, something that proved to be a very big challenge when school shut down during the pandemic. still, as our nation recovers,
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food insecurity remains a massive problem for families across this country. according to a new survey from the u.s. census bureau, more than 11% of american households with children struggle with hunger. that's nearly 30 million households. joining us now to discuss one of the administration officials behind this new program, u.s. secretary of agriculture tom vilsack. secretary, thank you for joining us. you're giving families $375. how do you ensure they use it on food for their kids and that it's going to the families that need it most? >> stephanie, the check -- the cards are going to go to families of free and reduced lunch youngsters. so those lined up at schools that have identified as free introduced lunch. states know who they are. they will be distributing the cards to the families and they will be able to use it at the grocery store to purchase fruits and vegetables and good food. we will trust parents to do the right thing for their child.
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the reality is oftentimes they don't is because they don't have the financial resources to do so. this will give them an added boost along with other things the biden/harris administration have done to help families struggling through this pandemic. i'm excited about this. this is a good day for america's children. it covers children with free lunch and children under age 6 if they live in a s.n.a.p. family. it gives them a little extra cash to go to the grocery store to be able to afford fruits and vegetables so important. this is about child health and frankly their educational opportunities. the healthier they are, the more likely they will be better learners. this is about trying to stem the obesity issue that we have. there are so many good reasons why this is a good policy and it's the first time we've ever done this. we know it works. we tried it experimentally over the last couple of years and we know it improves nutritional outcomes for kids. >> why are we suffering so much. even in the last year congress has already given out multiple stimulus checks.
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we have expanded unemployment to extend through december and we're about to get increased child tax credits this summer and luckily people are going back to work. why is it that so many people are still food insecure? when you look at food bank lines, they're still hours long. >> we have millions unemployed and folks whose hours have probably been cut. there's a lot of financial stress associated with the pandemic. there's a lot of concern and the result is you need a comprehensive approach and the biden/harris team provided that comprehensive approach. in addition to the stimulus checks folks received, there's also housing assistance and rental assistance to help people make their house or rent payment. this is nutrition assistance across the board. families who have been struggling financially, one of the places they have to really focus is what they can buy at the grocery store. you give them a little extra cash, they're in position to buy the fruits and vegetables we all want folks to have access to.
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and i'm confident that's what families are going to do. it's an exciting opportunity for us to showcase the need for filling that gap between the 181 days of school where children receive school breakfast or school lunch, with the opportunity to make sure they're also receiving good nutrition during the summer months. >> you mentioned it is a much-needed boost. how do we turn this in to a long-term solution because it was a long-term problem before the pandemic hit. >> well, i think the key here is for us to take a look at the nutrition assistance programs we have and ask the question whether or not they're meaningful and adequate. whether the benefits are conveniently used, whether people who are basically qualifying for programs or actually participating in programs, give you an example, our wic program that provides opportunities for young parents and children to have access to benefits. we have work to do across the
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country, work to do to try to expand participation. it's one of the reasons why the american rescue plan involves and included resources that allows us to do that in an innovative way. it's an exciting opportunity to transform the food system, providing adequate benefits and providing the education, information, incentives so people make healthy choices for themselves and their children. >> if people have access to these programs, we have to make sure they're getting the benefit. secretary vilsack, thank you very much. i appreciate you joining us this morning. we have breaking news from the white house. we just found out as early as tomorrow president biden will announce new cdc guidance wearing mask outdoors. there's been much debate over the last weeks. according to a source familiar with the discussion, there will likely be guidance for fully vaccinated people and different rules for those who are not. as soon as we find out more, we will let you know. coming up -- six months after trump's defeat in arizona, republicans there are using the
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desire for self-defense, and the challengers of this law say it makes it virtually impossible for ordinary citizens to carry a gun. so the supreme court will take up this issue in the fall. does the second amendment say to keep and bear arms, what does it say about the right to carry a gun outside the home? it was in 2008 the supreme court said for the first time the second amendment does apply to an individual's right to have a gun, but what the court said then was a right to have a gun at home for self-defense. and since then, there's been a number of cases asking -- a number of times, the people asked the court to take up this issue of guns outside the home but it's consistently ducked it. why the change? well, you can judge for yourself. three more trump appointees on the court, a more conservative court, now it's going to jump into this big second amendment issue, stephanie. >> pete, thank you. and this morning apple announced it will add 20,000 new jobs across the country over the next five years as part of a
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$430 billion investment aimed at growing its business and helping the country recover from this pandemic. the move prompting this big question -- is a college degree still the best way to train people for these and other jobs of the future? the growing number of companies and their ceos are saying no. 30-year-old ali alcala has it all, apartment in new york city, thriving career in hr at jpmorgan chase and more than $70,000 a year in income. what she doesn't have is a college degree. did you assume that investment banks were only for college grads, ivy league school grads? >> i had no notion you would be able to get even a foot in the door without a degree. >> reporter: the global bank is actively recruiting people without college degrees through programs that pay them to train in careers like operations and consumer banking. >> i didn't have a degree. my future was extremely uncertain. and the program kind of provided a way -- clear way where i would
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be able to pursue a career path or journey. >> i only went to college because my parents made me go to college. >> reporter: mark benioff is the founder and ceo of salesforce. >> everybody thinks if you don't have a college degree in the united states, you can't be successful and it's in the true. >> reporter: the cost of a degree has risen more than $10,000 for public university and $37,000 for private and more than half graduate with $29,000 in student debt. is college even worth it? it's expensive of the. >> you can create incredible value for the world without a college degree. >> i calm to this country with a lot of aspirations. >> reporter: after emigrating from colombia, juan worked several jobs including car sales. college was out of the question. >> if i went part time, it would take me eight years to finish college and possibly come back. >> reporter: a much better alternative for juan and his growing family? free online training with sales foers that led not only to a
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job -- >> now i feel like i have a career. there are a lot of opportunities out there. >> reporter: more major cooperations are abandoning the requirement of a four-year degree. at apple, more than half of their employees don't have college employees. but this path is untested. many jobs still require a bachelor's degree be on average, a college graduate makes 67% more than a high school graduate. but as the cost of college rises, some say the returns aren't keeping pace. >> the idea that to make a lot of money you need to go to college, that's a thing of the past? >> to make a lot of money, you just need to get the skills. you don't need to go to college. you can do it all online. >> reporter: ali sees only one reason to pursue a degree now -- >> to have it framed. >> joining us to discuss, the vice president of grow with google, a program that trains and matches applicants to a job without requiring any grej
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degree and shawn gallagher, executive director for the future of higher education at northeastern university. i want to welcome you both. lisa to you first. google is among a number of companies creating their own training programs. help us understand who is this aimed at and what kind of jobs are the participants landing after? >> sure. well, at google, we're just trying to make sure we're creating an eckable and inclusive job market. and we want to make sure anyone regardless of their educational background or work experience can get into one of these in-demand, high-growth, high-paying job fields. so we teach all of the skills they need to know to get an entry level job in i.t. data support, an liltics, user experience design or even project management. >> shawn, there's a stigma around not going to college. conventional wisdom for parents, kids who go to college can succeed. if they don't, they won't.
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is that starting to shift, especially as you look at sort of the jobs of the future? >> it is, yeah. that's something we've been researching for a number of years. this was a trend before the pandemic and especially since with the availability of all of these new types of online credentials and how affordable these alternatives to degrees have become. it's something blooming. by many measures it's up 70% or 80% in the last year. companies have been shifting their hiring practices. google is an example, apple and ibm and many others found they need to go to alternative pools of talent and look beyond simply relying on a college degree. something people would be shocked by is how not rigorous the process of setting a qualification for a job is and that's starreding to change based on technology and based on the changes we see in the economy. >> lisa, companies like google or salesforce or what we just announced apple with 20,000 jobs over the next five years, how essential is it to create jobs like this to address the skills
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gap? even before the pandemic we had people in this country struggling. minimum wage is not enough to support adults in this country. but none of the jobs we're talking about are minimum wage jobs. will this finally address that skills gap and give americans the skills they need for those higher-paying jobs? >> oh, my gosh, absolutely. as you're saying, stephanie, 80 million american workers, two-thirds of american workers do not have a college degree. until now they really felt locked out of good jobs. we absolutely need to change that. and i think programs like this are really an important step because they teach you everything you need to know to be job ready in these fields. but more importantly, what we're doing at google is working with the entire ecosystem. so we're partnering with other employers. we have 150 employers who have signed on to hire graduates from our certificate program. and we're also working with educational institutions like northeastern, like 100 community colleges around the country and
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with workforce development boards. as you said, there's 10 million americans unemployed at this very moment so we're working closely with the workforce development boards around the country to make sure folks have access to training to get into high paying and high-growth career fields. on average the fields we teach pay an entry level salary of $69,000 a year or more. and there's 1.3 million jobs in these four career fields. open right now in the u.s., but not enough people trained for them. >> sean, when we think about new jobs, we immediately default to young people. but do programs like this start to address atheism for people who are older who are in the workforce and want better jobs and trying to get back in, they don't necessarily have the technology skills. these technologies didn't exist when they went to school. how much does things like this help them? >> right. that's one of the opportunities here. because these programs are online and affordable tend to mean you don't have to stop your
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job to go off and earn a degree. you can do something that might take you just a few weeks and with a very minimal investment in many cases. it also points out you can often take credits from these type of programs and stack them into a later tack them into another degree. getting a bachelors or masters degree. so it takes a whole eco system. >> if you have a kid going to an ivy league school, they're not turning down harvard for this. we know many kids might need a gap year, they're looking at community college, and kids that are not ready are spending a lot of money in college that getting there nowhere but in more debt. >> for sure, this year we announced that we're bringing these career certificates to
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career and technical high schools around the country. absolutely we want them telling people about the programs because they're a great onramp into high paying and high growth careers for everyone. >> thank you both for joining us this morning. that is certainly news you can use. still ahead, almost six months after the presidential election, people in maricopa county are still looking for trump votes. how about people who helped biden win in the state? helped biden win in the state da. great job! [moo] you're welcome. breyers natural vanilla is made with 100% grade a milk and cream and only sustainably farmed vanilla. better starts with breyers. we started with computers. we didn't stop at computers. we didn't stop at storage or cloud. we kept going. working with our customers to enable the kind of technology that can guide an astronaut back to safety.
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let's go to arizona where they are recounting votes still. we are checking in voters in phoenix. vaughn, what is going on with this audit, who is counting the ballots, and my most important question, who is paying for this noise? >> good question. we don't know who are these hand counters. we don't know who is paying for this audit. this is the republican lead state senate. and you'll recall maricopa
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county, and arizona flipped as a state as a whole and it is the state senate that hired an outside consultancy firm called cyberer ninjas. we don't know where they're getting their funding. we don't know who they hired to count the ballots, but the head of the vote spread election conspiracies that they thought donald trump won the election in november. that's who has their hands on these 2.1 million ballots. a lot of serious questions here this week. >> and oan is watching this. also president biden, we have been talking about, about to reach 100 days this week. for a majority of voters, how do they think he is doing? >> yeah, can i wanted to go reach out to some republicans
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that voted for joe biden least election. there is not only a governor's race in 2022, but mark kelly is up for his senate reelection again this upcoming november of 2022. that's why these republicans that helped turn the state in favor of joe biden, where do they see this administration? where do they see the democratic lead congress going. i went this weekend to meet up with trudy and larry. i asked them what do you think of them now? take a listen. >> i have tremendous everyone thi for him and the problems he is facing. i think he is doing a great job. we have someone serious. someone who has moral character
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and ethics. larry says the insurrection was his coupe degras. he said i may be considering myself a conservative democrat. stephanie, the state of play here in arizona. >> a whole new party. coming up in the next hour, we'll take you back to arizona where arizona's secretary of state will join hallie jackson live. for me, that does it this hour. i'm stephanie ruhle, thank you for watching this very busy news hour. hallie jackson has coverage after the break. hour hallie jackson has coverage after the break. nothing but che till you find the perfect slice... even if everyone asks you... another burger truck? don't listen to them! that means cooking day and night until you get... [ ding ] you got paid! that means adding people to the payroll. hi mom. that means... best burger ever. intuit quickbooks helps small businesses
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