andrew park jr. sheriff best, thank you, as well. that's going to do it for me this hour. "andrea mitchell reports" starts now. ♪♪ ♪♪ >> and good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in washington, at the beginning of a high-stakes, high-performance week for president biden's presidency, with history being made as two women, kamala harris and nancy pelosi will be sitting behind him on the podium. it is also the passing of his first 100 days in office and tomorrow the anticipated new guidance from the cdc that fully vaccinated people do not have to wear masks outdoors. the president and the vice president will be traveling to georgia. that state, of course, delivering their narrow democratic majority in the senate to mark the first 100 days. >> our new nbc news wall street journal poll is one of new

national polls showing strong approval numbers, all north of 50% for a president looking to push more sweeping legislation through a divided congress. joining me now msnbc national political correspondent steve kornacki at the big board and jeff bennett. steve, first to you with the numbers and the numbers from the first nbc news poll, much better than his predecessors and not hitting the heights president obama enjoyed. >> the 53% approval rating in the new nbc news poll. the benchmark we were always looking at with donald trump for the fur years of his presidency, could trump break a 50% approval rating and the answer is no. for four years as president he was never able to get above 50%. biden is there now and he's been there consistently for the first hundred days and if you are comparing biden and trump on the poll numbers and biden has consistently been out of the gate, when you compare to other

modern president, non-trump modern presidents and biden would be a tick or so below then and we can dive deeper into these numbers and we have a positive or negative view of joe biden and this is more of a personal measure. do you like the person is what's being asked here. 50% positive view of biden and 36% negative view of biden and put that into context and we were asked about the democratic party and what do you think about that? a little bit under water and 31%, 41 negative and the republicans more significantly under water. 32 positive and 46% negative. donald trump, the former president now 32% positive, 55% negative for trump. also there's this. how do you rate the start that biden's gotten as president. would you call it great or good? 44% say he's off to a great start or a good start as

president. 55% say he's off to a fair or poor start as president. this is where it's interesting to compare to his recent predecessors because at this same point, a hundred days into the trump presidency four years ago we asked the same question, 35% at this point four years ago said that trump was off to a great start or a good start. biden clocking in stronger than trump, but if you went back to obama, a hundred days into the obama presidency in 2009, a majority 54% rated his start as president as great or good. so, yes, biden kind of in between where trump was or obama was before him, andrea. >> and steve, just for a moment, is immigration the biggest setback for him, the biggest weight on those poll numbers? >> exactly. look at it this way, rate biden on the issues. here's where he gets his strongest marks handling of the coronavirus, nearly 70% approval and here's where he gets his lowest mark as president, border

security and immigration more than 60% say they disapprove how biden's been handling that. >> going on to jeff. let's look toward the president's plans moving forward and a lot coming up in the big speech coming on wednesday night to the joint session of congress. he's got a lot of support for the white house infrastructure plan, but not so much inside the republican senate, of course, for the second part of which he'll be unveiling wednesday night. >> i can tell you having talked to a white house official about this, they're positive that the president's approval rating would be higher, if not for the increased polarization, but yes, you're right on wednesday, the president, i'm told would lay out the second phase of his job and infrastructure plan as the white house is billing as the human infrastructure plan and the president wants to transform the american economy to work for working people, as he puts it.

this is how the white house is going try to change the economy post-pandemic. so the human infrastructure part of this bill focuses on increasing access to child care, increasing paid family leave and increasing access to free community college. it has roughly a $ 1.5 trillion price tag. republicans are generally against this and republican politicians and the white house is far more invested in what republican voters think, but there is one complicating factor here for the white house in that democrats aren't entirely onboard with this. joe manchin, the democrat from west virginia gave an interview yesterday and he suggested that he wants to see the physical infrastructure bill separated from the so-called social spending human infrastructure bill and he also wants it to go through the regular order on capitol hill. he wants this bill to be hashed out in committee before it moves to the floor for an amendment process, but that takes time,

andrea, and you know, political capital is a finite resource and the longer this process takes, there could be hiccups that pop up and you have both the white house saying they want a movement on this by memorial day and nancy pelosi wants to pass it in the house by the august recess, andrea. >> jeff bennett and steve kornacki, thanks to both of you and joining us now our political gurus, david ploeff, and former republican national committee chairman michael steele. welcome all. david, the last two presidents both had very rough midterm election results in their first terms. what do these numbers tell you, what warning signs, if any, are you seeing for president biden? >> i don't think the white house should be worrying about midterms and the pandemic which trump ignored and made much worse.

the economy which collapsed, you've got issues around immigration and climate change where the president, i think, is showing great leadership as recently as last week on the latter. so their focus should be let's get them on the other side of the pandemic and let's do everything we can to strengthen the economy where joe biden is uniquely suited to talk about that. midterms, there's so much we don't know. are republicans going to get strong turnout in a post-trump election, what happens with redistricting? >> so right now all you can do is do the right thing and if you do that, that tends to be with politics and -- [ indiscernible ] to make assumptions about what november may look like. right now the crisis ease have more work in front of them and they have more to do with this

infrastructure package and the resulting changes are priority number one as they continue to get the vaccinations out and that's where the focus needs to stay. >> stephanie, you've been roundabout with the previous white house in the past and democratic campaigns, health care like what they've done on covid with the pandemic has so far been really strong numbers. you know what it's like to be inside during the first hundred days and what are you seeing now and critical for the administration to gain control on something as big as infrastructure. >> i actually think they're doing a pretty good job. they need to stay focused on one essential thing to make sure that the american people understand what's in that, and i think there's a reason even in the nbc poll, people want it, people want their roads and

bridges fixed and the white house is singularly focused on making sure those people, the moms driving and picking up their kids from school now that schools are opening thanks to the biden, american rescue plan. people trying to get -- doing delivery services and small businesses trying to make ends meet and they need infrastructure and the white house is making sure that those people know exactly how this piece of legislation will help them. if they can do that and believe me, if we've all learned the hard way on the necessity to do that, you know, with the affordable care act or the recovery act, people need to understand the intricacies of what's in these bills and the white house is doing a pretty good job of reaching out. >> but just let me follow up to you as well and the republican senate seems immune to

republican opinion among their own constituents and they don't seem to be recognizing the popularity of a lot of these initiatives. stephanie, first to you. do you see that disconnect? >> do i see that disconnect? >> yes, i've seen that disconnect for a very long time that the republican senate is out of step with even their own constituents in terms of wanting them to actually do their jobs and take action on their behalf. i think we'll have to see how this plays out. you know, i read a comment from someone from the white house this morning saying the american people don't care how this gets done. they just want it to get done. so we'll have to see how this plays out and you know, there's movement on finding a compromise. senator is -- as it has been since day one of the biden white house, they are looking at how to take action. what is that action? how can they keep those things moving? so with that in mind, maybe

there's room for a compromise, maybe there's movement in the senate for regular order and senator manchin wants. it's too soon to tell. this is the beginning of that process and again, the american people don't care how it gets done, they just want to make sure that it gets done. >> michael steele and by the way, loved seeing you in the anchor chair last night. that was fun. great job. so one of the biden voters whom our pollster spoke to said the best thing about joe biden was that he didn't have to think about him every day, a departure from his predecessor and the biden supporters may not be as rabid or loyal when the going gets tough. >> that's a real concern, but i think people are still connected into a lot of what is happening with this administration to both points recently made that hey, folks want to get it done.

stephanie's got it right. folks want to get it done and the difference is for me that if you're going to compare and contrast this leadership, when you look at a president who rolls his sleeves up and sitting down next to the neighbors and sitting down next to conversations with everyday folks about this is what we're going to do, i think people are responding to that, and so i know republicans want to look at this through a strictly partisan lens and they want to make this out to be a moment in which they can demagogue on socialism and culture wars and all of that, but folks want to put the kids back in school. folks want to get the vaccine. folks want to go back to work and they want to open their shops and they want to go to the restaurant, go to the bar and get ready for the summer and biden is creating that lane for them to do that. so this counter negative narrative of trying to position biden as something other than what the american people are actually seeing, i don't think

it works in the short term. long term, to david's point, may be a concern down the point how they navigate that space when you get closer to the midterms and right now the president has the upper hand and it's reflected in the polling and he's talking to the american people and exhibiting leadership and demonstrating his concern and compassion, he's not looking backward and he's looking forward. the american people appreciate that because it's the first time they've seen that in six years. >> let me do a rapid round to all of you. for the first time ever it's a joint session. we're going to see two women, kamala harris and nancy pelosi sitting on the podium behind the president. david, your thoughts? >> it's going to be awesome. that visual is so powerful, but andrea, very quickly to your point about polls. >> 21% of the people opposed infrastructure and half of the people who voted for donald trump don't oppose it, but that is what's driving our politics

on immigration, on the pandemic and the economy on infrastructure. the vast majority of the american people support measures including vast majority of republicans and the people that drive republican primaries don't and that will be the question on the midterms and can democrats pay a price for nominating people in swing districts and senate races who are out of step for not just the american electorate and a lot of republican voters generally. >> and quickly, stephanie, seeing those two women? >> just imagine being a young girl across the country seeing those two women behind the president of the united states. the only thing that would be better would be having a woman standing at the podium giving that speech and some day that will happen, but it is a pretty historical moment of what we're about to see wednesday might. >> just imagine if it was a woman at the podium and two women behind her, as well. michael steele. >> you'd give me a big amen on that. >> amen. i love history. i love watching it unfold right

in front of our eyes, and i love the fact that the american people had a hand in shaping that history. we need to do more of that as citizens to get the kind of government leadership that we need that best reflects our values, our principles and represents us well, and i think what you'll see on that podium wednesday night is a good example of that. >> thanks to all. david ploeff and stephanie, and michael steele. >> two families demanding answers today after one of the victims has died and the other is now fighting for his life. in elizabeth city, north carolina, a state of emergency has been declared after andrew brown jr. was fatally shot by police last wednesday while being served a warrant on felony drug charges. seven officers have been placed on paid administrative leave. the attorneys saying the body cam video has still not been seen due to redactions being made and you've got him there

with you? >> andrea, that is right. the family members of andrew brown jr. and the attorneys were supposed to meet with the sheriff's office at 11:30 today, but right now we are kind of in this holding pattern. i want to bring in attorney ben crump who is representing the family right now. i think the big question is here we are, and you were anticipating the release of the body camera footage to family member, but what's happened? >>. >> we don't completely understand why we're not watching the video with our clients now. me and my co-counsels were informed verbally and in writing that we would be able to see the video with the family members at 11:30 and then we got notified about an hour beforehand, that well, they want to redact the video, and we said, hold on? why are you redacting the video? the family has a right to see

the video? and so it's a delay tactic because apparently there is something so damning on that video that they continue to delay, delay, delay, and as the crowds chanted, they don't need to say anymore, just show the video. the truth is going to come out. a lie cannot live. andrew brown was unjustifiably killed yet again, an unarmed black man being unjustly killed in america. can we go just one week without the police killing a black person unjustifiably? >> so, have you been able to get in touch with the sheriff directly? do we know if it's going to be released today? will it be a couple of hours or days? >> no. we've been told that we'll be able to see the video very soon today. they're doing their redactions for whatever reason. it's very troubling because when you really think about what's going on, they released a warrant with andrew brown saying

everything about him, assassinating his character, but andrew brown didn't kill anybody. the people who killed andrew brown, they want to protect their identity and protect their rap sheet, but they want to blast andrew brown's rap sheet out there because that's the playbook. they tried to assassinate the character of black people once they kill us because they want to say they're not worthy of a consideration, america, while we are here to proclaim our brothers and sisters who they kill are worthy of their consideration, respect and humanity. >> you know, this is day five since the shooting. quickly, how is the family doing at this hour? >> obviously devastated. they want answers. why would you shoot a man in the back going away from you? that's one of the most cowardly things a person can do and yet it happens over and over again to black people especially black

men in america. you know, they don't shoot white men in the back, but shooting black men in the back is almost like a cliche, and i don't know why it's the most dangerous thing to police for a black man to run away from you. you have mass murderers, whether it's the parkland shooter, they took him alive, whether you're talking about the killer with the asian spas and they took him alive and dylann roof they took him alive. there are two justice systems in america apparently, one for white america and another for black america and we need to have equal justice for the united states of america. >> mr. crump, i know you'll be waiting and we'll be on standby, too, but you are hopeful that potentially this could be later on today. >> we fully anticipate seeing that video today. >> all right.

mr. crump, thank you very much for your time. andrea, back to you. >> kathy park and benjamin crump. kathy, please give our thanks to the attorney, as well. and what president biden's recognition of the armenian genocide means for a relationship with a key nato ally. plus exit afghanistan, the u.s. beginning to hand over bases ahead over the official withdrawal on september 11th. the top democrat, the chairman of the armed forces committee jack reed is with us next. you are watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. repc ♪ ♪ i had the nightmare again maxine. the world was out of wonka bars... relax. you just need digital workflows. they help keep everyone supplied and happy, proactively. let's workflow it. then you can stop having those nightmares. no, i would miss them too much. whatever you business is facing... let's workflow it.

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president biden on saturday became the first u.s. president to acknowledge the killing of more than a million armenians by ottoman turks in 1915 as genocide. it is a word that has not been used, but it was a pledge that he made during the campaign. biden spoke to president erdogan for the first time on friday to

alert him of that decision. joining me now is jack reed, the chairman of the armed services committee. it is in favor of the president's decision and turkey's foreign minister said words cannot change and re-write history and we have nothing to learn about anybody about our own past and political opportunists is a betrayal -- >> what ramifications do you expect? >> i think this is long overdue. we are joining other nations like canada, france and germany, to recognize that this was the action of the ottoman empire in 1916, 1917. i know this is a very sensitive topic in turkey. i brought it up when i traveled to turkey with turkish leaders, but i think we are on the side of history and hopefully we can

move on. there are many factors that bring us together. there are common nato membership. our support for what was a strong, democratic turkey. lately, erdogan is being much more autocratic, but i think this will really set the historical record straight. i don't anticipate that this will complicate a relationship many more than several other factors such as their acquisition of russian missile technology. we have a bumpy road, but i think this is the right thing to do. >> let's talk about afghanistan, as well. of course, the withdrawal is now under way. we are turning over bases. despite concerns that, of course, the taliban can regroup. we've heard that from the cia and we've heard that from the -- we're talking about from the military and the generals. concern, of course, from general

mackenzie that they will have a harder time tracking down al qaeda. what are your concerns about doing this without an interim peace agreement? >> well, i don't think we'll get any time of interim agreement. this was, i think, a very difficult decision by the president and i think the calculation was basically, we could spend more time there, invest more troops and endure more casualties, but it would not ultimately turn over or allow the afghan military and their political leadership to defeat the taliban. i think really, where we are rid now is recognizing this is not closure. we're not leaving. we're transitioning. we still have security interests in the region and there are still terrorist groups there. it is not clear to me or many others that the taliban will sever its ties with al qaeda, so

we have to be on the watch and the watch is more difficult because we won't have land bases, presumably, in afghanistan. we'll have to fly further, but we'll have to maintain vigilance and the ability to disrupt and degrade any type of terrorist plot emanating from afghanistan. >> do you have concern that al qaeda can regroup and it become a terror haven again? should this very weak government in kabul fall? >> there is a distinct possibility that al qaeda can be a force and project itself around the globe. unfortunately, that is not the only ungoverned territory in the world today. we see somalia and other places in the world, we have to have a

very aggressive, anti-terrorism campaign understanding that there is a possibility in many places for these types of groups to begin to plot and to plan, but we -- are capable of it. we are listening to general mackenzie and it's difficult, but certainly not impossible and we can't turn away and we're leaving the region and we still have vital interests to protect the question of the government's stability is critical question. one that the country breaks up into sectors as it did prior to our involvement with with the northern alliance with the pashtun control in the northern part and that could be the future or there could be some type of compromised government.

one of the factors that has change side that there is a sense. i don't want to put too much premium on it, but there is a sense that the taliban, one needs international support or like international recognition and they'll only get that if they are willing to accommodate some of the demands of the international community. >> senator jack reed, the armed services chairman, thank you very much, sir. >> very good. the family of a black man in virginia now in critical condition after a police-involved shooting speaking out. they and their attorneys are revealing just within the past hour. stay with us. this is andrea mitchell reports on msnbc. mitchell reports msnbc >> tech: every customer has their own safelite story.

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attorney said brown was shot ten times. >> this country is divided. it's not one race. it's a lot of minorities that walk in daily fear. it's a fear that nobody should have to feel. >> my concern at this point is just for my son to hopefully come home alive. that's all i have to say right now. >> nbc news correspondent josh letterman was at that press conference in fredericksburg, virginia. what do we know about the shooting itself and what are officials saying, what is the condition of mr. brown? >> well, officials initially, andry a said that isiah brown had non-life-threatening injuries and now his family and their attorney says that's false. they say he's currently hooked up to a breathing machine in the hospital. they describe his situation as touch and go. he's had multiple surgeries in which two out of ten bullets that they say were shot into isiah brown were removed leaving

another eight bullets still in his body. this all apparently started around 2:30 in the morning when a sheriff's deputy gave, saya isaiah brown a ride home when his car had broken down. he was called to an altercation with his brother and then threatened to kill his brother before he then tells the 911 dispatcher that he, in fact, did not have a gun there. he then, after the deputies arrived, was ultimately shot by the sheriff's deputy, the same deputy who had driven him home. police releasing this recording of those moments, we should warn you, it's disturbing to watch. >> show me your hands now! show me your hands! drop the gun! >> he's got a gun to his head! >> drop the gun now! stop walking towards me! stop walking towards me! stop!

>> that is the moment in which he was shot ten times. he did not have a gun, but in fact, andrea, had a wireless house phone that he was using to speak at that very moment to the 911 dispatcher. his family now demanding that police release all communications that took place between the 911 dispatcher and the deputy who responded to see whether the information that isaiah brown had given that he did not, in fact, have a gun was passed along to the deputy and if so why the deputy officer responded the way he did, andrea? >> josh, a very troubling story, of course. thank you very much. i know you'll stay on that, and coming up, uniter in chief, as he approaches 100 days in office is president biden any closer to bringing the country back together? the man who has held almost every job in washington, leon panetta is next. you are watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. ng "a mitchell reports" on msnbc n't se or cloud.

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while the u.s. appears to be rounding the corner on the pandemic, globally, the crisis is much worse, worse than ever. no country getting hit harder than india. new covid cases and deaths have been skyrocketing. nbc's richard engel has more on the crisis facing this country. it's overwhelming hospitals, morgues and crematoriums. a warning that some of these images are disturbing. >> in india's capital, so many are dying from covid now they're overwhelmed with bodies. >> for relatives and loved ones, it's an undignified and heartbreaking way to say good-bye. with no room inside the crematoriums, hindu funeral parlors are set up in open lots. many in india are dying from a lack of oxygen, so critical for ventilation care. people line up to fill their own tanks even with prices up in some cases as much as 400%. >> i have a message for the

government to please, release some oxygen supply. people need it here. people need beds here. people need meds here. people need injections. >> this weekend, president biden announcing the immediate deployment of components for covid vaccines and medical equipment. the president tweeting sunday just as india sent assistance to the united states as our hospitals were strained early in the pandemic, we are determined to help india in its time of need. >> it's humanitarian assistance and self-defense. india has its own variant of the virus and the more the virus spreads uncontrolled, the more it mutates, potentially into a new strain that could hit the united states. >> and joining us now is dr. ashish jha, thank you for being with us. the u.s. is committed to providing india with vaccines, oxygen and raw materials.

should the administration go further and ship out astrazeneca vaccines that have been in storage? >> thank you for having me on. i believe they should. first and foremost, i thought the decision by the administration this weekend is terrific. they're doing a lot to help and i think that's great, but we do have different estimates, suggest 30 million, 40 million doses of astrazeneca vaccine sitting that we may surely never use in the united states and shouldn't be authorized to be used here and i do believe we should send them to india. it would make an enormous difference in this hour of need. >> india has been a critical supplier of components for vaccine, is this crisis, this extraordinary crisis there at home going to hamper that supply chain? >> yeah, i hope not, but i think we all worry about that. india is the world's biggest manufacturer of vaccines and many of us had seen india as the place that's going to make vaccines for the whole world. obviously, when india's being

hit very hard it both turns internally which makes sense, but also it's going to have a hard time making all of the vaccines that it needs to. so anything we can do helps india, helps america, helps the world. lots of good reasons for america to have engagement and support here. >> here at home, nbc's monica alba and the white house team learning that the president is expected to announce new cdc guidelines on wearing masks outdoors as early as tomorrow. what do you think that guidance should look like? >> we'll see what the cdc says. i do believe that the evidence has come in pretty clearly that being outside is relatively safe as long as you avoid those large, packed gatherings and any place where you'll be standing next to somebody for hours. those still remain pretty risky outside, but just being out and about is relatively safe and so i can imagine that the cdc will pull back its rex men dags on mask wearing outside and suggest that more and more people can go maskless in specific outdoor situations. it doesn't affect indoors, but

we're talking about the outdoor space. >> now, the j&j, vaccine, now that it's back in use, what about the hesitancy not only for j&j, but for other vaccines that have been caused by the pause, if you will, despite the fact that francis collins was telling chuck today yesterday, you have more risk from taking an aspirin, more risk of clotting and thrombosis from an aspirin than you do from a reaction from j&j. >> so i do think it is very important for people to understand that these are extraordinarily safe vaccines and they're much safer than many, many other medicines and vaccines that we take. that was dr. collins' point and i agree with that. i hope that people understand that certainly any concerns about the j&j, vaccine doesn't spill over to the moderna and pfizer vaccines which don't have these very rare complications. i would personally feel comfortable taking any of the

three, and i would hope that more americans are willing to get vaccinated, as well. >> i think it is happening already. we have a correspondent who in florida said that a facility that was doing 3,000 a day and the mass facility was seeing a few hundred people and there was a real drop-off in people getting the vaccine and it seems to be across all vaccines and a problem with 8% of people not returning for their second shot of moderna and pfizer. the white house is downplaying it saying that's good and it's better than people returning for the second shot of the shingles vaccine, but 8% is 8%. >> first of all, i would say it is good that 92% have come back. second, it is absolutely essential and there need be no confusion, if you want durable, protect you have to go back. for a lot of people, the inconvenience and challenge of scheduling those remain real barriers and we have to do more

outreach, and we have to let people know if you missed your second shot, don't worry about it, go get vaccinated with the second shot. even if it's late, it's better than never. >> dr. jha, thank you very much for clearing up a lot of facts for us. >> thank you. and when president biden speaks before congress he will try to go over the heads of the senate republicans and he'll try to make a case to the country that his infrastructure plan no longer means roads and bridges, but also involves broadband and child care. child care, making it possible for so many working americans to get back on the job. joining us now, leon panetta, who has served as cia director, omb director, one-time congressman, former republican, you've done it all. leon, it's great to see you. mr. secretary, many times over, what about this proposed $2 trillion infrastructure plan? the republicans are proposing a plan that's only $568 billion only. what are the chances the

republicans can get onboard and as a former budget director, do you have concerns about all of the money that is flowing out? >> there's no question, andrea, that it's a bold vision, but it's an important vision for the country to be able to finally do some investment in needed infrastructure in the country, and yes, infrastructure, i think, can be broadly defined to cover some of these other areas, but i think the most important thing for the president is to be able to convert that vision into action. it doesn't do much if he runs into the partisan gridlock that has doomed past presidencies. so he's going to have to find a way to try to get some kind of approach that can be supported by the votes he needs in the senate. that's going to be the test, really, for president biden as to whether this is just a vision or whether it becomes action.

>> so he might have to go along with some form of compromise that senators manchin and others are talking about, and joe manchin, critically. >> i think that's right. i right. i think the bottom line for any president is votes. and can he get the votes needed in order to get something passed? i think the reality is that he is not going to be able to try to just ram this through without working to try to achieve some kind of consensus here with some of the moderate republicans and some of the moderate democrats that are absolutely essential to getting the votes needed to pass it. i hope they roll up their sleeves and engage with the different senators that are trying to see if they can develop some kind of acceptable compromise. we gotta get this done.

and the only way to get it done is by working with members to be able to govern. >> how long should he wait before working across party lines on trying to get republicans to go along with his larger vision, or should he be right now rolling up their sleeves and getting to the table? >> i think it's important to get to the table as soon as possible, to try to sit down and negotiate some kind of approach here. i don't think you can just sit back and hope that ultimately if you don't get the votes, that somehow you could ram this through on reconciliation. the reality is, in order to even pass it with reconciliation, you are going to need some moderate democratic votes to be able to get it done. those moderate democrats want to see some kind of approach that will attract some bipartisan support. i think you roll up your sleeves, you send the people that you need to send to capitol

hill to sit down and to work with these senators to try to see if you can pull together an infrastructure bill that can enjoy the support that's necessary to get it done. >> the president has good numbers in our new poll. 53% approval. the biggest drag on his popularity seems to be immigration. 33% approve, 59% disapproving over the border situation. what do you see him being able to do? he inherited a lot. the surge is getting worse. >> there's no question that the immigration situation at the border is a crisis. it is absolutely important for this administration to provide the resources necessary in order to be able to process those that are coming through the border. that's the bottom line. so we need the administrative judges, we need the support systems that can care for the families.

we need to provide the resources that will be able to handle this situation and not just have it consume us. look, i think most americans understand the importance of immigration to this country. but they also don't want to see chaos. right now, we are dealing with chaos. what's needed is to have a strong approach to providing the help needed in order to get these immigrants dealt with in a human process but in an efficient process as well. that has to be done. >> i want to turn to russia. president putin has warned of a russian red line that the u.s. will regret, he says. what should our message be to vladimir putin? macron warning what would happen if navalny were to die in prison. what should we say to vladimir putin about ukraine and about navalny? >> i think the problem in the

past is that the united states conveyed a sense of weakness in dealing with russia and putin took advantage of it. in the crimea, in the ukraine, in syria, on election hacking that interfered with our elections. he basically assumed that he could get away with a lot of that. president biden on the other hand has made clear that he recognizes russia as the adversary they are. he sent some very clear messages to putin. certainly with regard to their buildup on the border with the ukraine, which was a dangerous move by the russians. i'm glad to see the russians have pulled back. but it was in part, i think, because there were some very clear messages from our allies and from the united states that he was not to do that. i think the same thing needs to be done with navalny, to send a very clear message that navalny ought to be treated in a way that protects his humanity but

also his right to be able to say what is needed in russia. putin is having some problems right now. i think that may be part of the reason he backed off of the forces that were at the ukraine. putin knows that if he doesn't resolve some of these issues himself that the protests in russia are only going to grow. his position could be threatened by that. >> thank you so much. it's always good to talk to you as we approach the 100 day mark and another president having his first speech to a joint session and two women sitting behind him for the first time, which is certainly notable, something that none of us have ever seen before. >> that's history. >> exactly. >> history being made. thanks for being with us today. join us on wednesday when we will be joined by speaker of the house, one twoft women, nancy

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