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i'm hallie jackson back with you this hour. if you are wondering where craig melvin is, he has a good reason for his absence. he just finished interviewing president biden. stick with us, because we expect craig to join us with a preview of the conversation and some of the news from that discussion. who knows when it will happen. all of it as the president hopes to build political momentum on his 100th day in office, ready to hit the road and get to georgia, the state that delivered him a democratic majority senate to help pass his proposals. he will sell his proposal to folks there. he is walking into a political battlefield over racial injustice and voting rights. you can see air force 1 getting
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ready. in moments, i will talk with a democratic congresswoman of georgia. she's the democratic party chairwoman there. what congress is doing after the address. kristin welker is at the white house. leigh ann caldwell is on the hill. we are waiting for the president to depart to georgia. he may or may not speak with reporters on the way out. he laid out these big plans. big government, big price tag. talk to us about how he is trying to sell them in georgia and in the days ahead. >> reporter: this is going to be a big sales job, hallie. you are right, that interview with craig melvin just wrapped up. we expect that president biden will be departing for georgia any minute now. that is when he is going to try to build on the case that he started to make last night, that now is the time for big
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government. this is a major departure from how presidents past have tried to enact their agenda. you go back to former president bill clinton who said the time of big government is over. well now it is back again with president biden having passed that nearly $2 trillion cvid relief package, he is now asking for another $4 trillion, which adds up to over $6 trillion, hallie, to fund things like infrastructure reform, putting money into roads, bridges as well as broadband. what he is calling human infrastructure. that goes to fund things like expanding childcare, the child tax credit, giving funds to community college, affordable health care. all of those priorities. but you have some democrats and republicans who say, this is spending run amok. it's over the top and too much and they're not going to get behind it.
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they are concerned, their counterpoint to that is that it will add to what is shaping up to be a record deficit this year. ultimately, that could wind up costing jobs down the line. that's where the debate is going to take place. of course, leigh ann will have everything on capitol hill. you can expect the president and the vice president to be on the road. he will be in georgia today as you laid out, hallie. this is a critical state, the one that delivered two senate seats to the democrats and tipped the balance of power. he is going to be in philly tomorrow. the vice president is in baltimore. the sales pitch begins. the question is, are they willing to break this big american family plan down into smaller pieces so they can possibly get it through congress? >> that tees us up for leigh ann caldwell on capitol hill. one thing i heard in conversations with conservatives is this issue, they are focusing
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on the tax issue, the tax question from president biden, what we heard unfold there. talk to us about where this goes, where you see some of the sticking points. >> reporter: hallie,s rebi pres biden laid out his agenda. it gave republicans clear outline for their opposition to the president's agenda. they are going full steam ahead saying they are opposed to what they say is liberal spending. mitch mcconnell was on the senate floor just moments ago. he devoted much of his speech to the president's speech from last night. let's take a listen. >> more than a year ago at the outset of the pandemic, a top house democrat said this crisis provided the left a tremendous opportunity to restructure things to fit our vision. well, last night, president biden said much the same, that his administration intends to
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turn crisis into opportunity. >> reporter: he was speaking about house speaker nancy pelosi last year trying to pass a 3 plus trillion dollar covid relief bill whittled down. mcconnell is going to lead the opposition to this additional $4 trillion of spending that president biden wants, especially not only because of the dollar amount, but because of how biden wants to pay for that, by raising taxes on the wealthiest americans and on corporations. if leader mcconnell has anything to do with it, he will ensure that nothing -- those big packages are not passed. we are talking -- we are listening to some of the more moderate republicans to see if they can come together on a smaller bipartisan deal to have some sort of bipartisan win on this traditional definition of infrastructure, hallie. >> we are getting our first reaction. hour speaker nancy pelosi is speaking not too far from where
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you are, holding a news conference with reporters. talking about what a triumph it was after she and vice president kamala harris. thank you much. as we heard, the president's trip to georgia really does highlight the importance of that state and trying to push his agenda forward. a lot of his early policy moves have been possible because of the two open seats democrats picked up. my next guest had a hand in helping democrats win that. she's the chairwoman of the democratic party and will serve in that role through 2022. good morning. thank you for being with us. >> thank you for covering this on your birthday. happy birthday. >> there's nowhere else i would rather be. thank you. i want to talk about last night. before i do, i want to talk about some of the developments in the last couple of hours as it relates to police reform. i know that house speaker pill
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. >> dale:pelosi is speaking now. schumer said his message was, we are listening. your reaction to that meeting and where you think the time line realistically is here. >> listening to the family means that we must not compromise on qualified immunity. we have to have tools to hold police accountable. the families of the victims in this country of police violence deserve leaders in this country who are not only willing to listen but willing to take action to change policies so that no one else has to go through what they went through. i have a 5-year-old black son. i fear for the day when people don't see his cute little dimples and see him as a child but one day see him as a threat. we have to get this right for generations to come in this country. >> you mentioned qualiied immunity, which could be a
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sticking point. is that a -- for lack of a better way to put it, is that the red line? could that make or break the passage of this bill? number two, the time line. the president made clear he wants this done by may 25th, the anniversary of george floyd's death. do you think really that could happen? >> hallie, i am four months into this gig as a member of the united states congress. the house did our part. democrats in the house passed a comprehensive bill, george floyd justice in policing act. it included qualified immunity. we are waiting to hear back from the senate on how they're going to move forward to be real leaders in this conversation on how we address police violence against the black community. we have to have tools to hold police accountable. qualified immunity is that tool, in my opinion. >> let me ask you, we know the president -- i think we have that shot of air force 1 on the tarmac.
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the president will head to your state. one of the issues that he talked about last night that is important, i know, to folks in george is for the senate to pass h.r. 1 and the john lewis voting rights act. you had what tim scott said last night as the response. watch. >> if you actually read this law, it's mainstream. it will be easier to vote early in georgia than in democrat-run new york. the left doesn't want you to know that. they want people virtue signaling. >> your response? >> i think what senator scott is missing is h.r. 1 gives us a standard of voting practices across the country. everyone, whether you live in new york, in south carolina or here in georgia, we should have the same access to the ballot. also, senator scott should understand that as a black man he wouldn't have the right to vote in this country where it were not for the federal
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government. it's our role to step in to make sure that it doesn't matter where you live, new york, south carolina or georgia, that you have the same equal access to the ballot. we need to pass h.r. 1 because i know that as a black woman here in georgia, my rights are on the line when i look at what happened in sb 202. the county i live in, the county that has atatlanta, we had opportunities that other counties didn't have. now fulton county is restricted in making sure we can provide mobile voting units, provide expanded saturday voting hours, we need to make sure that we pass h.r. 1. it shouldn't matter where you live, what your right and access to the ballot is. >> thank you so much for taking the time to join us this morning on our show. we appreciate your time. still ahead, our first look at craig's exclusive interview with president biden. what they talked about on his 100th day in office.
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this morning, another big milestone in the race to vaccinate as many americans as possible. more than 300 million shots have been distributed across the country. the cdc publishing a new study showing the shots reduce the risk of hospitalization among fully vaccinated seniors by 94%. you have a big step forward today for the city once the epicenter of the pandemic here in the u.s., new york city mayor bill de blasio announcing here on msnbc that the city will open fully on july 1st. that means no restrictions on restaurants, on places to shop, on any other businesses either. all of it happening as vice president kamala harris kicks off a new push to encourage more americans to get a shot. set to visit a mass vaccination
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site in baltimore. >> reporter: the vice president will mark her 100th day in office by visiting this mass vaccination site later today with dr. fauci as nbc is learning exclusively that the vice president is going to be leading the next critical phase of the public education campaign on covid out of the white house. we had an exclusive interview with the lead coordinator in the white house on covid. he told us, we are totally clear eyed about what a challenge this second face is going to be. take a listen. >> the second phase is about doubling down on our efforts to get the facts and science to the american people. to meet people where they are. to make access easy. even easier. i think increasing access off of this very strong base that we have created across the first phase will make it even easier for americans to get their first shot and then get fully
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vaccinated. >> reporter: hallie, harris picked baltimore because it's a perfect illustration of what's ahead. the population is a quarter black. 22% of those vaccinate ready black. they are trying to come up with innovative new strategies, including expanding mobile clinics, taking the vaccine to campuses. all of these new strategies. also, he said, it's deriving from the work that the vice president did in the senate. it's appreciated fact that she worked with black churches, the nba. this goes back to her work she did in the senate on equity. they will lean into that in this critical phase where hesitancy and access are really the challenges. >> heidi, thank you. overseas, the crisis in india is getting worse.
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crematoriums so overwhelmed, parking lots are converted. the images have been heart wrenching. alex crawford has a closer look on the ground. >> reporter: this is a cue for air. the hunt for oxygen is getting more urgent. the man on the right says they are not filling up the cylinders completely. lives are at stake and every extra breath of oxygen counts right now. a young man is pleading. my grandmother is on her death bed. the hospital sent me. please fill mine. he is lucky he pushed his way to the top of a long line and got away with it. all businesses with oxygen supplies have been told to give them over for medical use now. >> my grandmother. >> reporter: how badly?
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>> she will die in hospital. >> reporter: you are taking this to the hospital? >> yes. >> reporter: the cylinders have become the life line for many indians. but his grandmother needs them filled every two hours to keep her alive. the hospital is in another state. >> it's very far. no one is allowed to go inside. my grandma inside. no one else. >> reporter: how long to get to the hospital? >> one hour and 15 minutes. >> reporter: charities have had to step in to provide oxygen for sick people who can't get it elsewhere. it's all on a very small scale. for some, it's vital. she's been under this tree for two days. cared for by her son. obviously, struggling. the family wanted us to show this. they want their own government and others to see what's happening here.
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>> everywhere in all hospital. >> reporter: others are running low. there's a half an hour of oxygen left. >> it's almost exhausted. you can see over here. >> reporter: the load arrived in the nick of time. this surviving because many believe the government declared covid victory far too early and didn't plan ahead. >> that's alex crawford reporting from sky news with that heartwrenching story. details about something else overseas. the approach with iran. the biden administration is considering a big rollback in iranian sanctions, a push to get iran back in line with the 2015 nuclear deal. what do we know right now about this potential change? any timing on it? >> no timing. it's early days. what you are seeing is the
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administration trying to figure out exactly how to handle this. they were given a headache by the trump administration. president trump, when he withdrew from the nuclear deal with iran, introduced a whole slew of new sanctions that overlapped double or triple with the sanctions that were part of the deal. now to get back into the deal, iran is saying the u.s. has to lift all of the sanctions that trump imposed. the biden administration is openly saying that they are considering at least lifting some of those sanctions. it puts them in a politically awkward position. you are hearing rumbling from republicans in congress that the biden administration is possibly going to cave to iran. the dilemma is, if iran is to benefit from the agreement the way it was originally drafted, they are going to have to roll back some of those extra
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today is president biden's 100th day in office. it's mike pence's 100th day out of office. we will hear from him for the first time since the riot on capitol hill. pence is expected to talk about president biden's first months in office and contrast that with trump. he is expected to push for republicans to unify. i want to bring in the political investigation reporter for "the washington post," josh daucy. good morning to you. >> good morning. how are you doing today in. >> i'm good.
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i talked with dave wilson who said in the way that he does, the road to the white house and to haven is paved through south carolina. this is the start of the 2024 potential run for former vice president pence. he is walking this line between holding on to the trump base, which he hopes to think or would like to think he has some mantle to while not alienating more traditional conservatives. talk about how he does that, what your reporting is and the process from here. >> it's a standard trip to south carolina. he is expected to meet with several hundred pastors. he is meeting with donors. he is giving a lengthy speech. it will be a smaller event than in the past because of covid restrictions. for pence, it's the first time he is re-emerging since the former president called for --
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was critical of him on january 6th and some of his supporters suggested he be hanged. the former vice president has taken a low profile. he announced publically that he is going to be writing a book. he has written a couple of op-eds. we haven't heard much from him. he has political ambitions. he is going to a place where he thinks is a good fit for him. he thinks that south carolina is a place that he can best re-emerge from what happened in january. >> we talked about this, the former vice president's first public remarks since the riots on january 6th when they were chanting, hang mike pence. what is the likelihood that's something he addresses head on before any publication of his eventual book? >> i don't know it's likely. based on my reporting, it's more that he is going to talk about biden's agenda, what wasn'ts to do going forward, what he and
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president trump did in the last four years. pence is often scripted in his remarks. he is not someone who tries to make news. not muchspontaneity. >> on the gop overall, if you pull back, former president trump was out on one of the cable networks and asked about his expectations for the 2022 midterms. he took a swipe at mitch mcconnell saying he thinks leadership should be switched out. senator mcconnell should no longer be a leader. you have tensions between mccarthy and cheney about. how do you see this playing out? what are your sources telling you as far as this power struggle inside the republican party? >> you are going it see former president trump continue campaigning against those who
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voted against -- voted for his impeachment. mcconnell's advisors and allies are trying to downplay him, to not give him oxygen, to not respond hoping his influence fades over time and that he recedes. whether that happens or not, it's unclear. you see behind the scenes some of the establishment republicans are trying to buttress liz cheney in wyoming, knowing she could have a tough run. lindsey graham and others are trying to convince former president trump to be a constructive force, to help win the majority back in 2022. on many days he says he is going to do that. at the same time, there's a lot of animosity from his presidency towards a number of figures, mcconnell, cheney and others. that seems to be driving hip as well. there's no easy dynamic if you are reading the republican party in how you walk this tightrope.
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>> thank you for being on the show. just in the last couple of minutes, craig melvin wrapped up his exclusive interview with the president of the united states. we are seeing you joining us from the north lawn. that's why you are not anchoring this hour. let's get to it. talk about the news out of this. take us through the conversation. >> appreciate you holding it down. it was a wide ranging, roughly 30-minute conversation. the bulk of which was spent talking about president biden's $6 trillion spending plan. how he plans to pay for it. republican opposition to it. we also spent some time talking about the president's view of the role of government, if you will. the president in that speech last night, a lot of folks heard the president's speech and basically heard something we hadn't really heard in generations, the era of big government is back. president biden made the case to me again this morning that
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government is capable of doing big things and that we should start expecting more from government. we also talked about the republican response to his address last night. of course, that coming from the junior senator from south carolina, tim scott, who at one point during the response said america is not racist. i asked the president about that. we also talked about immigration, of course. you could make the argument that his first 100 days have been defined by the response to the pandemic and the response or lack thereof according to some to the situation at the southern border. we talked about that. we talked about whether he considers what's happening there a crisis. i asked him about those hundreds of migrant children that he promised to reunite with their families. i asked him about that pledge. he also spent time talking about rudy giuliani. it was reported yesterday evening that president trump's one-time lawyer, his office, his
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home had been raided by federal investigators. here is president biden's response to that question. federal investigators searched the hope and the office of rudy giuliani as part of an investigation into his time as president trump's attorney, his dealings with ukraine. were you aware of that before it happened? >> i give you my word, i was not. i made a pledge i would not interfere in any way, order or try to stop any investigation the justice department had. i learned about that last night when the rest of the world learned about it, my word. i had no idea this was underway. >> have you been briefed on any other investigations -- >> no. i'm not asking to be briefed. i'm not asking to be briefed. that's the justice department's independent judgement. this last administration politicized the justice department so badly, so many of them quit, so many left because that's not the role -- that's
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not the role of a president to say who should be prosecuted, when they should be prosecuted, who should be not prosecuted. that's not the role of the president. the justice department is the people's lawyer, not the president's lawyer. >> president biden insisting that he was not aware of the raid on rudy giuliani's office or his home yesterday. saying he had not been briefed on any other investigations involving former president trump or any of his allies. hallie, as you know, after our conversation, president biden and dr. biden headed to joint base andrews. they are going to georgia for that rally tonight. before that, they are going to spend time with president carter, 96 years old there in georgia. he has been sick for some time. a live look at joint base andrews. i continue to be amazed at the speed by which the president of the united states can get from the white house to joint base andrews. it had to take less than ten minutes. >> it's like, 11.
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a fair amount of time on that south lawn waiting for that chopper to arrive. it's about 10 1/2 minutes. >> we talked about his old friend president carter. as you know, president biden, the first senator to endorse him in 1976 when he was 33 years old. he spent time talking about his dear friend. by the way, i think this will probably be what most folks care about, major the dog, an update on major and also some other breaking news regarding perhaps an additional pet being adopted by the first family. >> are you going to share that with us now, after that tease? >> no. i think that's probably all i can give you. >> all right. can i ask you a follow-up question? i don't know if you can answer this. as we have talked today -- you referenced it, this idea that president biden, white house officials want to go big. the era of big government. that was clearly laid out in the speech. did he address the concerns that
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have been coming up, even from some in his party, that perhaps he runs the risk of trying to go too big and tipping the balance there? >> he did address it. he essentially dismissed those concerns. as you noted, he is making a political calculation. it's related to the pandemic in part. he thinks he has been emboldened to a certain extent because of the pandemic and the government's response to it. he thinks there's an appetite in the country for more government, for big are government, for bolder government. he thinks there's an appetite for it. he also spent a fair amount of time talking about the trump era tax cuts, as he called them, and pointing out that a number of folks who are crying foul now about government spending were not crying foul a few years ago. we look at the president here and dr. jill biden joined us for a portion of the interview as
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well. revealed that yesterday was especially long for her because in addition to having to attend the joint address to congress. she taught. she's a community college professor. she taught a course yesterday. she had to grade papers. then she had to go and spend time last night as well. we spent time talking about her responsibilities. i also asked her -- i read years ago that the presidency doesn't really change a person. it merely reveals who they have always been. she addressed that. she talked about what the first 100 days had revealed to her about her husband as we watch the first couple there on the tarmac at joint base andrews. >> that's right. it looks like president biden talking with folks there, getting ready to head to georgia where he will be selling everything that he talked with you about, craig. fascinating interview. we are excited to see more of
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it. craig is going to make his way -- you are going back to new york tonight? >> back tonight. >> back to new york tonight. the whole thing -- or a lot of it tomorrow on "today." more tonight on "nbc nightly news." great, great reporting. we are looking forward to the interview where you covering presidency policies and priorities to presidential pets, apparently. thank you, sir. >> thank you. we will talk more about that here on msnbc and we will dig into one of the more memorable lines from president biden's speech. his promise to transgender americans that he will have their back. the head of the human rights campaign joins us next. aign joit . okay, imagine this... your mover, rob, he's on the scene and needs a plan with a mobile hotspot. we cut to downtown, your sales rep lisa has to send some files, asap! so basically i can pick the right plan for each employee...
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and shooting arbery as he jogged. it happened february of last year. they claim they thought he was a burglar. pete williams is joining me with more on this. take us through the new charges. >> we don't know anything about the timing. that's the easiest thing to answer. the question first is, who is going to go first in the trials? they face state murder charges. typically, the way it's worked -- not always, but generally worked in the past is that the federal government, if it files charges like this, while the trial is still pending, stands in the background and waits to see how the local prosecution goes. i don't think that they have worked out who will go first. the state obviously filed its charges first. we will see which goes first. secondly, you can call these hate crime charges as a technical matter, but they are not filed under the hate crimes law. they are filed under a federal
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civil rights law. the government's prosecution says that arbery was enjoying a fairly protected right, the use of a public street, when he was attacked because of his race. that's the government's theory of the case here. >> pete williams, thank you. as we mark the 100th day of joe biden's presidency, we visit one city that proved key to the president's success in november, milwaukee, wisconsin. voters there helped flip that state blue and push president biden over the finish line by a little more than 20,000 votes. we caught up with black voters who were key to biden's win in the straight. it's great to see you. you talked to four voters. interestingly, none gave the president above a b grade for his first 100 days. why not? what's going on? >> reporter: good morning. i spoke to four voters. we got three bs, b mine you b
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-- b minus and c. it fits with the black national rating. they there are many areas where they want specific action, not just talk, not just feel good stuff but something at black voters, similar to the anti-asian covid bill. they want direct action. let's listen. >> i want a bill that speaks to racism and discrimination and white supremacy and policing. i want that to trickle down. we have a broken system. giving word or voice that is heartfelt isn't enough when we are dying and being killed. >> reporter: that's the frustration. so many voters say the system is broken. there's violence on the black community, especially from the state. while it's nice to get out of the past four years and move into a friendlier administration, the talk isn't going to be enough,folks here i.
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they want more than just talk. they want action. >> great stuff. thank you very much for bringing it to us live on msnbc. an historic moment last night in president biden address to congress. he delivered a message to transgender kids telling them he will have their back. the president of human rights campaign is here to talk about it next. yeah, what y'all want? will you turn to cold washing with tide? tide cleans better in cold than the bargain brand in hot. so, mr. t can wash his hanes tees in cold. that's true mr. t. i pity the fool who don't turn to cold. ahh. ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪
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>> let's start with what we heard from president biden and what you think that public declaration of support meant to americans across the country. >> president biden's statement to transgender young people was so powerful. it speaks volumes right now as transgender young people are being attacked by legislators. last night the florida house and senate snuck an anti-transgender sports bill into the bill and put it on the governor's desk within an hour. five governors have done so this session. hearing that transgender people matter, that he had their backs is so important right now.
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i think it resonated with so many lgbtq people across the country. >> over the last several months i know hrc has been tracking what you say is a record number of anti-tran gender bills making their way through legislatures. president donald trump seized on it in february. the issue of trans athletes in sports. >> i think what we are facing is a manufactured culture war. we have anti-equality extremists look for the next frontier to attack lgbtq people. they lost on the marriage fight
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and on bathroom bills. now they are attacking transgender young people. we have bills sitting on the desk of four governors, arkansas, tennessee, montana and florida with more bills on the way. we have more than 250 anti-lgbtq bills introduced in session, which is more than any other year in history. but the american public supports equality. 2/3 oppose these anti-transgender bills, so we know they will lose the fight. they are attacking the most vulnerable in our community in order to ganl points. but this will not translate into what they want. yes, they may pass a bill here or there, but we will win the battle. >> what is the role of big
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corporations. money talks, as you know. we saw what happened in north carolina with the bathroom bills. you have 400 u.s. companies that have signed on to your campaign for the equality act, if you will it. what is their role in this and how do you see that as a potential tipping point. >> companies influence public policy in so many different ways. they are able to make the business case why business affects businesses. i issued a letter in "the new york times" a couple weeks ago asking all company leaders to step into the fight, asking them to denounce bills that discriminate against specifically nonbinary and transgender people. we are asking them to refuse to support sporting events where
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athletes are banned or athletes taking the knee are penalized. they did that a few years ago in north carolina. they were looking to pass an anti-transgender bill. businesses and celebrities were involved and they were able to turn the tide. the bottom line is this. businesses are the economic engines to our economy. when they speak up about the impact of discriminatory bills are having on their employees, on their shareholders beings on their customers, legislators listen. that's why we are actively engaging with businesses across the country to make sure they engage with us on this effort. >> thank you for being with us. and a programming note, i talked with two people in alabama. you see them here.
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good day. this is andrea mitchell reports in washington. president biden on his 100th day in office tries to look at the shift in government. he will be touching down in georgia this hour, but first to visit with former president jimmy carter and rosalynn carter. before he left the president sat down with craig melvin, anchor of craig melvin reports at 11:00 here on msnbc. >> andrea, president biden insisted last night and this morning to me, that he believes that

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