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all forces are being withdrawn. what has changed? leon pennetta will be here. ♪♪ welcome to friday. it's "meet the press daily." i'm chuck todd. as president biden tries to get a $4 trillion multi-facetted spenting -- spending plan through congress, the response has been muted. it raises a question. what does this republican party stand for anymore? the answer to that question may not be found in washington. instead, look what's going on in the statehouses. republicans are abuzz with cultural warfare, trump-style grievances and really passing laws to deal with mythological

problems. they don't exist. they were created in prime time on propaganda tv. after a 2020 election where the florida republicans bragged how smoothly it went. in arizona, republicans are looking to undermine the results of an election they lost nearly six months by holding this bizarre fly by night audit cheered on by former president trump, echoing the lie, using a company called cyber ninja. that's all you need to know. adding to that, seemingly motivated by the focus on black lives matter and antifa, states are passing laws that don't just limit the rights of protesters, in some cases, they are granting immunity to drivers whose vehicles injure them on public streets. in more than 30 states, republican lawmakers are looking at banning transgender girls from playing on girls sports

teams. some states have not had this come up in a single school in the state, but by god, they need to pass a law. one of the laws passed in west virginia, even though the republican governor made comments on msnbc today suggesting the law was, indeed, a remedy in search of an actual problem. >> you give me one example of a transgender child trying to get an unfair advantage, one, in your state. you signed a bill about it. >> i can't really tell you one. >> taken together, this republican party appears to be knitted together more by cultural warfare and trump-style propaganda. the party changed and would rather talk about the border than the budget, cancellations than congressional budget office scores. what happened to that gop? the short answer, of course, is

donald trump. joining me now to talk about this shift if priorities where the gop is right now, my colleague and nbc news political editor carrie dan. i do think one of the undercovered stories in american politics is sort of the republican party -- we talk about whose party is it? is it donald trump's party? here is what it's not. it's not the washington republicans. they couldn't be farther removed, it appears, from where the rank and file is. >> that's right, chuck. over the past few weeks, myself and a lot of my colleagues have been watching these debates playing out around the country. one of the sort of prevailing themes you hear from democrats in the state legislatures that are controlled by republicans is exactly what you were saying. what exactly is the problem that we are trying to solve here with this legislation? two places that that has been the case is with the issue of trans kids in sports and the issue of voting legislation.

i think florida is just so demonstrative about this. it's a state that donald trump won. it's a state, forget what you think you know, it was a smoothly run election that ron desantis said it was smooth and praised officials. and yet this voting legislation passed. a solution in search of a problem. we are seeing this throughout the state legislatures. republicans in d.c. sometimes following suit as well, weighing in on things like, for example, critical race theory, the 1619 project, trans kids as well. we see some of the washington folks picking up these issues that are raging in republican legislatures around the country, despite the fact that nobody can really point at exactly what the problem is that that legislation is trying to solve. >> meanwhile, one of the

points -- there really doesn't seem to be an effort to create a coherent countermessage to president biden's spending proposals. >> i think rich is correct that donald trump happened to the party. it's not exactly like the trump administration was a paragon of fiscal responsibility and was talking about deficits and reducing the price tag on things. i think there's a little bit of a reversal there. our latest nbc poll showed that a lot of these things that the biden administration is proposing, they are things that are popular. biden is above water on the economy. he gets great ratings even from a third of republicans on his handling of coronavirus and the pandemic. he gets credit from voters for bringing the country together. some of these things are difficult, i think, for republicans to find a way to attack. universal day care, infrastructure. these are things that poll very well. biden is only picking the fight that he thinks he can win in a lot of these cases. you are right that republicans

really haven't said a lot other than being vaguely concerned about how much it will cost and telling voters, watch and see your taxes go up. they are making a bet the cultural issues are stickier, not just for their base but for some moderate democrats and republicans who might be uncomfortable with some of the culture war issues and may remember those more vividly in 2022 and 2024 than they will remember getting a check from the government for covid relief. >> i understand the short-term argument. you have outlined what the short-term politics is. if you can't beat 'em, then ignore them. pivot and try to go to something else. on that score, i understand the political strategy. long-term, what would you say are the core principals of this republican party right now? >> i think you saw tim scott in his response to president biden's speech earlier this week

sort of try to lay out this idea of the republican party wants just no government in your life. these decisions should be left up to people. i think there's a counter argument. we heard this with the issue of trans kids from governor hitc -- hutchinson saying, should state government be involved? should state government really be making decisions for families and their kids and doctors? i think that's a fundamental tension in the republican party. they are trying to make this argument that their party stands for individual freedoms and state legislatures sort of being the laboratories of democracy. they are places where there are bills that are passing that may either be seen by voters as an intrusion or be seen as things that are more culture war and less solving problems in their lives. >> it reminds me of the terry

shivo story. my next guest will remember that story. there's a point, why is government getting involved in all of these personal issues and decisions? you wonder if they are pushing the envelope on the libertarian strain that is in this party a little bit. carrie dann, it's always a pleasure for people to hear our conversations in public. thank you. let me bring in texas republican congressman kevin brady, the ranking member on the house ways and means committee. one of the architects of the tax reform legislation. he announced that this is going to be his last term in congress. congressman brady, it's good to see you. >> thank you, chuck. good to see you. >> let me start with this bigger question here, because it does feel as if washington republicans, many people like yourself and maybe senator tim scott and senator mcconnell

still want to have the republican party be the party of fiscal discipline, but it doesn't look like that's a message that's taking hold inside the party. do you think the party has lost its interest, the rank and file moved in another direction, lost their interest in the deficit -- >> great question. absolutely not. i think this rising deficit keeps most republicans awake. especially right now, because clearly, we are seeing just an unprecedented spending spree on a lot of programs that americans don't necessarily want or need. it's going to land on our children. i think the biggest issue right now is what we can do for the debt is to grow this economy. the president has been fortunate. he inherited the strong recovery and life saving vaccines. i think right now i worry he is sabotaging the jobs recovery, because of the crippling tax hikes. it will land on working families. will drive jobs overseas.

that's the last thing we need right now. >> you talk about the fiscal issues. your party, when it is in charge, has not once lowered the debt. not once lowered the deficit. it's not happened. you know this. it's not happened. why? >> that's a bit misleading. my first several years in congress, we balanced the budget as a republican congress. the debt went up, of course. >> and a democratic president. >> the democrat president didn't do it when he had a democratic congress. by the way, in the two years after the tax cuts and jobs act, we had the two highest record levels of income and revenue into the united states government. we know if you grow the economy, you grow revenue. >> i guess i go back to why is it that you -- it's not misleading. republicans had full control of

the government multiple times in the 21st century. the debt has skyrocketed both times. why? >> as have democrat leaders as well. you know, we came together in four or five bipartisan bills to tackle this pandemic, crush this virus, respond to what was going on in our hospitals and health care and save our small businesses. i supported those bipartisan measures because that's what we needed to get -- crush this virus and get out of this economic crisis. now though, we have nearly recovered all of the economy. the big challenge right now is jobs. that's where i think president biden's frankly job killing tax increases are a big problem. last night at the joint address, the night before, i counted 6.5

million jobs lost because of policies he talked about. this is not the time for these policies. >> i think that you can find plenty of folks that would say there's just -- there isn't a lot of evidence in either direction here that that's going to somehow kill jobs. there's a lot of people that believe this is going to create -- >> i have to say -- >> create jobs on that. >> i'm not alone in this. >> i know you are not alone. >> even if you count the full economic impact of the infrastructure, america is a net loser because of the way the taxes are imposed. >> i think the idea of some of these taxes all being enacted is something that i don't think is going to happen, because it does look like there's a lot more interest in deficit financing of infrastructure. i'm curious, i had a colleague of yours on yesterday, a republican colleague from pennsylvania, congressman fitzpatrick, who seemed to be in

favor of many deficit financing for infrastructure. do you think that's a defensible posture? >> you know, i don't know. here is what i do know. infrastructure roads, schools, waterways, railroads, bipartisan support for that. my belief is first look to user fees. other taxpayers don't have to shoulder that burden. secondly, look at the tax code. right now, i think we can make changes to the way we do private activity bonds. i think we can make changes that draw in private capital rather than just tax dollars to this. i would look at the existing structure and how we make that work better for modern infrastructure before i went the tax increase route. >> i understand that. but with deficit financing, you would rather go to the private sector before you did deficit

financing? >> absolutely. i would look for incentives to drive private capital into infrastructure. america lags the rest of the world. we are one of the few that rely on taxpayers for all of this infrastructure or at least most of it. i think we ought to rethink how we do this. bring that capital in. i think that's the way we get investment without the tax increases, because at the end of the day, we don't want to lose jobs doing infrastructure. we want to gain them. >> i want to ask you about your conference here. there's a lot of chatter that liz cheney's days are numbered in leadership. are they? should they be? >> you know, i don't know that that's the case. what i know is that our republican conference -- there was unanimous support for fighting this socialist agenda, the impact on families,

enlarging the government to this degree. i know the press may have been picking up on some things. frankly, our republicans are united. by the way, we know if we do our job and work together, we will be in the majority in about a year and eight months. >> you avoided the direct question. do you think liz cheney should be in her leadership position, deserves to be and do you think she will stay there for the rest of the term? >> again right now, our conference voted to keep the whole leadership structure in place. leader mccarthy, whip scalise, our conference chair liz cheney and the others. that's how it stands today. i don't know that that changes. what i do know is that we're absolutely unified in fighting for working families and to stop this socialist agenda. that's what really matters. >> congressman, i will go one

more time, you seem to be hesitant to give -- if this were a press conference with a general manager of a football team, you are like, you are not giving a vote of confidence there. do you have a vote of confidence for liz cheney as your conference chair? >> for the third time i will remind you that where we are as a conference is that we are absolutely unified in stopping the soerl istsocialist agenda a what we need to earn back the trust of the american people. that's where we are at. >> congressman kevin brady, republican from texas, who is retiring. i appreciate you coming on and sharing your perspective. thank you, sir. >> thank you, sir. appreciate it. coming up, i will talk to the white house's top economist about the administration's big agenda and how we're going to pay for it. later, rudy giuliani is denying the fbi warned him that

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welcome back. with the economy recovering from the coronavirus pandemic, president biden is proposing more spending from congress on infrastructure, social programs and more. he made the case on why, that now is the time to spend big in an exclusive interview with my colleague craig melvin. take a listen. >> why tax and spend so much when the economy is still recovering as a result of the pandemic? >> that's the reason why it's recovering, because we're investing. look how rapidly it's recovered since we passed the last piece of legislation. that legislation was $1.9 trillion. if we don't invest in this

country, we're going to actually start to -- we're going to fall behind even further. >> joining me now is cecelia rause. let me start with how we're going to pay for this. i say it this way, because it looks like as much as you guys put out a proposal to pay for everything, congress, including many democrats, seem to be not ready to stomach that but are open to more deficit financing. how much more can a deficit financing of government programs can our economy handle? >> well, thank you for having me today. you know, the president has laid out a bold vision for how to really invest in our economy going forward.

the vision he has put forward is, we need to be making these investments in innovation, human capital so we improve the economy. he believes this is government investments. and we should be funding our government. we have put forward a plan where that tax burden is more evenly shared. we are putting forward a way to raise revenue to help fund these investments. how much deficit financing can the economy take? we do believe that the economy -- that our federal government can tolerate a bit more deficit financing. interest rates are very low. we don't really foresee the debt to be a burden at least over the next decade. we know that won't last forever. we have to be vigilant for signs that it's becoming unsustainable. i think it's important that we develop strong revenue bases to be funding the important investments the federal government should be making.

>> is it fair to say that on your biggest ask on these programs that you don't want the stumbling block to be how you are going to pay for it? >> you know, these are -- these go hand in glove. we need to make these investments. there's no question about that. can the federal government tolerate some more debt financing? possibly. most importantly, it is important that we replenish the revenue that is coming in to government. it's important that our corporations are paying their fair share. that our wealthiest americans who have benefitted from our economy are also paying their fair share. a well-funded government is really important so that we are able to respond to, i don't know, a once in a generation pandemic. right? that's when government needs resources to step in when the private sector cannot. importantly here, what the president is proposing is we

have a well-funded government to make investments so that the united states can remain the powerhouse that it is and should be. >> this economy appears poised to have a big run here in the next -- anywhere from 12 to 18 months. one of the bigger challenges for a lot of small businessowners is going to be labor. right? there's a growing concern of a labor shortage, particularly with hourly workers. what is your sense of how to improve this situation? is it that we need more immigrants? is it that we need to see wages be pushed up on some of these jobs? what is it? how concerned are you about the labor issue? >> look, we got four pieces of data this week that suggests that the u.s. economy is steadily improving. and that is really wonderful news. we also know that we're still in

the midst of a pandemic. we are making wonderful strides. it's improving because of the strength of the vaccine rollout and the american rescue plan which put money in the pockets of families and businesses so we could get to the other side. that said, we know that we are coming out of a pandemic-induced recession. there will be bumps along the way. in the short-term, there may be some places where employers have to struggle to find workers. i'm looking to see whether there are increases in wages there. i do expect that with the vaccine rollout, it was more people feel more confident about taking on jobs that require face-to-face interaction, they will feel more confident about taking on those jobs. importantly, a lot of parents don't have the childcare that they need in order to be able to go back to work. schools are starting to come back. if your child is in school one week and at home another week, you can't really take on a job,

because you can't count on the school being open. i think until we really get through this pandemic, many people won't be able to take the kinds of full-time jobs. that said, we have an employment report coming out next week. i'm expecting that it will show some fairly strong employment growth. >> there are some who say that one of the reasons for this labor shortage is because the benefits -- the covid benefits have been too generous or certainly -- i guess the question is, is that because those jobs don't pay enough or the benefits have been too generous? i think you can argue it on either side. i'm curious where you land on this. >> we have been looking and yet we have not found evidence that the covid -- the unemployment insurance benefits are holding people back from taking jobs. in fact, you can't find a relationship between what the replacement rate is, which is the amount that the unemployment benefit is covering relative to

what people were earning or could be earning, any relationship between that percentage and people being willing to take jobs. i think fundamentally, we are still in a pandemic. we still don't -- even employers that are searching, are not back full strength. until we get to the other side of this pandemic, i don't expect that we will see perfect match between labor supply and labor demand. that said, we are watching. we are rather vigilant. the best way to get everybody back to work and for employers to have the workers they need is to continue the robust vaccine rollout and for people to get the shots in the arms. >> thanks for coming on and sharing your perspective with us. i appreciate it. >> it was a pleasure. thank you. coming up, my interview with one of the architects of the raid that killed osama bin laden. it was ten years ago tomorrow. plus, did rudy giuliani go to ukraine?

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giuliani's dealings in ukraine is ramping up, nbc news confirmed the fbi warned him he was the target of a russian influence operation aimed at helping donald trump win the election. the news of the defensive briefing was reported by "the washington post." after that briefing, he still went to ukraine and met with someone linked to russian intelligence. he later claimed not to know he was dealing with a russian asset. his lawyer denied the fbi briefing occurred. senator ron johnson confirmed he did get a similar briefing from the fbi in 2020 but told "the washington post" it was useless and unnecessary. i can tell you that quite a few united states senators, perhaps the entire senate at some point, was given a version of this defensive briefing, specifically warning that the russians were trying to get american elected officials to utter this ukraine propaganda. joining me now is nbc news national security and intelligence correspondent ken

delaney. we understood the briefings had been -- that we know that i think the president himself -- former president had been told, hey, your lawyer, watch out. to watch the weird denials today from giuliani and senator johnson, it feels a lot like they're trying to do a little cya. >> it sure does. it's also a consequence of a segment of the republican party that dismisses what the intelligence community tells them. in the case of ron johnson. in the case of giuliani, it's a strange situation. what i'm told is that when the fbi approached him, he is the former u.s. attorney, former mayor of new york. they don't have to use kid gloves and code words. they told him what they saw was going on, which was a russian influence operation designed to hurt joe biden and help donald

trump and that he was dealing with people involved in this and he was receiving propaganda. we don't know what he said back to them. we know that in december 2019, shortly after this briefing, he went to kiev and he met with a ukrainian parliamentarian who later was publically described as a russian intelligence agent by the treasury department. that came a year later. apparently, the defensive briefings didn't work. even the trump administration, the treasury department, felt compelled to go public and say, yes, here are people who are working for russian intelligence to discredit joe biden, we are naming and shaming them. giuliani had been meeting with that person and others. >> now it appears as if -- how many folks in the trump administration perhaps were given these briefings and still sort of -- i'm sorry. i look at this now and -- you

realize, we know the entire trump operation knew full well that everything coming out of ukraine was nothing but a russian intelligence plot, and they all went with it. they all used it. the president, all of his operatives, i mean -- to consider what we now know of this briefing, it also means quite a few trump officials and trump campaign people knowingly passed on russian propaganda. >> yes it does, chuck. putting ourselves in their shoes, trying to understand the world as they see it, you can perhaps argue that maybe they said, just because it's the russian intelligence agencies are saying doesn't mean all of it is false. some of them may have legitimately believed that there was a corruption issue, that hunter biden was on this board and that needed to be investigated. that's fine. the people who were given the briefings by the fbi, the

counterintelligence division, they are career. these are not deep state political appointees like andrew mccabe or jim comey. why they didn't pay more close attention to this, because i think your diagnosis is right. they participated in russian propaganda. >> that's the part of this -- this is not just a rudy giuliani problem. this is a virus that bit a lot of people who probably think they are not involved. but they have been recruited unknowingly. ken, thank you. coming up, former defense secretary and cia director leon pennetta joins me. the bowls are back. applebee's irresist-a-bowls all just $8.99.

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i got a quick email from one of the press officials here at the white house that just said

this is going to be big, can't quite tell you what it is, but, frankly, used three initials, bfd, get down here and get down here quickly. then, of course, word came out the president wanted to address the nation. we are two months away of when we are to see the first troops with draw, begin to withdraw from the war in afghanistan. symbolically, the war in afghanistan was about getting bin laden. we got bin laden. >> welcome back, it's one of those, where were you when moments, the night president obama announced the killing of osama bin laden, the world's most wanted man at the time. i was reporting from the white house briefing room as large crowds of people gathered outside the white house on that sunday evening as they heard the news firsthand. my guest was the one overseeing the secret operation from cia headquarters. ten years ago this weekend. the successful mission to bring the al qaeda leader to justice

came ten years after 9/11. ten years after that, president biden is in the process of withdrawing u.s. troops from afghanistan. i'm joined by leon pennetta who was the cia director at the time. he served as defense secretary in the obama administration. i think he had been nominated to be the next defense secretary, if i'm not mistaken, at the time. it's good to see you. i think that's the part where i want to begin, which is -- thanks to my producers for pulling up my 10-year-old clip there where we had connected getting bin laden with ending the war in afghanistan. why did it take us an extra ten years to get out of afghanistan? >> well, you know, it's a proud moment to think that it was ten years since we did the bin laden raid. it was a real team effort and something i was proud to be part

of. look, i think that in that mission to kill bin laden, i think it's fair to say that we really undermined the leadership of al qaeda, because he was really in many ways the spiritual leader of al qaeda. it was the beginning of the end of al qaeda and their strength. i think it probably should have marked a very distinct change in how we approached the issue of afghanistan and how we would deal with trying to make sure that it didn't become a safe haven for terrorism. unfortunately, i think the approach to it was to just kind of continue to muddle along and not really come up with the kind of comprehensive strategy we

needed in order to try to make sure that afghanistan could both govern and secure itself. that didn't happen. that's why we are at the point we are today. >> it's not lost on a lot of people that our biggest successes over the last 20 years militarily during this -- as we were rooting out al qaeda and other terrorist operations, our greatest successes were special forces, and where we didn't have success is where we had amassed a lot of troops. i wonder if in a 21st -- is our defense posture -- are we prioritized the right way? we want to prepare for a conventional war that looks like we will never be fighting again. >> well, it is important in the 21st century to have a defense

force that really can adapt and be agile to the changes that are taking place. i mean, we really do have to be on the front edge of technology with everything that's happening on artificial intelligence, everything happening in space, with everything that's happening with regards to cyberattacks. this is an area, i think, we really do need to beef up our technology. secondly, i think we have to be very flexible in our ability to use force, to be agile, to be able to quickly deploy, to be able to deal with hybrid warfare, which is the kind of approach that the russians are using with proxy forces in cyber. they are trying to undermine stability. i'm not quite sure we are as prepared as we had you be to deal with the challenge of hybrid war. at the same time, of course, we need to be conventionally ready if we ever have to confront

china over taiwan or anyplace else. bottom line here is that we have to be adaptable. we have to be flexible. and we have to be prepared to deal with a number of very different challenges we are facing in the 21st century. >> you know, it's interesting you brought up what the russians are doing. i want to ask you about something. i have no doubt you are not read in on this. it was released. i know you know the general issue. that is these weird sonic attacks on our diplomats that have taken place in multiple embassies. here is what the two -- the chair and vice-chair of the intelligence committee just put out this statement. you and i know these words are chosen carefully.

this is the first time anybody in the intelligence community, mr. pennetta, said this is a weapon that did this. i have to tell you, i'm curious, what is your knowledge about technology like that? >> well, you are right, i'm not read into the latest in terms of the intelligence on this. from the beginning when this was beginning to happen, it was pretty clear that there was technology being used that could jury people just by virtual of being able to send sound waves

and various other approaches into an embassy. what that weapon is, how it works -- obviously, that's what the intelligence committee and our intelligence officials are trying to pin down. we are now living at a time when that kind of technology is very real. and it can threaten people not by bullets, not by armed forces or boots on the ground. it can threaten people simply by using the capabilities to send a wave into an embassy and create mental damage. i think that's the kind of world we are living in, chuck. as i said, i'm not quite sure we're prepared to deal with those kinds of challenges at

this point. >> i'm curious, do you think we will get to a point where there will be some geneva conventions that deal with things like the rules of engagement on cyber and sonic weapons like this? this seems to be -- we used to have -- let's not put civilians in warfare. some diplomats in this case are the civilians. >> i have been saying for a long time that cyber is the battle feed of the future. these kinds of new technologies, sonic weapons and other areas like that, are what nations are now putting into their defense approach. we are doing the same thing. i really do think that it's important for countries like china and russia and others to be able to sit down and develop standards with regards to how

we're going to use cyber, how we're going to use sonic. i think we need to do the same thing with regards to space and the kind of defense systems that are being set up in space. we need to address all of these issues, because right now, as i said, we said, we're facing a myriad of threats from a number of different directions, and i'm not sure we're quite prepared to deal with that kind of challenge. >> it feels like the wild west in the late 19th century, anyway. leon panetta, i've got to imagine ten years ago among your proudest moments in public service, i hope you get to have a little toast with friends and colleagues over the weekend. thanks for coming on. >> we will do that. we're going to have a small reunion this afternoon of all the players and enjoy the memories of having done something that we thought was very important for our country and for those who died on 9/11. >> i hope you will screen-shot

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welcome back. in just a few minutes, president biden will be in philadelphia to mark the 50th anniversary of amtrak. it's all part of pennsylvania. it's all about pennsylvania, it helped them narrowly win the state in 2020. we've been watching the county basically on the other side of the state because it's that area that democrats have been struggling with. dasha burns is talking to beaver county voters about how they're feeling about the first 100 days of the biden administration. when i think about his speech to congress, dasha, and he talked about, why can't these be built in pittsburgh and not beijing, i'm thinking, he's trying to talk to those beaver county voters who live in and around pittsburgh. did they listen to what he had to say and did they like it? >> reporter: they listened, chuck. they did not particularly like it. i've been asking voters to give president biden a bit of a report card for his first 100 days, and here in beaver county, he is averaging a grade of about

a c-minus, d-plus. people here not thrilled with the president that they did not cast their ballot for, which isn't surprising. but, chuck, as i've been talking to voters here for about a year now, the number one issue that comes up consistently as a priority is the economy. this is an area that has seen a lot of struggle, and the number one reason people tell me they voted for a businessman is because of the economy, and people say the economy is also the reason they're concerned about this administration. this is a region with a lot of both big c and small c conservatives, and the question on their mind is, how is this white house going to pay for all these big, expensive proposals? it's also, chuck, hard to talk about beaver without talking about the shell ethane plant. you can see it from here. it's been a huge boon to this economy. it's hard to find somebody in some way, shape or form not connected to the gas industry, so the president's focus on

energy also causing a lot of apprehension here, chuck. >> it has, and it just shows what we thought which is i think we know people have stayed in their corners a bit. but we will see. we'll keep checking in on beaver as the midterms approach as well. dasha burns on the road for us. dasha, i always appreciate your hard work there. thank you all for being with us this hour. we'll be back on monday with more "meet the press daily." if it's monday it's on your local tv station, rob portman and bernie sanders. msnbc continues with katy tur right after this break. subway®. eat fresh.

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good afternoon, i'm katy tur. it's 11:00 a.m. out west and 2:00 p.m. in the east. we're learning more today about that federal investigation into rudy giuliani that resulted in raids at the home and the office of yet another personal attorney for former president trump.