got the racist former president elected in the first place. so much so that his personal attorney, rudy giuliani, even adorned a "make mexico great again" also hat on the 2016 campaign trail. now another wardrobe change may be in store for the disgraced former mayor. this week federal officials conducted a raid of golf links's personal apartment, confiscating several devices surrounding his shaky dealings with ukraine. nbc news has learned that the raid focused on one key avenue in the investigation, giuliani's successful efforts to have america's former ambassador to ukraine removed bought he thought she was obstructing his efforts to dig up dirt on the bidens and whether that work violated the foreign agent's registration act. that law should sound familiar because it is the same one which

also got disgraced and pardoned trump national security advisor michael flynn in trouble. much like the disgraced former general, the disgraced former mayor received a warn he might be the target of a foreign influence operation. in 2019 giuliani was warned by the fbi he was being targeted by a russian intelligence influence operation as part of moscow's effort to discredit joe biden and help reelect trump. that did not appear to move mr. giuliani. republican senator ron johnson publicly admitted he received a similar briefing with a similar warning about being targeted by a russian influence operation but said it lacked specific evidence so he considered it useless. but giuliani's lawyer says that no such briefing existed for him and the raid on his office was legal thuggerie and he has spoken to alan dershowitz about what he claims are constitutional issues.

reporters caught giuliani leaving his apartment in new york city in the last hour. he waxed poetic about alexander hamilton and the places he went to in new york city several hundred years ago. it was as strange as it sounds but it is rudy giuliani. he did say he is going to make an announcement later today in new jersey. we are going to keep an eye out for that and bring it it to you when it happens. that's where alexander hamilton was shot. in another strange but deranged cable news interview he spouted about hunter biden while calling the raid completely illegal and unnecessary because he covered to, quote, talk it over with him. the insurrection former president tried to talk the situation over with fox news this week and so far defending his attorney saying it is very, very unfair because rudy loves this country so much. it is so terrible when you see things going on in our country with the corruption and the problems, and then they go after

rudy giuliani. an ironic statement if there ever was one. joining me is michael cohen, former personal attorney to donald trump. he's the author of the book "disloyal," a memoire, the true story of the former personal attorney to donald j. trump. he is host of the "mea culpa" podcast. trump is defending to defend rudy giuliani. how do you think it pans out? >> i don't see donald doing much for rudy. he put on a quick statement how unfair it is, rudy is a great patriot, et cetera. i don't see donald coming out and fighting for rudy, fighting for this supposed illegal raid. this is what donald does. he did the same thing for me when he sat at the table. the only difference is he didn't use my name. ultimately what he is going to do is distance himself from rudy because, again, that's what donald does.

he will distance, distance, distance, and then he will start to denigrate. one of the things we have already saw from donald is simply the fact that he's already stated that, i never directed rudy to do what he did. so he's already giving himself a legal out, which is probably what his insiders and maybe if he has somebody beside him, you know, who's somewhat competent are telling him considering, remember what i had said when i stated that donald trump directed me to make the hush money payments. i guess he has probably learned something from that. >> but that's interesting because that's exactly -- that's the exact parallel, right? donald trump, you had receipts indicating that donald trump caused you to make these payments. it didn't take donald trump down. does donald trump suffer for being dishonest about whether or not he gave his lawyers instructions? >> well, according to rudy he claims that he has insurance. my favorite was listening to his son andrew, who is as funny as

rudy is sometimes, making the ridiculous statement that his father is using sarcasm. that's another line that donald used to say when he said the stupid line about injecting yourself with clorox. oh, i was just being sarcastic. it is not sarcastic. they clearly don't know what the word means or how to use sarcasm. that's just not sarcasm. so the answer is, i don't believe so, no. >> you are a lawyer. rudy giuliani is a lawyer. you kept a lot of records that maybe in some cases helped you. it certainly helped the prosecutors who went after you. i assume that there was a lot of stuff for them to find in rudy giuliani's office and phones. >> well, here is my thoughts on that. they've used the maria yovanovitch issue in order to obtain the warrant. now they have a treasure trophy of information on rudy's cellphones and computer, and they're going to be able to dig through all of that information. rest assured, this is not about

maria yovanovitch. this is not just about ukraine. this could be about a multitude of other issues, you know, that shady rudy has been involved with. as i always say, this is just the icing on the cake when it comes to the southern district of new york review of what is going to be probably inside of rudy's cellphones. he'll probably have information and contact with bill barr, with jared kushner, with don jr. there could be issues regarding the illegal pardons that were given out. who knows what is in there? you know who knows? the southern district of new york and they don't play fair. the funny, the irony here is that rudy was the one who created that playbook for the southern district to really take this gangster tactic, you know, against individuals that they're prosecuting. they're really not prosecuting, they're convicting. so they have rudy on a fara violation. everything else again will be icing on the cake.

>> rudy has stayed very, very loyal to donald trump, in part because in the post-election era he was getting paid a lot of money to do so. when push comes to shove and, as you said, he knows the southern district of new york better than most, is he going to flip on donald trump or is he going to stay loyal? >> well, first of all, rudy and donald -- and i said this on other shows. rudy and donald are not friends. it is not like they have this long standing relationship where they would have dinners. chris christie actually had a longstanding relationship with donald trump. rudy is a newcomer. rudy only became loyal to donald when donald became president and rudy could financially benefit from it and donald was able to financially benefit from rudy in two factors. one is that he had somebody who wasn't charging him and i had somebody who was defending him from the various different, you know, allegations that were being brought against him. so there is not this long relationship. they didn't go to school together.

they didn't like each other. rudy certainly didn't care about donald when he was mayor and he had power, and donald was just a real estate guy. do i think rudy will flip on him? look, rudy has looked like he has lost his mind several times. i don't think he has gone that far that he is going to stay loyal to somebody who is going to throw him under the bus, the same way he did to me. rudy should take me as the example. if donald was willing to throw me under the bus, somebody who watched his back for more than a decade, rudy is a newcomer. he is there for a year or two, right. there's no -- there's no real relationship. so do i think rudy will provide all of the information that he can? absolutely. >> michael, good to see you. thanks as always for joining me. michael cohen is a former person attorney to donald trump, and he is the host of the "mea culpa" podcast and author of "disloyal, a memoire of the true story of the former personal attorney to

donald trump." thank you, my friend. rudy giuliani along with several other bumbling buffoons including sidney powell and the my pillow guy is being sued for pushing the lie that the election was filled with fraud. it is a lie that continues to spread across the country, laying the ground work for the gop's war on voting and the continued effort to cast doubt on the results of the 2020 election. in arizona, the gop- led state senate has confiscated ballots and voting equipment from maricopa county and turn them over to a florida-based firm to count. it is led by a man that has repeated the law. now florida is the latest state on the growing list to pass new measures aimed at restricting

voting rights, measures that appear targeted toward minority and underserved communities. among other things, the measure places restrictions on voting by mail and ballot drop boxes and gives new powers to the governor. it also gives new powers to partisan poll watchers. that's the subject of an important analysis in "the new york times" because the gop push for partisan poll watchers is not isolated to florida but going on in states across the country. republicans can't seem to offer real evidence to justify the need for partisan poll watchers to have more power or other evidence for the need to enact restrictions to voting. as "the new york times" notes this effort has alarmed election officials and voting rights activists alike. there's a long history of poll watchers being used to intimidate voters and harass election workers, often in ways that target communities of color and stoke fears.

the republican bill set to be signed by the mayor this weekend mirrors several measures enacted by georgia and texas. other measures have been introduced by republicans in other states as well as including michigan. joining me is jocelyn benson, the author of "state secretaries of state, guardians of the democratic process." secretary of state benson, good to see you again. thank you for joining us. i am alarmed by all of it. we have had a lot of conversations about this, but this thing going on in arizona seems to have taken an ominous turn. we have an outside group, after judges and inside people all determined, government people determined there was no fraud. they then brought in an outside group, which has set the rules for the recount, has determined who gets to touch the ballots, determined who gets to observe it, has kept journalists out of it and is led by a company that has subscribed to the big lie. i would think that in your book, we have generally agreed in america wherever you are in the

political spectrum that our government should run the elections and count the ballots. >> yes. and in doing so there are certain ground rules that you utilize, both in tabulating valid votes and ensuring that that tabulation through the audit process was conducted by the book. you know, really the way that this is proceeding in arizona, it is like they threw the book out and are really trying to create some sort of focus, revisiting those lies of the 2020 election. but they're not following any of the procedures, any of the best practices, anything that really is what an audit is supposed to do. so that brings up the doubt of, you know, what are they actually trying to do and what is this, quote, unquote, audit going to show. in my view what is happening in arizona and florida as you mentioned and other states is really this three-prong strategy, that the democracy deniers that were undermining democracy throughout 2020 have now engaged in, number one, keep bringing up the big lie. find ways like this audit is

trying to do to remind people or associates of doubt about 2020. also, number two, push for legislation, which is also happening in arizona and florida, that actually undoes that policies that led to such high turnout and security in the 2020 election. the third strategy, and this is the most pernicious of the three in my view, is to change the individuals in charge, whether it is attacking secretaries of state or election administrators, but to put people, poll watchers, as you mentioned, officials in charge of counting and certifying elections in the future that could potentially lead the way for further challenges and efforts to undermine future elections and, you know, overturn the will of the people successfully perhaps next time in the future. >> yeah. i mean it is the kind of thing that goes on in undemocratic countries, right, where they sometimes pretend to have elections but somehow the results are always the same or always favor the same people. i guess we can call what's going on in arizona silly and stupid

and make fun of cyber ninjas and all of that kind of stuff until somebody comes out and says the result of the election has changed. the consequence of mucking around in this system could be democracy. >> yeah, i completely agree. we actually have to take it very seriously because what this is showing is that if you throw out the rule book and allow anyone to potentially tamper with ballots. there's a lot of questions about who is doing this, what they're doing, why they're doing it, there's no bipartisan oversight, no expert involvement from an objective standpoint. this is really partisan individuals coming in and getting access to the sacred materials of an election. if it is then used or if there is tampering or anything that is then used to, again, continue this lie of misinformation about the security of the accuracy of the 2020 election, it could set a domino effect that takes the strategies i mentioned earlier into other states successfully. keep in mind, we have another

election in 2022, in less than two years, and, of course, a presidential election in three-and-a-half years and we have to stay vigilant now to ensure that when those elections come that the rules are in place to protect the people's voices. with this type of incident, you could call it, or fraud as the secretary of state of arizona has called, what is happening in arizona could really set the tone for future efforts to under mine people's voices in significant elections in every state in this country. >> yeah, and it is important to note you've conducted a study of the similarities in some of these laws. so the idea that this is not just an arizona problem, that would be serious unto itself if it were just arizona, but republicans around the country seem to be looking at these things being done in michigan, in pennsylvania, in georgia, in iowa, in kansas, in florida and arizona and texas, and they'll repeat them. so thank you for the hard work you are doing in trying to allow

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situation, one of the three officers, andrew cosella, who was separated from the woman by a five-foot tall chain link fence watched as hughes moved within a few feet of chadwick and shot her four times, claiming amy hughes raised the knife before she fired. the officers then handcuffed hughes and called for paramedics. the other two officers and chadwick said they did not see hughes raise the knife. witnesses confirmed she was holding it at her side holding it with the point down. she was taking medication and managed her behavior in the past. she added if police gave her the chance she would have gotten her to drop the knife. amy hughes survived and sue claiming the officer violated her fourth amendment right by using excessive force. a district court judge disagreed saying the force used was, quote, not objectively unreasonable in light of all of the relevant circumstances. a federal court of appeals reversed the decision, saying

the officer had no reason to believe that deadly force was necessary, should have realized amy hughes was mentally ill and diminished his use of force appropriately. the court added that hughes had, quote, a constitutional right to walk down her driveway holding a knife without being shot. the state then appealed to the supreme court, arguing that the decision to deny casella so-called qualified immunity was at odds with virtually every other circuit court and the supreme court itself. the supreme court agreed and found that, quote, even assuming that a fourth amendment violation occurred on these facts, kisela was entitled to qualified immunity. it protects law enforcement officers as well as state and local officials from frivolous litigation unless the accused violated a clearly established constitutional right and establishing that violation is not easy. so over the years qualified

immunity has become a kind of a shield in thousands of lawsuits seeking to hold police officers accountable when they're accused of using excessive force. proponents of qualified immunity say it is essential because police need the latitude to make split second decisions in scenarios that could put lives, including their own, at risk. in may of last year a reuters' investigation revealed how qualified immunity made it easier for police to kill or injure civilians with impunity by shielding them from lawsuits, but the supreme court in recent years has become more critical of qualified immunity. comments about it were made by clarence thomas and son yeah sotomayor who described it as a shoot first, think later approach to policing. it is one of those things if altered or removed could fundamentally change policing. it is also turning out to be the hill that republican senators are prepared to die on in exchange for supporting the george floyd justice in policing act and for that reason it deserves our attention.

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♪ ♪ after being urged by president biden, congress is working even harder to get the george floyd justice in policing act passed by may 25th, which is the first anniversary of george floyd's murder. lawmakers from both parties came together for an almost hour-long sitdown on thursday in an attempt to reach consensus. they included republican senator tim scott, democratic senator cory booker and democratic congresswoman karen bass. tim scott says nothing happened deterring optimism but senator booker said there's good momentum. the version of the bill that passed the house in march aims to ban chokeholds and ban no-knock warrants at the local level. it seeks to diminish qualified immunity unless the officer violated someone's constitutional rights. republicans do not want to get rid of qualified immunity and it has been a sticking point

plaguing the bill's progress in the senate. joining me, democratic congresswoman barbara lee from california. she voted in march to pass it and had the opportunity to speak with president biden after his first address to congress on wednesday. representative lee, good to see you again. thank you for joining us. talk to me about how you would characterize the discussions about this bill that are going on with republicans as it relates to this issue of qualified immunity. republicans seem to be quite stuck on this because mitch mcconnell talked about it the other day. >> sure, ali. good morning. thank you for having me with you. i have to say that this is such an important issue, first of all. the entire bill, the justice -- the george floyd justice in policing act, but it is extremely important all of the provisions prevail. i know our negotiators, congresswoman bass, senator scott, senator booker, are doing everything they can do to come to consensus on all of the provisions, but, believe you me, no person is above the law, even

police officers. i know that the republicans and senator scott have their points of views. we passed the bill in the house, as you said, with qualified immunity intact. so this is a negotiation, and our negotiators are very clear on what they believe should be in the bill and they're having the talks each and every -- i think the good point about this is they're talking. they're discussing all of these issues. hopefully, as president biden put forth, that they will come to some resolve so that he can have it at his desk and sign it into law. >> how would you characterize the fact that cory booker says things are going well and tim scott says he's less optimistic? >> it is a negotiation. you have republicans and democrats. you have people with different points of view, so their perception and their, you know, analysis of where they are may be different, but the point is

they're still talking. i know congresswoman bass is trying her best. i know senator booker and senator scott. so however it is characterized, i think it is important to recognize and to continue to fight for the passage of this bill. it is urgent. we need this unprecedented reform now. this is a modest measure, quite frankly, but it is designed to hold police accountable, to ensure transparency, and to make sure that we have our data collection so that police officers who do bad things can't move from one place to another without being -- without the transparency there. so there are many provisions of this bill that are very important. so as long as the talks are continuing, i am optimistic that they're going to get this done because the people in our country want it and we can have -- black and brown people in this country are living under siege, ali.

it is difficult for us to even fathom how we got to this point in america because systemic racism is so embedded in all of our systems and structures in this country and in our criminal justice system especially. so we have to make this modest step forward so we can begin to reform the criminal justice system in general. >> you've used terms bipartisanship and negotiation a couple of times in this conversation. if it turns out that the bill that you co-sponsored that got passed by the house ends up as a piece of compromise legislation out of the senate, will you support it? >> well, let me tell you, it is going to be a compromise bill if we get it done. we have to see what the provisions are in it. we don't want a bill that does nothing and that allows these horrific murders of black and brown people to continue to take place. it is time to get this done. enough is enough. so it is hard to say what is going to be in the bill because they're still in the

discussions. so we'll see how it moves forward, but i'm sure that our negotiators are not going to allow a bill that does nothing. i mean they've been in this a long time. we are fighting for criminal justice reform. this has got to stop. so it makes no sense to pass a bill that does not address the issues that keep -- you know, the transparency and accountability with police officers in check. >> congresswoman, good to see you. thanks as always for joining us. democratic congresswoman barbara lee of california. coming up, a 12-year-old girl is heading off to college. 12 years old. then she plans to go to infinity and beyond. details on her inspiring story with "velshi" returns. but the. they want to be set free. to make the world more responsible, and even more incredible.

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♪ ♪ all this week the networks of nbc news are highlighting people, some you know, some you don't know, who are inspiring america and looking to make a difference in their communities. this morning we wanted to introduce you to 12-year-old alina wicker, whose goal is literally to shoot for the stars. this child prodigy graduated from high school this year after exceeding all expectations and requirements in her home school classes. now she's headed to arizona university. she is 12. she will pursue a dual degree in astronomical and planetary science and chemistry. the educational process is all part of her big goal of landing a post-college job as a nasa engineer by the age of 16.

it is a lofty goal for some but not alina. she loves stem, science, technology, engineering and math, and has a desire to build space rovers and drive them in space as well. she has been fuelled by the recent success of the ingenuity copter to mars posting, one day i will be on one of those teams. here is what she told a local news station, quote, i just had a goal that i wanted to get to. it doesn't matter what your age or what you're planning to do. go for it, dream, then accomplish it. in addition to starting college she plans to start a podcast and launch a website to inspire more girls to dream big. you will hear more about individuals inspiring america, which airs tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern on nbc and again tomorrow at 10:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. don't miss it. speaking of inspiring individuals, i want to bring in

my friend and colleague tiffany cross. tiffany, i got to tell you, at 12 years old, college was not a blip on my radar. i was thinking about what i was going to eat next. >> let me tell you, ali, i'm in my 40s and i'm not great at math, so i need to catch up with that young lady because she could probably teach me a few things. i love she is show inspiring. i want to tell you we have an inspiring show coming up next on "cross connection." i will get the latest on the rudy giuliani investigation from congress mmm jeffries, a former impeachment manager. i'm sure he has a lot to say. we will look back at the first 1400 days of vice president kamala harris. some would say she is inspirational as well. her communications director is joining us. of course, we will discuss that crazy tim scott gop rebuttal. i have a very special message for the south carolina senator, so you don't want to miss that. >> ooh. >> ali, i know you probably will leave after the show but stick

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. ♪ ♪ the silent majority was a term made popular by president richard nixon, referring to conservatives who have opinions but don't express them. that has given way to those with opinions and say the quiet parts out loud. this week rick santorum spoke at a conservative youth conference and shared his thoughts about the native american community. we carefully considered whether to give air to what he said but decided ultimately it is important to shine a light on where the republican party and the conservative movement is on the issue of race in america and what its leaders and elder statesmen are teaching the next generation because it shows

where we are. watch. >> we birthed a nation from nothing. there was nothing here. yes, we had native americans but, candidly, there isn't much native american culture in american culture. it was born of the people who came here. >> to be clear, native americans who populated this country before european colonizers arrived had a rich life and culture, a culture that colonizers in turn tried and in many cases managed to destroy and appropriate. native american culture can be seen in art, music, sports, food, medicine and what we know as democracy stem from a political system developed by native americans in 1142, considered to be the oldest living participatory democracy on earth. joining me now is one of the first two native american women to serve in congress, sharice davis of can as, the vice-chairman of the infrastructure committee and the cochairman of the native american caucus. we will talk about those in a second.

congresswoman, we are talking about a lot of firsts here, we know you are one of the first two native american women, the first democrat elected in kansas in a decade, the first openly lgbt native american elected to congress, you were raised by an army veteran mom. mostly, the thing we never get to talk about is you were a former mma fighter. i don't know if everybody knows about you but it is fantastic. >> it is great to be back here with you. i love everything that you just said. also, i have to say that i loved the segment about alina. i am very excited to see what she does in her life. >> that will be amazing to watch. let's talk about what rick santorum said. on one level we don't want to give these things air and oxygen. on the other level it is a moment to remind people who were listening to santorum he is just wrong about that. people didn't just show up here and there was nothing, and there

aren't -- there's ample evidence of native american culture in our lives and around us. >> yeah. well, rick santorum might be surprised to hear that we are still here, and i think that you're absolutely right. it is hard to decide what to do in that situation, but certainly i think highlighting the ignorance of his statements and really his train of thought is i actually think very important, and that's because right now we are at a place in our country's history where we know that the relationship between the united states and indigenous or native people that have been here for a long time is obviously complex. it is painful a lot of times, and these ignorant comments just highlight exactly why we have to be talking about this and that,

yes, native people contribute so much to our country. it is really important, so i'm glad we are getting a chance to highlight that. >> do you -- are you making strides in dealing with that kind of ignorance, the fact we now have a cabinet secretary in deb haaland, the fact -- i know you don't go to congress every day representing some indigenous native interest, but you are making progress. we have had members that have native ancestry, and some still do, does it help move the needle? >> yes, i think this idea of having a more reflective government is really, really important. you know, in 2018 when deb haaland and i were elected to be the first two native american women to serve in congress it

had a huge impact. in part, one, because the policies that we were pushing for as two people who both have law degrees and both really understand the relationship between the u.s. government and tribal governments, but also because of lived experience. we know that being in the room, asking the questions, looking around and saying, who else hasn't been here before is a really important part of what we bring to the table when people like now secretary haaland and i show up to all the different places that we go to in dc and the seat of our federal government power. >> i want to ask you about infrastructure. it's a topic you know a lot about. it's a topic americans will know a lot about in the coming days. this administration is proposing a sweeping infrastructure bill that addresses the things we normally think of, roads and bridges. it addresses broadband and rural areas. it goes further than that and addresses a lot of things that republicans are being critical of of a democratic wish list,

things that are not hard infrastructure so they don't think it should be funded by the government. your thoughts? >> i feel like infrastructure is the mechanism by which all of us are able to stay connected, to get connected to each other and opportunity. infrastructure is the thing that helps us live the lives we want to live. and certainly infrastructure and what it means has evolved over time. i'm old enough to remember when broadband wouldn't have been considered part of infrastructure and now we know that if we are talking about broadband, people will think that we don't know what we're doing. and obviously the conversation about infrastructure has got to continue to evolve. and i'm really glad that the biden administration is open to a robust infrastructure package because that's what this country really needs. >> congresswoman, good to see you. thanks for joining us.

democratic representative shah rece davis of kansas and former mma fighter. good to see you. thanks for joining us this morning. joe biden has made a decision that will further crush the former president's dream of a wall along the u.s./mexican border. we'll get the latest on that next. and strengthens and protects natural teeth. so, are you gonna lose another tooth? not on my watch! you could take your ulcerative colitis treatment in a different direction. talk to your doctor about xeljanz, a pill, not an injection or infusion, for adults with moderate to severe ulcerative colitis when a certain medicine did not help enough. xeljanz is the first and only fda-approved pill for moderate to severe uc. it can reduce symptoms in as early as two weeks, improve the appearance of the intestinal lining, and provide lasting steroid-free remission. xeljanz can lower your ability to fight infections. before and during treatment, your doctor should check for infections,

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president biden is further tearing down one of the former president's fondest of promises. the biden administration announced that it would cancel all construction of the border wall that was paid for with military funds. in 2019 the former administration redirected military money to build a wall along the u.s./mexico border. president biden will return the unused money to the military. construction of the border wall has been on hold since biden took office. for more than a year u.s. borders have been closed to families seeking asylum because of the coronavirus pandemic. according to an article by "the wall street journal," nearly 900

people have been processed and allowed into the united states in the first three weeks of april. "the wall street journal" has said though the biden administration says the border is closed, it is making exceptions for some families and unaccompanied children, government officials confirmed on friday. that's a great sign but there's a massive problem that needs fixing at the border. president biden sat down with craig melvin and declined to call the influx of migrants at the border a crisis. he further blamed the trump administration for its lack of cooperation. >> the two departments who didn't give us access to virtually anything were in immigration and the defense department. so we didn't find out that they had fired a whole lot of people, that they were under staffed considerably. we didn't know any of that on my first day. >> well, today's mayday, otherwise known as international workers' day. many of the workers that keep america running are in fact

immigrants. thousands are expected to rally for workers' rights. julia ainsley is there. the rally is expected to get underway in about an hour. julia, good morning to you. what's the situation? >> hey, good morning, ali. you're right. we still have about an hour. there are already people coming here outside the white house. i've had a chance to speak to a few of them. many are essential workers. i spoke to one man who told me he connects internet in people's houses, something that's really essential while everyone is working from home. his brother was deported last year. he worries about other families being separated unless the president can make good on the promise to pass immigration reform. up until this point there have actually been a lot of promises that president biden hasn't been able to make good on. yes, they have stopped construction on the military part of the wall, but there are other promises like reuniting families who were separated under trump that haven't been made good on yet and they're

really looking for the president to put his political capital behind this immigration reform plan, to give status to undocumented immigrants, an estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants in the country. they'll come here today at the white house, there will be music, there will be speeches and then they will proceed past here to the national mall with a walk towards the capitol demanding action. there have been permits for up to 3,000. we do expect at least 30 groups to be here today represented as they try to put pressure on this administration because, ali, they say they're frustrated. they expected -- they elected a president who so far hasn't come through on what they thought were his key immigration platform issues. >> and, julie, what about this redirecting of funding to the border wall? will that make much of a difference? there really wasn't much going on on a border wall since biden has become president. >> well, that's right. he had already done a pause on

all of the construction at the border but this will be a permanent cancellation, at least on that portion funded by the military. ali, they still have to decide what to do with parts of the wall funded with dhs money appropriated by congress. this was already a decision delayed far past the 60 day deadline the president originally gave. it ended up being here in his 100th day where he finally agreed to that one piece. >> julia, good to see you as always. thank you for joining us. nbc's julia ainsley in washington, d.c. we'll be covering that gathering throughout the course of the day. thanks for watching. i'm back tomorrow morning 8 a.m. to 10 a.m. eastern where you'll see my interview with heather boushey. i'll talk to her about whether the biden administration is prepared to cut more stimulus checks for americans in the near future. the cross connection with my friend tiffany cross begins right now.

the documents they seized, easily half of them involve my representation of the president of the united states as a lawyer, and when i was a prosecutor when we used to obey the constitution, you would never do this. >> good morning. i'm tiffany cross and we have a jam packed "cross connection" as we talk voting rights, that bizarre rebuttal by tim scott and vice president harris's historic 100 days. we have to begin with the latest in the rudy giuliani scandal. following the fbi raid of his home and office, he's pushing back on the quick developing story of his potential crimes and has found the time to shoot a "hamilton" documentary. nbc news caught up with the former mayor just this morning. >> today we're filming the places in new york that