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makes it easy to switch and save hundreds. good day to all of you from msnbc world headquarters in new york. welcome, everyone, to alex witt reports. we have breaking news. thousands of people are gathering along the national mall in washington, d.c. they're calling on action on immigration reform.

we'll have a live report from the rally in just minutes for you. also developing this weekend, the president hitting the road to sell his am beshs recovery plan. president biden will be in yorkdown, virginia, on monday following a stop in philadelphia yesterday, commemorating amtrak's 50th anniversary and as he looks to congress to get his work on his $4 trillion jobs and family plan, house majority whip james clyburn, who are balking at the price. >> the price tag is big, but the price tag of not doing this is much, much bigger. i think we ought to talk about what the cost is to this country. new details into the federal investigation into rudy giuliani, investigators are examining data. msnbc confirms fbi agents warned giuliani two years ago that he was being targeted by a russian

intelligence, as he sought opposition research on the biden family. according to mayor giuliani, the event described never happened. giuliani out and about in new york city today telling nbc news he's filming a documentary while teasing an announcement. >> we're going to remind the whole world new york was the first capitol of the united states and you know what hamilton would agree with me on? it's the capitol of the world. >> mr. mayor, what do you think about what's going on? >> if the people want a statement about this whole thing i'll break something very big this afternoon in weehawken, new jersey. >> we go beyond the headlines with msnbc reporters in washington and new york. we begin with shannon pettypiece in washington. the president spent the last few days selling his jobs plan to americans and how does he plan to get it through congress. >> alex, expect him to continue this roadshow. he's got stops in virginia and louisiana this week, and of course, that is about building

public support and that public support the white house is hoping will put pressure republicans and democrats in congress to work together on something, but he is under a lot of pressure from democrats to move quickly and to move even without republican support. here's what one democratic congressman had to say about that. >> i am not of the mind that we should be delaying progress for the purpose of getting one or two republican co-sponsors when it's very clear that their objective for the most part is to obstruct the progress that president biden would like to see. >> that was representative jones of new york and the white house is onboard with this urgency, too. they want to see counter proposals in the next two weeks. so by mid-may and if by memorial day, officials say, they have not made significant progress to a bipartisan deal, they will re-assess their options and one of those options could be for democrats to go it alone and try to get this through if they can

get those moderate democrats onboard. >> thank you, shannon pettypiece. >> we are following this breaking news, thousands are rallying on the national mall and calling on congress to protest on immigration. what are folks there telling you? >> reporter: well, we've got about 1500 people here, alex, according to the police that we've spoken to. one of those activists here, i have sulma areda from community change action. we are going quickly down the national mall here, but sulma, i wanted to ask you, why are people here, is it the frustration with president biden that he hasn't done enough so far. >> today is may day, may 1st is a day when we celebrate workers. today is extra special for a number of reasons. one because biden is to have a hundred days in the

administration and any day that we wait for citizenship for workers is too long. we've waited over 20 years and these are essential workers who are being celebrated and lifting up their voices today because there's no building back, there is no rebuilding this country without recognizing the workers that have carried this country through the pandemic. these are the workers who have taken care of the sick, who put food on our table, so today's about a celebration of that, but it's also about lifting up and reminding this country that we cannot build back without essential workers, without immigrants and it's time to finally create a path to citizenship for over 11 million immigrants who are continuing to keep this country going. >> thank you. >> we are hearing a lot about essential workers today. may day is an international day for labor and we've spoken to some people who say, look, their parents are undocumented, but

they're food workers or they work in technology. we are finding now that there are a number of people who are frustrated, particularly with biden and congress for not pushing forward on immigration reform enough and they say it's not enough that biden just tackles the dreamers. they want a path to citizenship for all 11 million undocumented immigrants in this country, alex. >> they've been living with those frustrations for quite a while, julia ainsley. let's go to the latest reaction on fbi raids of rudy giuliani's home and office. he will make a statement on the federal investigation at some point this afternoon. let's go to lindsay reiser outside giuliani's home in new york city. what are you hearing in the big picture here? >> reporter: hey, alex, good to see you. so we are hearing that giuliani might be making some big announcement later today in weehawken, new jersey. we are trying to nail that down, and our crew was the only one out here when he announced that.

we got a taste of what he might say with the interviews that he's been doing with newsmax and he's been defending himself with his own podcast and let's tell you what exactly this is all about. cnbc confirmed that fbi showed up and the doorman showed them, and they took away an ipad. this is in part to find potential evidence of the 2019 firing of the marie yovanovitch. giuliani's attorney is saying this whole raid is legal thuggery and he's never been a lobbyist for any agent or government and he's only spoken out publicly against marie yovanovitch because he believed she was undermining president trump. let's talk about his client and former president trump. >> the documents they seized, easily half of them involved my

representation of the president of the united states as a lawyer and when i was a prosecutor when we used to obey the constitution you would never do this. >> so giuliani has deny good wrongdoing. he also calls the doj, corrupt and unethical. we should mention that my colleague craig melvin sat down with joe biden this week and asked him do you have any advanced knowledge of giuliani's home and office and he found out that the public did. >> thank you so much and we'll keep abreast of what happens with any potential announcement with your health. manuel ruiz is chairman of the congressional hispanic caucus. congressman, we will talk about where you are in just a few moments, but first of all, tell me what you make of the probe into rudy giuliani. do you think it sends a message to those who are close to donald trump? >> i think it sends a message to

not only them, but to the entire country that nobody's above the law and that there is enough probability to get a search warrant then the department of justice will serve justice. and so this is very important given that in the previous administration oftentimes people thought they were above the law and used the department of justice for their own personal gain. in this case, president biden has completely excluded himself from any of these processes and he's not involved in this. it is purely a doj-led effort. >> you saw a clip of the d.c. demonstrators demanding reform and organizers say the right steps are being taken as president biden pledges to overhaul the u.s. immigration system, but they say it's not enough until congress acts on it. what does comprehensive immigration reform look like to you, sir and what shape will it

need to get to the president's desk? >> well, we have a bill that was a manifestation of president biden fulfilling his promise he made to stakeholders and to congress and the american people of day one. he introduced his immigration plan and we have it in the form of the u.s. citizenship act that linda sanchez and bob menendez and that bill is a bill that comprehensively will fix our immigration system and will not only ensure that we deal with the root causes of migration and also create an earned pathway to citizenship for 11 million individuals and it will also help with the economy, we know from previous studies that immigration reform will boost the economy $1.4 billion in gdp and will increase jobs by 2 million and will overall increase american families'

salaries by 780 billion and this is the right boost to the economy and we need this to build back better. >> the president addressed the unaccompanied migrant children at the border and it was an interview with craig melvin. let's talk a listen to part of what he said together. >> it is getting urgent. for example, a month ago we had thousands of young kids in custody in places they shouldn't be controlled by the border patrol. we have now cut that down dramatically. >> you've said to migrants, don't come. you said don't come. you're very clear. would you tell parents in central america and mexico, don't send your kids? >> absolutely. look, here's the deal -- >> don't send your kids. that's the message. >> do not send the kids. they're in jeopardy making that thousand-mile trek. so what we're doing now is we're going back to those countries in question where most of them are coming from saying, look, you can apply from your country.

you don't have to make this trek. >> so the president is sending a very clear message, do you think it is the right message to send and what more needs to be done to get the message across? >> absolutely. it is so refreshing to hear a president who actually has compassion and cares for the families and the children that have taken the risk to take on the dangerous trek to the north blame hunger, corruption, and poverty as opposed to the president that used torture to intimidate them to not come. to register and seek asylum in their home countries is key and they're furthering that with working with the u.s. department of agriculture to help build the subsistence agriculture industry in those countries that have been devastated by severe hurricanes which is one of the reasons why families are coming

to the united states. they're working to help improve the economy, to combat the violence, to go after narco traffickers and the coyotes taking advantage of these families so there is a lot that is happening and so i'm very, very hopeful that we will find a solution very, very soon. >> i'm going to call you doctor for this question, sir. the u.s. reaching a new milestone with 100 million americans now fully vaccinated. today as an e.r. physician, you are helping deliver covid vaccines in that district there. what's it like for you to play such a hands-on role in keeping your constituents safe from the virus? >> it's called bliss. every cell in my body is tingling knowing that i'm making a difference for an individual they go back to my true love and my first love and the profession that i love most and it is being manifested and made possible because of president biden's retail pharmacy program. you see, we are here with rite

aid and an equity collaborative grassroots doing good, old-fashioned community public health outreach and with this program we have vaccinated over 7,000 of the highest risk, hardest-hit community members in the hardest to reach areas. we're in a very remote, impoverished community and it feels so good to see that it's delivering hope and security and people here are feeling so good about getting vaccinated today. >> can i say i'm loving this so much because my late father is a surgeon and i grew up with him wearing scrubs and a white lab coat. it's wonderful to see you like that. let me ask one more question. despite the success so far, there is a question how big a challenge vaccine hesitancy will be achieved herd immunity.

>> one of the best ways is to continue to vaccinate as many people as possible because at some point you will vaccinate that skeptic's wife and their children and their children are going to tell them that before they can see their grandchildren they're going to need to get vaccinated and so the more you vaccinate the people around their community and their family, then you're going to help convince them, but look, this is very important to understand that we need to start using a different methodology to reach those who have been hardest hit. going into the community is very important, and we also have to re-think the way we think about herd immunity. its not just only about the u.s. as a whole, but if you can look at geographic communities and neighborhoods like north shore and southern california in my district and then if you can reach herd immunity, in this community it would mean 70%, or

80% of adults and you will reach the hardest hit and hardest to reach communities. so herd immunity can be reached inning. >> in geographical bubbles and thinking about the methodology and the variants in our country, we will be able to reach herd immunity under president biden's plan. >> step by step help raul ruiz, thank you so much for the effort on both fronts. appreciate it. >> police reform and the why it's becoming a national problem in america. that's next. g a national problem in america that's next. for grilled cheese.♪ my name is douglas. i'm a writer/director for grilled cheese.♪ and i'm still working. in the kind of work that i do, you are surrounded by people

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the measure also would no longer require training and that worries police like the dallas police lieutenant who testified against the bill. >> having to stop an individual with a gun is always dangerous even if they're law-abiding, good-intentioned individuals who currently can carry handguns and receive training on the laws and handling of the weapon. imagine making that same stop knowing there were no checks or training to carry a weapon. >> stunning that he would have to make a statement like that. it goes to the senate after passing in the house. the did thely police shootings of breon on taylor and andrew brown jr. the doj announced a civil probe of the police department whose officers shot taylor during a botched raid last year. they're investigating last week's shooting of brown in north carolina. joining me, cnbc contributor and civil rights attorney david

henderson and baltimore state's attorney. marilyn, your reaction when you heard both of these federal investigations, what do you expect to come out of them? >> so i'm really excited because i think what is happening right now is that we understand from the department of justice that we have to look into these patterns and practices of policing in this country and so what they're going to look for is the systemic policing issues that exist within the respective police departments whether there is a pattern of unconstitutional and enforcement in those departments and if they find a pattern or practice of unconstitutional policing and a report will be issued with their findings and the government can at that point either bring a suit against the department or enter into a consent decree for the department's finding. >> does this signal to you that police reform is becoming a national priority?

>> alex, it is a national priority, whenever we talk about issues like this, part of what we have to do in assessing police reform is take an historic approach and if we do that with regard to what we are discussing, i agree with everything marilyn said. we do have a civil rights probe by the justice department after the michael brown shooting in ferguson and we did not find indirect evidence of systemic problems with policing directly relating to race. we found direct evidence and despite those findings we've continued to have problems as you've indicated nah shal nationally with police reform. it is coming at a the biden admin at a time when there is police reform and we can only hope it leads to a long-term result. >> this is for you, marilyn, from 2015 to '16, the doj

launched a probe into baltimore policing after the death of freddy gray. we talked during that time, as well. as the lead prosecutor, what does the investigation do for the city of baltimore? >> it did a lot. first and foremost, you need accountability and that's key. when i made the decision to charge six police officers for the death of freddy gray, a 25-year-old innocent black man who made eye contact with police in a high-crime neighborhood decided to run and whose spine was partially severed and his pleas for medical attention were ignored. that accountability ultimately led to reform. we then had an exposure, a week after i charged those officers the justice department came in and exposed a discriminatory practices of the eighth large of the police department in the country and that ultimately led to the reform that we have an enforceable consent decree and what we can point to are tangible sort of reforms. so we have in the city of baltimore, body worn cameras on

all officers and the use of fort and de-escalation policies that have sanctity of life and the mandates to seat belt all prisoners, the police must call a medic when a prisoner asks for a medic. there are cameras in all of the vehicles and there are software verification to ensure that police can't get up on the stand and say i wasn't aware of the general procedures and protocol, but there are still systems of reform that we have to take up and that is including the law enforcement bill of rights, police investigating themselves, you know, circumventing the communities that we represent and so that and a lot of that is appropriate and the george floyd policing act of 2021. >> but let me get back to cameras with you, david, as we circle back to north carolina because for ten straight days now, the protesters there have been demanding transparency during the investigation into brown's death. this week, a judge ruled that body camera footage will not be made public for at least 30

days. so as an attorney, is this unusual or concerning for you? >> alex, i've got mixed feelings about what's going on in this video, and i have to start by saying that the protesters have made an impact even though it may not feel like it right now. i have to compare it to what i've seen in the past. in dallas we had a man named tony tempa that was killed by police after he called for help. it took years in a protracted legal battle to get that video released. the mere fact that it will take days versus years is in itself a victory. we are seeing more concerning things surrounding the release of the video. one, it's a hot potato, the only person that seems comfortable hanging on to it is the d.a. because he knows that he'll be responsible for seeking justice ultimately, but he's talking out of both sides of his mouth. he doesn't think the video

should be released because it may influence of the investigation and he's talking about the video in a form that he knows the public will hear it. he's concerned how releasing the video may impact the trial and he's forecasting the possibility of a trial which is a stronger statement about the contents of the video than follow thor shouldive's recommendation of releasing it, being transparent and try to restore some degree of trust. >> i love how your experience is being able to say what being said. prosecutor from the chauvin trial, jerry blackwell will discuss police reformat 5:00 p.m. tomorrow, reverend sharpton will speak to the mayor of elizabeth city. watch "politics nation" here on

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designed for the golden days ahead. ( ♪♪ ) let's go now to india where global relief is arriving to fight the coronavirus cases. a shipment arrived from russia and they expanded eligibility to anyone 18 years and older as the country reports more than 400,000 new covid cases. sky news special correspondent alex crawford is in new delhi where people have been wait for example hours for a new shipment of oxygen. >> reporter: the cue goes all of the way down that road and continues up this one and all of the way back there. some of these people have been waiting since 2:00 in the morning. ten hours later the oxygen has only just arrived.

this is the state that india is in right now. ten days after lockdown people are still bartering and buying desperately trying to get a hold of oxygen because there is a shortage of it on top of a shortage of vaccines. the only way that india will try to curb this huge spike in coronavirus cases, yet another global high today is to bring out and rollout of the vaccine and so far very few hospitals in delhi have got it and very few hospitals throughout the country have got the vaccination. they've been told to wait for possibly another 20 days. this is on the day that they were trying to roll out vaccination program for 18 years and over. they simply don't have enough oxygen. they don't have enough vaccines to do that. with most hospitals reporting throughout the country that they don't have enough stock. how has it come to this? there are so many questions being asked about how india is in this position?

>> thank you, alex crawford for that, here to help us answer those questions msnbc medical contributor dr. uche block and natalie azar. reporter alex crawford asked that question, how is india in this position? how did this surge in cases there get so severe while the rest of the world has been able to somewhat control the spread? >> right. it's such an important question and what's going on there is incredibly devastating and there are multiple factors and the b-1.1.7 variant that's thought to be one of the primary causes and they also have their own homegrown variant and the 135.1 originally described in south africa. they've had a relaxation of restrictions, large political rallies, cultural events and

large cultural events and transmission and low supply of vaccination. they only rolled out vaccinations to a very, very small percentage of the population, so all of those factors have essentially created the perfect storm in terms of what we're seeing with these global records in india, currently. >> it is pretty sobering there. >> dr. azar, how does india begin to turn this around? when could we start seeing cases there drop or even plateau? >> unfortunately, alex, even with international aid which is so necessary and with an increased number of vaccinations being made available there, that lag is going to be weeks and weeks and weeks before any significant immunity will be, you know, triggered by that, and unfortunately, experts are saying they haven't even reached their peak. that will happen in the next two to three weeks and unfortunately, we'll still see this very, very steep incline in

cases. normally in a situation like that, the only appropriate thing or thing that you can do is to completely lock down and shut down. that's the most effective mechanism to curb the spread, and i just think that logistically that's not something that can happen there. i'm very, very nervous for the next few weeks for all of those individuals in india. >> yeah. rightly so. we all are. let's take a look at a startling scene. thousands of people crowded into a liverpool nightclub, zero masks and no social distancing and it was part of a trial trying to assess how to re-open venus. attendees were required to test negative before this event and dr. blackstock, i'm curious what you think of the images and what do you expect the results of this trial to be. >> it was a little bit of a shock. it looked like pre-covid time.

we're not used to seeing that. it's one thing for people to test negative before going to the event and i would be concerned about the vaccination status of people in that venue. if people are not vaccinated or only partially vaccinated i do have the concern that you would see viral transmission. so it would be interesting to see what the result of this study are, but uk has done such a great job with vaccinating their population, and i know they've re-opened recently and these sorts of experiments, we'll probably see more of them in the future. >> if i didn't know, i would say that's old 2019 file video for sure. it shows 20% of americans still say they don't plan on getting the covid vaccine and that number's been concerning for the last several month, dr. azar. how do we change the mind of that group of americans and are hopes of herd immunity is gone

if 20% of adults don't get the shot? >> let me answer the second part first and that is what it has encompassed in the herd immunity number is of course, vaccination rates in adults and we're hoping, of course, that within the next few months we'll be able to get the population of 12 and older vaccinated and that will make a significant impact, i think, and there is this concept of natural immunity have having had infection and that's not as measurable and generally speaking, immunity from infect is not as robust and durable and may not be as effective against variants and i sort of flipped that number on its head and i say 80% of americans polled say they would get it and i think that's a good number. to the first part of your question, data shows, research shows that individuals trust their health care providers. they like to see their friends and maybe family members getting

vaccinated. i just spent 45 minutes on the phone the other night with one of my best friends from high school and she was kind of on the fence and dr. fauci calls them on the fencers. so even if it's a grassroots effort or it's one patient at a team, or one individual at a time, i think more and more people will get there and that number is a snapshot in time and it will change, alex. >> we will hope your exactly right and you usually are. dr. blackstock, and dr. azar, good to see you. up next, what the democrats may do to block the barriers to the voting booth. k the barriers the voting booth

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new video of rudy giuliani outside his new york city apartment today promising to make a statement this afternoon on the intensifying federal probe. investigators are seeking information regarding giuliani's efforts to oust then-ambassador to the ukraine marie yovanovitch. giuliani denied he was working on behalf of the ukrainians. former secretary of state hillary clinton his former senate opponent was on the

reidout. >> he's been behaving so erratically, i don't have any inside information. i'll let the justice system work, but clearly, there's a serious investigation under way. i don't know what happened to him. i don't recognize him now. i don't know what's gotten into him and we'll see what the investigation concludes. >> let's now get a legal perspective from boston globe columnist and co-host of hash tag sisters in law podcast, nbc news contributor kimberly atkins. good to see you, my friend. let's make the point that you're also an attorney. when you take in all of these pieces, what is your take here and what do you think giuliani could potentially say later today? >> yeah. i have no idea given some of the press conferences we've seen from -- >> good point. >> what he's going to say tonight, but what this does show is that this is a very serious matter, that rudy giuliani is the subject of a serious

investigation, if it rose to the level that federal prosecutors were able to obtain a search warrant to execute a search on his apartment to execute a search and take those electronic devices. search warrants aren't things that are passed out like candy, certainly not when it involves someone that is an attorney and special procedures have to be followed to protect the attorney-client privilege of any information that is collected. he is the former attorney of a u.s. president. he's claiming that that means or his son claims that that means they can target anyone and it's quite the opposite. federal prosecutors will make sure every t is crossed and every i is dotted so nothing goes wrong. so if all of those things happen, this tells me that this is a pretty serious matter that federal prosecutors are looking very intently into. >> rudy giuliani knows well and good exactly what it takes to execute this kind of search

warrant. >> he does. he knows that the is have to be dotted and the ts crossed and the fact that he's calling this a witch hunt is a ploy to influence anybody out there who could be listening to him. that said, do you expect an indictment? does anything indicate that giuliani could flip on donald trump and work that to his advantage? >> we don't know yet. it's a possibility, but we just don't have enough information yet. this search warrant could mean -- it certainly means hooz he's a subject that is an important person in this investigation. it doesn't mean that he's a target or there is another target in order to exert pressure and these are still question marks that have not been answered yet that may not be answered for some time and we certainly know that this is serious. that much we do know and you're absolutely right and giuliani himself is a former federal prosecutor so we know exactly

what's happening. let's turn together to the florida election bill that is setting the stage for a host of voting restrictions and take a listen to florida representative amare hardy from this morning. here it is. >> we are just going to have to put pressure on our federal legislators, our members of congress and folks like joe manchin and kyrsten sinema to do the right thing and pass the voting rights law and this is effectively moot if we pass the john lewis voting rights act. >> that is right on the front lines there as more bills are being passed to restrict voting, how likely do you think congress would feel to have pressure and enact? >> well, they should because, as you're pointing out there are hundreds of laws that are swiftly being enacted right now that will restrict voters' access to the polls. this happened after the u.s. supreme court gutted a key part of the voting rights act.

it could severely limit another voting rights act and another case that's pending and the only way to stop that is for congress to act. in order to do that that means getting rid of the filibuster in the senate ask that comes down to joe manchin and kristen sinema and it's been used to block voting rights litigation. if there was ever a time to get rid of something to stymie civil rights over decades it would be to protect voting rights and that's precisely the message that other democrats would be making to them and urging them to do just that. >> kimberly atkins, always good to see you. thank you so much. >> an election law expert says what's happening in arizona would be comical if it weren't so scary. new details on that alarming audit next. w details on that alg audit next

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a new bizarre attempt by arizona republicans to verify ballots from the 2020 election. nbc news obtained internal documents that reveal workers planned to use ultraviolet lights in their audit into donald trump's loss. joining me now, arizona secretary of state katie hobbes. katie, welcome back. let's get into this. we know that the private company, called cyber ninja, is recounting more than 2 million ballots from maricopa county and that's the county joe biden narrowly won. the company fought in court to keep details secret but how concerned are you about future elections and the potential for this kind of thing happening repeatedly? >> well, i'm extremely concerned, and you know, as comical as this whole thing has been to watch, it is extremely alarming. they are, right now, writing a playbook on this type of exercise for the rest of the

country, and i guarantee they're looking at going into other states that trump narrowly lost as well, so what we've seen from day one is that nobody was prepared for this. they're making it up as they go along. they are, right now, implementing and modifying procedures while this is taking place, which is causing confusion for some of the ballot counters, and nothing that we're seeing is based on actual election expertise or best practices in the industry. so, you know, we don't know what they're looking for or trying to verify, but they're not using any kind of industry standards in what they're doing. >> well, and in fact, this week, a judge granted your office access to monitor the audit. you've got three observers in there. let's see, ryan, jennifer, and liz. have they reported back any irregularities? i mean, how do you think this vote tally is going to end?

>> well, certainly, they brought to light the concerns about procedures being modified as they go, and so that is concerning. it's something that can definitely cause errors, and they saw it causing confusion for some of the volunteers, and so that, you know, brings up concerns about the validity or error rates that might be occurring because of that. but then also, just really seeing that what they're doing is not in line at all with best practices in terms of any type of election audit. >> but here's what republican lawmakers have said, that the audit would help them write new election laws and restore trust in the state's democratic process. the maricopa county board of supervisors already conducted two audits, found no evidence, by the way, of any widespread election fraud. so, let's say that cyber ninja reports, yeah, there were some ballot errors. how damaging would that be for the state's election process? >> well, listen, as you

mentioned, we have conducted all of the audits that were required under law and then maricopa county did three additional audits, and two of those were done by outside independent certified firms that do this as their job so they know what they're doing, and none of that satisfied the concerns of these lawmakers who are using this -- these concerns as the basis to pass bills that are just going to make it harder for people to vote. none of the legislation that we have seen introduced around this past election or using this past election to justify does anything to fix any actual issues in our election processes. we have had no excuse absentee voting and wide participation in vote by mail in arizona for decades. it's not a system that voters mistrust. it is these elected officials,

these politicians that are working overtime to spread the mistrust to justify their actions. >> let me ask you really quickly, though, about arizona republic reporter ryan mendazo who got kicked out of the audit after he tweeted this photo. it's a photo of state representative andy riggs taking a photo of the facility. what's behind being kicked out? what was the problem here as it was alleged? >> you know, i don't know the issue. i think it's really concerning that they're allowing -- that it took a court order for them to allow press access in the first place, but then they're being very discriminatory about the press that's allowed so i don't know what was behind him being removed but as far as my understanding goes, there's no agreement that they are not going to take pictures of people in the facility, and so i'm not sure how they justified having him removed over that photo. >> okay. arizona secretary of state katie

hobbs, still on the job. thank you so much for talking with us. new developments on the rudy giuliani investigation. he's promising to speak out today. in fact, at any moment, after the raids of his home and office. our expert legal analysis next. office our expert legal analysis next ♪ ♪ (engine starts) the john deere z365r ztrak mower is here, and it's built for taking it easy. look, it says so right there. (sounds of mower cutting grass) it even makes mulching a breeze. ♪ ♪ so you can cut the hassle out of yard work, and focus on the reason lawns exist in the first place. run with us, because the best job is the one that's easily done. nothing runs like a deere. get a new z300 series zero-turn mower with 0% apr for 24 months at your john deere dealer today. look ma, no cavities!

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