tv Stephanie Ruhle Reports MSNBC May 3, 2021 6:00am-7:01am PDT
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vaccinated. i have always been a proponent of masks in public. people are wearing the masks voluntarily and using their common sense and judgment but socialization is part of who we are as a community so we're hoping we can return back to normal, pre-covid levels, soon. that does it for us this morning. stephanie ruhle picks up the coverage right now. >> thanks for watching. hi, there, i'm stephanie ruhle, live at msnbc headquarters here in new york city. it's monday, may 3rd, let's get smarter w his first 100 days behind him, president biden kicking off a make-or-break month for his sweeping economic plans trying to give negotiations with republicans some time to work but making it very clear, those talks will no go on forever. as we speak, president biden leaving the white house, headed to virginia to pitch his agenda again, his third stop in the
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last five days. meanwhile in d.c., there's appears to be some actual progress towards bipartisanship. the white house has been in regular contact with republicans and democrats. 415 phone calls to date along with two dozen senate and house level briefings. so far cabinet members personally lobbied more than 60 members of congress. key republicans, including shelley moore capito, have been invited to the white house, possibly coming there in days. and a meeting with leaders from both parties is set for wednesday. >> look, the president said he's going to work hard with anyone, democrat or republican, who shares our goals of getting this economy moving, beating this virus and helping american families, and i think our people in the republican party who share those goals and we're going to try to work with them. >> nbc's mike memoli is at the white house, garrett haake on capitol hill, jake sherman and anna palmer, cofounders of punchbowl news are here with us too. a lot of outreach and a lot of
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phone calls. any republicans answering on the other end of the line? >> of course, that's the big question, steph. we just saw president biden take off on marine one right behind me as he takes the show on the road, as they say. there's a two-track strategy going on from the white house here. the president on the road to southeast virginia today focusing on childcare and community college, key parts of that american family plan. later heading to louisiana, the deep red state, as he focuses on the traditional infrastructure of the american jobs plan. yes, for all of the public pressure they're trying to build on lawmakers, a furious round of phone calls, in-person meetings happening with senior staff, with the jobs cabinet as well as the president himself. we heard at the risk of the bipartisan horn some positive signs both from the president and from west virginia senator shelley moore capito, the republican who's also like her democratic colleague in the state. a key towards any bipartisan breakthrough. we're also hearing white house officials increasingly talk about their openness to breaking
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up these two large multi trillion plans into small pieces if it means getting support from republicans. ultimately we've seen from this white house, we've certainly seen from democrats on capitol hill, a willingness to hear them out butz not necessarily endlessly but even if they need to pull that trigger to go through a reconciliation process to pass, they still need to do so. and they have a good policy and that's good politic that's will back them up in this process as well. >> i don't know, michael, that beeping behind you, i thought that might have been your own personal bipartisan horn. but you know i have that thing copyrighted here in new york. garrett haake, what are you seeing on your side? >> look, congressional republicans, at least a plurty of them, want to see a deal on infrastructure. they agree this is a useful effort by government to take part in and agree it will cost money. but there's no agreement where that money can come from yet. infrastructure is probably the biggest gulf between democrats
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and republicans, beyond the general price tag. does that money come from things like user fees. we're talking about tolls and some way for electronic vehicles to contribute since they're not paying a gas task or does it come from raising taxes on corporations like the biden administration would like to do. on the family's plan, the human infrastructure part of this, that's where you see a much wider gulf between democrats and republicans. republicans fundamentally don't think that things like the expanded pre-k or free community college is something government should be doing right now or perhaps ever, depending on the republican. so for the biden administration to focus their bipartisanship efforts on the infrastructure plan makes the most sense. they have a willing partner there. as we get perhaps later into the summer and focus shifts to doing more of the family's plan, that's the kind of thing democrats will have to try to make sure their house is in order because if they want it, they're probably going to have to do it alone. >> let's talk about what could get trimmed back here. as mentioned these could get
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trims, broken up. what could that look like? >> i think when you talk and hear garrett talking about had hard infrastructure plan, republicans are supportive of it but they also want it to be much smaller than what democrats have put forward. i think when it comes to some of the other issue, whether it's paid family leave, i think that will be very, very difficult to find any real traction among republicans to put this together in some kind of infrastructure package. right now what you're seeing is shelley moore capito going down to find a deal on this hard infrastructure package. whether or not that can come to fruition i think is a real question and real test for both the biden administration and for republicans because at this point, i think a lot of democrats want to know are these serious negotiators, serious about coming together to find an actual agreement or will this be window dressing for that to ultimately say, nope, we can't support it. >> to that point, jake, are you optimistic some republicans
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could sign on to this? >> no, not at all. because the biden administration, and i see every laughing and they all know me and know i'm skeptical about these things. steph, the problem is this, the biden administration sees raising the corporate pax rate not as a pay for but policy priority, something that needs to be done. republicans have been pretty official they don't want to do that. they don't think it's proper to break up and to undo the tax bill that many of them see as their big legislative achievement in 2017 whether they controlled all three houses -- all three, presidency, white house and senate. i'm really skeptical at the end of the day, one or two may be interested in that. i don't think they're going to get five to ten republicans who are willing to back some of these tax increases. furthermore, just one more point here, the size is a major issue. we can't understate that. the hard infrastructure the
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biden administration wants is $900 billion. republicans are atz $400 or $500. i understand it seems hopeful but i'm skeptical at the end of the day. >> we just got word the president will be meeting with brian dienst and susan wright, the national economic adviser, later today. and it was trump's former economic adviser gary cohn who said that corporate tax cut is bigger than it needed to be. it didn't need to go to 21%. it could have went to 25%. when former president trump cut it to 21%, most people were surprised. this used to be in the high 30s. we saw fascinating developments this weekend starting for a reception for mitt romney, lifetime republican, at the gop utah convention. let's watch this.
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>> you know me as a person who says what he thinks and i don't hide the fact i wasn't a fan of our last president's character issues. and i'm also no fan -- [ booing ] >> aren't you embarrassed? >> who are we kidding talking about bipartisanship? that man is a public nominee for president in 2012 and his own home state was booing him. >> yeah, i mean, he's an example of how the republican party has shifted over time. there's nothing probably more dramatic than seeing the booing of mitt romney, once the party standard bearer for republicans, and now can't even go home t will play time and time again across the country where you have the real base of the republican party in a very different place than observe
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oftentimes some members of congress. mitt romney isn't up for re-election this cycle and he wants and chooses to speak his mind. but clearly the republicans who are active in utah are is not having it right now. >> and it wasn't just romney. we saw republicans going after liz cheney because she's out of sync with the republican party, a party where the majority still believes joe biden did not win fair and square and where loyalty to trump is still seen as the number one goal. given that, is even the thought of bipartisanship a joke? republicans aren't going to sign on to anything if the majority of their party doesn't think joe biden's the president, as absurd as that is. >> i agree with you. i agree. the climate in the republican party right now is not one of cooperation. i saw over the weekend someone suggest -- i think susan collins suggested we're not republicans, meaning they're not a party of one person. they are at this point. the litmus test to the
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republican party at the moment both on the congressional level, statewide level, national level, is donald trump. whether you like that or not is a republican issue. but you're not going anywhere if you're not completely loyal to the president. and i imagine liz cheney will be challenged for her leadership slot again and probably be or could be ousted. who know what's could happen. >> i know we're out of time but, quickly, some of the poorest states in this country are deep, red states. they desperately need better schools, better health care, better roads, bridges, wi-fi. don't they care about infrastructure? >> sure, but to ask them to -- to ask people to focus on policy and focus on legislative proposals is a really tall ask. there's a lot of things that are hugely popular across the country, immigration reform, cutting down national dealt that never get done. i think that's the reality of politics and i'm not sure how to change that, but that's the reality of politics.
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>> if you didn't have wi-fi where you lived, if you didn't have roads or bridges where you worked, i think that would be more important than politics. thank you all so much. you have a busy few weeks ahead. we have to turn now to the fight against the coronavirus. the numbers show the u.s. is clearly on the right track with vaccine numbers up and cases numbers down. here are the facts we know at this hour. as of right now, more than 100 million americans are fully vaccinated. over 30% of u.s. adults. case numbers are also down sharply. the seven-day average dropping below 50,000 for the first time since october. in new york, 80,000 city employees are headed back to the office this morning for the first time in more than a year. in los angeles, a stunning milestone, no covid deaths reported in los angeles county on sunday. infection levels are at the lowest level since the start of the pandemic. nbc's jake gord is in san francisco with the health policy
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director from the obama white house and now nbc news political contributor. maybe us smarter. what's happening in san fran? >> san francisco at one point was staring down the barrel of a terrible year. we spoke to the head of the department of health here and he was very pessimistic. now listen to what he has to say about where we are. >> i'm more hopeful than i've been for over a year. our hospitalization rates reached a new low yesterday with 16 people in the city with covid-19. we'd like to get that to zero and we're going to get that to zero by getting more vaccine in the arms. >> steph, looking across this state of nearly 40 million people, one of the reasons numbers seem to be so low and there are so many people getting vaccinated here is the hesitancy rate as measured is so low,
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we're looking at 11% hesitancy rate and that's very incredible. that's why a city like san francisco at this point has at least one dose of that vaccine in at least 70% of residents here. that is a big milestone, and i think a really happy piece of news going into the summer, steph. >> that is very good news. dr. patel, how do you see the return to normal happening? clearly some places are going to be different than others. does it need to be state by state and not federal? >> yes, stephanie, it's best exactly the question we're all trying to wrestle with. and i wish it were state and federal in cooperation but we've already seen the cdc has been pretty conservative, stephanie, just releasing the outdoor mask requirement while states, half of them, already moved ahead to move outdoor and some indoor mask requirements. i think where people are coming back to work is going to be one
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of the most critical conditions because largely employers, especially city and state employees, had been left to their local guidance. i think everybody, even if you're vaccinated, is concerned how do i need to wear a mask? when do i need to wear a mask? do i need to get tested? how often? and i feel like that's part of where the federal government needs to give clearer direction to the support of businesses. and they know their communities well. we need better technical assistance so if you're coming back to the workplace, stephanie, you feel safe. if you go home to children unvaccinated, you still feel safe. that's going to be a big part of opening the economy back up. >> dr. patel, "the new york times" is reporting herd immunity might not be an option because so many people are refusing to get the vaccine. at this point do we need herd immunity? if they don't want to get the vaccine, that's their own problem? >> yes, unfortunately, the only way we're going to get out of
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this pandemic not just nationally but globally, is to get the herd immunity. we talk a lot about herd immunity. let's just talk about what that is. it's not just people getting immunized but people immunized from natural infection and there's not a total 100% overlap. we probably have people who don't want the vaccine who are at risk of getting infected in the past, but that immunity doesn't last very long however. we want to encourage everyone to get immunized, i want to be clear. we will also see more restrictions on what you can do if you're not immunized. i do fully predict, we're starting to see government regulations around nursing home workers and requiring reporting for vaccination rates amongst health care workers, which i think is appropriate. that will only extend into other business activities, concerts, movies. people will want to be in a place where they know the majority of people are immunized. but i think it will take a little longer but i do think we're get there. >> dr. kavita patel, jacob ward, thank you so much. we will leave it there.
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still ahead this hour -- democrats are trying to hold on to every possible vote to get the president's agenda passed. why and how he pays for this agenda is key to keeping all of those votes. but first, we're going to go to elizabeth city, north carolina, where family and friends will remember andrew brown jr. today. one of the speakers at the funeral, bridget william barber, will join us live. e. the bowls are back. applebee's irresist-a-bowls all just $8.99. to celebrate salonpas day and our mission to improve people's lives through topical pain relief we invite you to try our
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this morning we're watching north carolina where the funeral for andrew brown jr. will be held later today in elizabeth city. he was shot and killed by sheriff's deputies almost two weeks ago as they were attempting to serve him with a search and arrest warrant related to a felony drug arrest charge. there's peaceful protests over his death, with demonstrators still calling for bodycam video to be released after the judge declined to. sam brock is outside the church where the funeral will happen. sam, what can we expect today? >> stephanie, good morning, good to be with you. in less than three hours the funeral for andrew brown jr. will be at the church just over my shoulder. it is invitation only but this is an event that will be streamed to the public. the reverent al sharpton will be delivering the eulogy, sadly something he's been doing several times in recent months. we expect civil rights attorney benjamin crump to be speaking as well as some family. and i have to tell you there is
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a message of grief and anger and consternation because we're in a vacuum of information here in elizabeth city. it's well documented the bodycam video not released in full. a small snippet to the family members, which we're told from the court and judge they will be able to see a longer portion of that, but still redacted by the end of the week. the sheriff, d.a., nobody has held a press conference. everything that's come out have been prerecorded messages on facebook or statements. one warning people not to be violent and they were not violent. so you can see it's the lack of transparency out here driving them from elizabeth city to not only just community but all over the country. we spoke to one gentleman -- >> i think we just lost sam brock. so let's bring in someone who will be speaking there today at that funeral, bishop barber, the
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co-chair of the poor people's campaign. bishop, what a day this is going to be. you grew up just 50 miles from where he was killed. what do you want a national audience to understand about the issues you're dealing with? >> stephanie, we're in mourning. we're also in a movement. i'm going to be joining reverend al. the family asked both of us to speak. my father used to fight for these killings in the same eastern area of cops. this was a killing of a man shot in the back, a man, not a caricature, a man. a father of seven, a cousin, a nephew, a grandson, 42 years old, no drugs were found, no weapons were found. it's been 12 days, 288 hours and all the family has seen is a 20-second snippet. that is cruel and unusual
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punishment for this family. there must be accountability. we must know these tapes must be seen. a warrant, stephanie, is not a license to kill, even if the suspect supposedly drives away, and the supreme court said that, driving away is not necessarily legal. a warrant doesn't mean a person is guilty. a warrant is not permission to shoot somebody in the back with an assault rifle possibly and pistols. a warrant is not judgment. sentencing somebody to the death penalty. and we are seeing police, whoever they are, black, brown, white, men, women, if they engage in brutality, use excessive force and abuse their power given to them by the people and murder citizens, officers of the law must be held accountable, if the law is to mean anything for the rest of us, there must be truth, there must be transparency and when it shows there was murder and execution, there must be arrests, there must be
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prosecution, there must be imprisonment, there must be a federal review because what gives these officers the impunity, they rolled up on this brother, and go to the street and talk like we talk in the street, they rolled up on this one man with nine or ten officers, fully strapped, assault rifles and everything. like they were going to a s.w.a.t. team, tactical team. we know from articles -- i was reading one the other day from news one about eight cases of murder, people who murder people, mass murderers got arrest. they didn't get killed, some resisted but not killed, and they were all white. so this is serious not only for the city but whole nation that we're tired of it. but not the kind of tired that makes you quit. the kind of tired that says we laid him to rest today but we will not rest until this changes in this country. >> all right then. >> we also know here in north carolina, you know, they say they couldn't release the tape.
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the sheriff, the judge and d.a. are inept, incapable of incompetent for handling this. we want a special prosecutor. we want the bill passed in the state legislature that guarantees body cameras are automatically shown within 48 hours. we want the george floyd bill. some of us are now saying we mean when payment happens, it doesn't come from the insurance policy paid for by the taxpayers t. needs to come out of these pensions and out of these killers' money so it's actually hurt and felt. but we must stop this in america. it's happening too much. one life is too much. and this stuff doesn't have to happen. he had no gun, he no drugs, his hands were on the wheel, shot four times in the arm and one time the kill shot, was in the back of the head, right below -- right below the neck. >> mr. barber, accountability, you are demanding it, and you should. thank you so much for joining us and we will be watching the funeral later today here on
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msnbc. coming up -- democrats need every vote they can to pass through president biden's agenda. but with more people leaving high-tech states for low-tech states, the alarge bells this morning and danger of possibly going too big. air travel is back, car rentals up but a major shortage could change all of that. could change all of that without frequent heartburn waking her up. now, that dream... . ...is her reality. nexium 24hr stops acid before it starts, for all-day, all-night protection. can you imagine 24 hours without heartburn? at chewy you can shop america's #1 pet pharmacy anytime, anywhere. it's so simple you can order on a walk, at the beach, even over breakfast. and with fast, free delivery there's more time for the good stuff. shop america's #1 pet pharmacy. visit chewy.com today. >> tech: every customer has their own safelite story. shop america's #1 pet pharmacy. this couple was on a camping trip... ...when their windshield got a chip. they drove to safelite for a same-day repair. and with their insurance, it was no cost to them.
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reporting its highest number of single-day travelers since march 2020, with 1.6 million americans going to checkpoints yesterday. there are a number of other science travel is roaring back this summer, looking for campsites, airbnbs, and rental cars going up. let's go to cnbc's dom chu to bring us up to date. what are you watching for? >> there's no doubt many of us in the country are seeing the surge you mentioned in demand because of the improvement in covid infection rates and vaccinations. but there are other parts of the country who have seen steady return to normal in customer traffic and customer flow now so maybe a little more prepared since they've been dealing with more demand for a little while now. the issue will be in those parts of the country that are much used to seeing higher seasonal traffic for places like the summer and they've been in stricter lockdown situations already over the course of the pandemic.
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and it's the jobs picture that can be a big reason for those issues. there are already stories across the country about business owners, big and small, finding it harder to hire people to help ramp that back up to reach the surging demand. you mentioned increase travel numbers with people flying and booking more, here's a number for you. a car rental giant like avis budget, that stock in that company is at multiyear highs, way higher than it was pre-pandemic, given all of the optimism over surging demand and pricing power for rental cars. many viewers and listeners, stephanie, already nor looking at travel bookings, it costs a lot more than it did earlier this year. >> people renting u-hauls because they can't find cars. and there's another shortage. kerry sanders has this story. watch this. >> good morning, stephanie.
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more than half the pools in our country use notes like these, and these chlorine tablets, and that's another problem. they not only kill algae but prevent harmful bacteria. pool companies say this summer can turn out to be a major belly flop for eager swimmers and homeowners. >> it means we're going to run out of one of the most important thing we're putting into swimming pools to keep them healthy and safe. >> reporter: without enough chlorine, pool water can turn murky and potentially become a source of disease. for the first time in 34 years, pool company owner alan curtis said he's stocking up for his clients in advance. >> why it's okay now, i think we'll have a struggle this summer. >> reporter: part of the problem, a chemical fire shut down one of the largest domestic producers of chlorine tablets. it happened just as demand shot up during the pandemic. prices of the precious chlorine
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tablets have already doubled in some areas and could soar up to 70% this summer. texas homeowner aaron hamilton said building a pool last summer during the pandemic saved the summer for his kids. >> you know, through covid, they were able to actually even have friends out and swim in the pool too, which was a big game changer for us. >> if necessary he's prepared to convert to a saltwater system but hopes to avoid the expense. >> i bought most of my supplies about three months ago to get me through the season. i'm about to go buy again, which i found was a challenge. >> reporter: in order to make the chlorine last longer, experts say shower before swimming, run systems longer to keep water circulating, maybe even up to 24 hours a day and keep pets out. each time rover swims, it can add the same amount of dirt as 50 people. stephanie, if you can't find the chlorine tablets, there are some expensive alternatives. you can install an ultraviolet
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or saltwater system. but, again, that's expensive. s there are mineral options to using chlorine. belt to consult with your local pool supplier to see what to do. in case you're wondering, water temperature, 80 degrees. >> i will go with shower before swimming whether or not there's a chlorine shortage. it's not just chlorine shortages. talk to us about other shortages we're facing now. >> it's not, stephanie, for sure. kerry sanders just highlights it, this is a supply chain issue that's facing so many businesses that's not just going to increase their cost but will ultimately as he points out, be passed on to the consumers like you and i as well. there are a variety of costs on the rise for a variety of reasons. we mentioned the cost of traveling but costs for computer chips, plastics, are due to a
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shortage of supply and that's because of things like factory outages, as mentioned, limited manufacturing capacity due to covid, maybe transportation bottlenecks, other factors. stephanie, more and more companies are already warning their investors and customers higher prices are coming down the line. the issue is how long it lasts, and how long before these bottlenecks really get freed up? maybe it's one season, maybe it's more down the line, but companies are trying to respond to that certainly these days. >> we will be all over it, dom chu. thank you. turning to the biden administration this morning, this morning the biden administration said it will negotiate at least on the infrastructure bill but this is complicated, even among democrats, because different states have different priorities. the latest census showed more people are leaving high-tech states for low-tax states. and these same states are considered business unfriendly and losing businesses and taxes that go with them. why many lawmakers are excited
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about biden's agenda, they're also worried about how to pay for it. they're urging the administration not to raise taxes on families and instead pay for the proposal by closing tax loopholes and go after all of the tax cheats who don't pay what they should, including the tax gap, the $1 trillion a year difference between taxes legally owed and taxes actually paid. i want to bring in two of those lawmakers, members of the newly formed s.a.l.t. caucus, new jersey congress mn josh gottheimer and new york congressman john swazi. congressman gottheimer, explain the s.a.l.t. caucus. why should people care? >> there are 33 of us in states like mine and tom's that unfortunately after the 2017 tax hike bill hit us and they really tapped out that s.a.l.t. production to $10,000. on average here in jersey, families of mine and this district, taxes went up, not down. i'm just not talking about the well to do, i'm talking about hard-working middle class families, competent teacher,
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stephanie, would pay about $17,000 on average on total local and state taxes in new jersey. their taxes actually went up. all we're fighting for here is making sure we get tax relief by reinstating the state and local tax deduction, which is key. a third of the people in new jersey would get tax relief and a huge swath of them are actually -- 80% of them make less than $216,000, stephanie. this is critical to families here and their affordability. >> to both of you, congressman swazi first, if the president doesn't address this issue, are you willing to play ball on the infrastructure plan? he needs your vote. >> the bottom line is we love the president's plan to do things big and bold and build back better and make the country better than it ever had been before, but no s.a.l.t., no deal. you have to negotiate on the s.a.l.t. issue and get back the deduction. >> no s.a.l.t., no deal. how about you, congressman gottheimer? >> i agree, no s.a.l.t., no deal. if you're going to hit our
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families here in jersey and change the tax code, i have said no s.a.l.t., no dice too. tom and i working together on this, stephanie. and some people don't realize and something tom and i are very concerned about, when people leave our states, united van lines is the number one immigration out of the state in recent years, people who leave and take tax revenue with them, it creates huge erosion and the result is it affects all of the social programs and schools and things that are so critical in states like ours. as you know states like new jersey and new york do a very good job of providing for hard-pressed families. you look at alabama, where they pay an average of $550 a year in property taxes. those programs aren't there. we take care of folks in our state. but the key is actually keeping them here. >> congressman swazi, democrats have a very thin margin in terms of the minority. you need every vote to maintain it. you have multiple swing state democrats retiring. how do you stand behind the president's agenda without
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losing crucial votes? one of the problems we face, we live in a world of short-termism. even though so much of the agenda items are crucial in the long-term improvement of this country, our education, childcare, the list goes on, but ntz world of short-termism, people care about what they have to pay today. how do you balance the two? >> that's part of governing. that's part of public service and that's part of politics. we need to educate our colleagues about the importance of the s.a.l.t. deduction. we need to educate people about the importance of infrastructure. we need to educate people about the importance of childcare. this is what the process of governing is about. not everybody has a fully formed opinion on every single issue. we need to be constantly working with coalitions. that's why the s.a.l.t. is bipartisan and growing all the time. we have 108 co-sponsors on our bill to restore s.a.l.t. deductions. we have to work with people.
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there are big differences, a family that makes $150,000 in new york or new jersey is very different from a family that makes $150,000 in north dakota or oklahoma. we have to educate people about the differences in our country and come together to make things better. >> josh, beyond s.a.l.t. and your colleagues, talk to your voters. how do you convince your voters these investments are better for the long-term prosperity of this country. it's hard to convince people of that, especially when it doesn't matter what political party you're with, they don't feel great about government? >> when it comes, stephanie, as you know they drive around here. we have the new jersey transit, number one worst on time and most expensive. we need that tunnel between new york and new jersey built because we need more trains in and out. we need to fix our bridges. i hear that all of the time from people here i represent, they want us to fix things.
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they just want us to do it responsibly and that's the key. they want to make sure that doesn't cost them more, they're ready for the huge crush, worried about their jobs. it's up to us to explain to them. that's why democrats and republicans are coming together around this issue to make things more affordable but make them better and do so responsibly. and that's what we're fighting for right now. there's a lot of negotiation to go on between now and then, stephanie. we have not seen the legislative text yet. but i will tell you s.a.l.t. will be the top priority we're fighting for as part of this legislation. >> the clock is ticking and we need better infrastructure. thank you both for joining. still ahead -- a boat breaks apart after capsizing near san diego. the frantic search through wreckage and why the captain is in custody this morning. i've been married to my high school sweetheart for 35 years. i'm a mother of four-- always busy. i was starting to feel a little foggy. just didn't feel like things were as sharp as i knew they once were. i heard about prevagen and then i started taking it about two years now.
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critical condition and no one on board has been identified. we have the latest on the ground. what do we know about this thing? >> stephanie, good morning. we now know because the medical examiner in san diego did release some information, we know two of the deceased were women and one a male. those are the only details we know of the deceased. also the boat crashed into a reef yesterday morning right outside san diego bay. from eyewitness accounts, we know the boat was stopped in that area before it eventually crashed into the reef and broke into pieces. this area of the water, just like i said outside of san diego bay, is pretty dangerous to be swimming in. there's a lot of rip currents. it's just not a friendly part of the watt ert to be in. that's why it could have been very difficult for some of these people to get to safety after the boat crashed. also during the press conference yesterday, authorities did say some of them were able to swim
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face bad outcomes once troops leave. richard, what's it like on the ground there? >> there is a lot of ang gity. some people are leaving. some are moving their money out. contractors that worked with the u.s. military are packing up and seeing their country possibly decent into a civil war. the united states said it was leaving. this deal was signed by president trump. he said that all u.s. troops will be out of here by may 1st. president biden extended that deadline and said that all troops would be out by september 11th. there s a real concern that it could crash into the civil war and the taliban feels that they
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were able to push out the united states could return to power and that would be disastrous for many afghans, particularly for women. >> the new afghanistan is on full display. girls and boys together in the same school. for the last 20 years under american production. the taliban banned education for girls and women. now that american troops are leaving, the taliban may return and put a stop to this in the name of islam. one of the schools top students wants to be a gynecologist and treat women and girls for free. they work on reading comprehension in english. >> what do you think american troops leaving will mean for you. >> if americans goes i think
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fighting between the taliban and the government will happen. the taliban don't understand. a few decades ago, the talibans ruled. women were ordered to stay home and cover up with berkas if they had to go out. now u.s. troops are leaving and the withdrawal could mean the days are numbered for the taliban music institute. girls could be whipped just for this. 16-year-old mina is determined not to give in. she composed this work called dawn dedicated to the struggle of afghan women. >> i will never let anyone stop me or or other girls from
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playing music. >> here, they will try to resist the darker day that's are coming through will and music. >> with the arrival of trools here nearly 20 years ago saw women taking off their berkas, turning on the radio. the fight is still strong here, but in many areas the taliban is already operating quite openly. >> a challenging road ahead, richard engel, thank you for this important reporting. stay safe where you are. thank you at home for watching. that wraps up a very busy hour, hallie jackson will pick up breaking news coverage next at president biden arrives in virginia. n arrives in virginia our hands or feet?
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scrambling to get on. and why may is shaping up to be a break or a make or break month to cut a deal. plus in the fight against covid new signs of recovery here in the u.s. but not in india. the u.s. sending more help while restricting tral. we're live at one airport with folks describing an exodus. why you could see the former president back this week. i'm joined by jeff bennet at the white house. he is not making just a public pitch, but also a private one behind closed doors this week. >> that's a great way to think about it. you have the public
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