happening across america right now. first, in one hour, the funeral for andrew brown, junior, is set to start in elizabeth city, north carolina. it's a city that never expected to be a chapter in this part of america's story. family and friends will gather to mourn his death. also, demanding transparency. in a few minutes i will talk to one of the attorneys to talk about when they may be able to see more than the 20 seconds of body camera video from brown's death they were initially allowed to watch. in the fight against covid-19, this is a headline no one wants to see. reefing herd immunity is unlikely in the united states, experts now believe. one biology telling "the new york times," quote, the virus is unlikely to go away. san francisco is bucking that trend. we are live in the bay area this morning to see what they are doing so well as the u.s. hits

yet another vaccination milestone. the president is on the road in virginia this hour, trying to sell the multi trillion dollar family and infrastructure plan to the american people. that is where we are going to start on this monday. vaughn hillyard is in virginia, ahead of the president's speech. garrett haake is on the hill following the latest on the negotiations on president biden's proposed american families and american jobs plans. vaughn, we will start with you there on the road. what can we expect to hear from president biden in a couple of hours? >> reporter: good morning. we are seeing president biden along with first lady jill biden at an elementary school down the road from here in virginia. this is his third stop after his joint address to congress last week. he made stops in georgia and philly.

making the sale to the american public for that two-part $4 trillion infrastructure plan. today's focus is honing in on the education investments. stopping at the elementary school where he is making his pitch for universal pre-k, investment of $200 billion for guaranteed pre-k education for all 3 and 4-year-olds. he will make his way over here to this community college just outside of norfolk, virginia, where he will make the pitch for free community college investment as well as an additional $1,400 increase in pell grants to student to free up expenses, potentially to go towards the likes of living costs. this is where the president, with the house and senate out in their home districts here this week, it's freeing him to make these pitches. he will be in louisiana later this week. it's almost just as much about making the sell on the front end as cementing his reasoning.

if democrats were to forego making the concessions about the necessity of the elements, including pre-k education and community college investment, if they were to forgo getting republican support. >> while you were reporting there, president biden and dr. jill biden just popped up there at that elementary school. here is a live look. this is a live look at the president and first lady, an educator herself, at yorktown elementary school. president biden appears to have a conversation now with either the teacher or one of the administrators at this elementary school. we apologize in advance because some -- the video is going in and out a little bit. this is a live picture. it looks like now that either the president asking about the -- for all of white house have small children in schools, these plexiglas dividers that have become, unfortunately, so

ubiquitous in our elementary, middle and high school all over this country. garrett, as we continue to watch the president and first lady tour this elementary school, let me bring you into the conversation. selling the plan to the american people is one thing. selling this plan to lawmakers there on capitol hill where you are, another thing entirely. we understand in the last hour, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell talked about these negotiations while he was in kentucky. what did we hear from senator mcconnell about all of this? >> reporter: craig, i think we should separate out the two plans here. the odds of any bipartisanship or deal on them both vary a little bit. on the infrastructure plan, i would say the odds are not great. on the family plan, the odds are really bad we might see bipartisanship, at least here on the senate side, trying to get the elements of the plan across the finish line. on infrastructure, there have been bipartisan negotiations

going on. those have been led by the senator from west virginia. that plan starts out at $600 billion. that's less than a third of what the biden administration wants on the infrastructure piece alone. a short time ago, in kentucky, the minority leader, mitch mcconnell, locked in that number at 600. he made the prospect of paying for it more complicated for the administration. listen to what he told reporters in kentucky. >> summing it up, we're happy to take a look at an infrastructure package that's what basically both sides agree is infrastructure. we're not willing to pay for it by undoing the 2017 tax bill. >> reporter: that 2017 tax bill includes the corporate tax cuts. the biden administration wants to increase the number, maybe up to 28%, maybe just a couple of percentage points, depending how high they want to go, how much they want to pay for. mcconnell said that's a

non-starter. without that, you have no common ground on how you would pay for even the elements of an infrastructure plan that the two parties agree on. on the families plan, the almosts vaughn was laying out like community college, pre-k investment, congressional republicans are saying, we don't want to do this at all. the prospect of bipartisanship, very low. >> garrett haake and vaughn hillyard. president biden and dr. jill biden in and elementary school classroom right now. we will keep our ears on that event. less than an hour from now, the funeral for andrew brown, junior, will start in elizabeth city, north carolina. you remember that deputies shot and killed brown in april while attempting to serve a warrant.

on wednesday, a judge declined release of the body camera shooting publically. we have seen peaceful protests there over the weekend. peaceful protests in the weeks since brown was shot. what do we expect to see in the service in the coming hour? >> reporter: craig, as we speak, family and friends are gathered at the waterfront park. that's where i'm told the hearse has just arrived. andrew brown, junior, brown's casket will be loaded on a horse-drawn carriage and will be brought here. we have seen peaceful protests over the past week plus. we expect to continue to see that theme here today. this is an invitation only event. we don't expect to see demonstrators here. it really is an opportunity for andrew brown, junior's, family,

his close friends to say final farewell today. we know that in addition to those family and friends, reverend al sharpton will be here delivering the eulogy. also, representatives from george floyd's family and eric garner's family will be here to stand in solidarity to this family as they process their grief. losing a loved one at the hands of police. as you mentioned, this service is playing out on the backdrop of those protests of those calls for justice, calls for more transparency and, of course, calls for the public release of that bodycam footage. i expect we will hear some of those themes here today. really, while this family sort of grieves and says their good-byes today, the story is far from over. i think we are going to continue to hear those calls. the family was able to view the

20-second clip. of course, a judge ruling last week that that video will not be made public for at least another 30 days. it's far from over here for this family and this community. >> thank you. i want to bring in wayne kindle. he is an attorney for the family of andrew brown, junior. first of all, as we get ready for the memorial service here, how is that family doing this morning as they prepare to lay andrew to rest? >> craig, thank you for having me. the family is doing as well as could be expected under the circumstances. any time someone is killed in a violent, sudden manner as was the case with andrew brown, the family is understandably emotional and distraught. >> what do you hope people hear about him today at the service? >> i hope they hear what i have

heard, and what i have heard is that andrew brown was a loving family oriented person. he cared dearly for his children. he cared dearly for his extended family. he has several aunts that still live here in the greater elizabeth city area. he visited with them regularly. he took care of his children. i think he was a family man. he was much admired by his family. he was a jokester and loved to laugh and have fun. >> this body camera footage, as we have been talking about it, remains a key issue. the judge deciding not to release it to the public immediately. he is allowing the brown family to view more of it, as we understand, in the coming days. any indication when that might happen, when they might be able to see more of the video and precisely how much of the video they are going to be allowed to see? >> we are hopeful that we will

be able to see that video sometime this week. the judge did rule that they had to show it within ten days of last wednesday. we have seen no written order as of yet. we are hopeful that that will ham very soon. we are hopeful that they will be able to see all five video as was revealed in a hearing last week. they have four body-worn camera videos and one dash cam video. we hope that once that information is made available, once those recording are made available, we will have a fuller picture of what actually happened on the 21st of april. >> as you know, the district attorney is pushing back on this narrative that brown posed no threat when deputies shot him. they are accusing brown of hitting deputies with his vehicle before they opened fire. since the body camera footage has not been released publically, we can't verify

that. what say you to that, that assertion from the d.a.? >> first of all, i think this particular district attorney should recuse himself. he is currently running for judge here in this county. i think it's inappropriate for a person who has had a personal relationship with the officer involved in this shooting to be the investigator of whether or not they should be charged with a crime in this situation, particularly when he is in the heat of a political campaign. he worked with these particular individuals repeatedly, necessarily because they are sheriff's deputies in the county. the governor called for an independent prosecutor. we are calling for an independent prosecutor. we cannot determine whether or not his version of the events, as he recounted them last week in a hearing, is valid versus what our representatives saw on

the video. that's all the more reason the video should be released so that it can be independently examined by everyone, the media, the family and everybody else that's interested. >> is the legal team going to petition the judge to compel the district attorney to recuse himself? >> we are in the process of evaluating all of the facts. we don't know all of the facts yet. we have done some preliminary investigation into the parties involved. we're not taking that off the table. >> we learned last week that the fbi has also opened a civil rights investigation into this shooting. how much confidence do you have that this particular investigation, the federal investigation is going to produce meaningful results? >> well, if recent past history is any judge, we should be happy

that the federal authorities are taking a look at this situation given what they have recently done in the arbery case to charge them with civil rights violations and we heard they are considering doing in the case in minnesota with george floyd. we think that the justice department, under the guidance of merrick garland, is taking a more proactive role in these investigations. we are hopeful that the feds will take a deep, thorough look at what happened here and render the appropriate decision. >> we have to leave it there. thank you. please do pass along our regards to the family as well. appreciate your time. >> will do. thank you for having me. quote, a manageable threat. the combination of factors that has experts warning, do not expect covid to make a full exit. we will look at the vaccine

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this morning, the united states reached a new vaccination record. 40% of all adults in this

country are now fully vaccinated. that's according to the cdc. that means two out of every five adults protected from the virus right now. got my second shot today as well. here are the latest facts. at midnight tonight, the biden administration will restrict travel between the united states and india. india has seen more than 1 million covid cases in just the last three days. that's according to johns hopkins university. back here in new york city, 80,000 municipal workers set to return to their offices today. for the vast majority of workers, it's the first time back in the office in more than a year. out west, in los angeles county, there were zero reported covid deaths on sunday. this is a major milestone for a county that had seen more than 22,000 covid deaths since march 2020. five hours north of l.a., san

francisco seeing signs that it may soon reach herd immunity. 70% of san francisco residents -- 70% have gotten at least their first vaccine dose. for the most vulnerable populations, that number is up to 86%. nbc's jake ward joins us from san francisco's downtown waterfront. they seem to be doing something right there in the bay area. what are you hearing from folks there about this rate of vaccinations? >> reporter: craig, it's amazing to be standing here on this beautiful monday morning watching people come in off of the ferries, commuting to work. when i think back to the dark early days of this pandemic, the dark emotions we felt at that time, to be standing here with as you said 70% of san francisco residents having received at least one dose, it is extraordinary to be here. we talked to the director of health for the city ant county of san francisco to ask about

what logistics made this possible. here is part of what he said. >> i think from what we have learned is giving people options. these low barrier options, meeting people where they are and ensuring that community is guiding and leading the vaccine efforts is key. that's what we have seen in san francisco. >> reporter: craig, there are many things that are working in san francisco's favor. let's keep it in context. this is a city of less than a million people. getting it out to 70% is a much smaller challenge than it would be in a bigger city. it's a neighborhood by neighborhood kind of place. you can put volunteers out in the streets, knocking door to door, have a quick impact. beyond that, i think there's something psychological going on here. the cdc has been doing surveys of vaccine hesitancy. how hesitant people are about getting vaccinated. when you look at some states, the numbers are up in the 20s,

sometimes up toward 30% of people. here in the bay area, those numbers are single digits. san francisco where i'm standing, only 7% of people surveyed say they have any hesitancy at all about the vaccine. in california as a whole, a state of 40 million people, that number is 11%. you talk about how we're getting ahead, why it is we are enjoying the sunshine and being out and about on a monday like today, it seems to have to do a lot with our attitudes towards being vaccinated. >> fascinating. thank you so much. appreciate you. i want to turn to dr. madod. she's an infectious disease epidemiologist and senior director of the special pathogens program at new york city health and hospitals. thank you for your time this morning. i want to start with what we heard from jake and this idea of herd immunity. as you know, "the new york times" reporting today that there is widespread consensus

among scientists and public health experts that it is not possible for us to reach herd immunity. quote, instead, they are coming to the conclusion that rather than makin a long promised exit, the virus will most likely become a manageable threat that will continue to circulate in the united states for years to come. still causing hospitalizations and deaths, but in smaller numbers. doctor, as someone who studies the outbreaks of disease, is that true? >> it is true. if you look at covid-19, we know this is a virus we will learn to live with, just like we do with flu and many other infectious diseases. what we want to see with covid-19 and what we are seeing is a markedly decreased number of hospitalizations, severe cases, deaths and new cases. certainly, we are getting there. we don't need to reach herd

immunity to see a slow in the numbers of cases and hospitalizations and death. you can seeing in new england states. you see a dramatic decrease in the number of cases generally. i think that talking about herd immunity, there's been so much talk about it over the past year, i think it's a bit of confusion on what that would be between 70% to 90%. when we look at the number of individuals that are getting vaccinated, we want to increase that. but we are going to see a again decrease in the number of cases and community transmission. my number one worry is how can we decrease the threat and have less numbers of severe cases in the community? we are seeing that with vaccinations. >> friday, the cdc reporting 1.5 million vaccinations. that's down from 4.2 million a few weeks ago. now the demand appears to be slowing down, considerably in a lot of places. doctors shifting their efforts

to micro-target certain groups. pop-up clinics at gas stations and convenient stores and nightclubs. how critical is that, that these vaccine sites are meeting people where they are? >> it's very crucial. it should be part of the plan of trying to get as many people vaccinated as possible. when you look at vaccinations, you see people that can fall into a couple of groups. those that can't get vaccinated because of access issues. you want to have mobile vans. we see that new york city. i'm involved. you see a lot of these different resources like mobile vans going to communities, having sites at community locations to ensure that people have good access to it. then you have individuals that just want more information about the covid-19 vaccine. they are in a wait and watch approach. you want to build confidence addressing their concerns. you have the anti-vaccination movement. you want to continue to address

that category. >> cdc data is showing that nearly 183,000 vaccine doses have been wasted as of late march. cvs was responsible for nearly half of the wasted doses. walgreens responsible for 21% of the wasted doses. i read that and i thought, how can that be? >> i was fuming. i read the same thing this morning. i think there's more information to come out. i had read is that regarding the waste it was during the trump administration because of the poor rollout. this is an incident that's never happened. you should never waste vaccine, especially when you see -- look what happened in india where you have thousands of people dying every day, over 300,000 cases clocked in. we need to provide vaccines to the world, not just the united states. to see news headlines saying there's waste at that amount is unacceptable on all levels.

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we are following breaking news in california. right now, rescue crews are searching frantically for survivors after a suspected smuggling boat capsized off the coast of san diego. at least four people have been killed, 25 were hurt when that boat broke apart on sunday. it happened on a reef near point loma, just west of downtown san diego. what more can you tell us about what authorities believe was happening here with this boat? >> reporter: good morning. authorities informed -- border patrol informed they are investigating this as a human smuggling event. this happened just west of downtown san diego. a very dangerous area specifically where the boat capsized, very dangerous for anyone to swim in the water because of the rip currents and waves. a very difficult place for

someone not familiar to try to swim out of. we know some of the survivors were able to swim and then walked to a point where they received some help. the medical examiner's office in san diego did release some information. two of the victims were females, one in her 40s, the other in her 30s. a third victim is a male. that's the only information we know. the 25 survivors were taken to different hospitals in the san diego area. eight to nine hospitals received some of the individuals. for now, those are the details we have. we also know that during the last year, the number of apprehensions on the water has increased by more than 90%. illegal activity has increased tremendously. san diego being only about 30 miles north of the u.s./mexico border, is one of the routes that these boats take. a lot of the boats, they start south of the border. they go into open water and shoot straight up. a lot of the communities in the

san diego area north of downtown san diego have seen these boats that just shoot north in the ocean and then they will make a turn to end up on one of the beaches where a lot of these undocumented migrants often get off and go into vehicles. this is part of an operation that has been happening. more apprehensions and more boats caught on the water. last week, border patrol released some information of a different boat that had been stopped and some other migrants had been detained. like i said, a lot of illegal activity happening in the water here. this specific incident officially being investigated as a human smuggling event. >> a sad story on so many levels. thank you. right now, we are keeping a close eye on this news conference. it's happening in green bay, wisconsin. authorities there are giving an update on the deadly shooting inside a casino hotel. three people, including the

suspected gunman, were all killed. this is what officials said about the suspect just a few moments ago. >> we know that he was a former employee there. we know that he was familiar with at least some of the employees there. so that is part of what we're doing now, is to try to determine that motive to determine why he would do this. we know that this is not a random act or anything like that. we believe that it was targeted, at least to some of those individuals. >> a third victim remains in the hospital with serious injuries. a half hour from now, family and friends of andrew brown, junior, will gather for his funeral. we will talk about this community and the latest on police reform negotiations going on in congress. after more than 100 days in office, the biden administration

will start reuniting families separated at the border. in one case, a child who has been away from their parents for more than three years. this week, nbc is putting the spotlight on teachers, nurses and moms who have done incredible work during this pandemic. this morning, my colleague hoda kotb shared the story of donovan taylor hall. he says it's not just about helping kids navigate seventh grade, but their whole lives. >> catch ourselves when we say, i could never do that or i'm not good at that. >> when i watch you speak to them, it's like you take your heart out of your chest, you extend it in your hands and you say, will you hold that for me for a minute? >> kids are sacred. they are the most powerful people i know. i feel like they are so receptive to that. it feels like they are often not

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figure out what happened. >> i want to bring in jacob soboroff. he has been covering the challenges at the border. we talked about the challenges this administration faced with this process around this time on friday. now we have the first four mie migrant families set to be reunited. what do we know about them? >> reporter: we know we have been waiting so long. in some cases, over three years. we know that these families have been eagerly awaiting this news, which is no way else to cut it, is very, very good news. it's a start. it's a limited amount of families, but extraordinarily good news. they have been waiting a long time. there are 30 or so families who have have been ready to come back for reunification for many months. the lawyers that represent them wish this would have happened faster. the administration itself is holding this up as a success after you asked the president

last week why no families had yet to be reunited. what we know about these families, some come from honduras, some from mexico. all of them were subject to this policy that the secretary said he thought was cruel. >> what do we know about this administration's plans for the remaining separated families? >> reporter: over 1,000 families that remain separated, as you and i talk. that's something the task force head told us yesterday. they have to go through on a case by case basis to figure out what relief, how they get the families into the united states. so many have been deported. what relief they will get. where they will be reunited. ultimately, what services they -- they call them wraparound services they need because of the trauma suffered,

because specifically because of the trump administration family separation policy. >> jacob, thank you. we are hearing a new hint of optimist from the top republican working on police reform. tim scott is seeing progress as they relate to the george floyd justice in policing act. leigh ann caldwell on the hill covering this for us. where are we seeing movement here? >> reporter: well, craig, that's absolutely right. there is -- does seem to be movement. staff are continuing to talk after a meeting with the eight republicans and democrats who gathered last week where senator tim scott was on the sunday shows over the weekend saying that there is progress, that the dynamics seem to be different this time around. let's take a listen to what he said and we will talk about it on the other side. >> i think i bring an

equilibrium to the conversation. one of the reasons i'm hopeful is because in a way this time, my friends on the left aren't looking for the issue, they are looking for a solution. the things that i offered last year are more popular this year. that gives me reasons to be hopeful. >> reporter: senator scott is comparing to last year when his bill was blocked by democrats in the senate. of course, that was just months before an election. democrats are also telling me that republicans seem much more open to compromise and discussing these difficult issues as well. senator scott went on to say in that interview that there are three areas where there has been significant progress, including the areas of no knock warrants and chokeholds and giving military equipment to police officers. three of the five issues they are trying to negotiate on. that's also a signal that the two big issues still remain, that's qualified immunity and that section 242 which are the

civil and the criminal components of holding a police officer accountable for misconduct in the field. craig, these discussions are going on. they are continuing. people are telling me privately as well they that are cautiously optimistic they could find some sort of compromise. president biden says that he wants a deal before the anniversary of george floyd's death, which is later this month. craig? >> qualified immunity has been the sticking point for some time now. it's good to hear lawmakers are making some progress on those no knock warrants and chokeholds. keep us posted. it's a story we will follow closely this month. nasa has a new leader this morning. vice president kamala harris swearing in former florida is not bill nelson as nasa's new administrator. they had the backdrop for the

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the warning came through at 10:20 this morning that there was a tornado warning and later the national weather service was able to confirm that a tornado did touchdown on the ground. we are still waiting to get reports or understanding of just exactly what sort of damage was caused by the storm, but as you see right there, atlanta is a place where there are a lot of trees where when winds come through it's not unlikely and you see a number of trees blown down and that's certainly something that we can expect. to tell you a little bit about the area that where this tornado warning was called. this was a populated place in atlanta, we know that it was headed toward peach tree street headed toward midtown atlanta and those were the places where people were being told to take cover immediately and what we are waiting to see right now, craig, is just how much, if any, damage was done. >> blayne alexander for us there in atlanta.

thank you. we turn now to the funeral for andrew brown jr. it's set to start at the top of the hour in elizabeth city, north carolina. reverend al sharpton will deliver the eulogy there at the request of the family as things appear to be getting under way there. i want to bring in eddie glog, chairman of the african-american studies at princeton and msnbc contributor. eddie, you and i talked last week and you said something that stuck with me, quote, we are constantly having to navigate the spectacle of black death. this another public funeral, another public funeral reverend sharpton is going to be delivering the eulogy. what are you thinking in these moments as you head into another funeral? >> well, i'm worried about the family. of course, my prayers are with the family. they're going have to put a loved one to rest and then

they're going to have to deal with the consequences of the loss and they'll have to deal with the regret, the grief and part of what we often lose sight of, craig, in these foments and i'm thinking about the young ben cheney balling in his mother's waist and how that event affected his life. he ended up in prison for a period of time, and so we have to be mindful that it's not simply one body that we're putting in the grave, but a family that will have to deal with that death over time. there's this powerful headline in "the washington post," i'll read it for our listeners on satellite radio, the black residents of elizabeth city, north carolina thought violence happened in other places and then it came to their town and it included councilman gabriel atkins worried about the police,

is he going the right speed limit and the seat belt on. i'm worried to be the next one. it hurts to be a black man in this day and time, and again, here we are roughly a year away, a year out from george floyd's murder, and i think a lot of folks thought something tremendous had happened and changed in that moment and then you read headlines like that and you hear people like that, what do you think? >> well, you know, it combines with the reality of our times, craig. at the same time that we're having that experience or we're reading about this person's understanding of his life. we have 47 states trying to disenfranchise voters. in 2021 we're still fighting over the vote. you know, we have stephen miller making his arguments. it's almost as if the country is trying desperately to hold on to this idea that it must remain

right, at least portions of it. so there's this sense that here we go again, that we have to navigate this again, and it makes the utterance of tim scott who you mentioned in the segment that america's not racist. you judge that claim over and against these sorts of experience and you have to say something is not right here. something is not in alignment here. >> there is this dichotomy, though, in elizabeth city that the mayor, the manager and the police chief, all black and there is a historically black college and you have this confederate monument right next to the city hall named our heroes, what do you make of that? >> well, you know, james baldwin in his last book published in 1985 entitled "the evidence of things not seen" wanted to grapple with this question what happens when white supremacy

still obtains and black folks hold the reins of power. it is centered around the atlanta child murder, craig. all of these black babies dying with the black folks running the city, maynard jackson and the black police commissioner and the like. part of what we've come to understand is the way in which racism functions and organizes our lives isn't necessarily mitigated by the fact that black people hold the reins of power. so we have a lot of work to do, it seems to me, in order to understand what we need to do to move forward. >> we do appreciate your time. thank you, sir. that will do it for me this hour. "andrea mitchell reports" is next. "andrea mitchell reports" is next tide pods child-guard pack helps keep your laundry pacs in a safe place and your child safer. to close, twist until it clicks. tide pods child-guard packaging. mm. [ clicks tongue ]

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including an announcement by cuomo, the subway services will be resuming this month. signs of life heralded by the kentucky derby this weekend, the largest sporting event since the pandemic started. we see the exact opposite in india. new ground zero from the devastation from covid-19. we'll have a lot more on that coming up and the president's -- first, we're following breaking news in north carolina. the funeral services for andrew brown jr. beginning this hour in elizabeth city and that community celebrating his life while continuing to demand answers to why he was shot by police as protesters call for the full release of the body cam video. as you can see, as the procession heads toward the church, those are live pictures right now outside the church. reverend al sharpton, benjamin