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vaccine that similar to pfizer, the moderna vaccine, is also in the midst of its own clinical trial and young people. if that produces similar results that's reason to expect that they could follow pfizer pretty quickly and becoming a second vaccine approved for kids ages 12 and up. they're also promising trials underway right now for kids younger than age 12 so that part of the vaccination effort is all happening now. again, it feels like it's happening all at once but we've been able to see this clinical trial data and development and it's sort of live the predicate for what is about to happen now but in terms of fda acting on it stuff it's looks like it's gonna happen within that the next few days and that's really important. it comes amid these twin concerns that we have right now, right? if we are ever going to get ahead of the pandemic, if the rest of the world can't get vaccinated, global access to vaccines is the only way to

beat a global pandemic. so far it's only a very small handful of well off countries who are approaching saturation coverage in terms of vaccinating their own populations. we are one of the small handful of countries among the best in the world when it comes to how much of a population is already vaccinated, and how much vaccine supply we have. lots of experts are now concluding that, even our vaccines are too slow to beat this thing, systematically. we have been talking about this for a while, but we are starting to get a sense of sort of how the race is going. right? one side of the race is the number of unvaccinated people, that you've still got. the amount of vaccine, excuse, me the amount of virus that is circulating in the population, the amount of people getting newly infected, which means the ongoing replication -- population in spread of the virus into new hosts, which gives the virus more opportunity to mutate into more contagious dangerous variants. that is one side of

the race. what the virus is doing, how much of a toehold can get in our population. on the other side of the race is the vaccination. effort how fast can we vaccinate the most people? the virus can't find another host, another person to infect. another opportunity replicate and get more dangerous. that is the race. more and more public health experts are saying our vaccination effort, as good as it is, it's so far not able to outpace the virus. we're gonna be talking tonight with approve up men develop from the new york times, about her new reporting today on what she calls the emerging, quote, wide spread consensus against -- about experts that we're not gonna win that vaccination. the idea of herd immunity is not something we are going to obtain. interesting lee, there is reason to obtain that is not terrible news. the future in that covid world is potentially

a pretty livable, and understandable future. it is worth understanding if that is where we are heading. big news there in terms of kids potentially being vaccinated, it raises real big questions in terms of how much of our population we are vaccinating, and how quickly. particularly while the rest of the world is way far behind us, in terms of vaccination saturation into the population. really looking forward to that interview with -- from the new york times. big political news today, in terms of what's coming next from president biden in the democrats in congress. these last few days have really been bang up news for the administration, and for the country in economic numbers. we have it in for the first quarter of the year. the u.s. economy in the first quarter of 2021, it gordon annualized rate of 6. 4%, 6. 4% gdp growth? that's nuts. that is an insanely high number. look at this, in terms of individual u.

s. households. household income in march in the united states, we just got these numbers, it jumped by a record 21. 1% in the month of march. the government has been tracking monthly household income numbers since 1959. since they started tracking that number 1959, it has never had a higher jump than it did in march of this year. and of course, both of those numbers, the huge 6. 4 overall economic growth rate for the country, and the record drop, more than 20% jump in average income for american households, both of those figures are fueled by the same thing, right? both of those figures are fueled by the biden administration, and the democrats in congress doing stuff. passing legislation that has made a huge economic difference. both from the macro sense, and individual household

level. you could see the impact that it's had on the economy already, it's huge. and, that covid relief package they passed, the stimulus checks, the relief for small business, owners financial help to restaurants and funding for vaccines, and finding to safely open schools in the rest of it -- leicester noticed economic feature of the relief bill from covid is that it has tons of tax cuts in it for people making under $100,000 a year. as political has reported, quote, look at their headlined. not rich? good news, you are probably getting a tax cut. everybody knows that democrats want to raise taxes on the rich, but one hasn't gotten nearly as much notice is how much democrats have cut taxes for mostly everyone else. they've cut taxes for everyone else substantially more than republicans did in the first year of the 2017 tax overhaul. quote, new estimates by

congress whose official forecasters showed the democrats text cuts including an image covid relief package, will drive down tax rates on low and middle income people so much this year, that americans earning less than $75,000 a year, on average, will owe nothing this year in federal income taxes. it is the flip side to democrats campaign to raise taxes on wealthy, but is the flip side that is often overlooked. -- it plays against type, but this was a big honking tax cut for low and moderate income people. yeah. it is a sometimes overlooked fact, try completely overlooked. at least in the -- press. thanks to the tax policy factor says -- changes in the biden and democrats covid relief benefit, those people making less than $75,000 we'll pay no taxes. people earning more than $75,000 to $100,000 will earn -- pay 1. 8%. in federal income taxes. that will be on average if you make between 75,000 and $100,000 a

year. big, big tax cuts from the democrats for everyone making less than $100,000 a year. they have passed. already in effect. we have these macro numbers that show the economy is off to the races, and household income making the biggest jump since we started keeping records of it. yes. under covered in the beltway press, yes. i would say for. so far, zero republicans have voted for the legislation that has made this possible. what are republicans doing to try to turn people against would biden in the democrats are doing? well, this weekend, the republican later of the house kevin mccarthy posted this on facebook, toting the benefits of the covid relief bill, to folks at home in this california district. as if this

was something he had anything to do with. democratic house speaker nancy pelosi said in response, minority leader kevin mccarthy called the american rescue plan socialist, claimed it would turn the u.s. into venezuela, and convinced every member of his caucus to vote against it. pelosi's office said in a statement, referring to the larger legislation. he even warned the american people, help is not on the way. now he's toting the american rescue plan's restaurant revises chen fund to brag about bringing home the bacon. help is not on the way, except for this help that i want people in my district to know about and credit before. we covered this phenomenon a few days ago, all these republican members of congress, touting the benefits of the covid relief bill back home to the districts. as if they had something to do with, it when they all, every single one of them voted against. it now, it's the top guy, the republican leader in the house, kevin mccarthy, who put himself in charge of the covid relief bill. now he too is bragging about it at home. help us here. talking about all the good it will do back home in his

district and he didn't just -- really succeed in this efforts to stop it. then he wants credit. that's one way to do. it pretend you are for. it tried to take credit even though you not only voted against, you did everything you could to try and stop it. but as the biden in the situation, and the democrats tried to rip -- reap the political benefits from the popularity and the positive effects of the things -- they're also making -- plans to move under the next big stuff they are going to do for congress. namely the big infrastructure bill, and the american families plan that biden talked about in his state of the union last week. well, on that front, there were two big important developments over the last few days on that, that i think will sort of set the courts for how this is going to go. that should, i think, harden, and speed up democrats approach to both those pieces of legislation. again, both those pieces of legislation are as big as the covid relief bill. that could be expected to

have as big an effect on covid and household income, they would both be a huge, huge deal. a couple of things have happened that i think i've said the course for how these will go. first of all, you know how we had this amazing like too party split screen recently? on the one hand, on the left, we have had democrats passing a two trillion dollar covid relief bill that got widespread support from the american people, and that we now know strapped a rocket engine to the u.s. economy. on the other side of the screen, on the right, the republicans seem to have no idea what to say about that, or what to do about it. as proven by the fact that they all voted no against it, and now they are all taking credit for what was in it. what they did spend their time on this last few months, was just careening through this bizarre series amid out -- made up cartoon issues. mr. potato, had dr.

seuss, a ban on me. all these things that had nothing to do with biden or democrats, or were made up and had nothing to do with reality. that dynamic is underway already for the next legislation the democrats in the biden administration are pursuing. the infrastructure bill that will make child hair -- care more affordable and community college. those things are very popular. now we've had -- this time around. it turns out they are going to try this. >> to use of college, whether you like it or not. these are the things that take away choices from the american people. >> two years of college. whether you like it or not. wait a minute, white? this is the republican argument. joe

biden, yeah, the jerk, is going to force everybody to go to college whether they want to or not. it will be mandatory. what? no, president biden is not going to make you go to college. he's not gonna make anyone go to college, let alone everyone go to college could you imagine how that worked. you in the corner, you've been designated to get a masters degree. [laughs] the president picks you. you have no choice. how would that even work, senator? president biden is not banning meat. he is not going to force everyone to go to two years of college. senator blackburn's office later said that she misspoke on that. but,

come on. this is the character of the opposition, thus far to the infrastructure bill they will roll out, which the republicans say is socialism, and will turn us into venezuela. and the american families plan which is going to be forced college for everyone, even if you don't want it. that is the character of the opposition. okay, that is instructive, we will stick with that kind of thing. dr. seuss, got it. also instructive, i think, was this from senator mitch mcconnell. who is once again, flat out promising in advance that zero republican senators will vote for biden in the democrats next legislation, an infrastructure, on the american families plan. there will be you zero republicans voting for it. talk about something under covered by the public press. think about the implications of this. this ought to be the cause for like wall-to-wall political coverage for days on end.

instead, this is covering things like mcconnell said. meanwhile, we're stuck with this common wisdom in the beltway. all the commentary all still saying that biden still needs to find republican votes. he needs a big bipartisan show of hands, and supported what he's doing. he needs to meet with republicans and talking to them to find something that they like, so he can get republican votes. it is, flash there won't be any republican votes. he doesn't have to do any of those things. just put up that headline again. republicans are promising, they are saying out loud and ahead of time, that no matter what is in the bill, no matter how nicely anyone talks with that more to them, or about them, there will be zero republican votes for what joe biden wants to do. zero republican votes promised in advance. for infrastructure, the american families plan, zero, nine, no matter what. if that's being guaranteed in

advance by the republican leader, there really is no reason for democrats to waste time talking about republicans on something like this. they are pledged as a group, do unanimously vote no no matter what the legislation is. which is a convenient piece of advance warning that it is not worth talking to them about it. they have already pledged zero votes. good to know. now we can stop wasting time wondering what you will do, because you've told us in advance. it also means we don't need to stop spending time trying to persuade you. this is a blessing for the democrats. you will recall, this also happened with the covid relief plan, right? back before that passed, senator mitch mcconnell promised publicly, no matter what was in that bill, no matter what talks happen or didn't, no republicans would vote for the covid relief plan. democrats got the message. they didn't waste time. water it down. democrats with that promise in hand from mitch mcconnell, took him out his word.

they cited they would pass the bill, basically intact, and quickly. without letting republicans bog them down because they were all going to be no votes no matter what. now that mcconnell has made the same promise on infrastructure and the american families act, democrats are free to do the same. if there are no democrat votes from the republican leader, okay. votes by definition will be among democrats themselves, only. which could frankly be harry enough. it does mean they can ignore democrats entirely and move quickly. so -- we will see how this translates in days ahead and in the administration and in congress. but the lack of any reality based to -- critique from the republicans on this forthcoming legislation as well, the promise that they won't vote for anything, no matter what's in it, those are procedural blessings for the democrats. those are freeing for the

democrats in terms of how they proceed here and their ability in good conscience to preclude any involvement from republicans that were slow down and we can either of those legislative repose holes. they can move ahead with democrats on their own terms with just votes and clarity. president biden has announced he is drumming -- dropping the trump administration's draconian and missions in the country. even considering -- and refugee. president biden has he's dropping the trump administration draconian restrictions on allowing refugee admissions into the country. even considering applications for repartee -- rough eugene status in this country. since the first time taking office over 100 days ago, the biden administration is facilitating the reuniting of families that were forced apart at the border by the trump administration. as we and everybody else has covered this over the last few years, there are thousands of family this would stun too. kids taken away from the moms and dads forcibly by the u.s. government, by the trump administration at the southern border. soon after he

took office, president biden to get a high-level task force on reuniting these families. the task force says there are over 1000 families that remain separated, even now. more than 1000 families with kids have been taken away from the parents by force by the u.s. government. that's a huge task ahead to get them united. nbc's jake is sober off has been on the story from the very beginning. tonight he's conducted an interview with one of the kids from the for families who are now in the process of being reunited this week. the young man who jacobs spoke with, his name is brian. he is now 18 years old. he is from mexico. when he was 15 years old, three years ago, he was separated from his mother. according to jacob's reporting, bryan this mother will be reunited the first time this week. three years later. joining us now from riverside california is msnbc correspondent jaime sober off.

he's the author of separated. he's been on the story from the very beginning. thank you for being with us, jacob. i know this is been crazy in terms of your schedule getting this done and trying to stay ahead of this policy change. >> rachel, thanks for having me. thank you for highlighting the stories tonight. i would say, it is a bittersweet day. it is undeniably an extraordinary announcement that the first for families of over 1000 that are still separated, are going to be reunited. and the biden administration has facilitated this. there are so many children who have yet to go through wet brine will go through this week. he was gracious enough to meet up with me and share about how he's feeling in the lead up to this moment. it's a moment that has been over three years in the making. i want to share a little bit with everybody about what brian told me a few minutes ago. >> so many people have learned about what now people call the trump separation policy through the

news. so few people have gotten to hear firsthand what it was like from a now 18-year-old young man who experienced it firms self. what do you want people to know? well, it's just a really cruel experience, and i hope no one has to go through it. there are a lot of kids going through right now, but it's something you don't wish towards a minor to go through. >> there are 1000 people still in the same position as you. >> yes. >> when you think about that, what goes through your head? >> it's unbelievable that they let this happen to multiple kids and families to be separated from each other. it's something that shouldn't

happen, and something that's unbelievable. it sounds cool. >> rachel, i have to tell you about what i learned about brian from brian this evening. once he was separated, he went into high school in the united states and southern california. he graduated early. he did that because he wanted to get into the work force and become an are and. instead, with his life and career, he decided to go for working as a pro bono worker with immigration process. this is his first week on the job doing that. he is a remarkable young man. i'm grateful to him for sharing his story with us, especially ahead of such a momentous occasion. >> you are kidding me? he was 15 years old, taken away from his mom, separated from his mom, as a 15-year-old kid sent into

this country on his own, away from his mom. he hasn't seen her in three years. in the interim three years, he's graduated early from high school and now he's going to be working at a legal services organization? this is insane! >> that's right, he's just started his new colleagues love him very much. some of the same people he worked with in his own immigration proceedings. this is bittersweet. there's a smile on my face just getting to meet him, knowing when he's about to go through. just knowing through all of this, the way we talk about it, the politics of it, just sort of the public perception of it, this is so real to him. this is what he wanted to do with his life after going through an experience i don't think anybody could comprehend. >> jacob, you've been able to

--report around this reunifications the administration was able to facilitate this essentially by granting humanitarian rules to members of these family so they can go back together and be together in the country. essentially, these things were facilitated the reunions by nonprofit -- profit an advocate groups. including aol that of made this happen essentially with their own resources. they needed help from the administration to get it done in the end, but they have been the ones doing these arrangements, thus far. >> they have done such extraordinary work, not just them, but all of the steering committees so to speak that have been looking for separated families, parents have children who are not yet able to be located. still over 300 where they don't know the location of the parents of children. obviously, the bryant family is not in that category. they work day in and day out, the aclu, justice in motion, a

public law form, in order to track down and reunite, and binds cases about one in 30 that the lawyers have been trying to put in front of the federal government since the beginning of the biden administration. they are now taking action on. it brian's case is one of the first four cases, but as i said, these legal service providers have been doing over 1000 that's why it's so important to stress there's been so much work yet to be done on separation policy not just the reunification's themself. just one thing brian said to, me wraparound services, whether it's mental health, a restitution in some way, or even accountability for members of the trump administration that carry this policy out. there are a lot of unanswered questions from the biden administration which i know they're working very hard on. i

spoke with mayorkas yesterday along with reporters a michel bernier who's running the task force. brian is fortunate enough to be one of the first four during this administration to get back with his mother and family just this week. >> msnbc correspondent -- jacob soberoff. what a remarkable turn in this story all this time later. thank you for joining. us i'm looking forward to seeing the rest of the interview with brian. thanks.ths thanks rachel. again our lead story tonight with jacob sober off in the biden administration saying, the first handful for families separate where the child was separate from his or her parent, the first families went through the separation policy under the trump organization, excuse me, the trump organization, the first for families being reunited this week. that's expected to be the first four out of 1000 families that

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getting republican voters to cast their votes by mail. republican legislatures have again and again passed legislation in the past to make it easier to vote by mail because that is kind of the republican way of voting in florida. that's how they've been pushing republican voters to vote. you may have noticed that republicans have done really well in florida elections recently, a watch in mail ballot voter fraud we need all these to restrict devoting laws. lots of people mailed in ballots. lots of republicans mailed in ballots. republicans have done really well with mail-in voting. but apparently, as they were rushing this new voter suppression bill through the legislature, florida lawmakers have overlooked the fact that they might be suppressing the wrong votes. they might be suppressing the votes of their own supporters. amy gardner has a remarkable report in washington post today that as the bill was being debated in the florida legislature.

this is incredible, quote, some republicans privately expressed worry that it could further undercut the party's ability to encourage mail voting particularly among -- who overwhelmingly use that method to cast their ballots. one party official said that some republicans briefly discuss whether lawmakers could exempt those two groups, military voters and the elderly from the new mail voting real rolls. according to this republican official, quote, he lawmaker said, you can't do that it would raise equal protection problems. he added, quote, now the damage is done. now you'll have military personnel who might not think they have to request a ballot so they won't get it. and we've got senior voters who have health concerns we just don't want to go out. they might not know that the law has changed and they might not get a ballot because they're not engaged. republicans have accidentally passed a whole bunch of new restrictions on voting there on the right to the governor's desk that include the ways that republican voters most liked to

vote in florida and that the republican party itself has invested millions of dollars and decades in trying to encourage among their own voters. on the way towards passing this thing, they reportedly tried to exclude from the new law just the slivers of voters who are most likely to vote republican in florida using these methods that they're now restricting. the technical terms for this is oops. we've got more on what this might mean ahead. stay with us. ♪ ♪ ♪ hey google, turn up the heat. ♪ ♪ ♪

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most frequently and that the means of voting that the republican party has been actively promoting to their own voters for decades. in a report remarkable new report from the washington post, they report that along the way, republicans considered trying to exclude the most republican-leaning groups, the elderly and military voters, from these new voting restrictions that they nevertheless want to apply it to everyone else. joining us now is washington post national political reporter miss gardner. miss gardner, thank you for taking the time tonight. >> glad to be here, thanks rachel. >> what is the extent of the regrets among florida republicans as they realize that these voting restrictions by cut into something they worked for decades to build support for among their most loyal voters? >> it's pretty extensive. i mean, it's been 40 years in the making. republicans had their first huge ballot victory back in

1988 in a u.s. senate race where the democrat was ahead when everyone went to sleep on election night and the republican won two days later. and that's happened over and over again in florida and that's because of the incredible program that the republican party has built over those decades to teach elderly voters in particular, also military voters how easy it is to vote by mail and to keep coming back at them again and again and reminding them to do so. there's an amazing, i think, illustrative story that i wrote about this morning where a democratic consultant who was the guy who ran obama's campaign in 2008 in florida, where every time president trump tweeted last year about how crooked absentee or mail balloting is, he would get a text from a republican operative buddy sending him an eye roll emoji or special characters meaning swear words because he was so upset at the damage that president trump was

doing to this method of voting that was so important to the republican party. i don't think we know how it will affect things going forward because we have this extraordinary year where president trump was on the ballot and he is extraordinary as a candidate and where we had a pandemic which was of course extraordinary. but of things snap back to the mean we're more republicans vote by mail, then these new provisions in this law could curtail that party more. >> do they have options? i mean, short of convincing the governor to not sign the bill, trying to start over again to amend the bill to try to protect these forms of voting that they've promoted and that their voters like so much do they have any options or is this essentially baked and now they have to just figure out how they're going to live with the consequences? >> it's definitely baked. ron desantis went on fox news last week after the bill passed and said, quote on quote of course i'm going to sign the bill into law. i think that the passage of

this bill reflects the mindset that lots of republicans are in right now which is there under tremendous pressure to show their loyalty to president trump and to his belief that the election was stolen even though many of them privately believe that joe biden won the election fairly and so there is this huge pressure to pass these laws that in a lot of cases, both republicans and democrats described as a solution without a problem. you know, states like florida where even dissenters widely hailed the 2020 election as the gold standard for election administration in america. so i don't think there's regret about doing what they felt they had to do them by passing the bill. they felt they had to to place constituents, to place the audience, meaning president trump but i do think that going forward they are going to be strategies on how to make sure that they continue or increase the education for their voters on how to vote by mail and how to navigate these new rules. i think you're going to see a

lot of political consultants who do mail make a lot of money and the next couple of cycles because you're going to be sending a lot of mail to republican voters how to use these new laws. >> even in the case of a sort of political own goal like this, there will be ways that this will be turned into at least a moneymaking opportunity for the consultant class. amy gardner, political reporter thank you so much for great reporting on this great and colorful reporting on this and thanks for helping us understand it tonight. >> thank you. >> all right, we've got more ahead tonight stay with us. ith us ients know that? (naj) because as a fiduciary, it's our responsibility to always put clients first. (other money manager) so you do it because you have to? (naj) no, we do it because it's the right thing to do. we help clients enjoy a comfortable retirement. (other money manager) sounds like a big responsibility. (naj) one that we don't take lightly. it's why our fees are structured so we do better when our clients do better.

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summer, all right now, every single person 16 years or older does not have to wait in line. they can show up and get a vaccination. i plead everyone, get vaccinated now, please. >> president biden imports of virginia today filling in a reporter's question about herd immunity. herd immunity is one enough numbers of the community are vaccinated against the virus. the virus basically has nowhere to go. it stops spreading because of vaccines, that's how it goes away. the way you get to herd immunity is through vaccines. hi countries to vaccination campaign launched in december, and health officials have been asking how fast we need to vaccinate americans in order to reach herd immunity here. how many people need to get vaccinated? will we returned immunity?

right now, more than 145 million americans had at least one dose of the vaccine. 56% of the adult population here. vaccines for kids aged 12 and it may be approved as much -- early as next week. the rate of vaccinating is improving. 3 million doses a day, now the average is just over 2 million doses a day. then the new york times put up a nightmare of a headline today. quote, reaching herd immunity is unlikely in the u.s.. experts now believe. the headline is fairly crushing i have to admit. the ideas of this -- the vaccine -- herd immunity is not going to be reached, most likely.

the virus will most likely become a manageable threat that will continue to circulate the united states for years to come, still causing has -- hospitalization index that amos smaller number. how much smaller is uncertain independent part and how much of the nation in the world becomes vaccinated how the coronavirus evolves. joining us now is aprooya thank you for taking the time. >> thank you for having me. i know that reporters don't always read the stories that are on the new york website, did you know you would weren't -- ruin a lot of people's days? >> i was hoping people would read beyond the headline, to be honest.

we decided it is true there's a lot more subtlety, and what my editor felt, rightly, what is new here is that we're hearing for the first time we might not return immunity. what is the difference between herd immunity and the manageable level of vaccination in the country. >> that is just degrees of difference. herd immunity is a continuum. right now we might be at 60%, 60% immuned one way or another. we need to get to 85% for the herd immunity. it doesn't mean zero or 100. the more people we vaccinate the less hospitalizations and deaths we will see.

>> i was struck by one of the experts who spoke to in blunt terms. one we are hoping for hate amenity, it wasn't going to be that you got and raise the flag and it's over and never thought about it again, it was going to be something we had to keep an eye on in terms of a circulating virus. it is a virus that kills. our ability to fight off this virus will go with a race to fight away the mitigation. it will always be a push you pull contest. >> there was always going to be that. that was because we've never be 100% protected. if you think about something like measles, the u.s. actually has a huge number of people protected from that. we actually have appeared immunity for that as a nation. in new york, we have had

outbreaks in the orthodox jewish community with measles. this is life threats, there are a lot more people who can still get sick. those outbreaks will be bigger, they will still need hospitalizations and there will be deaths along the way. >> and t i know you're part of the reporting team at the new york post, and the fda is likely to approve pfizer you've said ages 12 to 15. it's approved for kids 16 and up. that process of being able to vaccinate younger teenagers and kids, presumably with a clinical trial that's underway right now. does that affect the math at all? the projection in terms of how much of the country will be immune, and how many communities will be subset about to the outbreaks you just described? >> i think we need as many kids as we can to get vaccinated. kids under 18 are about 22% of

the population. if we don't vaccinate kids, there is no chance in hell of getting herd immunity. even with all of them getting vaccinated, we will still probably not get there is what experts are saying. we are expecting the fda to approve this vaccine for kids aged 16 earlier this week. once those can get vaccinated, we will get results for younger kids. we need all those children to really get vaccinated to get closer to herd immunity. >> aproovya global health reporter. thank you for your time. the headline was scary, but the ideas behind it are nuanced, the task at hand is the same. the more americans get vaccinated, the quicker and better we will be. thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> we will be right back.

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with tonight that we're likely to have an fda approval as soon as the end of this week for kids aged 12 an up to get the pfizer vaccine in this country. that is big news. also tomorrow, the travel ban goes into effect between the u.s. and india. this is in the midst of india's just terrible overwhelming covid crisis right now. there is a travel ban between u.s. and india that will go into effect tomorrow. there's a lot of important news going on. we've just learned that president biden is due to speak on covid specifically tomorrow at 2:30 eastern so i think it's worth having your antenna out for that tomorrow, given all of the quickly developing news on that front. but we will see you again tomorrow night. and now it's time for the last word lawrence o'donnell. good evening lawrence. >> i am going to need your advice about something tonight. the way to handle a particular guest. it's patrick rodman keefe, he is the author of a brilliant new book about the opioid crisis called empire of pain. he has already done some press about it and he tweeted this, rachel, about one of his appearances on tv.