tv Ayman Mohyeldin Reports MSNBC May 4, 2021 12:00pm-1:00pm PDT
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>> i've got to tell you, it feels so good to walk outside without a mask. it feels great to sit down in a restaurant and not be too worried. my baby is still kicking like crazy. i'm excited to give her the antibodies that i'm going to get from the vaccine or that i've got friend the vaccine. it's great. go get vaccinated. dr. mario ramirez, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> that's going to do it for me today. if you're going outside, get vaccinated. again, you don't need to wear a mask. it feels amazing. text that number, walk into a pharmacy and get vaccinated right now. it's worth it. if you're staying in, ayman mohyeldin picks up our coverage right now. good afternoon, everyone. i'm ayman mohyeldin here in new york. president biden just wrapping up a speech in which he set a goal of getting 160 million americans. that is roughly half of the u.s. population fully vaccinated by july 4th. that is two months from today.
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the president talked about the progress and the challenges still ahead. >> the fact is that nearly 85% of seniors have had at least one vaccination shot. and the wide cross section of the nation trusts the vaccine regardless of race or ideology. now, we need to make the same progress for those under 65 years of age. there are a lot of younger people. especially those in their 20s and 30s who believe they don't need it. but i want to be absolutely clear, you do need to get vaccinated. >> this as nbc news has learned the biden administration is telling states any vaccine doses left unordered will be offered to other states. the u.s. has added another 1 million fully vaccinated americans from this time yesterday with a total of 105.5 million. while pfizer head albert bourla
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tells cnbc when a booster shot may be needed. >> we do expect the booster likely will be needed somewhere between 6 and 12 months. and this is based on all of the evidence that we've seen collectively and remains to be proven. also, political news on capitol hill where axios reports that house republican leader kevin mccarthy has been caught on a hot mic saying he expects his congress will vote to remove congresswoman liz cheney, amid her persistent criticism of former president trump's lies about the election. joining us, shannon pettypiece. dr. ashish aja of brown university. and shannon, i'll begin with you, the president set a goal of getting at least one dose of the vaccine to 70% of adults by independence day. how does the white house intend to achieve that goal, given what
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we're seeing play out in a decline of number of vaccinations being administered? >> well, so, to do this, they're going to need to give 100 million shots between now and july 4th. so, over the next 60 days. that is significantly slower pace than we have been seeing. of course, we have been seeing the vaccination rate slow down. so, those huge mass vaccination centers where you're turning out 1,000 shots a day. that's not what they need to do to get to this next goal. to get to this next goal, they say they're going to make it as easy and convenient as possible. give people incentives, the president mentioned having grocers offered discounts to people who get vaccinated. they talked about sending mobile clinics in hard-to-reach communities particularly rural communities. the president and administration said they're anticipating getting out to thousands of rural clinics.
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they're going to send $860 million to rural hospitals. because when you look at the map of vaccination rates, those rural hospitals stand out as having the lowest rate. the administration acknowledges this is a different phase and this is the plan to get to people where they are. of course an education campaign and driving home the repeated message for people to get vaccinated. that it's safe and will save your life and someone around them, ayman. >> dr. aja, to that point, i know there's reluctance to use the word "herd immunity" but will adults receiving the dose to herd immunity and a return to normal? >> let me start off by saying i know it doesn't sound like a lot 100 million doses in 60 days, and we've done better than that, because we have. this is a ground game. this is a different set of
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challenges, but if we get there and i actually think we can get there. it's going to make an enormous difference. it's essentially above the level at which we saw infection numbers just starting to plummet. so, if we can get to 70% of adults vaccinated by july 4th, we're going to have a terrific summer with very, very low levels of infection across the country. it's a tough goal but one worth striving for. >> from a public health perspective, dr. aja, what is it you that think we're getting wrong when it comes to herd immunity? >> we actually focus too much on herd immunity. it's not some magic number. it probably varies from community to community. it probably has gone up a little bit because it's more contagious. the question is first how do we protect people that are high risk. but how much immunity do we need in states, in communities to really drive infection numbers lower? and that's probably in the kind
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of, you know, 70%, 80% range. and that's what we saw with israel. when israel got to 65%, 70% of adults vaccinated, the numbers crashed. even if we don't hit herd immunity, we may still see outbreaks here and there. people will feel protected. life will be going back to normal. look, i'd love to get 90% of americans vaccinated. i'd love to get to a point that the virus is essentially gone from the society. that may not happen. what we're hearing is getting our economy back and protecting people. >> the president had this message for people who are hesitant to get the vaccine. younger people, specifically, talking about, you know, trying to incentivize them, you know, professional sports leagues and what have you, trying to get them -- if you go to a supermarket, you may get a discount. certainly, younger people themselves with travel this summer and their plans. talk to us about what he said on all of the fronts. why is there this hesitancy and
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what is being done to overcome it? >> yeah, there is a hesitancy when you add the number of millennials and zoomers, generation zers, saying they won't get the vaccine saying i'll take a wait and see attitude. it comes out to 40%. that's a huge hill to climb. the way they're approaching it, exactly what the president said which is you've got to get trusted voices out there to give them the facts but also where they live, which is social media. but i've talked to a number of young folks who said i'm not ready to get the vaccine. let me play for you what a 21 and 29-year-old said because they're kind of representative of what we heard from young folks. take a listen. >> the healthier population that doesn't seem to have pre-existing conditions, millennial, gen-z generation, we're looking at i'd rather get covid because we're looking at
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that we'll be able to recover. >> we don't know the long-term effects yet. i think the young people that are healthy, you know, we really just want to see what happens first. >> reporter: what i heard most was a lot of the gen-z and millennials don't think they'll end up in places like this. jefferson health. they think they're simply at a very low risk which, indeed, they are. but there's also a doctor here named austin chang going on social media. 400,000 followers on tiktok. he's been dancing, he's been making jokes. he's also going after folks who have crazy fallacies out there, they're not really giving you a shot that's a vaccine, they're putting a tracking device in you. i talked to him earlier today about what he's doing and why he's doing it. take a listen. >> we need to be more transparent about what's unknown. we share a lot of the same questions that gen-z has. i think they value transappearance as much as we
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want to provide that transparency, so we have the same questions. and we have the science, we're basing all of our decisions on science, and that's what's most important. >> reporter: he's one of the number of doctors, health professionals who have been out in front about this for a couple of months now and getting a good response but the biden administration is also working with some organizations like nextgen america, they were successful in getting young folks to vote in the last election. next week, they're going to roll out a program sending 1 million text messages to young folks, asking them to get the vaccine. making the argument for them. so all of this is under way, but to be honest, a lot of folks didn't think we'd be here now. and it may be a little behind on the messaging, i suppose you can argue it's a good problem to have that you're at a folks when you're talking to folks that are teenagers and 20 somethings
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about the vaccine. >> another point, dr. aja, was the pfizer vaccine, the potential getting approved by the fda next week for children between the ages of 12 and 15. that has got to be a game changer by some calculation. how much of one do you think it is for everything that the president talked about this summer with teenage travel, schools in the fall, what have you? >> yeah, i think it's big. it's really important. there are about 16 million people in that age range, adolescents. so if half of them get vaccinated or two-thirds of them, that's going to add to the population. and immunity that they have is going to protect them and also big benefits things like summer camp and other summer activities become a whole lot safer. and when schools open up this fall, high schools and middle schools, all of the teachers and staff will be vvaccinated. most of the kids will be vaccinated. so in-person school will be exceedingly safe this fall and
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winter. i have two kids personally, i want them vaccinated just because it's a safer, these are good vaccines. lots of enthusiasm. >> win-win all around. dr. aja, shannon pettypiece, chris jansing, thank you for joining us. in india, restrictions on travel to and from the country began after cases surpassed 20 million. taking thousands of lives each single day and basically collapsing india's health system. in the last couple hours, cdc director rochelle walensky said while they're hopeful researchers can stem the virus in india, there's one to learn. >> the one that people have been talking about is the 617 variant. that's the variant they're seeing in india. so, we are working now to understand that variant in the context of both the vaccine they have there, as well as astrazeneca, as well as the
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vaccines that we have here. we don't yet have data on that. we have some -- india has put out a statement that they believe the vaccines are working and we're trying to verify. >> let's get the very latest from the ground there, sky news correspondent alex crawford reporting on the crisis from new delhi where she fold a local hospital's medical team. alex. >> reporter: hi, ayman, yes, more grim statistics coming outside of india, with the world health organization saying between brazil and india, last week alone, they accounted for more than half of the global coronavirus cases. for the last nearly fort night now, india has been setting global record highs in number of infections. hospitals like this one behind me are absolutely overwhelmed by the numbers. we spent some time in their intensive care unit and their emergency room. they are full of people. they don't want to turn people away. they're finding it very hard to deal with.
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and people collapsing because of the shortage of oxygen. and doctors sending hour-by-hour battle to try to get oxygen supplies into the hospital. the key doctor here told us the rest of the world, the international community needs to treat this like the major disaster it is and send in doctors, nurses, medicines, ventilators, as soon as possible because at the moment they're just not coping. back to you, ayman. >> that was sky news' alex crawford reporting from yand. he's one of the most recognizable january 6th insurgents seen here carrying the confederate flag at the capitol. today, he's trying to work out a plea deal with prosecutors. speaking of january 6th, this time tomorrow, former president donald trump could be back on facebook after the platform suspended him. when asked today if a trump return to social media would
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>> so, today the man who carried a confederate flag into the u.s. capitol during the january 6th insurrection was in federal court. this man shown here was indicted on five counts, entering restricted property and disorderly conduct. joining me reporter for nbc washington, d.c. scott macfarlane. what's the latest in the case as well as other rioters today? >> kevin siegfried is not the most high profile but iconic because of seeing him carry the flag january ofth. his son hunter is charged too,
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accused of breaking a window by head and letting other insurrectionists in. they both pleaded not guilty. the attorneys were unequivocal, they started plea negotiations. ayman, we want to watch it closely, a notorious defendant, a high-profile defendant getting closer to a plea agreement. >> scott, what effect has former trump -- former president trump's rhetoric had on these cases so far? >> reporter: our latest reports as of late this afternoon, ayman, of the 400 defendants in the insurrection, about 60 are being held in jail pending their next hearing. the far right groups, the oathkeepers, the proud boys. let's watch the case of carl dreshch, he's being accused of being part of the insurrection,
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bragging about it, saying it was a grand day. in arguing his release from jail he said he is not a flight risk. but a federal judge said she's concerned of releasing a defendant as public officials continue to question the validity of the 2020 elections. she didn't mention president trump by name, but made clear that dreshch made some of his money by selling trump gear and clothing off his front porch in michigan. he has a criminal past. that's an important facet too. we'll see what the judge rules in the coming days, ayman. >> scott, thank you. in less than 24 hours, former president trump will find out whether he can return to facebook. tomorrow at 9:00 a.m. eastern, facebook's quasiindependent oversight board will announce whether they are reverse their suspension of trump which the site implemented after the january 6en 6th insurrection.
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joining me is roh kohan. what kind of precedent do you think it would set if trump were allowed back on facebook? and do you think companies like to wit worry also consider reversing their band? >> i think it would be a mistake to let him on this early. there's still insurrection activity. if they want to reconsider it down the line and don't want the precedent of a lifetime ban, that's one thing. but a few months after the january 6th insurrection seems too soon to me i think that would allow him back on in a way that would be dangerous. >> is there a way, congressman, for former president trump to be back on facebook but at the same time mitigating the threat that they think he poses?
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do they block certain posts, for example that don't meet their standards like they would for ordinary usersy. >> well, they've tried that. they've tried to warn him. they've tried to regulate him and what happened on january 6th crossed the line. i'm not saying there should necessarily be a lifetime ban. i do take these very seriously. and you don't want to see millions of people being deplatformed. it's only been a few months, january 6th, at the very least, there should be a ban on until the situation quiets down. today and yesterday, the president is still talking about the big lie. so there's been no change in his posture. >> let me switch gears for a moment president biden reversing him saying he would allow 62,000 refugees to enter in the united states in the next month. why do you think the
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administration has struggled with this issue, changing course, saying we're going to cap it to 15,000, according to the previous administration, but now going back up to the initial 62,500 they pledged? >> well, it's the right decision. these are people legitimately coming here to flee violence. there was no provision in terms of taking care or processing refugees. it was a complete mess. they've now started to get the system under chrome. as you know, children that have been detained now have dropped dramatically. they have a better handle on the situation so i think the president felt comfortable keeping the commitment that he had made. >> i know you're not obviously a remember of the republican party what do you make of this infighting taking place at the republican caucus on the hill. and the rumors and reports that perhaps liz cheney may be voted out of her leadership position and the challenges? all of this over fighting
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basically whether or not to support the former president's positions and policies and lies about the election. and those that have spoken out against it. >> it's really unfortunate. i mean, look, i days agree with representative cheney on some of the issues of foreign policy, but this idea that she would be ousted from leadership simply because she was willing to say that joe biden was the legitimately elected president of the united states. this shows the identity crisis that the republican party has. i mean, they still are split over whether joe biden is the legitimate president. and until they can resolve that question and recognize the president, there's little hope for progress. people keep saying about bipartisanship. how is the president supposed to be bipartisan when half of the republicans in the house don't recognize him as the legitimate president? >> congressman, let me ask you about the situation in india. the coronavirus pandemic there. you're vice chair of the india caucus and a major proponent of
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loosening patent restrictions on vaccines. what other measures could help confront the coronavirus right now? what do you want to see more from this administration? >> well, it's a horrific situation. hundreds of thousands affected. thousands dying. not enough oxygen. not enough medical supplies. not enough hospital beds. i give the administration credit for getting oxygen there, that's key, getting them ppe but the biggest thing to pay for and license the vaccine recipe so they can make their own vaccines. and 100 countries around the world need it. it's in our interest to prevent the spread of covid. >> congressman ro khanna, appreciate it, sir. >> thank you. up next, we're going to hear from the pfizer ceo on the challenges of getting the covid-19 vaccine out to all correspondence of the world. and how his company is trying to do just that. you're watching msnbc. ching msn. you're on it. staying fit and snacking light?
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relief for tenants protected since the pandemic began. children account for 22% of new cases according to the american association of pediatrics. that's a major increase from a year ago when kids made up only 3% of total covid cases. and pfizer said its estimates for demand for this is covid-19 vaccine will last years and reports $4.5 million in first quarter sales. the fda is expected to authorize the pfizer vaccine for children ages 12 and up as pfizer announced plans to apply for full fda approval at the end of the month, a step above the current emergency authorization. moments ago, president biden said that pharmacies are ready to vaccinate adolescents as soon as they get the okay. this afternoon, cnbc senior health and science reporter meg tirrell spoke with pfizer ceo albert bourl la, and he explained what full authorization would mean. watch. >> under the emergency
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authorization, you can commercize the vaccine on their -- only under specific guidance from the government. so you just can't give to employers or cvs privately, or to other -- to work with other vaccinations centers or physicians can use it in their practices. if you get authorization, those tunnels are going to open. >> cnbc's meg tirrell joins us now. meg, good to have you with us. what else did pfizer's ceo tell you about the company's future? >> well, you know, mentioned what they could do with full approval of the vaccine. they plan toal ply at the end of the this month. no time line on how long it takes for the fda to weigh in, normally it's six to eight months. he did, note, right now, even though they would get more freedom of approval over who they could sell to, governments
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are still expected to be the main cuts over the years. we've been talking about what has been in the news what you were just talking to ro khanna about, waiving i.p. it wouldn't work for enabling the countries to make the vaccines. he said the bottleneck is raw material supplies. in fact, the company said they can make 2.5 billion doses this year. and they actually haven't even taken orders for all of those 2.5 billion doses yet. i asked him that in the interview and whether or not they can make up that difference in terms of supplying the world. here's what he said. you've got manufacturing capacity up to $2.5 billion in 2021. you've struck agreements for 1.6 billion doses. help us think about how to think about that capacity that's not
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accounted for right now. 900 million doses. if countries don't strike deals for those doses what do you think the right thing is to supply the world? should rich countries buy them and donate them. is there an agreement with covax, the world health association. >> it's at least 2.5 billion this year and into next year. it is not an obstacle, because we're giving these doses at fair pricing. rich countries, u.s., europe, japan, canada, australia. they're making one tier. the medium income countries page half this price. and the lower income countries they're offered this at cost. right now, we need to make sure we have enough for all. and this is why we keep investing. >> but, of course, ayman, as
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we're talking about here, imminently expecting emergency use authorization for kids down to age 12 with the pfizer vaccine. other countries still don't have access for health care workers or older people who are at extremely high rick. so this debate will continue how to supply the world. >> absolutely fascinating conversation there. cnbc's meg tirrell thank you for bringing that. it's getting ugly in the gop. house leader failing to stand behind the certified 2020 election results. you're watching msnbc. so, mr. t can wash his hanes tees in cold. that's true mr. t. i pity the fool who don't turn to cold. ahh. ♪ (ac/dc: back in black) ♪ ♪ ♪ the bowls are back. applebee's irresist-a-bowls all just $8.99.
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someone just has to bring a motion but i assume that will probably take place. nbc news has not heard the audio or confirmed the axios report. here's what mccarthy did say on camera. >> there's no concern about how she voted on impeachment. that decision has been made. i have concern about members concerned about her carrying out the message. we all need to work as one if we're able to win the majority. ask. >> nbc news just learned that' lease stefanic has been making calls in a play to replace cheney as chair. joining us is garrett haake. >> reporter: what we've seen from cheney is mostly a statement from a spokesperson saying essentially this is all about whether the republican party is going to continue to perpetuate lies about the 2020
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election and attempt to whitewash what happened on january 6th. liz will not do this, says the spokesperson. cheney also got cover from mitt romney, the senator tweeting a while ago in support of cheney. the bottom line is she's certainly outnumbered and outgunned in conservative media, on twitter. we're seeing more and more calls for her removal. and lance good wynn saying that vote could happen next week. >> let's talk about the senate side of this for a moment. you have republican senator josh hawley this morning, the first senator to publicly announce his objections to the electoral college. he was asked about the election by "the washington post." watch. >> you said that biden was duly elected. do you believe that biden is the legitimately elected president of the united states? >> yeah, i do. >> garrett, explain that to us why is it that someone like
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hawley can break with trump and say that biden's election is legitimate, the election was not stolen. he does not get any flak from his republican colleagues for saying this, despite what we're seeing happen with liz cheney? >> well, that interview was this morning so let's hold off before saying he doesn't get any flak. i think there's a break with the republican party on hour far they want to go on whether or not joe biden is the president of the united states, that's firmly rooted in rejected reality. i think what we're seeing from cheney comes from her position in leadership. she's effectively the chief messaging officer of the house republican officer. and she is not giving the message that the republican conference wants. and it's not even that so much that everyone else in the conference thinks that joe biden is the president or that her comments are wrong, it's that they would like her to stop making them at every opportunity. i spoke to one chief of staff to
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a house republican earlier today said we don't want to talk about this anymore, essentially. even those who might agree with her don't want to relitigate this issue. that's what has pu perilous position. >> hi time line when this may play out? >> well, they're out this week. the conference is expected next wednesday. their weekly meeting. that's probably the soonest it could happen. >> garrett haake on capitol hill tracking the developments for us. thank you. another story we're tracking on capitol hill, the sex trafficking situation with matt gaetz. joel greenberg could strike a plea deal in the investigation surrounding both men. greenberg has until next friday to newport with police. it comes as did the daily beast reports, quote, a confession letter written by joel greenberg
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in the final months of the trump presidency claims that he and close associate matt gaetz paid for sex with multiple women including as well as a girl who was 17 at the time. nbc news has neither seen or obtained the letter to verify the reports. joining us now is kristin gib gibens. and a prosecutor in the successful conviction of bill cosby. how worried should gaetz be if in fact greenberg cooperates with prosecutors? >> he should be very worried because if he cooperates with prosecutors, if he gives statements consistent with the latter it will establish two for the prosecutors with the sex crimes against gaetz. first that he gave money in
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exchange for sex and second that sexual contact was with a minor. this wouldn't necessarily get the prosecutors over the finish line, right? because they would still need to establish that this crime relates to interstate commerce which is a necessary precondition for federal involvement. if gaetz crossed state lines and greenberg is able to get testimony to that. it could be a violation of 2323, transportation of a minor for sex funds. the prosecutors would not need to prove that gaetz knew that the young lady was a minor at the time of the sex act. which the letter and i presume greenberg's statements would be consistent with the letter, specifically denied. and i think that's really important. because if they do prosecute gaetz under the 1591 of the child sex trafficking criminal statute which is what greenberg is facing, the prosecutor will need to prove that gaetz had
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some level of knowledge at the time of the sex act that that young lady was a minor. and that's something that the prosecutors, i think, may have some concerns with, if greenberg cannot provide that testimony for them. >> yeah. let me dig in on that for a moment. the issue of the age here and whether it absolves gaetz. in the latter reported in the daily beast, greenberg said he and gaetz had sex with the minor they believed to be 19 at the time. you're saying that's not necessarily important for them know what her age is if they are commits the alleged crime of trafficking her across state borders and essentially interstate commerce. so believing the girl was an adult absolve them of any crime? >> so, believing her to be an adult does not necessarily absolve them of any crime. the prosecutors do not need to prove it under the transportation of a minor. it is a viable offense that the
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defense can assert. it would be their burden to prove under that particular statute that gaetz reasonably believed her to be over the age of 18. and they could do that from various sources. they could point to the letter. they could point to greenberg's testimony. they could point to a variety of sources. and according to the letter once they found her age, they did stop. it was an uphill battle, even if prosecutors are able to show they crossed state lines because it's a viable offense but it's not necessary for conviction. >> let me read from gaetz pr firm, congressman gaetz has never paid for sex, nor has he had sex with a 17-year-old as an adult. politico has reported that mr. greenberg's accusations against others and while the daily beast's story contains a lot of confessions from mr. greenberg, it does not add any substance certainly not the claims of gaetz. in fact, the story goes some way
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to showing how representative gaetz was long out of touch with mr. greenberg and had no interest in involving himself in mr. greenberg's affairs. how hard is it to establish for a sex trafficking charge? >> keep in mind, ayman, we don't know the extent of his cooperation with the federal prosecutors. his attorney has specifically said, you're matt gaetz, you have a lot to worry about. taking that into account as well as the latter. i think the prosecutors are still going to have an issue proving the age if they need to go under the same federal statute that greenberg is indicted under. but if they can prove crossing the state lines but keep in mind, they had the venmo payments and there could be some indication on those venmo payments what was paid for.
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i think the prosecutors may have a battle but i think they may be able to prove their burden. >> thank you very much, kristen gibbons fedden, thank you your insight. in strong support from russia, secretary of state antony blinken will travel to russia. he's there to prove that and the significance of blinken's trip. you're watching msnbc. s trip you're watching msnbc. we can create new ways to connect. rethinking how we communicate to be more inclusive than ever. with app, cloud and anywhere workspace solutions, vmware helps companies navigate change. faster. vmware. welcome change.
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meeting since the pandemic began. meanwhile, moments ago president biden was asked if he's planning to immediate with vladimir putin next month? >> that's my hope and expectation. we're working on it. thank you. joining me now from ukraine, andrea mitchell. good to see you. how did the first day of the meeting go? >> they focused intensively on russia. the threat of russia and ukraine and belarus for that matter, they certainly want to prop up his government, but they're sells concerned zelenskiy may be slipping babb there's constant
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attacks on the sovereignty from non-military perspective. that's one of the arguments we believe secretary blinken will be making when he comes here. can you lose your sovereignty to russian tanks, but also if you lose lose control of your assets with anti-democratic measures. zelenskiy has to performed he can meet the measures to get loans and hopefully eventually into nato. >> what are they hoping to hear the secretary say? >> reporter: well, it's very important. of course, it's a big contrast to the trump administration. this is the first real in-person g7 meeting before the pandemic. they've been meeting by phone, but not in person, so that was
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very important. these days of intensive discussions, not just on russia and ukraine, but also on the increasing aggression from china, in the south china seas versus against tie what, hong con, the we'llers, as you know, the u.s. has called it a genocide. also climate and the pandemic. ukraine has done a really bad job according to reform people regarding the vaccinations. people are way behind on vaccinations. they're not even expecting widespread vaccination of ukraine under 2022. so there's a lot of concern about the government here. that also plays into vladimir putin's hands. he's pulled back, we believe -- the u.s. believes, from the border where he had war troops at any time since 2014, but he's left equipment there, there are tanks there. there are other armored vehicles
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that threat is very well. andrea staying up late for us. thank you. we'll be in touch through the day tomorrow as the meeting gets underway. with the troop withdrawal from afghanistan underway, many afghan forces who worked with the u.s. are concerned about what happens once they are gone. richard e engle from kabul has more. >> reporter: there is great uncertainty in the city. people don't know what is going to happen. will there be civil war? could the taliban even return to power? >> reporter: tess praise beauty par who are in kabul, all they're talking about is the taliban, and will they take over as u.s. troops leave, and make this simple act a crime? under the taliban, wearing makeup or doing your hair was a
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sinful vice, punishable by public flogs. the owner and all the customers here say they would rather leave afghanistan, and everything they have than live under the taliban. women have made huge strides until 20 years of protection former president george w. bush had more. >> he said he was going to pull troops out of afghanistan. >> yeah. >> did you think that was the right decision? >> i'm extremely concerned about the plight of women and girls in that country. >> reporter: it's not just afghan women at risk. these men hiding their faces, all worked as interpreters for the u.s. military. they went on combat missions with u.s. troops that killed taliban fighters or put them in jail. what about here in kabul, do you think you're at risk? >> definitely.
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nowhere can we feel safe. >> reporter: he served for three years trance lating radio intercepts. >> i was -- the sniper shut on us. >> reporter: he was wounded and received a medal from american forces. now he's a marked man by the taliban. the u.s. does have a program to give asylum to translators, but critics say it's opaque and time-consuming. thousands have joined a petition saying they were arbitrarily dismissed or denied asylum because of paperwork. ayman? >> richard, thank you for that reporting. that wraps up this hour for me. i'll see you back here tomorrow. "deadline: white house" with nicolle wallace starts after this quick break. nicolle wallace starts after this quick break and because it's a ninja foodi, it can do things no other oven can, like flip away. the ninja foodi air fry oven, the oven that crisps and flips away.
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taking his most aggress sieve steps today to percentage his leadership team from liz cheney, for her refusal to go along with the big lie. as the republican party's platform. pun siring her wasn't even the worst thing he did today. watch. >> there's no concern about how she vote odd impeachment. that decision has been made. i have heard from members concerned about her ability to carry out the job as conference chair, to carry out the mechanic. >> so either kevin mccarthy just slipped up and revealed house republicans plan to run on the insurrection and the big lie behind it, or kevin mccarthy is lying about the need to oust cheney, because there's no way cheney's clarity about the big lie
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